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Wakanda
11-16-2024, 02:54 AM
https://i.ibb.co/85zWQ8G/cyndreelz.png

i love a good troll as much as everyone, but at a certain point the inside joke needs to be more obvious

it's such an amazing camp, but why is it never camped? Why aren't youtubers fawning over how amazing this camp is?

Serious question.

eisley
11-16-2024, 03:17 AM
it's ok if you're like a melee without a fungi or mage without epic or something. these days everyone is a mega twink, that's what killed the spot. cyndreela was perma camped in the vanilla/kunark days.

loramin
11-16-2024, 01:20 PM
If only there were a way to edit that entry to change its level, add a note, etc.

If only ...

Naethyn
11-16-2024, 01:36 PM
I leveled my wiz on her in the 50s. I thought it was an awesome camp if you want to nuke 3 times and then afk until respawn. Just get her before she buffs and summons a pet and its actually really awesome.

Ekco
11-16-2024, 02:24 PM
don't get the joke, her and that other chick in Rathe Mts have been afk Caster camps since forever.

PatChapp
11-16-2024, 05:10 PM
Mage can park a pet on her spawn and definitely tab over every 6 mins for the kill. Great spot for double lazy.

Reiwa
11-17-2024, 12:55 AM
Happ Dremblenod when you couldn't tab out and phones didn't exist. 🤤

Reiwa
11-17-2024, 12:57 AM
There's a really gross spam thread on top of this so please pardon the immediate bump.

Sadre Spinegnawer
11-17-2024, 01:50 PM
https://i.ibb.co/85zWQ8G/cyndreelz.png

i love a good troll as much as everyone, but at a certain point the inside joke needs to be more obvious

it's such an amazing camp, but why is it never camped? Why aren't youtubers fawning over how amazing this camp is?

Serious question.

Cyndreela is an Erudite. And if you are referring to the missing lore rumors, they are just that -- rumors.

Swish
11-18-2024, 12:19 AM
Wakanda's New and Improved Per Level Hunting Guide when?

Wakanda
11-22-2024, 09:27 AM
don't get the joke, her and that other chick in Rathe Mts have been afk Caster camps since forever.

It may be because I don’t play twinks (it’s not fun for me), but I’ve consistently had terrible luck trying to exp with her as a shaman, necro, and enchanter. I actually found a YouTube video that was several years old and the dude was talking about how tough she is even as a level 52 necromancer and how the exp basically stops at 53 😹

After almost two years of not trying her, I finally decided to do it again on a new character, got 15% exp from her, and then had two random cyndreela spawns that resisted everything and beat me to death back to back and was now at less exp than where I had been the night prior after grouping with people for hours

And I was drunk lmao

So I raged out and made this thread

I feel like wiki should warn that this camp is kind of meme’ish (especially for the suggested level bracket) or maybe I should make a YouTube video recording why the camp sucks after a random god tier Cyndreela spawns into the game albeit idk if my heart can take it

loramin
11-22-2024, 11:49 AM
I feel like wiki should warn that this camp is kind of meme’ish (especially for the suggested level bracket) or maybe I should make a YouTube video recording why the camp sucks after a random god tier Cyndreela spawns into the game albeit idk if my heart can take it

If only there were a way to edit that entry to change its level, add a note, etc.

If only ...

Wakanda
11-23-2024, 01:06 AM
Also another reason Cyndreela is no joke if you're a squishy, if you get the random Cyndreela that is super resistant, she will likely get Venom of the Snake and Scourge on you, and cancel magic doesn't work on these (at least it doesn't for me, I assume they are poison and disease), so you almost automatically die. Like I was dying 30-40 seconds after she died because the DoT got me as I sat there panicking.

Also IDK the science behind this, but my Rune don't absorb her DoT damage, I guess it only works for physical damage? Because I tried. I mean I'm sure some ultra twinks prob run through her with ease, and I had a few streaks where I was killing her like clock work, but then bam, a resist, and dang, I'm not DoT'd fatally, lol. Like I imagine some other players out there may have some beastly HP items, and resists, but for a normal dude, it can be pretty rough.

aaezil
11-23-2024, 09:36 AM
Sorry you’re bad and died my condolences

PatChapp
11-24-2024, 01:56 PM
Also another reason Cyndreela is no joke if you're a squishy, if you get the random Cyndreela that is super resistant, she will likely get Venom of the Snake and Scourge on you, and cancel magic doesn't work on these (at least it doesn't for me, I assume they are poison and disease), so you almost automatically die. Like I was dying 30-40 seconds after she died because the DoT got me as I sat there panicking.

Also IDK the science behind this, but my Rune don't absorb her DoT damage, I guess it only works for physical damage? Because I tried. I mean I'm sure some ultra twinks prob run through her with ease, and I had a few streaks where I was killing her like clock work, but then bam, a resist, and dang, I'm not DoT'd fatally, lol. Like I imagine some other players out there may have some beastly HP items, and resists, but for a normal dude, it can be pretty rough.

Runes do not absorb dot damage from any source

Ekco
11-24-2024, 05:13 PM
It may be because I don’t play twinks (it’s not fun for me),

yeah, she isn't classic apparently

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24580

post about her dying in 2 Ice comets before even getting a pet summoned in the Cyndreela i know and camped lol.

can make another post and complain about her, Nilbog already nerfed her once might again.

Dolalin
11-25-2024, 07:59 AM
So many camps in classic EQ were just nuking a static spawn and waiting 18 minutes or whatever.

This guy died to a lot of druids in 1999.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Vhalen_Nostrolo

cd288
11-25-2024, 01:03 PM
It may be because I don’t play twinks (it’s not fun for me), but I’ve consistently had terrible luck trying to exp with her as a shaman, necro, and enchanter. I actually found a YouTube video that was several years old and the dude was talking about how tough she is even as a level 52 necromancer and how the exp basically stops at 53 😹

After almost two years of not trying her, I finally decided to do it again on a new character, got 15% exp from her, and then had two random cyndreela spawns that resisted everything and beat me to death back to back and was now at less exp than where I had been the night prior after grouping with people for hours

And I was drunk lmao

So I raged out and made this thread

I feel like wiki should warn that this camp is kind of meme’ish (especially for the suggested level bracket) or maybe I should make a YouTube video recording why the camp sucks after a random god tier Cyndreela spawns into the game albeit idk if my heart can take it

For what it's worth, I always take caster camps with a grain of salt. As you noted, if you get a really bad run of RNG during a kill, things can go south pretty quickly if you're also a caster (especially one with no way to quickly regen the health a DoT might be taking out of you).

I know Nilbog nerfed her resists down years ago, so I think your experience might just be the shitty streaky RNG that you sometimes get hit with in EQ. But yeah good rule of thumb to consider when looking at any caster camp if you're squishy is that the entry isn't necessarily written from a perspective of "if you're squishy and things go bad RNG-wise you'll still be fine".

Ciderpress
11-25-2024, 03:44 PM
Is there any validity to the idea EQ has particularly "streaky" RNG compared to any other form of RNG?

Genuine question. I tend to think it's just people getting mad over bad luck, but then I was doing the druid epic a couple months ago on green and I was on the foraging part and I foraged like fifty "roots" in a row.

cd288
11-25-2024, 04:58 PM
I don't think there's any validity too it at the end of the day. Although I too at times have wondered if there's validity to the conspiracy theory that the game is coded to ensure things definitely happen a certain percentage of the time, so if you've been having it too easy you'll get a run of bad RNG.

But then I remind myself the amount of data mining that has been done on EverQuest at this point and surely someone would've turned up lines of code as evidence for that?

At the end of the day I think it's just that we play this game so much. And if you do anything enough over a period of time it's just statistically likely that you'll run into streaky periods of RNG...and we remember those more because they stand out, unlike the thousands of hours of normal RNG that we've gone through.

Jimjam
11-25-2024, 05:08 PM
I spent months farming an embalmers skinning knife and had a second drop pretty much straight after. Both aspects of that were crazy RNG, but I do believe it was just the flip of the coin.

Wakanda
11-26-2024, 01:25 AM
Is there any validity to the idea EQ has particularly "streaky" RNG compared to any other form of RNG?

Genuine question. I tend to think it's just people getting mad over bad luck, but then I was doing the druid epic a couple months ago on green and I was on the foraging part and I foraged like fifty "roots" in a row.

I've seen this with Treants in SK. Probably shouldn't admit to doing those since it's not true classic, but I have. have done them for hours/days and never came close to death. Effortless content. And then randomly a Treant spawned that was so gangster that I legit couldn't even kill it and had to log on my main to deal with it.

Or like the loot in LGUK and Mistmoore. Got multiple TBB, FBSS, HBC in a matter of an hour and a half, then had other instances where I spent days camping them and never saw anything. Not a complaint either, I think the extreme rare nature of loot is what made EQ cooler than games like WOW where everything is cookie cutter and handed out for free.

jolanar
12-21-2024, 10:13 PM
I farmed Cyndreela for 2 levels on my rogue. I want to say it was 51/52. The only hard part was getting the first kill when she was buffed with a pet up. After that it was ezmode.

Jimjam
12-22-2024, 04:39 AM
I farmed Cyndreela for 2 levels on my rogue. I want to say it was 51/52. The only hard part was getting the first kill when she was buffed with a pet up. After that it was ezmode.

Have a few pumice for breaking the camp. Engage with first click, second click is usually easy to get off as she likes to take a mo to cast a spell on the way in. Often that strips enough buffs to make fight easier.

Wakanda
12-23-2024, 05:05 PM
I farmed Cyndreela for 2 levels on my rogue. I want to say it was 51/52. The only hard part was getting the first kill when she was buffed with a pet up. After that it was ezmode.

That's not the hard part in my experience, and I've tried it on several different classes. I could genuinely believe a twinked melee with a fungus tunic, ton of HP, etc. would prob do well against her. A Rogue could backstab her while she is casting, maybe even occasionally get some fears off.

What gets me is, I will have a streak where I farm her like clockwork for 2 hours, and then a random Cyndreela spawns that resists almost everything I throw at her, even if I tash her first, by the time I kill her (and I usually do), I have two DoTs on me that I cannot survive and have no way of removing. I imagine Necromancer and Shamans could do a better job on her between being able to lifetap skeletons and remove these ailments, but Wizards, Enchanters, Magicians etc. are going to run into a lot of problems.

What I discovered is that even if I kill her for two hours straight, that single death sets me back to having less experience than I had before. And honestly the randomly ultra resistant Cyndreelas prob happen more often than every 2 hours. I remember when I finally hung my hat up it was because I realized I now had lost so much experience on her that I actually had more experience a week ago when I was doing ramps in City of Mist and decided it isn't worth it.

Eisai
12-23-2024, 08:11 PM
Why not charm a spec or cover so it eats all the dots?

NachtMystium
12-23-2024, 10:56 PM
https://i.ibb.co/85zWQ8G/cyndreelz.png

i love a good troll as much as everyone, but at a certain point the inside joke needs to be more obvious

it's such an amazing camp, but why is it never camped? Why aren't youtubers fawning over how amazing this camp is?

Serious question.

i did not even click the picture my dawg i am seriously posting in pure hatred i just watched Blade(1998) and im done fuckin with you hoes. im so tired of yall *****z i swear to god yall dumb as fuck cant ever let a ***** just fuckkin vibe and be a half breed yall gotta try and summon la migra the blood god i fuckin hate you dumbass bitch

Wakanda
12-25-2024, 12:00 AM
Why not charm a spec or cover so it eats all the dots?

thats actually a good idea. i had been using animation pet because it can solo the spectres, but actually having pet that can attack / get aggro before i engage is a good idea. i might try this if i can log in :p havent been able to since the recent patch

NachtMystium
12-25-2024, 04:00 PM
feel really bad bout my last post i'm sorry dawg i'm going through it

Wakanda
12-25-2024, 10:00 PM
its not that serious lol, its just the internet

also i do remember now why i didnt try specter last time, there was a shaman and sk duo'ing them. i had been trading clarity / haste for regen / sow. i do want to try it tho when i get a chance.

Eisai
12-26-2024, 01:18 AM
You might try a bouncer if no spec

cd288
01-06-2025, 01:50 PM
That's not the hard part in my experience, and I've tried it on several different classes. I could genuinely believe a twinked melee with a fungus tunic, ton of HP, etc. would prob do well against her. A Rogue could backstab her while she is casting, maybe even occasionally get some fears off.

What gets me is, I will have a streak where I farm her like clockwork for 2 hours, and then a random Cyndreela spawns that resists almost everything I throw at her, even if I tash her first, by the time I kill her (and I usually do), I have two DoTs on me that I cannot survive and have no way of removing. I imagine Necromancer and Shamans could do a better job on her between being able to lifetap skeletons and remove these ailments, but Wizards, Enchanters, Magicians etc. are going to run into a lot of problems.

What I discovered is that even if I kill her for two hours straight, that single death sets me back to having less experience than I had before. And honestly the randomly ultra resistant Cyndreelas prob happen more often than every 2 hours. I remember when I finally hung my hat up it was because I realized I now had lost so much experience on her that I actually had more experience a week ago when I was doing ramps in City of Mist and decided it isn't worth it.

Ench should have an easy time. You can either stun or cast a quick low level mez on her to disrupt casting.

Mage has their pet, although have to be careful not to pull aggro.

Wakanda
01-12-2025, 01:03 AM
Ench should have an easy time. You can either stun or cast a quick low level mez on her to disrupt casting.

Mage has their pet, although have to be careful not to pull aggro.

i would have 2-3 hour streaks where i would kill her on cooldown, but then random ones where she resists literally everything, even though i usually still kill her, by this point i have DoT's on me that are fatal (Im not twinked)

I havent played on P99 since around the time I made this thread, but I do plan on trying to use a charmed pet next time that way.... I dont have to worry as much about aggro

i was using animation just because my animations can solo specters, so it was nice to have the luxury of going afk and not worrying about my pet or low level dry bones runnning up and beating me and having to waste mana to deal with them

but for science whenever i get back on p99 i will experiment with charm and this camp more (specters is camped a lot of times, but may try a bouncer)

Wakanda
01-12-2025, 01:04 AM
i would have 2-3 hour streaks where i would kill her on cooldown, but then random ones where she resists literally everything, even though i usually still kill her, by this point i have DoT's on me that are fatal (Im not twinked)


i forgot to emphasize here, like, at 50+ the exp is so slow that that one death kind of sets you back to the exp you were when you started, and in a few instances when i got back to the camp, the super spawn cyndreela was up still and killed me again, like actually had to log on my necro to kill her

Knuckle
01-12-2025, 03:35 AM
https://i.ibb.co/85zWQ8G/cyndreelz.png

i love a good troll as much as everyone, but at a certain point the inside joke needs to be more obvious

it's such an amazing camp, but why is it never camped? Why aren't youtubers fawning over how amazing this camp is?

Serious question.

I basically leveled my druid doing these types of 'camps'. Why? Because emptying my mana bar with nukes as evoke spec was unironically the most efficient way for me to level because I work remote. I did not have time to do anything lengthier than a quad kite or a kill and afk camp. I basically did this 1-60 with very few exceptions.

cd288
01-13-2025, 03:04 PM
i would have 2-3 hour streaks where i would kill her on cooldown, but then random ones where she resists literally everything, even though i usually still kill her, by this point i have DoT's on me that are fatal (Im not twinked)

I havent played on P99 since around the time I made this thread, but I do plan on trying to use a charmed pet next time that way.... I dont have to worry as much about aggro

i was using animation just because my animations can solo specters, so it was nice to have the luxury of going afk and not worrying about my pet or low level dry bones runnning up and beating me and having to waste mana to deal with them

but for science whenever i get back on p99 i will experiment with charm and this camp more (specters is camped a lot of times, but may try a bouncer)

I would also wonder if you even need a pet as the Ench. Mez, tash, root (do you need root or will she always just stand back and nuke)...then nuke her, use a GCD cooldown to quickly cast your low level mez on her, nuke again, repeat. Depending on your mana pool I would think you could just totally nuke her down with using mez to interrupt her casts.

Wakanda
01-14-2025, 09:11 AM
I basically leveled my druid doing these types of 'camps'. Why? Because emptying my mana bar with nukes as evoke spec was unironically the most efficient way for me to level because I work remote. I did not have time to do anything lengthier than a quad kite or a kill and afk camp. I basically did this 1-60 with very few exceptions.

I also leveled a lot of characters completely solo vaguely using that guide and other sources. I just think that camp in particular ls misleading, and I don't think the average level 45-50 anything is going to roll up and kill her with ease, lol. (Read "average," not mega twinks). Like there's a reason you never see it camped IMHO.

I actually watched a level 52 Necromancer on youtube really struggling kill her as well and he has a lot more tools for survival and offense than a Shaman or Enc of similar level. I imagine Magicians and Wizards run into similar problems where they get the random highly resistant Cyndreela, get dot'd up and simply die since the dots can't be dispelled and ignore runes.

Wakanda
01-14-2025, 09:16 AM
I would also wonder if you even need a pet as the Ench. Mez, tash, root (do you need root or will she always just stand back and nuke)...then nuke her, use a GCD cooldown to quickly cast your low level mez on her, nuke again, repeat. Depending on your mana pool I would think you could just totally nuke her down with using mez to interrupt her casts.

It's been a few weeks since I did it. For the most part I was using root, and mez and stun, and trying to spam nukes. But when I run into the elite Cyndreela's Tash gets resisted and pretty much everything gets resisted. I will usually kill her, but I'm so DoT'd up that I die anyways. I rarely ever get melee'd by Cyndreela.

Also even on some of the easier Cyndreela spawns, she kills my animated pet. Same pet makes quick work of spectres. Think the main thing with spectre might be that it ... maybe could hold aggro better? Probably not though because it's going to die really fast, which is going to become an issue when Cyndreela is resisting everything I throw at her. And these are pre-buff Cyndreelas too, like I try to attack her as soon as I see her pop, but you just get those random badass Cyndreelas.

Maybe the camp was more happening when there was a ton of Clerics AFK camping spectres who could toss out buffs or rez you if need be. It also may have been way better exp 45-50 than it is at 51+ but I also feel like she would wreck the heck out of a lot of level 45-50 players lol.

IDK. I wanted to like the camp though because it's unique and a peaceful area, decent loot etc. but on two separate characters now I literally lost exp at a rate that would de-level me if I wasn't careful. I'm sure the full skyshrine twinks are prob confused by what I'm saying right now.

cd288
01-15-2025, 12:42 PM
If you're looking for a chill camp that you can use up until the low 50s, cruise on over to Island 15 (IIRC on the number) on the map in Lake Rathe. Kanthurn and Taia Lyfol (SP?) are a Rogue and Pally respectively. Both factionless single pull 6:40 spawns. Don't drop any loot though.

Taia can be a bit annoying with healing herself but easy to interrupt if you have the ability to do so. Very chill completely safe camp and Lake Rathe is a nice, peaceful feeling zone.

The barb guards in Everfrost (not the gate guards - there are two single spawns on one of the canyons out into the tundra, and one single spawn up by where the dude and his pet are north of there (think it's Snowflake or whatever the dog is named?)). You can usually get through 54 or 55 on those guys and I think they drop an FS 2 hander each time. This can be more camped, especially on Green I believe, but very chill camp and every now and then someone running to the IGs might pass by and buff you.

BB dwarf guards (the level 45 ones not the few level 50s) are very safe camps too. You'll just need some form of CC to split the pairs. Druid ring beta neutral vendor right there to sell all the weapons and armor you'll loot. I remember I did this on an Ench until like level 55. Starting with the dock guards and doing a full circle through the various huts, ending at Druid ring to vendor and then running north to the dock guards again. There are a couple huts where there's a level 50 Dwarf inside who may aggro if you kill them next to the hut so make sure you pull them away. Very safe and chill.

Popet
01-16-2025, 12:02 AM
For the most part I was using root, and mez and stun, and trying to spam nukes. But when I run into the elite Cyndreela's Tash gets resisted and pretty much everything gets resisted. I will usually kill her, but I'm so DoT'd up that I die anyways.
Tash is unresistable, isn't it? If your magic based mezzes and stuns are getting resisted every time, how are you killing her with magic based nukes? Why are they not getting resisted every time? How many times do you cast mez before you give up and start nuking?

Don't bother with root. Don't bother with stun. Don't even bother with tash. Just cast mez until it lands.

Wakanda
01-17-2025, 03:46 AM
Tash is unresistable, isn't it? If your magic based mezzes and stuns are getting resisted every time, how are you killing her with magic based nukes? Why are they not getting resisted every time? How many times do you cast mez before you give up and start nuking?

Don't bother with root. Don't bother with stun. Don't even bother with tash. Just cast mez until it lands.

You're right about Tash (I wasn't sure). It's been weeks since I've logged into P99 (I haven't quit, I'm just really busy). I'm not saying Cyndreela is unkillable BTW. Like the last time I camped her, I killed her like clockwork for a few hours (I can't remember how long), and the exp was good, the loot was pretty decent too. But then suddenly the random badass Cyndreela spawned. And there's no warning that she's going to be tougher than normal -- she just is. Again, I almost always kill her, but then die to the DoTs she stacked on me while I was trying to do so.

It becomes less feasible for me to try and mez her because then I have to give up my pet, which means I now have to worry about the low level dry bones skeletons punching me every 2 seconds, and honestly, the pet is a huge safety buffer when fighting her anyways.

I think people are misinterpreting this as me saying Cyndreela is really hard to kill or that I can't figure it out. In actuality most of the time I still kill her easy, and then get solo'd by DoTs long after she is dead. Which you know, Shaman and Necro aren't going to have this issue since they can heal, cure disease/poison (IDK if Necro can cure both, but they do have DMF and lifetaps on low level dry bones if needed). I think most classes like Wizard, Enc, and Magician are always going to have a much harder time killing her because it pretty much only takes one resist for things to go south.

But yeah, I basically end up losing the exp I get from her because even if you only die once every 2 hours, at 51+, the exp is so slow that you basically have less exp than before you started. This isn't the first character I've had this issue on either. I actually did think about how I could stack more HP gear on my ENC to try and make it a little safer. Right now I'm using a lot of really cheap charisma gear since he's not a twink, so my HP are pretty low, but I'm not even using Charm for that camp, so I guess most of my gear is useless in that situation.

I'm not a total noob enchanter either. I actually do play the character for the challenge. I've spent a lot of time in Lower Guk just learning all the camps. It took me hours to kill Froglok King the first time. But I wanted to know how to do all of this stuff so when the next P99 server launches, I can be that Enchanter who I used to envy as a Cleric who couldn't find a group, but saw Enchanters just wandering around the zone collecting epic loot by themselves.

I've never tried Efreeti though. Just getting to Efreeti alive is terrifying. Much less trying to kill it without dying. But meanwhile I have friends on Green who were able to do it with relative ease, so I guess it's just a matter of learning the routes and strats.

Jimjam
01-17-2025, 07:09 AM
Get a mage focus item so you can reclaim mana for pet and recast it later?

Jimjam
01-17-2025, 07:09 AM
Get a mage focus item so you can reclaim mana for pet and recast it later?

Also, cap ur bandaging and get some kind of heal pots.

Jimjam
01-17-2025, 07:55 AM
Also, cap ur bandaging and get some kind of heal pots.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Strathbone_Anti-Venom

https://wiki.project1999.com/Pale_Green_Potion

https://wiki.project1999.com/Crystallized_Pumice

https://wiki.project1999.com/10_Dose_Greater_Potion_of_Negation

https://wiki.project1999.com/10_Dose_Potion_of_Stinging_Wort

Popet
01-18-2025, 02:03 AM
It becomes less feasible for me to try and mez her because then I have to give up my pet
You lose your pet when you cast mez? I don't understand. I'm pretty sure there's no reason why you should have to give up your pet to cast mez.

The suggestion you are getting from multiple people now is that you need more interrupts more often. More interrupts, less dots. Less dots, less deaths. You get that with low level mez. cd288 suggested the same thing a few posts up.

Based on what you are saying, it does not sound like Cyndreela should be considered unusually difficult for a lone higher level necromancer, even when she gets a lucky string of resists once every twenty spawns, which sounds like the only thing that is happening. I don't see why a Mage would have an especially hard time with her, since the pet would be taking the dots. Maybe a Wizard would have a harder time.

Enchanters just wandering around the zone collecting epic loot by themselves
It's all an illusion. Especially when Enchanters are involved.

It's been weeks since I've logged into P99 (I haven't quit, I'm just really busy).
The strange thing about this game is that the winning move is not to play. Sounds like someone is watching out for you, if you ask me.

Wakanda
01-20-2025, 12:27 AM
You lose your pet when you cast mez? I don't understand. I'm pretty sure there's no reason why you should have to give up your pet to cast mez.

The suggestion you are getting from multiple people now is that you need more interrupts more often. More interrupts, less dots. Less dots, less deaths. You get that with low level mez. cd288 suggested the same thing a few posts up.

Based on what you are saying, it does not sound like Cyndreela should be considered unusually difficult for a lone higher level necromancer, even when she gets a lucky string of resists once every twenty spawns, which sounds like the only thing that is happening. I don't see why a Mage would have an especially hard time with her, since the pet would be taking the dots. Maybe a Wizard would have a harder time.


It's all an illusion. Especially when Enchanters are involved.


The strange thing about this game is that the winning move is not to play. Sounds like someone is watching out for you, if you ask me.
In hind sight knowing how good Magician pets are and the fact that they have control over, Magician probably would wreck her. The way I usually kill her is Discordant Mind. Clicky. Anarchy. Clicky. Discordant Mind. Dead. I'm pretty sure both of those nukes are actually interrupts, but when they get resisted that obviously doesn't matter :p I'm not entirely sure that an emergency Color Skew or Whirl Til You Hurl will land any easier or with real impact at that point.

I think if I was really interested in doing this camp then investing in HP gear would make a huge difference (my characters aren't twinks). But there is other things I can do where I was getting better exp than this. The last time I died I actually swung over to Grobb and started killing guards and was having a better time. I think the main appeal of Cyndreela at first glance was that they seemed like an AFK friendly camp, which would have been a nice break since chain CC'ing for groups in KC was fatiguing me pretty badly.

But yeah I looked at the HP difference of Necro of similar level and it's pretty huge:

https://i.ibb.co/8N0RnbN/enc.png https://i.ibb.co/yVTJwTQ/nec.png

And yes my Enc is missing a range slot and I think some of his pieces are actually cloth armor :p but gear hasn't been a huge issue for me so far, like this would have been considered pretty decent gear when P99 Green first launched? That's kind of what I tell myself because I remember when Green first launched watching Enchanters in LGUK do some crazy stuff and I don't even think their gear was this good. But against Cyndreela I do think having HP stuff would make a bigger diff.

cd288
01-22-2025, 01:23 PM
The Ench nukes have a stun component yes, but that's not reliable as a strategy to prevent her casting as the have long cast times. So the strategy in my opinion should be: Mez, then tash, then root (if needed, not sure if she ever approaches to melee?), then nuke, then low lvl mez to prevent any casting, then nuke, then low level mez to prevent casting, etc.

With obviously using a GCD clicky in between each so you can immediately low lvl mez her before she casts. If she resists, I think you could have multiple other low level mezzes on your bar as well as your color stun as backups right? Not going to guarantee that it solves the streaky RNG situation, but it's worth a shot. If you're getting streaky RNG and you think it's gonna go bad, you can also try to root her and just run out of line of sight into the passageway and camp the aggro and try again.

Popet
01-24-2025, 05:41 PM
Apologies for not listening to you earlier, and consequently not understanding why you would have to get rid of your pet. Yes, it could easily break mez. Yes, that does mean you should probably not even summon it.

That necro you posted would still die to three dots (if they didn't cast lifetap). You could spend tens of thousands of pp and still get two bad resists and die to three dots because you wanted to nuke a mob that was dotting you instead of a mob that you mezzed. Very sporting of you, but you see the consequences.

According to my calculations, you probably die to a single resist most of the time. Consider rerolling wizard, or possibly not logging in for a while. EQ is brutal, no matter how you approach it. You are trying to kill people, and they are going to kill you for it. If you don't want to play that game, then don't play it. It's better not to, if you can avoid it. That's my real recommendation.