View Full Version : Lets say Blue and Green merge and we get Purple
Ghost_of_Fippy
07-20-2024, 10:17 AM
Question:
A lot of us have full slots of characters on the same account on both Blue and Green server. Would they allow us to create a new account to transfer Green characters too so we do not loose any characters we spent so much time developing?
Or are they going to force us to delete characters so you only end up with 8 during the merge?
Rimitto
07-20-2024, 11:08 AM
seen people say they're just going to make a "new page" of characters to handle them all.
I think they're just gonna make a new server and let green rot like blue.
Why? they did it once before.
History is a great indicator of future actions.
Solist
07-20-2024, 12:52 PM
Wipe them both.
Start one at current timeline - All patches are in. Exact timeline we're on now.
Start other as progression - Legacy items and all.
But make the /list system only ever work once for the character. So if you /list at manastone you can't even /list at pained soul or holgresh camp a year later.
Ghost_of_Fippy
07-20-2024, 02:55 PM
Wipe them both.
Start one at current timeline - All patches are in. Exact timeline we're on now.
Start other as progression - Legacy items and all.
But make the /list system only ever work once for the character. So if you /list at manastone you can't even /list at pained soul or holgresh camp a year later.
Wipe them both, and you will be playing in the sandbox by yourself wondering where everyone went.
Zuranthium
07-20-2024, 03:31 PM
Solist constantly has awful takes. Erasing characters would be a terrible decision, people would rightly be mad as hell. The point of having different servers should be different rulesets. It's most sensible to let Blue stand as the "locked in endgame Velious era" museum, and move characters to that server as needed, while Green and Red are used for other purposes.
Solist
07-21-2024, 07:42 AM
Wipe them both, and you will be playing in the sandbox by yourself wondering where everyone went.
Nah. Just the whinging casuals who should have gone to TAKP 6+years ago.
P99 is competitive EQ. If you wipe it all, everyone just does it all again.
About 10 very noisy morons will cry and piss and moan. Most people realise it isn't the items that are the fun part. It's having items others dont have that is fun. It doesn't matter if that's abashii's or polished granite tomahawks.
The haves will always be the haves. The have nots will always be the have nots. Special nursing home servers don't help the situation, they cement the fact even further. At least new servers give people hope.
Wipe it clean. We've been asking to wipe it clean since 2010. It's been broken that long.
Ghost_of_Fippy
07-21-2024, 04:44 PM
About 10 very noisy morons will cry and piss and moan.
Yeah, you have zero sense of self awareness to listen to yourself.
Troxx
07-21-2024, 04:55 PM
If it’s wiped clean, I bet 75% of the player base minimum is gone.
Sonark
07-21-2024, 07:22 PM
Green was meant to be the server that was wiped to make room for another Green.
There was supposed to be a perpetual Green that would reboot every what, 2 and a half years, ish?
And characters were supposed to be shuffled to Blue, so you wouldn't lose all your progress from Green.
But then, it became clear the devs underestimated how everyone on Green was just people from Blue, who had filled all their character slots on both servers, and what a mess that would make, so now nothing happens.
The only way to stay true to their classic vision (lol irony) is to wipe Green completely and start over, and so on.
I agree completely that people will probably just leave forever if that happens.
Solist
07-22-2024, 05:45 AM
Devs: We have 8 char slots.
Devs: We explain clearly before green how character slots will be handled.
Devs: When Teal launched we again very clearly explain how those slots will be handled.
People: fill 8 slots on both and duplicate names.
Devs:
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cd288
07-22-2024, 11:22 AM
OP, to answer your question, when Green launched they stated that if you have more than 8 chars between the two servers on the same account, when they merged you'd only see the first 8 characters (I believe it's in alphabetical order). In order to access the additional characters, you'd have to delete some of the 8 characters that were shown on the character select screen. This was a limitation with the Titanium client IIRC.
Who knows if they'd be able to code a workaround in. Point being at the time of launch (and today still I believe) it's unknown if that would be possible so it's better to make sure you're not creating, say, more than 4 characters on Blue and more than 4 on Green on the same account.
Swish
07-22-2024, 05:47 PM
OP, to answer your question, when Green launched they stated that if you have more than 8 chars between the two servers on the same account, when they merged you'd only see the first 8 characters (I believe it's in alphabetical order). In order to access the additional characters, you'd have to delete some of the 8 characters that were shown on the character select screen. This was a limitation with the Titanium client IIRC.
Who knows if they'd be able to code a workaround in. Point being at the time of launch (and today still I believe) it's unknown if that would be possible so it's better to make sure you're not creating, say, more than 4 characters on Blue and more than 4 on Green on the same account.
Transferring characters to other accounts could get spicy.
Ripqozko
07-22-2024, 07:26 PM
There wont be a merge, hope that helped.
cd288
07-23-2024, 01:39 PM
Transferring characters to other accounts could get spicy.
Yeah I doubt they'd ever allow that
JayDee
07-26-2024, 02:30 AM
How would you even deal with the issue if duplicate names. Cannot just add a letter because people can and in many cases will deliberately take them. And the staff sure as hell isn't going to allow name changes for hundreds if not thousands of characters.
Jimjam
07-26-2024, 02:32 AM
How would you even deal with the issue if duplicate names. Cannot just add a letter because people can and in many cases will deliberately take them. And the staff sure as hell isn't going to allow name changes for hundreds if not thousands of characters.
Maybe copy the crossserver tell system
Green.Jimjam
Blue.Jimjam
Maybe append a character forbidden by char creation
Jimjam1
Jimjam2
Rimitto
07-26-2024, 11:02 PM
Maybe copy the crossserver tell system
Green.Jimjam
Blue.Jimjam
Maybe append a character forbidden by char creation
Jimjam1
Jimjam2
basically just the starcraft way of naming goes fairly easily... each account gets a 4-8 digit set of numbers so an infinite amount of jimjams can flood the server. :rolleyes:
Drueric
08-04-2024, 11:12 PM
Wipe them both, and you will be playing in the sandbox by yourself wondering where everyone went.
I have quit playing while I wait for the great reset. I am not alone. Now you can stop wondering why P99 is a ghost town. We are all waiting.
Rimitto
08-05-2024, 03:02 AM
I have quit playing while I wait for the great reset. I am not alone. Now you can stop wondering why P99 is a ghost town. We are all waiting.
Ghost Town? I was wondering why things were so peaceful lately. No poopsocking beardnecks permacamping things like droga mobs, hasten, or xalgoz. :cool:
cd288
08-05-2024, 10:44 AM
How would you even deal with the issue if duplicate names. Cannot just add a letter because people can and in many cases will deliberately take them. And the staff sure as hell isn't going to allow name changes for hundreds if not thousands of characters.
They already solved that upfront. You can only use a name on the other server if you make the character on that same account.
So for instance if you have your account name JayDeeP99Account and on Blue you have Jaydee as a char name, no one can go on Green and make Jaydee. The only way to make Jaydee on Green at that point is to log into JayDeeP99Account and make the char. Then when they merge they just add the X to the end of your Green char's name.
Wipe them both, and you will be playing in the sandbox by yourself wondering where everyone went.
I'll be there witht hem. And I have a strong feeling you will too.
Denosyn
08-18-2024, 02:17 PM
All they have to do is put A. or B. at the end of your Screen login name. Example Jungleboy99 as a login(fake) account name Becomes Jungleboy99g or Jungleboy99b depending on the character list you want to load. This allows a Full merger of all Characters Flawlessly with almost no work other then adding the Qualifier to the login script. Duplicate names I have Zero empathy The Oldest holder of a name by accounts creation day gets the name.
Tethler
08-21-2024, 03:29 AM
All they have to do is put A. or B. at the end of your Screen login name. Example Jungleboy99 as a login(fake) account name Becomes Jungleboy99g or Jungleboy99b depending on the character list you want to load. This allows a Full merger of all Characters Flawlessly with almost no work other then adding the Qualifier to the login script. Duplicate names I have Zero empathy The Oldest holder of a name by accounts creation day gets the name.
Pretty sure when they did server merges back in the day on live servers, they added an x to the end of duplicate names. So, yeah, that sounds about right.
spoil
08-23-2024, 10:40 PM
I listened to some old Sirken interviews on youtube. Rogean, etc. were talking about server mergers in like 2013. I can't believe with that much preparation they fucked up in such an obvious way, if duplicate name/account character limit bullshit is indeed a major roadblock. I don't know anything and even I could have anticipated that problem.
Trelaboon
08-25-2024, 08:43 AM
I don’t know, but I really wish they’d merge blue and green. I play on both, but the fractured community, when both servers are on the same time line makes no sense. I have a bunch of 60’s on blue that are just rotting because the only thing there is to do over there is raid, the rest of the game is pretty much dead. Really disappointing. I miss my blue toons
If it’s wiped clean, I bet 75% of the player base minimum is gone.
if by gone, you mean playing on the new server then yes i think you're correct.
Swish
09-02-2024, 12:28 AM
People always come out from the woodwork when there's a new server. For the legacy pixels, for the personal achievements, for whatever else.
Coming soon(tm)
Jimjam
09-02-2024, 03:33 AM
People always come out from the woodwork when there's a new server. For the legacy pixels, for the personal achievements, for whatever else.
Coming soon(tm)
I just love the low level game under the new server smell. It’s the beat way to do 1-20ish.
FYI - Quarm was Green 2.0 for many people.
cd288
09-03-2024, 10:13 AM
I listened to some old Sirken interviews on youtube. Rogean, etc. were talking about server mergers in like 2013. I can't believe with that much preparation they fucked up in such an obvious way, if duplicate name/account character limit bullshit is indeed a major roadblock. I don't know anything and even I could have anticipated that problem.
You should really go back and read the launch announcements instead of flipping out. They very clearly explained that this isn't a problem that prevents merging and how it would work.
Drueric
09-08-2024, 10:19 AM
Wipe them both, and you will be playing in the sandbox by yourself wondering where everyone went.
Then you can wonder where I and others went who are not playing because we are waiting for a merge/wipe before we play again. Just checking in, still waiting.
ForeverQuest
09-08-2024, 07:19 PM
Combine blue and green (purple), advance purple timeline to Luclin, release new classic server (teal). When teal catches up to the purple timeline, merge it into purple, advance purple's timeline by 1 expansion, then create new teal. Repeat.
Simple, really.
Jimjam
09-09-2024, 03:12 AM
Then you can wonder where I and others went who are not playing because we are waiting for a merge/wipe before we play again. Just checking in, still waiting.
Yea, there are lots of largely inactive players. I like to level toons up to about 20~30 and brand new servers are the funnest way to do this so are a big draw.
Combine blue and green (purple), advance purple timeline to Luclin, release new classic server (teal). When teal catches up to the purple timeline, merge it into purple, advance purple's timeline by 1 expansion, then create new teal. Repeat.
Simple, really.
Yes you are simple, really.
sajbert
09-10-2024, 11:44 AM
A merged green+blue would be named teal. Just pointing this out.
Dualform
09-13-2024, 06:37 PM
I really miss when blue was packed with 2k players.. the server actually felt like a true live experience in that you would see people in just about every zone and low levels gearing up. There just isn't enough active players for two servers with the same ruleset.
Gustoo
09-13-2024, 11:59 PM
Correct. Zero reason for 2 except duplicated pharming operations.
It's hard dealing with terminal servers but they're both way done with their timeline no reason to keep things separate.
Okay the other reason is raiding population just wanting 2x of the same encounter to participate in. Twice as many of X rare items happening.
Jimjam
09-14-2024, 12:57 AM
Correct. Zero reason for 2 except duplicated pharming operations.
It's hard dealing with terminal servers but they're both way done with their timeline no reason to keep things separate.
Okay the other reason is raiding population just wanting 2x of the same encounter to participate in. Twice as many of X rare items happening.
A lot of "sorry you haven't got" and "welfare pixel(!)" comments on the forums, suggesting the value of loot comes from scarcity / competition.
Merging servers will increase both of these, thereby increasing the value of the server.
Swish
09-14-2024, 07:11 PM
I really miss when blue was packed with 2k players.. the server actually felt like a true live experience in that you would see people in just about every zone and low levels gearing up. There just isn't enough active players for two servers with the same ruleset.
It is a shame, currently Quarm has the numbers but you can still find people in most zones on green in the evenings.
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