There are harsher consequences for bad elf posters than shopliftings irl

[Pulgasari]

Is this Brad's Vision?

https://media.tenor.com/6Y2cxddm7QIAAAAM/right-to.gif

[Trexller]

in the few bastions of common sense IRL, things are turning around

DeSantis just passed some pretty solid retail theft/squatting legislation, Florida sheriff's are recommending that citizens shoot home invaders

Oregon has re-criminalized the hard drugs

it won't be long until other states follow suit, money always speaks louder than politics

im kind of glad that these experiments did happen, because now we have real data about soft-on-crime policies, even if it just confirms what we already knew.

there used to be hordes of people saying that strict drug laws create drug addicts, "somehow"

now we have rock solid data to point at when we tell those morons to STFU in the future.

[Pulgasari]

Please note that I am not saying the penalties are stiffer.

I am saying we get fewer mulligans.

They generally get between 40 and 105. We get 1 or 2.

[Trexller]

lol we do get alot of mulligans tho

can't exactly expect them to ignore outright flagrant abuse of the forum, you gotta give them a reason to offer the benefit of the doubt when you are shit-posting

suspensions are the warning, this is the only tool in their toolbox. they aren't gonna babysit us with PM reprimands.

im only on staff's side when other ppl aren't, this is uncomfortable for me...

all i do is weight the scales when the needle falls too far one way or the other

don't pull an Unsung

[Pulgasari]

To put it plainly so noone can be confused - "You can commit the crime of shoplifting more times in real life than you can commit the sin of wrongposting on the P99 elf forums".

There. Let's move forward amicably.

[Trexller]

Let's move forward amicably.

Yes let's do that

on with the clever yet thinly-veiled shitposting!

[Pulgasari]

Yes let's do that

on with the clever yet thinly-veiled shitposting!

Quitting the field for the evening to await the inevitable cd288 post.

On the morrow. :p

[Penish]

wait youre saying drugs dont keep drug addicts safe? hamas is bad

[Smoofers]

109 is derogatory

[Duik]

So now we have a new meaning to the term edgelording?

I suggest Edgewording.

[Toxigen]

but they dindu nuffin they good boys

[cd288]

Quitting the field for the evening to await the inevitable cd288 post.

On the morrow. :p

This made me laugh

[Pulgasari]

This was a bad analogy as it turns out there's a rule against forum crime.

[Toxigen]

macequest

[TheIrateTurk]

in the few bastions of common sense IRL, things are
there used to be hordes of people saying that strict drug laws create drug addicts, "somehow"

now we have rock solid data to point at when we tell those morons to STFU in the future.
Portugal etc.

[cd288]

Yup. Or Portland I think was another example. What we learned is there needs to be a middle ground. There need to be laws and enforcement, but not so strict that an addict feels like they can't even seek assistance or help (whether to quit or in an actual emergency).

[TheIrateTurk]

I don't think I'd cite Portland as an example of a successful city, but sure

[Pulgasari]

Portugal etc.

Most of the claims being made for the ‘success of Portugal’s decriminalisation of all types of drug use are false claims. (https://www.dalgarnoinstitute.org.au/images/resources/pdf/dart/The_Truth_on_Portugal_December_2018.pdf)



Decriminalisation has increased drug use for all age-groups

Decriminalisation has seen sharp increases amongst high-school students

Portugal’s drug use, other than for heroin, was initially lower than European
averages

It is not clear what caused major decreases in opiate use before decriminalisation,
but opiate use was in fact declining before decriminalisation

While drug deaths in Portugal are much lower in Portugal due to heroin being
smoked or snorted rather than injected, drug overdose mortality is currently
increasing

HIV decreases are mostly not due to decriminalisation

Other countries have proven interventions which have markedly reduced drug use,
with coerced or mandatory rehab acceptable to their populations

Australia’s Tough on Drugs shows a far superior success to Portugal


A newly released national survey suggests the percent of adults who have used illicit drugs increased to 12.8 percent in 2022, up from 7.8 in 2001, though still below European averages. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/07/07/portugal-drugs-decriminalization-heroin-crack/)

[Pulgasari]

If anything, I would credit Portugal's drug addiction successes compared to the rest of Europe to their possession of a Living King

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/127b9571-3b6a-4e75-84cb-7f2516d6d190.jpg

[TheIrateTurk]

Most of the claims being made for the ‘success of Portugal’s decriminalisation of all types of drug use are false claims. (https://www.dalgarnoinstitute.org.au/images/resources/pdf/dart/The_Truth_on_Portugal_December_2018.pdf)



A newly released national survey suggests the percent of adults who have used illicit drugs increased to 12.8 percent in 2022, up from 7.8 in 2001, though still below European averages. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/07/07/portugal-drugs-decriminalization-heroin-crack/)

Rat park, etc.

[magnetaress]

No it's not Brad's vision.

I made a really funny joke with my 9/11 humor poll and I got the crazy blue haired response.

No reference to war. Even if WWIII is literally being funded by lobbiests wearing actual hamas headbands shipping violent thugs to a campus near u.

At some point you gotta make a stand for the right thing. Falling in line and pretending like nothing is wrong because we are afraid of losing privileges is 100% how Nazi take over.

[magnetaress]

P.s. I am not a rat in rat park. I'm a rabid feline with BPD. Tapeworms. And mange.

[Pulgasari]

P.s. I am not a rat in rat park.

It's an uncommon 'sona.

https://furscience.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/36-All-Species-1-1024x772.png

[magnetaress]

It's an uncommon 'sona.

https://furscience.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/36-All-Species-1-1024x772.png

https://i.imgur.com/pIGBbcl.jpeg

[Ciderpress]

The notion of soft-on-crime being desirable or that "tough on crime" is accordingly some kind of pejorative is insane. People do not seem to understand that criminals, by definition, will take ten miles if you give them an inch.

Advocates' argument is always "even with strict penalties people still commit crime!!" yeah no shit sherlock, but do they commit more or less? This is not, as they say, rocket science.

If a crime carries a penalty of 10 years in prison instead of a 100 dollar fine, people will obviously be much less likely to risk committing it, because most potential criminals still have basic rational self interest and are not completely insane schizophrenics.

[Pulgasari]

Rat park, etc.

This 38-year old study is still spreading bad ideas about addiction (https://theoutline.com/post/2205/this-38-year-old-study-is-still-spreading-bad-ideas-about-addiction)

[Trexller]

At some point you gotta make a stand for the right thing. Falling in line and pretending like nothing is wrong because we are afraid of losing privileges is 100% how Nazi take over.

Yep.

[TheIrateTurk]

I thought you Americans were all about freedom

[Ciderpress]

I thought you Americans were all about freedom

Some more than others.

[Ciderpress]

Some people have a strange relationship with the concept, where they think you're violating their freedom to violate other people's freedoms. You're free to protest peacefully, for example. You're not free to block traffic and menace and intimidate other people, those things are crimes which impede the freedom of others. Depending on framing though, this scenario is spun as some kind of police state crackdown on free speech, which it isn't.

[magnetaress]

The problem is a certain segment of the population will immediately sink to personal attacks and believe that is sufficient to validate themselves and their beliefs and they literally do not want to hear reason at this point.

I beg of the moderators to not cater to them. Just shadowban these muppets and lets get back to having fun.

[magnetaress]

Some people have a strange relationship with the concept, where they think you're violating their freedom to violate other people's freedoms. You're free to protest peacefully, for example. You're not free to block traffic and menace and intimidate other people, those things are crimes which impede the freedom of others. Depending on framing though, this scenario is spun as some kind of police state crackdown on free speech, which it isn't.

They don't want to have a civil discussion or approach anything with any humor and that should be considered a form of insanity and dangerous behavior. Also people really do it for the money/fame/narcissism... and when there are no good jobs and no reason to be a part of a family because your family was turned into a dysfunctional one by greed and entitlement... wel...

[TheIrateTurk]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CrJXnGaDbXQ

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SlC3Zivr8xc

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cqS2jqJhp0s

lol

[magnetaress]

It's def smart to steel alchahol and chocolate donutes as a homeless person

>alchahol keeps well and is a painkiller
>chocolate is full of vitimans and kills hunger

(these ppl need to be in a safe place where they don't "need to steal") its uncivilized taht we let them self harm

[magnetaress]

I also think it is time to nuke this thred

[arvidez]

we are taking the backward step in what david icke calls/called 'the totalitarian two step'.

take some breaths and remember.

[Trexller]

Really, we're quoting David icke? The lizard king?

[magnetaress]

He's a cool dude. Too much of a hippy dogooder tho.

Long live the queen!

https://i.imgur.com/gtFDb3B.jpeg

[Pulgasari]

Really, we're quoting David icke? The lizard king?

I also think it is time to nuke this thred

[Trexller]

Mag you have a baby dragon?

If not, you should get a baby dragon... i bet you'd hit it off with an iksar broodling like the one in that pic, its a bearded dragon

[Duik]

My dog always eats only bearded dragons. Blue tongues and skinks she leaves alone.

Maybe she is Trichophobic. Dunno, but it saves on dog food.

[Pulgasari]

My dog always eats only bearded dragons. Blue tongues and skinks she leaves alone.

Maybe she is Trichophobic. Dunno, but it saves on dog food.

I got good loot today with the help of your snake dog blokes, cunt.

Thank you, oi oi oi! :)

[TheIrateTurk]

nice now everyone in this thread is not only elf simulator playing loser but also david icke adjacent; well played

[arvidez]

white supremacist, lizard people. to each their own fantasy.

[Ciderpress]

hey now I have it on good authority white supremacists are totally everywhere and there are tons of them and they are very dangerous but I just never seem to see any and it always seems like 99% of violence is not committed by anyone resembling a white supremacist because it's not the year 1896 incase somebody missed that memo

[Trexller]

oh yeah this thread is going down

https://blogs.oracle.com/content/published/api/v1.1/assets/CONTC5603A66DCFA46D28B6E9DFD930595C3/Medium?format=jpg&channelToken=12f676b76bf44b4e9b22e6b36ebfe358

[magnetaress]

*** SINGLE MOSt massiVE TriGGER WarNiNG! *** -LykXHjvFN4?si=ecTtnx7rEmZAhcCi

pretty funny tho

[magnetaress]

G-d bless florida for tear gassing the idiots.

Man.

I am rly sad now for this country. (not for tear gassing morons tho)

[Trexller]

Why are you sad?

Morons getting tear gassed is a sign that things are on the right track

[magnetaress]

prayin but look everywhere else and look at the ppl in the idiot crowd, baby faced, helpless, they are all prey how the f did we get here.

Even I am not this stupid.

[magnetaress]

afraid to say more butt if i get banned b4 i hit 10k posts again

g-d bless

[magnetaress]

well fuck

i'll prob be banned for this

butt whatever

ZU2q3xBsexo?si=UtOng1LUnvqw-wdx

Don't let the propoganda and bullshit money grubbing 'save the children people' rot ur brains

G-d bless

[magnetaress]

i dont give a shit what his politics are tbh btw :p

[TheIrateTurk]

prayin but look everywhere else and look at the ppl in the idiot crowd, baby faced, helpless, they are all prey how the f did we get here.

Even I am not this stupid.

Bad parenting for generations. From like the 1940s onwards.

Each generation doubles down and raises a bunch of even bigger crybaby douchebags.

[Toxigen]

cant shoplift if you dindu nuffin

[Wakanda]

Please note that I am not saying the penalties are stiffer.

I am saying we get fewer mulligans.

They generally get between 40 and 105. We get 1 or 2.

It's also extremely political. It reminds me of the famous Jack Dorsey, Vijaya Gadde & Tim Pool debate on Joe Rogan's podcast. People will label me as a bigot but the reality is, I don't think a Muslim should have to conform to woke ideology, and conversely, I don't think a woke person should have to conform to Muslim ideology. I would be as equally offended if my trans friend got banned from this game because their world view offended someone's religion as I would be if my Muslim friend got banned from this game because their religion forbids them from going against their faith to appease said woke people.

Also a lot of this stuff isn't really even enforceable either. Some of the best drama we've ever had on EverQuest, and even on P99, are instances where someone lied about their gender IRL.

https://www.reddit.com/r/project1999/comments/glbua5/what_happened_with_someones_wife_dying_and_it/

This is just one example. I remember the Asian dude who lied about being a hot chick when P99 first launched to scam dudes out of items and free PL services.

Like is P99 going to start requiring a form of ID so we can verify gender identities? Perhaps they should require you to state your gender identity when you create your account that way your character name can appear a certain color.

But I also wonder how this simulator was able to survive for 10 years without these policies? I wonder even more so, how EQ TLPs, which people pay to play on, consist of some of the most heated political debates that take place all hours of the day, and yet people don't get banned?

It blows my mind that it's easier to get banned from P99 than it is WoW in 2024. If the rules had always been this over-the-top and care bear, it would be different, but bait and switching after people spent years of their life building characters is whack. The only people who disagree are the people whose ideals are aligned with the current clearly partisan rule sets.

It comes off more as a desire to control people than it does a push for actual social justice. And quite frankly, it's weird to see these changes happening now, rather than 5 years ago, given the current atmosphere and the fact that censorship of conservatives is becoming increasingly unpopular and less common.

[Duik]

Maybe the person wiff da power (admins and mods) just couldnt be fucked hearing (reading) about <insert banal creepy subject>. Maybe it is that simple.

[Pulgasari]

Maybe the person wiff da power (admins and mods) just couldnt be fucked hearing (reading) about <insert banal creepy subject>. Maybe it is that simple.

It's actually a good trip if you follow it along.

You shouldn't learn anything but you'l be entertained for sure.

[magnetaress]

So let me get this right...someone pretended to be three people and your upset someone was dumb enough to go along with it.


Lots of dumb guilds and guild leaders and fake friends on green.

Boring.

[cd288]

It's also extremely political. It reminds me of the famous Jack Dorsey, Vijaya Gadde & Tim Pool debate on Joe Rogan's podcast. People will label me as a bigot but the reality is, I don't think a Muslim should have to conform to woke ideology, and conversely, I don't think a woke person should have to conform to Muslim ideology. I would be as equally offended if my trans friend got banned from this game because their world view offended someone's religion as I would be if my Muslim friend got banned from this game because their religion forbids them from going against their faith to appease said woke people.

Also a lot of this stuff isn't really even enforceable either. Some of the best drama we've ever had on EverQuest, and even on P99, are instances where someone lied about their gender IRL.

https://www.reddit.com/r/project1999/comments/glbua5/what_happened_with_someones_wife_dying_and_it/

This is just one example. I remember the Asian dude who lied about being a hot chick when P99 first launched to scam dudes out of items and free PL services.

Like is P99 going to start requiring a form of ID so we can verify gender identities? Perhaps they should require you to state your gender identity when you create your account that way your character name can appear a certain color.

But I also wonder how this simulator was able to survive for 10 years without these policies? I wonder even more so, how EQ TLPs, which people pay to play on, consist of some of the most heated political debates that take place all hours of the day, and yet people don't get banned?

It blows my mind that it's easier to get banned from P99 than it is WoW in 2024. If the rules had always been this over-the-top and care bear, it would be different, but bait and switching after people spent years of their life building characters is whack. The only people who disagree are the people whose ideals are aligned with the current clearly partisan rule sets.

It comes off more as a desire to control people than it does a push for actual social justice. And quite frankly, it's weird to see these changes happening now, rather than 5 years ago, given the current atmosphere and the fact that censorship of conservatives is becoming increasingly unpopular and less common.

The "I'm new I swear" guy goes on a rant bashing the staff, including referencing how things were on the server years ago. What a surprise.

Based on the tenor of this comment I bet he totally wasn't banned for being racist and/or spewing insults/ignorant shit at people

[booter]

The "I'm new I swear" guy goes on a rant bashing the staff, including referencing how things were on the server years ago. What a surprise.

Based on the tenor of this comment I bet he totally wasn't banned for being racist and/or spewing insults/ignorant shit at people

there are only two people i could think this account belongs to lol

[Toxigen]

not me

[cd288]

there are only two people i could think this account belongs to lol

Probably Nirgon lol

[Toxigen]

we wuz kangz

[Pulgasari]

not me

Yeah definitely not you. I think that person like Jews.