Considering Starting Over

[GardylooGubbins]

Bit of Background:

I currently main a Lv. 53 Druid. I've got around 15k in gear if I sold it all off, and could port around to make a bit more. I'm getting tired of the class and thinking about starting fresh with an alt and selling everything I've got to gear the alt up a bit.

My Question:

What race/class combo would you make if you only had around 15k to play around with. Obviously, I can't afford a fungi or any of the other traditional mega-twink items, so I'm wondering what I could get the most "bang for my buck" alt-wise.

[Keebz]

Depends on the play style you're looking for. I personally enjoy the knights, but my 10k Halfling Warrior was a blast as well, and Monk is a classic of course. I'd probably skip Ranger since you're a Druid already. If you do a melee jboots + iksar BP would be my priorities.

A pure caster isn't OP with 15k, but jboots, some HP and ample spell money ain't nothin. An Iksar necro or a whatever enchanter would be sitting pretty with those starting funds.

[spoil]

That's about the point it starts becoming a real grind.

With 15k, not knowing your preferences I would say some kind of caster. It's really nice to be able to start a new character with Jboots MQ, some WR bags, gear with stats in every slot and money for spells/reagents, etc. That's living pretty good.

My personal choice would be enchanter with whatever race you think looks best, Jboots MQ, GGR and Rod of Glamor. That's good enough to take you to 60, with the rest into hp/ac rings and then basic CHA gear.

[Toxigen]

Bit of Background:

I currently main a Lv. 53 Druid. I've got around 15k in gear if I sold it all off, and could port around to make a bit more. I'm getting tired of the class and thinking about starting fresh with an alt and selling everything I've got to gear the alt up a bit.

My Question:

What race/class combo would you make if you only had around 15k to play around with. Obviously, I can't afford a fungi or any of the other traditional mega-twink items, so I'm wondering what I could get the most "bang for my buck" alt-wise.

Enchanter, 100%

You'll be able to farm plenty of cash for your mega twink melee.

High elf, max cha. I'll make a magelo for you.

[Toxigen]

Bit of Background:

I currently main a Lv. 53 Druid. I've got around 15k in gear if I sold it all off, and could port around to make a bit more. I'm getting tired of the class and thinking about starting fresh with an alt and selling everything I've got to gear the alt up a bit.

My Question:

What race/class combo would you make if you only had around 15k to play around with. Obviously, I can't afford a fungi or any of the other traditional mega-twink items, so I'm wondering what I could get the most "bang for my buck" alt-wise.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Blue:10k_budget_enc

save the rest of your money for spells, the biggest one being bedlam at 58 (10k?)

ideally you want to stay between 200 and 205 cha, there are obviously lots of options later if you want to spend plat to really beef out your enc...big cha items like neriad shawl allow you to ditch the shitty cha items and get more HP / AC which is all that matters after 205 cha

enc gets really dumb once you get FT8 and mana becomes entirely non-issue

that being said, enc is really the highest "skillcap" class and if you're not piloting it efficiently no amount of gear is going to save you

[GardylooGubbins]

https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Blue:10k_budget_enc

save the rest of your money for spells, the biggest one being bedlam at 58 (10k?)

ideally you want to stay between 200 and 205 cha, there are obviously lots of options later if you want to spend plat to really beef out your enc...big cha items like neriad shawl allow you to ditch the shitty cha items and get more HP / AC which is all that matters after 205 cha

enc gets really dumb once you get FT8 and mana becomes entirely non-issue

that being said, enc is really the highest "skillcap" class and if you're not piloting it efficiently no amount of gear is going to save you

Nice thanks! I've considered enchanter before, but could never pull the trigger, due to the notorious skill requirement to play well, but maybe it's time to give it a try.

[Toxigen]

Nice thanks! I've considered enchanter before, but could never pull the trigger, due to the notorious skill requirement to play well, but maybe it's time to give it a try.

if you did some charming on the druid you'll be fine...enc just does it better

[cd288]

Nice thanks! I've considered enchanter before, but could never pull the trigger, due to the notorious skill requirement to play well, but maybe it's time to give it a try.

The "skill" requirement is really only applicable if you're soloing high end content in dangerous dungeons. Otherwise it's a fairly easy exercise to charm kill things for XP.

Groups are obviously a bit more involved since you have to be on your game mezzing things while also keeping an NPC charmed as a pet and controlling it on breaks, plus buffing various people in the group. That's the pro and con of grouping as an Enchanter...you're one of the most important/useful group members, but it's also highly active so you have to be paying attention, can't take a quick AFK easily, etc.

[Toxigen]

Just find good clerics and make it easy on yourself.

Anything more than duo / trio is just bloat.

[cd288]

Yeah but if I'm grouping it's because I don't care about EXP efficiency for that play session. I'm just looking to crack a couple beers and shoot the shit with a bunch of people while we crawl through the Hole to the docks for example and kill a bunch of stuff.

[spoil]

You'll want a Jboots MQ and a GGR on the chanter. That's 10k at least right there.

[cd288]

You'll want a Jboots MQ and a GGR on the chanter. That's 10k at least right there.

You can survive without JBoots for awhile if you need, and then just go do the quest yourself

[spoil]

He says he has 15k to spend. The idea that you wouldn't buy Jboots is not even worth discussing.

[Toxigen]

why?

most of your time is gonna be spent in dungeons

sow pots are fine for travel, i didnt get jboots until i hit 60 (enc was first char playing eq/p99)

you dont need a ggr either...i never got one until late

what he needs more as a beginner enchanter is decent enough gear to ease the learning curve...being in rags with jboots and ggr would be a huge mistake lol

[cd288]

I would rather buy the GGR plus some CHA gear (and INT/mana as a bonus) while saving plat to help with spells over buying JBoots that aren't really needed even if not in dungeons. Sure they can be used as a GCD clickie outdoors, but can just buy the Rod for the Alliance clicky for that for like barely any plat.

[strongNpretty]

I always find stripping gear for plat from an old character is a bad idea. at some point you realize you could use that character for something, to help you with an alt somewhere along the road.

If you have only 15k worth of gear on a 53 druid. You could actually just use that druid to camp gear for your alt, while still probably making money, and exp on your druid. 2 birds stoned at once. The amount of times i've stripped a character, for an alt, and regretted it- Is every single time.

[cd288]

Fair point there. If you have a Druid with all the ports and you're not trying to mega-twink an alt, just join Dial-A-Port and port consistently for like a week or so. That's enough to get multiple four figures in plat right there (if you do it right by binding at hammer hill etc.) which is enough to do a basic twink of almost any character (by basic twink I mean get them decently geared in all slots, not insanely twinked out).

[spoil]

why?

most of your time is gonna be spent in dungeons

sow pots are fine for travel, i didnt get jboots until i hit 60 (enc was first char playing eq/p99)

you dont need a ggr either...i never got one until late

what he needs more as a beginner enchanter is decent enough gear to ease the learning curve...being in rags with jboots and ggr would be a huge mistake lol

Sigh. You don't "need" any items to start a character. I'm responding to the OP's question, specifically what is the best way to twink a character with 15k.

A huge mistake would be imagining that spending 15k on gear for a chanter will feel more impactful than the gear you can get with 4k. What will make a big difference in efficiency or not hating your life is GGR and Jboots. That leaves you with more than enough for a Rod of Glamor > hp/ac rings > Crude Stein and other economy cha or int caster gear.

[Keebz]

[re: Jboots] Sow pots' effect and—more importantly—duration scale with level, so as a result are pretty bad until the mid levels or so. Whereas Jboots is Jboots always and forever. Level 1 Jboots are not necessary, but it's a luxury everyone should experience once imho.

Given OP is a 53 druid, farming them over buying them seems like move.

OP, don't forget to put your new character on a separate login account!

[Toxigen]

jboots and ggr or bedlam at 58

i know what im taking

[PatChapp]

Goblin ring is handy but completely unnecessary
J boots very nice,not needed. Can camp them yourself around 50 and still get decent xp

[Toxigen]

Goblin ring is handy but completely unnecessary
J boots very nice,not needed. Can camp them yourself around 50 and still get decent xp

this

on a 15k budget you get neither of these

i know opinions are like assholes and er'body has one but man just some bad advice gettin thrown around

[eqravenprince]

Monk, Pal, SK, Ranger, Bard - all decent solo/group options when twinking. Just get decent weapon(s), haste item, and HP items and you'll breeze through the first many levels no fungi needed.

Warrior, Rogue - good group options when twinking, pretty sucky at soloing if that's important to you.

Necro, Wizard, Magician, Enchanter, Shaman, Cleric - gear makes little difference. So you could play one of these and roll the 15k into them. If you want an excuse to spend 15k for this next character, it would be mostly wasteful to blow that money on any of these classes. Grab a few +HP items and you are golden with any of these classes.

Consider getting ALL/ALL gear in case you don't like your alt and want to switch, you can just hand the gear to the next class you try.

[spoil]

jboots and ggr or bedlam at 58

i know what im taking

I know first you said he should spend the plat on decent gear, now it's save for spells. Both are wrong answers. Playing an enchanter solo you can easily earn 10k before you reach level 58. More easily if you twink sensibly.

GGR is the best solo leveling tool for a chanter, you're an idiot if you have 15k to blow and don't buy it. Getting that charm break at the last possible moment to use your cheapest nuke(s) makes a big difference in mana efficiency over the course of your character's entire life up to level 60. Not to mention the times you're a split-second too late with the invis landing and you get zero exp, the mana saved from those invis casts and the free spell slot. Jboots is optional, obviously, it's just clearly the best option. No enchanter gear you can buy by saving an extra 4-5k is going to make a measurable difference. Just buy the two good items, what's left over from 15k is enough to fill out your gear slots with the obvious things.

[Vivitron]

Nice thanks! I've considered enchanter before, but could never pull the trigger, due to the notorious skill requirement to play well, but maybe it's time to give it a try.
If you like and even prefer charming I recommend the enchanter. If not, probably try another option.

Yeah but if I'm grouping it's because I don't care about EXP efficiency for that play session. I'm just looking to crack a couple beers and shoot the shit with a bunch of people while we crawl through the Hole to the docks for example and kill a bunch of stuff.
I also enjoyed this on my enchanter, and other than having more efficient alternatives than full groups it's a top tier class for it.

I always find stripping gear for plat from an old character is a bad idea. at some point you realize you could use that character for something, to help you with an alt somewhere along the road.

If you have only 15k worth of gear on a 53 druid. You could actually just use that druid to camp gear for your alt, while still probably making money, and exp on your druid. 2 birds stoned at once. The amount of times i've stripped a character, for an alt, and regretted it- Is every single time.
This is also my perspective. Especially so if you go with a caster, where the extra gear has less of an impact.

[cd288]

this

on a 15k budget you get neither of these

i know opinions are like assholes and er'body has one but man just some bad advice gettin thrown around

Well you could get both for less than 15k, but yeah leaves pretty limited amount of plat for any additional gear. I would skip the JBoots (if you're outdoors half the time there's some Druid or Shaman soloing somewhere who can SoW you for free if you want it) and go GGR...the latter isn't critical either, but freeing up a spell slot and having instant charm break is pretty nice.

[Toxigen]

if he doesn't plan on soloing all the way up, GGR is basically useless

if hes exclusively solo, then sure, its worth

[cd288]

Ture. I would assume he'd end up soloing a bunch (if nothing else than just do to the current state of the server). Especially if charm killing in a dungeon setting I'd always love having that extra spell slot freed up

[beboprocksteady]

Bro's level 53, he can camp an AC on the druid for the twink. No reason to pay someone for a MQ. GGR camp isn't worth the time IMO, though, but GGR isn't necessary early on anyway.

[cd288]

Bro's level 53, he can camp an AC on the druid for the twink. No reason to pay someone for a MQ. GGR camp isn't worth the time IMO, though, but GGR isn't necessary early on anyway.

Accurate. Just buy the GGR and camp the AC for the ring

[Rimitto]

screw all the rest of these losers, make a bard, be a somebody.