I think the time has come for Shadows of Lucin

[Fumoo112]

I think the time is NOW. I know years back p99 made an agreement with the owners of eq. But given the change of hands over the years, the current devs working on other projects. Other private servers making content beyond Velious, i think for the future of p99 they need to expand the content. The time is now.

[Naethyn]

i support this

[Pulgasari]

wtb sorrowsong boots

[imahos]

I would love it. But not going to happen. We might not even have the needed firepower to merge the servers atm.

Luckily, for people who need Luclin, there are options. Personally I'm going to wait a while to a) see if Quarm still exists after a year and b) wait until better twink gear is in-era so I don't have to do a classic 1-50 leveling experience.

[Fumoo112]

What do you mean firepower?

[Ciderpress]

no luclin sucks.

the bazaar sucks and mooncats suck and the whole goofy space fantasy orgy is terrible and bad and only terrible bad people like it.

custom content would be cool, but requires a massive time investment by volunteer devs. But so does adding luclin.

add the pop zones that make sense lore-wise, velious added mischief and growth, the logical next expansion should have been pop anyway. Just remove pok and tune the encounters not to need any luclin gear to beat, boom done.

[Toxigen]

oh look its this thread again

[imahos]

What do you mean firepower?

Dev time.

[Trexller]

What do you mean firepower?

human beings with the free time, desire to, and finger-tendon strength to code a function luclin expansion.

these guys have spent thousands of man-hours DE-LUCLIFYING titanium to make it a "classic client"

every single one of these half-baked asinine threads gets answered the same way:

"you are asking devs to UNDO THEN REDO everything they have done since 2008"

and yet i bet this thread will go 4 pages as every halfwit chimes in, "yeah it'd be nice if we had this", "no no its actually easy to do this and this, but i work in food service", "keep velious content but give access to AAs", "Just fix bows then 1000s of people will play Red99", "Trump is a douche bag", "But but I wanna play a pussy beastlord", "Nexus Scion will kill the port economy", "SKs can't fully utilize greenmist without Ssra"

2 weeks go by, thread fades, month goes by, another PLS LUCLIN thread pops up

suck it up and play TAKP like a real man

[Ciderpress]

tbf that's why I specifically ask only for "custom content", which is a concept the actual devs actually did float.

[Ciderpress]

I think people assume adding luclin to p99 is more or less the same thing as sony turning on the next expansion on a tlp. Big noper on that.

[Fumoo112]

Well its been 10 years of velious, if you do not adapt and change with the times, the times pass you by. Yes, p99 gets about 1k players on avg between the two servers. But the new people coming in, which isnt many trying to level is near impossible unless you make a solo class. Healers and CC are non exsistant at lower levels which makes content hard. Just because you guys are 60 with all your raiding gear does not make you right. Its not just about you , i look at it as a new player. Even in a Live eq with the TLPs, it gets stale. So much good content not experinced by the good people of Norrath. Bazaar is trash. I agree, hate it, it ruined the market but there are so many good zones and much more content that is good inside Luclin and PoP.

[Ciderpress]

Ok well you code it

[Fumoo112]

In time Project quarm will take over, and p99 will cease to really exist. Id be on Quarm myself if it wasnt for my friends not wanting to be over there because of some of the bugs.

[Fumoo112]

You could probably release Lucin and just leave the Bazaar out honestly. And act like coding isnt turning into a AI job. Soon most coders will be out of jobs. Nvida is even projecting coding jobs to go obsolete.

[Toxigen]

In time Project quarm will take over, and p99 will cease to really exist.

doubt it

instanced raids lol

[Fumoo112]

TLPs have instance raids and they seem to do just fine, just releasing them, and still making Money off of them.

[Imago]

TLPs have instance raids and they seem to do just fine, just releasing them, and still making Money off of them.

Not classic tho

[Fumoo112]

Instance raids are just fine, keep open world like TLPs do and then make instance raid encounters, not everyone has 4 days to wait on a spawn, the world is different. People move much faster these days. It is still very possible to have the classic experince with instance raids as well. I get it right, preserve the state of eq when it was the best i get it , im a player from 99. But those times are gone just enjoy it, but just doing velious content gets stale there has to be something else.

[Pulgasari]

no luclin sucks.

the bazaar sucks and mooncats suck and the whole goofy space fantasy orgy is terrible and bad and only terrible bad people like it.

custom content would be cool, but requires a massive time investment by volunteer devs. But so does adding luclin.

add the pop zones that make sense lore-wise, velious added mischief and growth, the logical next expansion should have been pop anyway. Just remove pok and tune the encounters not to need any luclin gear to beat, boom done.

open source dalaya and get staff that aren't cuckoo birds

[Runnage]

oh look its this thread again

Yeah, cause it's needed. Luclin is long overdue on these servers.

[Runnage]

Jesus Christ dude, you need a tissue? This guy is filling up the Ocean of Tears all by himself cause someone suggested a good idea.

[chillybob]

TLPs have instance raids and they seem to do just fine, just releasing them, and still making Money off of them.

easy to make money when you don't police people rocking 24 man MQ2 box crews to farm items for RMTquest.

[Duik]

In a year, P99 will die, Quarm will take over.

Cyas in a year then?

Go to eqemulator and check forum (and discord) and search for "making my own server", refine search terms to "I wanna make it stop at <insert expansion>" do I just enable expansion number in server_rules?
Short answer: Yes! But it will use all current server code. Combat, saves, pet power etc. Enjoy.

Long answer: Nope! followed by 50,000 extra steps requiring c++, mysql and perl/lua coding skillz.

<highschool_coder> pipes in with takp has released the DB! Should be easy blah blah. They will be shot down by the 3 or 4 actual coders that frequent the forums pointing out there are thousands of changes needed to bring a server up to era correctness.

So, go do it and see ya never.

[Swish]

I think the time is NOW. I know years back p99 made an agreement with the owners of eq. But given the change of hands over the years, the current devs working on other projects. Other private servers making content beyond Velious, i think for the future of p99 they need to expand the content. The time is now.

You think you want it, but you dont.

[Trexller]

You think you want it, but you dont.

Swish has 255 wisdom with +500 heroic wis

[Ciderpress]

Even the people who have the sweatiest most exclusive pixels here aren't calling for luclin. Most of us play here specifically because luclin was dogshit.

[Ciderpress]

Woahhh look at this new game mechanic, you're outside but it's still treated as underwater! We changed literally one flag! This is game development and progression.

[Fumoo112]

I think you guys are afraid of the content.

[Ciderpress]

I think you guys are afraid of the content.

There's a ton of p99 content I've still never seen nor participated in.

Never been to sleeper's, never played a bard or a shadowknight or a ranger past level 15, never killed literally any dragon in tov unless you count hot drakes as dragons, never rolled a troll shaman and self-found it through that misery gauntlet, never been to najena ever except once by accident, never grouped in sola ever on any character, never really grouped in sol b except for some "bugs" group and I think I died just trying to get to them. Never really grouped in permafrost, droga, chardok, splitpaw, CT, velks except ent groups. Never did a cleric epic, enc epic, nec epic, sk epic, monk epic, wiz epic, mage epic. Never got a good spell off a cliff golem. Never got a VP key, never killed a trak cause the meta is no retards allowed.

There are so many things to do, if you've done them all I fear the smell of your chair.

[Ciderpress]

I almost forgot to mention: I have never been to plane of sky once and I refuse to ever go.

[Pulgasari]

There's a ton of p99 content I've still never seen nor participated in.

Never been to sleeper's, never played a bard or a shadowknight or a ranger past level 15, never killed literally any dragon in tov unless you count hot drakes as dragons, never rolled a troll shaman and self-found it through that misery gauntlet, never been to najena ever except once by accident, never grouped in sola ever on any character, never really grouped in sol b except for some "bugs" group and I think I died just trying to get to them. Never really grouped in permafrost, droga, chardok, splitpaw, CT, velks except ent groups. Never did a cleric epic, enc epic, nec epic, sk epic, monk epic, wiz epic, mage epic. Never got a good spell off a cliff golem. Never got a VP key, never killed a trak cause the meta is no retards allowed.

There are so many things to do, if you've done them all I fear the smell of your chair.

Couldn't you just...not do Luclin content either, if Luclin was added? :eek:

[Trexller]

I think you guys are afraid of the content.

i play on takp when i wanna do luclin/pop/boxing content

i play on p99 when I don't

this is why there are separate sandboxes

anyone who doesn't understand this, cannot be helped.

[Trexller]

and we're already at page 4

it seems i underestimated the amount of you that don't understand the fact that you do not understand what P99 is supposed to be

[Duik]

Couldnt you just not come here if luclin isn't added?
Oops, sorry.

@Ciderpress some of my fondest memories are grouping in many of the zones you listed. Also never went sleepers or VP.
Based on an IRL guild meet up of the largest aussie guild from prexus (Southern Armada) I too feel ive missed very little.
Those guys and girls were wound so tight even at a friendly get together I just left. But only after checking out if the 2IC druid chick (im thinking Redwind or Redwing) was hot as was rumoured.

Those guys defo needed to get out more.

[Duik]

Trex said it better.

[branamil]

You mean you expect the people who take 11 years to fix the muffin vendor to work out all of luclin's bugs ? LoL

[chillybob]

In a year, P99 will die, Quarm will take over.


Blue should be dead by now w/ this logic. Yet still sees highs of 700-800 players some nights.


P99 will never die :cool:

[Runnage]

and we're already at page 4

it seems i underestimated the amount of you that don't understand the fact that you do not understand what P99 is supposed to be

What YOU think it should be. You don't get to decide for me what something is, or isn't. Get off your high horse bro, it's everquest. Grumpy ass old men I swear...

[Duik]

Blue should be dead by now w/ this logic. Yet still sees highs of 700-800 players some nights.


P99 will never die :cool:

Hey numbnuts, try reading the whole post. You missed the besterest bit!

I know reading is hard, but i believe in you.

[Fumoo112]

Are you 9 years old , sounds like you have never made it past level 20 at all , Most of that content is not end game even. Sounds like when Lucin does come around you should stay in the commons. For us normal folk its time. Honestly i dont even think the devs give a shit about these green or blue servers anymore.

[Trexller]

What YOU think it should be. You don't get to decide for me what something is, or isn't. Get off your high horse bro, it's everquest. Grumpy ass old men I swear...

Yeah I do, but it's you who grants me that ability, by refusing to understand the reality on the ground.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Project1999:About

Relive the classic Everquest MMORPG Gaming Experience as it was in 1999 and onward.

Project 1999 is a free to play Emulated Everquest Server giving players the opportunity to experience Classic EQ once again, starting with the original 3 continents and a max level of 60,
with the look and feel of the old interface and several modifications making game mechanics similar to how the game used to be.

the autism in this thread is just obnoxious, and that's coming from an Autistic Man LOL

Runnage is the exact type of douche bag i've been describing, this man is completely unable to understand the scope of what P99 is, and the fact that the luclin content and graphics engine are 100% contrary to the mission of this project. Nor any comprehension at all as to the labor effort required to give this man his pussy beastlord.

as previously stated, this type of person simply cannot be helped.

asking for luclin on P99 is like asking for your car to also be a rocket ship.

[Trexller]

or you could just play Quarm

or TAKP

or Live

or EZ

or any of the dozens of other emus with luclin content

[Trexller]

and for the coup d'etat hat trick

https://wiki.project1999.com/Players:EQLive_Timeline

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1002

How far will this server "progress"? Will we see all of the expansions?
No, this is specifically a classic server meant to recreate the 1999-2001 era of classic Everquest. This server will never see the Shadows of Luclin expansion, but everything up to the last patch before Luclin will be released.

Anyone else still fail to grasp this very basic concept?

[Naethyn]

It would make sense to do the first patch in Luclin that completed all of the velious quests as custom content here.

[Runnage]

Yeah I do, but it's you who grants me that ability, by refusing to understand the reality on the ground.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Project1999:About



the autism in this thread is just obnoxious, and that's coming from an Autistic Man LOL

Runnage is the exact type of douche bag i've been describing, this man is completely unable to understand the scope of what P99 is, and the fact that the luclin content and graphics engine are 100% contrary to the mission of this project. Nor any comprehension at all as to the labor effort required to give this man his pussy beastlord.

as previously stated, this type of person simply cannot be helped.

asking for luclin on P99 is like asking for your car to also be a rocket ship.

You're such a fuckin whiny bitch. Talk about being a DB. Go cry some more you giant fuckin baby.

[Trexller]

You're such a fuckin whiny bitch. Talk about being a DB. Go cry some more you giant fuckin baby.

Lol 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆

And that gentlemen & gentlemen, is the farthest limit of this guy's wits

[Solist]

No need to add Luclin.

Just change the meta to something healthy.

[Fumoo112]

making custom content would be harder than adding Lucin LOl

[Duik]

You're such a fuckin whiny bitch. Talk about being a DB. Go cry some more you giant fuckin baby.

The facts! They hurt our eyes!
It buuurns.

[magnetaress]

Quarm will have legit luclin in a few years.

It's literally 1:600 casts per skillup past 170 skill and int/wis seems to not really help. It's fricken insane.

Honestly live is literally the best place to play if you want to solo or box and don't have the insane amount of time to invest.

[putrid_plum]

I'd love Luclin but I know it wont happen on P99, a merge and reset of the green server would be ok but that probably wont happen either.

I wont lie, my favorite response it "IT'S NOT CLASSIC" when P99 isn't classic so that is probably the dumbest thing anyone can say as a defense to not add Luclin.

[Trexller]

I wont lie, my favorite response it "IT'S NOT CLASSIC" when P99 isn't classic so that is probably the dumbest thing anyone can say as a defense to not add Luclin.

you people must have no idea what effort is required to produce functional software

like when an icon on your desktop or app on your phone shows up, you all must really believe there are some coding fairies that magically make software work and run smoothly

does thousands of man-hours and dollars from a volunteer staff who has less than zero interest in luclin pass muster with you

less than zero interest

does toyota have any interest in building a car that is also an interplanetary vehicle?

but keep trying to order a big mac from wendys, im sure that wendy's just never realized 2 beef patties and russian dressing were possible until you piped in.

they never imagined it

you're a world changer

[Swish]

I'd love Luclin but I know it wont happen on P99, a merge and reset of the green server would be ok but that probably wont happen either.

I wont lie, my favorite response it "IT'S NOT CLASSIC" when P99 isn't classic so that is probably the dumbest thing anyone can say as a defense to not add Luclin.

https://i.imgur.com/apRp7TQ.gif

[Pulgasari]

wtb sorrowsong boots

What was the thorn mail item from Grieg's? A bp or belt with DS I mean.

[Duik]

You guys would get luclin expansion and be happy for 3 minutes then complain that vendor B in <somezone> didnt have muffins.

[Trexller]

You guys would get luclin expansion and be happy for 3 minutes then complain that vendor B in <somezone> didnt have muffins.

This, 110%

These people genuinely don't know what's good for them.

The real scary part is we let them drive cars, hold bank accounts and vote

[Runnage]

you people must have no idea what effort is required to produce functional software

like when an icon on your desktop or app on your phone shows up, you all must really believe there are some coding fairies that magically make software work and run smoothly

does thousands of man-hours and dollars from a volunteer staff who has less than zero interest in luclin pass muster with you

less than zero interest

does toyota have any interest in building a car that is also an interplanetary vehicle?

but keep trying to order a big mac from wendys, im sure that wendy's just never realized 2 beef patties and russian dressing were possible until you piped in.

they never imagined it

you're a world changer

Bro you have no idea what you're talking about. It's fuckin 2024 man, coding isn't what you think it is, even for this game. Stop being a cry baby boomer.

[Swish]

It's not hard, go to TAKP and level a cat beastlord.

[chillybob]

It's not hard, go to TAKP and level a cat beastlord.

[magnetaress]

Bro you have no idea what you're talking about. It's fuckin 2024 man, coding isn't what you think it is, even for this game. Stop being a cry baby boomer.

chatgpt can code now we are like 5 minutes away from chatgpt being able to produce a game of eq's calibre and art style... lol

[Ciderpress]

Bro chatgpt coding is this easy:

dear chatgpt: please make the thing that I want

Presto change: you got it.

[magnetaress]

all u need is 1 human to tweak spell dmg and spawn timers and stuff and one or two humans to fix the crappy mistakes it makes in texturing lawl

[cotterpin]

Even the people who have the sweatiest most exclusive pixels here aren't calling for luclin. Most of us play here specifically because luclin was dogshit.

Luclin was a fantastic expansion with an unfortunately boring final raid zone but everything else about it was great. PoP was even better.

Only the extremely vocal minority feel differently.

[Evia]

Really? I'd say the vocal minority are these luclin/pop people that make the same thread about it 3x a year.

[arvidez]

Luclin was a fantastic expansion with an unfortunately boring final raid zone but everything else about it was great. PoP was even better.

Only the extremely vocal minority feel differently.

the minority being the creators. i'ii give you 0% chance for luclin and 90% coming across as entitled man-baby.

[cotterpin]

Really? I'd say the vocal minority are these luclin/pop people that make the same thread about it 3x a year.

there have been countless polls posted to the forums and the people wanting luclin and/or pop dwarf the people bitching about it by orders of magnitude

[Toxigen]

the minority being the creators. i'ii give you 0% chance for luclin and 90% coming across as entitled man-baby.

as someone who identifies as a baby, this is offensive

[Evia]

there have been countless polls posted to the forums and the people wanting luclin and/or pop dwarf the people bitching about it by orders of magnitude

People might want it, but that doesn't mean you get it

This project was built to be exact the opposite. Like someone else posted, you don't go to Wendy's and demand a Big Mac and then get pissed off and cry that they won't make it happen.

[Toxigen]

People might want it, but that doesn't mean you get it

This project was built to be exact the opposite. Like someone else posted, you don't go to Wendy's and demand a Big Mac and then get pissed off and cry that they won't make it happen.

Sir, this is a 1999 elf sim.

[magnetaress]

It's already gonna happen elsewhere and I think Rogean is retired from the P99 scene. Nilbog can submit all his DB edits elsewhere when he's done.

[Trexller]

https://assets.altarofgaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/barbarian-race-everquest-races.jpg
https://assets.altarofgaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/troll-race-everquest-races.jpg
https://www.giantbomb.com/a/uploads/scale_medium/0/1992/965952-race_iksar_luclin.jpg
https://zam.zamimg.com/images/b/8/b893cf2ec955ddff418e3f9df33373d4.jpg

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

https://i.imgur.com/s2ZcU8W.jpg

Release at Velious. Implement hunter-killer npc's that randomly will hunt you in whatever zone you are in, once you ding lvl 60. They kill you are kicked to blue.

[magnetaress]

https://assets.altarofgaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/barbarian-race-everquest-races.jpg
https://assets.altarofgaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/troll-race-everquest-races.jpg
https://www.giantbomb.com/a/uploads/scale_medium/0/1992/965952-race_iksar_luclin.jpg
https://zam.zamimg.com/images/b/8/b893cf2ec955ddff418e3f9df33373d4.jpg

If they are optional its nbd. I think u can mount now even with horses and elementals turned off.

[Duik]

I like how da man Iksar has like a bra lookin fing on while the chick has tits out tuesday.

[Trexller]

Lol they made the trolls anorexic skinny

[magnetaress]

Lol they made the trolls anorexic skinny

Trolls are always hungry duh.

Both EQ versions of trolls are epic tho. Can't wait to see M&Ms trolls. Can't look for them right now butt will later.

[Pulgasari]

I like how da man Iksar has like a bra lookin fing on while the chick has tits out tuesday.

No nipples anywhere.

[magnetaress]

No nipples anywhere.

They probably just secret ooze from their pits. Don't know of any lizards irl that do that. butt its a proto-mammalian thing.

[Pulgasari]

They probably just secret ooze from their pits. Don't know of any lizards irl that do that. butt its a proto-mammalian thing.

I think snakes give milk from their bellies without any external...I want to call them appendages.

Is it offensive to women if I call them appendages? :o

[magnetaress]

I think snakes give milk from their bellies without any external...I want to call them appendages.

Is it offensive to women if I call them appendages? :o

No it's inclusive now.

[Trexller]

I think snakes give milk from their bellies without any external...I want to call them appendages.

Is it offensive to women if I call them appendages? :o

no it shouldn't be unless someone decides they aren't outraged enough for the day

The mammary gland is an epidermal appendage

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3706056/

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Why do men find boobs sexually attractive?

[wuanahto]

i dont know why the fuck people want shadows of luclin
extreme hp pools
insane ac levels
constant grinding for aas
the start of the end of porting for cash
bane weapons
and i hated how there were no new pets for nec/mag

[Toxigen]

Why do men find boobs sexually attractive?

because they're awesome

[Trexller]

because they're awesome

yep

IYKYK

[cd288]

Well its been 10 years of velious, if you do not adapt and change with the times, the times pass you by. Yes, p99 gets about 1k players on avg between the two servers. But the new people coming in, which isnt many trying to level is near impossible unless you make a solo class. Healers and CC are non exsistant at lower levels which makes content hard. Just because you guys are 60 with all your raiding gear does not make you right. Its not just about you , i look at it as a new player. Even in a Live eq with the TLPs, it gets stale. So much good content not experinced by the good people of Norrath. Bazaar is trash. I agree, hate it, it ruined the market but there are so many good zones and much more content that is good inside Luclin and PoP.

Your mistake is assuming that the intent of the server is to "survive" or "adapt and change with the times". That's not the intent of this server at all. The intent is quite literally to just portray the classic era through Velious. For instance, Nilbog has never cared if 10 player play P99 or 1,000...he cares about making a museum as close to classic as he can.

Also, the issue with population currently isn't because more expansions are needed. The issue is that we have two top heavy servers at the end of the classic era timeline and they haven't been merged. Merge them and the issues you're talking about are drastically reduced.

[Evia]

Your mistake is assuming that the intent of the server is to "survive" or "adapt and change with the times". That's not the intent of this server at all. The intent is quite literally to just portray the classic era through Velious. For instance, Nilbog has never cared if 10 player play P99 or 1,000...he cares about making a museum as close to classic as he can.

[Evia]

Its not just about you

I'd suggest taking your own advice on this one

[cotterpin]

The intent is quite literally to just portray the classic era through Velious.

If that's the intent of the server then it has failed. Horribly. P99 is nothing more than another custom server existing in a sea of other custom servers.

[Duik]

If that's the intent of the server then it has failed. Horribly. P99 is nothing more than another custom server existing in a sea of other custom servers.

Yet here you are. Placing suggestion boxes in a place nobody asked for one.

[Trexller]

yeah honestly folks

what do these pro-luclin dipshits expect to achieve here?

They think Nilbog is sitting at his PC watching the forums for the fever pitch of luclin desire then he's just gonna hit a toggle switch and spawn pussy beastlords?

these people are simply helpless

there are dozens of other servers with luclin content but in their feeble minds, IT HAS TO BE ON P99 OR ELSE

[cotterpin]

yeah honestly folks

what do these pro-luclin dipshits expect to achieve here?

They think Nilbog is sitting at his PC watching the forums for the fever pitch of luclin desire then he's just gonna hit a toggle switch and spawn pussy beastlords?

these people are simply helpless

there are dozens of other servers with luclin content but in their feeble minds, IT HAS TO BE ON P99 OR ELSE

Or maybe we're just shit posting like everyone else and getting off on how very easily we can rustle your jimmies.

[Duik]

Example Shit post: Waa waa waa, we want Luclin on a server explicitly slated to only ever release upto Velious.

Non Shit post: Stop crying you whiney babies and play elsewhere or enjoy the free to play emulated version of a game released 25 years ago. The chap who enables us to play here has set aside many hours of his time to relive his dream (as he sees it). Also shared it with the community.

You see the difference here dont you?

If not, see below.
Go research ALL the potential lootdrops that happened/changed when Luclin released. AC att MR pet damage character and mob model changes.
Make sure you get it correct or whiney babies will fill your forum with whiney baby noises.

[cd288]

If that's the intent of the server then it has failed. Horribly. P99 is nothing more than another custom server existing in a sea of other custom servers.

I don't really think so. There's definitely some non-classic stuff on here but I think the vast majority of it is do to players using it as exploits or ways to cheese through raiding encounters etc. so it had to be changed (which, funnily enough, is an approach devs took in classic as well - so technically it's keeping in the spirit of old school EQ).

[magnetaress]

to much shit is unclassic here,

channeling
charm
stamina
resists

custom edits to appease raiders
rooted dragons
bowquest

Pras nilbog for the work he dun, the community needs more ppl like him but this other stuff would need be fixed before I came back here for life

[magnetaress]

to much shit is unclassic here,

channeling
charm
stamina
resists

custom edits to appease raiders
rooted dragons
bowquest

Pras nilbog for the work he dun, the community needs more ppl like him but this other stuff would need be fixed before I came back here for life

And potentially a new pvp server, that starts in luclin without progression

legacy items are permanently in but all no drop and not tradeable and in their nerfed states

[Castle2.0]

Or maybe we're just shit posting like everyone else and getting off on how very easily we can rustle your jimmies.

Join the club, cotterpin ;)

[magnetaress]

Join the club, cotterpin ;)

Cotterpin is the one u don't got on ignore? LOL

[Toxigen]

i'ii give you 0% chance for luclin and 90% coming across as entitled man-baby.

https://i.imgur.com/FFUEePt.jpeg

[magnetaress]

Jesus dude. No one wants to see that shit.

[Toxigen]

Are you saying my identity as a man-baby is bad, you bigot?

[magnetaress]

Yes. Jesus.

[Toxigen]

So what about my comrades who dress up in fur suits? Whats the difference?

[Duik]

Lolocaust im on Burntout lightstones ignore list.

Panties pulled waaaay to tight. Classic Duik.

[magnetaress]

I'm offended and grossed out that is all I wish you to know.

What you and your friends do with that information from here on out is upto you.

[magnetaress]

Lolocaust im on Burntout lightstones ignore list.

Panties pulled waaaay to tight. Classic Duik.

I think everyone is. The man plays on both p99 and quarm like it's a full time job and is terrified of anything that may devalue his fake pixel empires.

Full on total delusion so he projects and goes after anyone with an ounce of independence and originality from his warped fantasy about manastones and gnoll scrolls.

[Trexller]

Are you saying my identity as a man-baby is bad, you bigot?

yep. oh yeah. 100% discriminating here. we're celebrating bigotry up in this bitch.

man-babies aren't full humans and don't deserve human rights, we're gonna need to tattoo them with serial numbers, bar codes and QR codes for our advertising partners.

after a full census is taken, and we've convinced family members to rat on each other, then we're going to need to place all the man-babies together in 1 area for re-education and/or "cleansing"

"concentration playpens" if you will

at which point the man-babies will receive rigorous instruction in what The State expects of it's men. They will be trained in combat, carpentry, auto mechanics, how to properly consume whiskey and beat their wives. (wives will be provided from the "Karen Camps")

Furries will be treated similarly, although we believe they may require additional rendition.

The party has not reached a consensus on these matters, I can see all forms of cosplayers quickly becoming untermenschen.

This sort of expression is wildly inconsistent with the ideals, morals and social cohesion required by the Democratic People's Nazi-Marxist Republic of Stfuistan

[Pulgasari]

Probably spreading that is the opposite of what you want.

[magnetaress]

Probably spreading that is the opposite of what you want.

[Duik]

Looks like Trex trying to assume his final forum form, much like Unsung did.

[khysanth]

Unhinged gonna unhinge.

Also - that screenshot with all the banned posters might be the most beta thing I have ever seen.

[magnetaress]

Wonder why they are feelin so uppity today?

[cotterpin]

There's definitely some non-classic stuff on here...

LOL, some, LOLOLOLOL.

but I think the vast majority of it is do to players using it as exploits or ways to cheese through raiding encounters etc. so it had to be changed

Welcome to Everquest. Players cheesing their way through content is classic as fuck. Trying to play whack a mole with all the different ways players come up with to play the game is a recipe for failure as we've already clearly seen.

The server would be a much better place if Nilbog would focus on making an accurate sandbox and let the players play the game.

[magnetaress]

fragglerock was a gr8 shoe ngl my peepz

[Trexller]

Welcome to Everquest. Players cheesing their way through content is classic as fuck. Trying to play whack a mole with all the different ways players come up with to play the game is a recipe for failure as we've already clearly seen.

The server would be a much better place if Nilbog would focus on making an accurate sandbox and let the players play the game.

There wouldn't be a server if P99 was a copy/paste of the day the last velious patch hit.

it would be like ~30 sweaty neckbeards exploiting the fuck out of everything for 16 hours a day.

that's it. it's just the status quo of P99 you know of, x100

these people would create a prohibitive experience to anyone less than a hardcore gamer.

live never had to deal with half of these problems that P99 does, more often than not new content was around the corner and players were off on the new thing. Yeah there were problems, and live had a paid staff who would deal with it.

the reason we can't click midnight mallets or quad-nuke rods anymore isn't that Nilbog makes aribtrary changes.

It's you. You're the reason.

[Toxigen]

bring back no CSR VP

[cd288]

LOL, some, LOLOLOLOL.



Welcome to Everquest. Players cheesing their way through content is classic as fuck. Trying to play whack a mole with all the different ways players come up with to play the game is a recipe for failure as we've already clearly seen.

The server would be a much better place if Nilbog would focus on making an accurate sandbox and let the players play the game.

Sounds like someone just likes EZ mode EQ and doesn't like things that make the game harder for them. Guess we should call the waaambulance

[Ciderpress]

This server is so UNCLASSIC. Why? Because it's not a fully-functioning time machine set to the year 1999. Not only that, they sometimes, like, make changes in response to emergent behavior that didn't exist, or existed very minimally, in 1999.

I mean can you BELIEVE gall of this team of jerks?

[cotterpin]

Sounds like someone just likes EZ mode EQ and doesn't like things that make the game harder for them. Guess we should call the waaambulance

Wait I thought we were supposed to want one to one classic. Isn't that what the server was founded on? Exact classic? So you don't want to play the game as it was exactly in the classic era? You do realize things get easier as you play them more and spend more time understanding the game. We've experienced 25 years of this game and the knowledge to go with it. As much as all the devs and classic apologists would like you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. It's impossible to give people a "classic experience" after 25 years.

[Ciderpress]

Wait I thought we were supposed to want one to one classic. Isn't that what the server was founded on? Exact classic? So you don't want to play the game as it was exactly in the classic era? You do realize things get easier as you play them more and spend more time understanding the game. We've experienced 25 years of this game and the knowledge to go with it. As much as all the devs and classic apologists would like you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. It's impossible to give people a "classic experience" after 25 years.

Yet you call the server "another custom server in a sea of custom servers", as if you don't understand they're clearly trying to make it as classic as they can. It's not like it's some kinda spawn your own gear and go jerk off with a party of mercs in ldon zones type server or something. It's pretty damn close to what most people remember, roughly, from that period in the game's history. Not to mention there are genuine new players who find the server sometimes and probably wouldn't wanna play if the pop was only the size of one guild, which is what would happen without any dev intervention ever. I think they struck about the best balance you can.

[cotterpin]

It's pretty damn close to what most people remember, roughly, from that period in the game's history.

No. It's an attempt to force one dev's "vision" and if they don't like a thing, regardless if people were doing that thing in era or not, fuck off, kick rocks, out it goes. People had wildly unique experiences across different servers in classic. Just start a conversation in any of the guild discords about peoples experience in classic and it's easy to see. Trying to force one person's "vision" of classic as the experience that everyone is required to have is beyond stupid.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Non-Classic_Compendium

[booter]

make your own server if you want to be in charge of the "vision"

[cd288]

No. It's an attempt to force one dev's "vision" and if they don't like a thing, regardless if people were doing that thing in era or not, fuck off, kick rocks, out it goes. People had wildly unique experiences across different servers in classic. Just start a conversation in any of the guild discords about peoples experience in classic and it's easy to see. Trying to force one person's "vision" of classic as the experience that everyone is required to have is beyond stupid.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Non-Classic_Compendium

1. You are wayyyy to upset about not being able to cheese your way through things on an emulated server for a 25 year old MMO.

2. No one is "required" to have the experience that you have here. This isn't the only EQ emulator out there. There are plenty of others. Nor do you have to pay money to play this one or any of the others. If you don't like someone's "vision" who runs a specific server, then don't play on that server. You can go play on another one where you won't be getting your panties in a twist so much! Good news!

[Trexller]

make your own server if you want to be in charge of the "vision"

[Duik]

No. It's an attempt to force one dev's "vision" and if they don't like a thing, regardless if people were doing that thing in era or not, fuck off, kick rocks, out it goes. People had wildly unique experiences across different servers in classic. Just start a conversation in any of the guild discords about peoples experience in classic and it's easy to see. Trying to force one person's "vision" of classic as the experience that everyone is required to have is beyond stupid.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Non-Classic_Compendium

They made me do it.
They make me play. I
t's like a conspiracy.
Like I mean some dude makes a sandbox, invites anyone to play in it with him and (all I have to do is) play nice, accept some arbitrary decisions based on the devs abilities (that he donates), technical limitations, legal limitations and the fact it is not a time machine and a big part of the game is never coming back. Wonder. Discovery.

Whiney poopsocking cheaty crybabies are gonna (knowingly or unknowingly) push the boundries with known and newly discovered exploits.

A cat shits in your kids fancy clamshell sandpit you clean that up right? Maybe put a cover on it? Now it doesnt look like a clamshell any longer and the 3yr old complains. Daddy comes out, pulls that plywood cover off and the smiles return.

In this scenario, you could be the 3yr old or continue to be the whiney crybaby. Or drop a cat shit in that pit and get a (non standard) lid put on it.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

make your own server if you want to be in charge of the "vision"

Can't you mine some kind of crypto currency, and they built a game around it and so you use kids? Fisher Price did something like this in Belgium. They used it in their pre-school system and it pays for the teachers' salaries.

Back when we were kids we would hang a little play toy over my baby brother's crib and get him to play with it. This would turn a small magneto that then rocked the crib gently.

But then mom and dad would get drunk and fight :(

[Ciderpress]

I mean seriously what other vanilla-velious emu is there? I'm sure there's some box with like 20 people on it who use some weird way newer client. PQ has pre-kunark fungis and it goes way past luclin so that doesn't count either. If anyone has a better p99 model let's see it

[Pulgasari]

I mean seriously what other vanilla-velious emu is there? I'm sure there's some box with like 20 people on it who use some weird way newer client. PQ has pre-kunark fungis and it goes way past luclin so that doesn't count either. If anyone has a better p99 model let's see it

I like to choose the dog in Monopoly.

Comrade Teddy would not approve, of course.

[Pulgasari]

make your own server if you want to be in charge of the "vision"

Does the popularity of one service ever serve to strangle any competition in the cradle?

I feel like this is something I forgot from decades ago.


🧙💤

[Wakanda]

I used to think this was a good idea and then I actually experienced Luclin on Mischief TLP for the first time in years and realized how... it basically fundamentally kills 95% of the game. It didn't feel this way back in the day. I didn't even start getting my Velious gear from NToV until well AFTER Luclin came out... this was somewhat normal on my server. Luclin and most expansions just felt like extra content when they were originally released. Now that players know how to digest the same content super quickly, Luclin feels like it just fundamentally alters EQ in a bad way.

[Trexller]

https://www.giantbomb.com/a/uploads/original/0/1992/965953-race_ogre_luclin.jpg

[Jimjam]

No. It's an attempt to force one dev's "vision" and if they don't like a thing, regardless if people were doing that thing in era or not, fuck off, kick rocks, out it goes. People had wildly unique experiences across different servers in classic. Just start a conversation in any of the guild discords about peoples experience in classic and it's easy to see. Trying to force one person's "vision" of classic as the experience that everyone is required to have is beyond stupid.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Non-Classic_Compendium

Vision^TM is classic. Before it was Brad. He’s gone. We have a new person now. Nethertheless top down enforcement of vision is classic and persists. Praz Brad. Praz Nibgean.

[Jimjam]

Does the popularity of one service ever serve to strangle any competition in the cradle?

I feel like this is something I forgot from decades ago.


🧙💤

Didn’t stop Quarm. Nor the many servers which have sprung up and been popular with the pvp community.

As long as you have a good vision, communicate it well, and people have like 85% trust you can pull it off for more than a couple months you can succeed.

Good luck!!

[magnetaress]

Quarm has manarocks and pinkicite. Thats a good enough reason for me :p

[Pulgasari]

Didn’t stop Quarm. Nor the many servers which have sprung up and been popular with the pvp community.

As long as you have a good vision, communicate it well, and people have like 85% trust you can pull it off for more than a couple months you can succeed.

Good luck!!

Is that a legit server?

[spoil]

I can't believe Quarm isn't going to be shut down. Like at least half the players there would migrate to the new TLP if it got the axe. Direct competitor to live progression servers, nothing like p99.

[Pulgasari]

I can't believe Quarm isn't going to be shut down. Like at least half the players there would migrate to the new TLP if it got the axe. Direct competitor to live progression servers, nothing like p99.

Aw fudge. And she just secured the sinecure.

[bhughes]

I'm surprised no one mentioned p2002 aka wayfarer's haven. Those guys went from PoP to several expansions later in a couple years. Yes, it's a 3 box server, so grab a copy of it, if Trust would let you, and make a single box only version. I haven't played on it in a couple years but the GMs were fun, participated, and enforced their rules. I did encounter pathing issues in Unrest, no surprise there LOL.

[Ciderpress]

No. It's an attempt to force one dev's "vision" and if they don't like a thing, regardless if people were doing that thing in era or not, fuck off, kick rocks, out it goes. People had wildly unique experiences across different servers in classic. Just start a conversation in any of the guild discords about peoples experience in classic and it's easy to see. Trying to force one person's "vision" of classic as the experience that everyone is required to have is beyond stupid.


Yes, you kinda answered your own grievance here. In classic, when there were like 25 servers that all had populations over 1500, there were many emergent ways that different people played the game, resulting in legitimately different cultures on each server. Here, the scope is much much smaller than that, so how exactly should they "emulate" the things *you* remember that nobody else does? Or remembers differently?

They could tune the server exactly to *your* liking and there'd still be a million dickheads saying it's all wrong. See the issue?

[Swish]

I'm surprised no one mentioned p2002 aka wayfarer's haven

It was a poor TAKP clone with a low pop at the time it was first promoted here. Did they ever find a dev that could do everything? If that wasnt bad enough it housed an old ex-staff member from here who got removed, got mad (is still mad about it in the Quarm discord), and doxxed some of the P99 staff and players.

2/3/4/more boxing is the feature to keep a lot of classic EQ enjoyers away.

[Jimjam]

2/3/4/more boxing is the feature to keep a lot of classic EQ enjoyers away.

I bet those boxers get some pretty serious RPing and socialisation done if only we could see what was said in /g, and that is what eq is really about.

[Mugi]

Sorry for this man, but...

Luclin models are the worst thing ever made if we are talking aesthetics.

No one needed the yassified player models we got there.

I am game for all revamps, as long as we keep the old models.

[magnetaress]

Sorry for this man, but...

Luclin models are the worst thing ever made if we are talking aesthetics.

No one needed the yassified player models we got there.

I am game for all revamps, as long as we keep the old models.

why do you care if someone else uses a different model then u? you won't even see it

[cd288]

Sorry for this man, but...

Luclin models are the worst thing ever made if we are talking aesthetics.

No one needed the yassified player models we got there.

I am game for all revamps, as long as we keep the old models.

I don't mind a couple of their models but yeah some of them are just terrible

[WarpathEQ]

Sorry for this man, but...

Luclin models are the worst thing ever made if we are talking aesthetics.

No one needed the yassified player models we got there.

I am game for all revamps, as long as we keep the old models.

I remember being excited about them in real time when they were dropped back then because it was cutting edge graphics but I agree that the original models held up better over the test of time.

[enjchanter]

I bet those boxers get some pretty serious RPing and socialisation done if only we could see what was said in /g, and that is what eq is really about.

talking to other players is highly overrated imo

[magnetaress]

^ an NPC

[busted]

I support the release of Luclin.

Just disable the bazaar merchants and the nexus portal npcs and you will retain the communal aspect of the server.

[Duik]

I support the release of Luclin.

Just disable the bazaar merchants and the nexus portal npcs and you will retain the communal aspect of the server.

Quaarm. Takp. Live TLP's, make ya own server .

Take ya pick.
Dont fuck it for everyone else. Or wish for SOMETHINGTHAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN here.
Sorry, but you needed to hear it.

[Duik]

Quarm disappeared from eqemulator server lists.
Comments?

[Duik]

Damn it.

[magnetaress]

Damn it.

is it back? it reboots in the morning on wed most times

[Duik]

I must have just caught it when it was rebooting.

[magnetaress]

Just whatever u do don't break any rule 5's or 5.1's or 5.2s or 5.anythings over there never discuss anything political at all or post anything political and if someone else does just back away slowly don't respond don't try to calm the situation down. Or advocate for some reason. Or try to be nice. Or share ur point of view.

[Jimjam]

Just whatever u do don't break any rule 5's or 5.1's or 5.2s or 5.anythings over there never discuss anything political at all or post anything political and if someone else does just back away slowly don't respond don't try to calm the situation down. Or advocate for some reason. Or try to be nice. Or share ur point of view.

Don't abbreviate Bone Bladed Claymore in a thread about getting a Bone Bladed Claymore.

[Neno]

Don't abbreviate Bone Bladed Claymore in a thread about getting a Bone Bladed Claymore.

I gave my BBC to some twink last night.

[Jimjam]

I gave my BBC to some twink last night.

That is very kind of you! They'll be a really powerful twink with your BBC to back them up!

[busted]

Quaarm. Takp. Live TLP's, make ya own server .

Take ya pick.
Dont fuck it for everyone else. Or wish for SOMETHINGTHAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN here.
Sorry, but you needed to hear it.

Which beastlord hurt you?

Luclin was great and AAs are awesome. Get with the program buckaroonie

[Duik]

I disnt say i didnt like Luclin. I just like a seperation of concerns.
Classic is classic, Luclin is not.

MNK/SHM hybrid with mage powered proccing pets. How non unbalancing.

[cotterpin]

I disnt say i didnt like Luclin. I just like a seperation of concerns.
Classic is classic, Luclin is not.

MNK/SHM hybrid with mage powered proccing pets. How non unbalancing.

Ahh yes because EQ classes are so balanced. Thankfully Rog/Bog don't really care about what is or isn't classic.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Non-Classic_Compendium

[Duik]

Stranger on the interwebs: Hey dudes, i got a great old-fashioned sandpit, ive made a few changes cause its mine and i wanted too. I like what I have made but I needed to make some technical and social concessions. Come and join me.
All my mom said is ya cant shit in it. Have fun!

Another stranger on the interwebs: You are doing this all wrong. Change stuff because I like different stuff, and you will become even morw popular an relevant!

1st guy: Nope.

[magnetaress]

Honestly I think i'mma give Agnarr another go. Daybreak deserves some luv.

[Secrets]

make your own server if you want to be in charge of the "vision"

ok, what now?

[Secrets]

Honestly I think i'mma give Agnarr another go. Daybreak deserves some luv.

Darkpaw's team deserves all the love they can get. They're fantastic.
Definitely try the 25th TLP out. I'll be playing on it.

[Insomnia]

Honestly I think i'mma give Agnarr another go. Daybreak deserves some luv.

Agnarr was my dream server, but everyone says its dead in the water population-wise. I dont know exact numbers but some people guessed only around 300 active people and the low-mid level game is dead so youll be soloing to 60

[magnetaress]

Honestly love all of the QoL and don't mind soloing. So I'll probably focus there until Tormax for an alt. Then alternate between the two.

Quarm is great. Amazing community. Don't have the time to grind skills and find groups anyway. I play for nostalgia. And one day I want to do some expansions past GoD.

[Detoxx]

Make P99 Classic instead of Luclin.

[Ekco]

Make P99 Classic instead of Luclin.

he is risen...

you should make another guild.

[Mugi]

I started playing this game late and was caught between the latest months of Velious before Luclin, so things went from bad to very easy in some ways, because I could evolve my character faster, even without gear, through AAs.

I didn't hate Luclin too much, because it opened up a lot of opportunities, but it also had some real issues for me, such as:

1) New player models looked so terrible, I considered quitting until I found out you could toggle them off.

2) The theme jumping into a blend of sci-fi and fantasy was not ideal. There was more lore to be explored in Norrath. There was no need to move to the moon yet. The themes didn't transition well because of that.

3) New class, new race and so on, while most classes needed to be tweaked before introducing the spaghetti linguini that was beastlord.

Why have a cat brace btw? Was it not enough to have lizards? I guess they went from exotic pet to a normal pet theme here. Not a playable race still.

4) The Bazaar and Spires were good QOL tools. It could be implemented in the existing world just by waving some technicalities and introducing some more evolved humans who can teleport and buy/sell fast through a network.

In the end, Luclin tried to introduce some much needed things, such as AAs, Bazaar and Spires, but made everyone look ugly and created a new race that was not needed, while also introducing a new class when there were many classes that needed to be fixed.

It was a way to keep people subbed, but hell, not the best way to do it.

[magnetaress]

no one remembers the whole new in game language and all the cool lore from luclin tho

also the short lil pigmies are fun as fuck to kill

[Pulgasari]

no one remembers the whole new in game language and all the cool lore from luclin tho

also the short lil pigmies are fun as fuck to kill

Tekar Ans Sivuelaeus! (https://www.graffes.com/forums/showthread.php?27005-Akhevan-its-a-language)

[magnetaress]

Luclin only server when plz

[Wakanda]

I started playing this game late and was caught between the latest months of Velious before Luclin, so things went from bad to very easy in some ways, because I could evolve my character faster, even without gear, through AAs.

I didn't hate Luclin too much, because it opened up a lot of opportunities, but it also had some real issues for me, such as:

1) New player models looked so terrible, I considered quitting until I found out you could toggle them off.

2) The theme jumping into a blend of sci-fi and fantasy was not ideal. There was more lore to be explored in Norrath. There was no need to move to the moon yet. The themes didn't transition well because of that.

3) New class, new race and so on, while most classes needed to be tweaked before introducing the spaghetti linguini that was beastlord.

Why have a cat brace btw? Was it not enough to have lizards? I guess they went from exotic pet to a normal pet theme here. Not a playable race still.

4) The Bazaar and Spires were good QOL tools. It could be implemented in the existing world just by waving some technicalities and introducing some more evolved humans who can teleport and buy/sell fast through a network.

In the end, Luclin tried to introduce some much needed things, such as AAs, Bazaar and Spires, but made everyone look ugly and created a new race that was not needed, while also introducing a new class when there were many classes that needed to be fixed.

It was a way to keep people subbed, but hell, not the best way to do it.
I feel like people didn't really digest content that fast. I remember questioning why I even bought Velious because for the first year or so it was out, I never even went there :eek: I don't think I started getting Skyshrine gear until a few months AFTER Luclin launched :p I don't think the average player was raiding in Luclin zones when it launched, but I could be wrong or misremembering things.

Also a developer said in an interview that the reason they made Luclin a space expansion is because SOE was also developing Star Wars Galaxies at the time and was inspired by that, but also because the same devs were working on SWG, Luclin ended up being a more low quality expansion in terms of actual content.

I remember when the new models came out, I actually had to upgrade my graphics card. I think I got a Geforce 2 but it's kind of hazy now.