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zelld52
02-13-2024, 10:44 AM
First toon was Ogre Shaman. If I was double shrunk, with my back into a corner: my spells never got interrupted. (Unless mob bashed and it interrupted)

They ninja patched channeling shortly after Velious release on Green - and WOW it sucks now. Double shrunk Ogre Shaman, back in corner -- regular hits interrupt me pretty frequently. With 200 channeling.

Levelling a new necro, and MY GOD it's frustrating being interrupted so frequently, even with around 150 channeling. I get it on bashes, and stuns from regular hits - but why are my spells getting interrupted when I'm not being bashed, stunned, or pushed?

Was this intentional to make the game more classic like? Was it because race/class combo like Ogre Shaman were too OP? Anyone else notice this?

Make Channeling Great Again

cd288
02-13-2024, 11:14 AM
Not really sure what you're referring to, channeling feels the same on P99 as it did years ago

Smoofers
02-13-2024, 12:12 PM
Casters are OP in classic, this is how they balanced it. U mad?

zelld52
02-13-2024, 01:53 PM
Not really sure what you're referring to, channeling feels the same on P99 as it did years ago

Shortly after Velious release on green there were changes to channeling. Fizzle chance went up, and spells got interrupted more often.

cd288
02-13-2024, 01:58 PM
Sorry didn't mean not sure what you were referring to with the Velious change. I meant I hadn't really experienced a hugely significant difference in channeling while being whacked. From what I've experienced it's just a bit more frequent on the interrupt. I did notice fizzles increasing a decent amount with lower skills though.

wuanahto
02-13-2024, 01:59 PM
my anecdotes say otherwise you lying motherfucker

Naethyn
02-13-2024, 03:43 PM
Dex increases your chance to continue casting.

magnetaress
02-13-2024, 04:48 PM
Sounds like OP doesn't have a clue about what they are doing or talking about.

And yeah go max dex if u wanna channel through 15 goblins hitting u for 1 - 40 dogs. With double attacks and bashes too.

Duik
02-13-2024, 04:53 PM
Chanelling should only go up while casting and being hit by xp mobs.

Ciderpress
02-13-2024, 09:38 PM
Most people say channeling is OP here in my experience. Careful what you wish for! To me it seems pretty much how I remember it tbh.

Your gate collapsing when you cast gate does seem way more frequent than I remember though. I think it happened to me maybe four times total from 99-2001, and here it's about 1 per day.

magnetaress
02-14-2024, 07:45 AM
Most people say channeling is OP here in my experience. Careful what you wish for! To me it seems pretty much how I remember it tbh.

Your gate collapsing when you cast gate does seem way more frequent than I remember though. I think it happened to me maybe four times total from 99-2001, and here it's about 1 per day.

That is because u should be using insta gate pots aka cloudy pots or lizard bloods

Toxigen
02-14-2024, 10:16 AM
they broke op

zelld52
02-14-2024, 09:08 PM
I posted here well-knowing it was RnF, but I underestimated the absolute retardation of the RnF forums.

I wonder how many of you are Language Model bots who are in training

magnetaress
02-15-2024, 12:55 AM
Can't wait until classic channeling and resists.

quido
02-15-2024, 08:47 AM
In addition to the channeling check based on distance, isn't there like a 5% chance per melee hit landed against you, up to a certain cap, to interrupt your cast? Or was this removed as they refined the channeling implementation?

cd288
02-15-2024, 11:32 AM
Was the channeling implemented on Blue as well? I've been playing more on Blue than Green these past few months so maybe that's why I haven't noticed it as much.

mycoolrausch
02-15-2024, 12:31 PM
On Quarm your only hope of channeling is to have max defense. And there the skillups happen paradoxically to all RPG leveling systems in history, with the earliest levels being the hardest and slowest to raise, so if you forget to max your skills at low levels you'll never max them at high level and have permanently ruined your character.

Hopefully all those channeling and skillup formulas come to P99 because replicating universally terrible design choices from 20 years ago is what gets me out of bed in the morning.

cd288
02-15-2024, 01:25 PM
On Quarm your only hope of channeling is to have max defense. And there the skillups happen paradoxically to all RPG leveling systems in history, with the earliest levels being the hardest and slowest to raise, so if you forget to max your skills at low levels you'll never max them at high level and have permanently ruined your character.

Hopefully all those channeling and skillup formulas come to P99 because replicating universally terrible design choices from 20 years ago is what gets me out of bed in the morning.

I don't think that was a terrible design choice from 20 years ago was it? I don't think that's how it worked on live?

Seems like a terrible thing Quarm implemented not something from classic

Toxigen
02-15-2024, 01:59 PM
I don't think that was a terrible design choice from 20 years ago was it? I don't think that's how it worked on live?

Seems like a terrible thing Quarm implemented not something from classic

Secrets did a lot of dumb shit with Quarm.

Typical.

WarpathEQ
02-15-2024, 03:05 PM
It actually makes a lot of sense and works that way on P99 and classic as well. You only achieve skill ups through successful displays of skill.

Sense heading is an easy example, it takes forever to level up the first few skill points because you rarely are successful in determining what direction you are facing. The skill ups happen quicker as you start being more successful and then reach a tipping point where the amount of success needed to progress becomes very high.

It mirrors the real world. If you try to learn a new skill that you have no basis in you don't know what you don't know at that point and therefore it takes more time and energy to advance in that skill. As you gain some basic understanding of the skill you can start to assess what you do and don't know and therefore better understand how to progress.

Its more like a bell curve:
No Skill - No understanding of progression, slow pace
Some Skill - Some understanding and ability to find gains, medium pace
Advanced Skill - High success rate, still room to improve, fast pace
Master Skill - Hard to identify and find incremental gains as you have mostly mastered all aspects, slow pace

cd288
02-15-2024, 05:49 PM
It actually makes a lot of sense and works that way on P99 and classic as well. You only achieve skill ups through successful displays of skill.

Sense heading is an easy example, it takes forever to level up the first few skill points because you rarely are successful in determining what direction you are facing. The skill ups happen quicker as you start being more successful and then reach a tipping point where the amount of success needed to progress becomes very high.

It mirrors the real world. If you try to learn a new skill that you have no basis in you don't know what you don't know at that point and therefore it takes more time and energy to advance in that skill. As you gain some basic understanding of the skill you can start to assess what you do and don't know and therefore better understand how to progress.

Its more like a bell curve:
No Skill - No understanding of progression, slow pace
Some Skill - Some understanding and ability to find gains, medium pace
Advanced Skill - High success rate, still room to improve, fast pace
Master Skill - Hard to identify and find incremental gains as you have mostly mastered all aspects, slow pace

Seems like that's not the way it works on Quarm though. Seems like there's some additional roll in the earlier levels to see if you skill up even if you successfully display use of skill. That doesn't exist on P99.

magnetaress
02-16-2024, 08:49 AM
I don't think that was a terrible design choice from 20 years ago was it? I don't think that's how it worked on live?

Seems like a terrible thing Quarm implemented not something from classic

It is classic GFU.

magnetaress
02-16-2024, 08:50 AM
GFY. Rly.

P99 ain't where it comes to channeling.

Lewkeng
02-24-2024, 05:10 AM
cant rly compare it to a ogre who doesnt get stunned from the front of course the necros gonna get interrupted more.

but i agree still sucks

azxten
03-09-2024, 10:46 PM
There is no chance P99 fixed channeling to be classic. Quarm has actual classic channeling code. Cry more that you're playing on a custom server and you're upset the easy mode isn't easy enough.

See here:

https://project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=395675

cd288
03-11-2024, 11:15 AM
There is no chance P99 fixed channeling to be classic. Quarm has actual classic channeling code. Cry more that you're playing on a custom server and you're upset the easy mode isn't easy enough.

See here:

https://project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=395675

Oh hey it's this overly immersed loser again

magnetaress
03-11-2024, 01:21 PM
There is no chance P99 fixed channeling to be classic. Quarm has actual classic channeling code. Cry more that you're playing on a custom server and you're upset the easy mode isn't easy enough.

See here:

https://project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=395675

Yep

Duik
03-11-2024, 04:54 PM
Quarm needs a forum so they can post there instead of shitting up this one.
Some play both.
Some play red (lol).
Some play neither.
P99 mods dont wanna be childminding other peoples kids (they barely care for their own children).

Trexller
03-11-2024, 06:43 PM
Quarm posters are swiftly given the boot on takp forums

But Secrets is afraid to face the public

Thats why there aren't any quarm forums

He is afraid of real truth

magnetaress
03-11-2024, 06:45 PM
True that Quarm needs a forumquest.

Discord just doesn't cut it. There's probably a Quarm reddit tho lol.

magnetaress
03-11-2024, 06:45 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/ProjectQuarm/s/IjtNYwyOea

magnetaress
03-11-2024, 06:48 PM
Also, dwarves vs elves when?

Pulgasari
03-11-2024, 08:50 PM
Quarm posters are swiftly given the boot on takp forums

But Secrets is afraid to face the public

Thats why there aren't any quarm forums

He is afraid of real truth

Discord is pretty active I think they have *better mod tools there than on vbulletin.

*better is subjective

Trexller
03-11-2024, 10:45 PM
Discord is pretty active I think they have *better mod tools there than on vbulletin.

*better is subjective

Yeah im really just tryin to get secrets to keep shit posting

magnetaress
03-12-2024, 04:16 AM
Discord is pretty active I think they have *better mod tools there than on vbulletin.

*better is subjective

The mods need to specifically enable threaded discussion and they don't do it for anything butt bug and dev channels usually. I can't even have a threaded discussion in the class channels and you cannot sort by # of replies and stuff like on here.

Also discord itself moderates bigly it's all of it's own grps and forums. So no free speech because a server op is beholden to the main rules. It's a terrible platform for political discussion. Like reddit is.

We are moving towards state approved political discussion bulletin points. Even though it's corporate doing it. The problem is when everyone everywhere does it because they got the FBI and other three letters breathing down their necks because they support Isreal instead of terrorists.

magnetaress
03-12-2024, 05:06 AM
Did flame lick and immolate ever get fixed btw?

Dolalin
03-12-2024, 07:01 AM
Channeling on p99 is overpowered at low levels.

TAKP has it better. It will get merged into P99 someday I imagine.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3217222&postcount=18

Ciderpress
03-12-2024, 12:17 PM
Did flame lick and immolate ever get fixed btw?

Yes they did!

azxten
03-15-2024, 09:45 PM
Oh hey it's this overly immersed loser again

You get so mad whenever I point out P99 is a custom easy mode server.

Also, dwarves vs elves when?

I'm sorry, I have too much of a life now to even contemplate running an elf simulator.

Someday in the future if I'm manically depressed and on the verge of suicide thus trying to escape reality, I might play EQ again and work on dwarves vs elves.

Life has never been better at the moment. EQ is a distant memory. Even if they finally fixed channeling I wouldn't be back. I never even played quarm. It's over for me. I beat EQ.

azxten
03-15-2024, 09:47 PM
Oh hey it's this overly immersed loser again

Also, you still have about 6x as many posts as me in 1/3 the amount of time.

You can beat EQ too friend. I believe in you. We can all beat EQ together. Join my group I have room for one and a friend.

Duik
03-15-2024, 10:24 PM
Azxten and cd288 just need to screw. Not for cd288, just azxten. sHe seems lonely.

Ciderpress
03-16-2024, 07:01 PM
There is no chance P99 fixed channeling to be classic. Quarm has actual classic channeling code. Cry more that you're playing on a custom server and you're upset the easy mode isn't easy enough.

Fungi tunics in classic is totally correct and not custom in any way.

Wait no, I was reliably informed that was just a bad call and nothing stupid and bad like that will ever happen again.

spoil
03-16-2024, 08:13 PM
At least classic fungis aren't as bad as manarock and pinkicite.

I'm not even a classic purist but Secrets really went wild. I thought it was going to be at least in same ballpark as p99, but with enforced rotations and some basic QoL.

cd288
03-18-2024, 01:13 PM
Life has never been better at the moment. EQ is a distant memory. Even if they finally fixed channeling I wouldn't be back. I never even played quarm. It's over for me. I beat EQ.

Such a great busy life yet has time to come here and bitch and moan about channeling like they always have

mycoolrausch
03-18-2024, 11:38 PM
all the crying for hard mode eq is pissing in the wind when you consider twinked velious era monks were walking gods and no amount of nerfs will make that not true, and nerfing casters will just create more of them

ya.dingus
03-19-2024, 01:18 AM
Also, you still have about 6x as many posts as me in 1/3 the amount of time.

You can beat EQ too friend. I believe in you. We can all beat EQ together. Join my group I have room for one and a friend.

Yeah cd288 is a mouthbreathing fanboi who just wants to have his easy legacy items flood blue and condemn everyone to the beta bucks server experience.

The guy is the epitome is a deluded fanboi, uninterested in the health of the server or the community, and only interested in improving his experience no matter how selfish or short lived it is.

Dude is boomer status. There's not a pair of glasses lenses thick enough to fix that dude's nearsightedness.

Trexller
03-19-2024, 01:57 AM
There's not a pair of glasses lenses thick enough to fix that dude's nearsightedness.

https://www.verywellhealth.com/thmb/KcJEN3ZqibjuSrdMjZfwWhR1-CE=/1500x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/how-to-treat-a-burn-1298802-01-ef3683609e664a3ea3c46d6a619ac2f0.png

magnetaress
03-19-2024, 11:20 AM
Exp is slower on quarm too lol.

cd288
03-19-2024, 05:45 PM
Yeah cd288 is a mouthbreathing fanboi who just wants to have his easy legacy items flood blue and condemn everyone to the beta bucks server experience.

The guy is the epitome is a deluded fanboi, uninterested in the health of the server or the community, and only interested in improving his experience no matter how selfish or short lived it is.

Dude is boomer status. There's not a pair of glasses lenses thick enough to fix that dude's nearsightedness.

I'm really confused how any of that is relevant. Like most of your vitriolic posts, it seems to generally be inapplicable spewing of random sentences strung together without thought.

I also don't have legacy items and, in fact, I play mostly on Blue so if I did have legacy items a merge wouldn't be very good for me now would it? I like the idea of a merge so that we can all play together socially on P99 instead of having two servers that seem barely alive outside of high end raiding.

magnetaress
03-19-2024, 07:21 PM
"clutches legacy items"

azxten
03-19-2024, 08:39 PM
I'm really confused how any of that is relevant. Like most of your vitriolic posts, it seems to generally be inapplicable spewing of random sentences strung together without thought.

I also don't have legacy items and, in fact, I play mostly on Blue so if I did have legacy items a merge wouldn't be very good for me now would it? I like the idea of a merge so that we can all play together socially on P99 instead of having two servers that seem barely alive outside of high end raiding.

We're all outside enjoying life. Join us.

I'm sure Bill Gates will have another pandemic ready soon enough and we can all escape back to our elf simulator but until then it's spring. It's SPRING. It was a beautiful day today everywhere in the world.

Trexller
03-19-2024, 09:59 PM
I'm sure Bill Gates will have another pandemic ready soon enough

let 'em fuckin try

they overplayed their hand last time, only hypochondriacs are gonna believe the fear-porn

it's gonna take 3-4 generations before they can pull that shit again

we aren't gonna take it

Ciderpress
03-20-2024, 07:39 PM
The only cool legacy item is a guise because they're actually exclusive one-time-only deals that make you look like the best looking race in the game no matter what terrible class you chose to play (plus a free junk buff, ultravision and a usable faction mod)

Nobody is really gonna envy your sweaty four-day manastone because if they just save enough plat they can buy it.