View Full Version : Getting to PoM as a druid
Sonolin
12-04-2023, 01:20 PM
I've read that certain classes with DA can make it there solo, but how would I reach this place as a Druid without the money/means to get an earring of the frozen skull?
Is buying a CotH here reasonable? I'm struggling to figure out the logistics of this, and since it seems dangerous for the mage this could be pretty expensive. I'm fine saving up to pay somebody to CotH me though if that is a service people offer.
Alternatively I guess I can follow behind a raid on NtoV but that seems unlikely.
Just planning ahead since I kind of want to try the rat maze as an alternative to bear pits, and it also looks like a fun farming spot.
Toxigen
12-04-2023, 01:56 PM
Yeah you typically pay for a coth. Its easy w/ a DA idol from tips hallway. I know people do it w/o DA but just go farm an idol and its zero risk.
https://wiki.project1999.com/Shiny_Brass_Idol
PatChapp
12-04-2023, 03:07 PM
Yeah If your guild has a mage at trips, bug someone to coth you.
Don't move until the mage logs out,run down the ramp about half way and click da idol. Turn right,run to little house and click on it
Alternatively if you have a 60 bard friend they can go with you and use their da song. If you go this route,make sure you click first. If they do,your da will drop and you'll die.
Sonolin
12-04-2023, 04:17 PM
Yeah you typically pay for a coth. Its easy w/ a DA idol from tips hallway. I know people do it w/o DA but just go farm an idol and its zero risk.
https://wiki.project1999.com/Shiny_Brass_Idol
From the guides I've read you need more than one charge though. Is this not true?
Sonolin
12-04-2023, 04:24 PM
Yeah If your guild has a mage at trips, bug someone to coth you.
Don't move until the mage logs out,run down the ramp about half way and click da idol. Turn right,run to little house and click on it
Alternatively if you have a 60 bard friend they can go with you and use their da song. If you go this route,make sure you click first. If they do,your da will drop and you'll die.
Thanks good tip. Didn't know bard had group DA song!
PatChapp
12-04-2023, 06:44 PM
Just 1 da from the trips ramp
Sonolin
12-04-2023, 07:39 PM
I see, I think I understand the run from trips now. Over by Cekenar and other dragons I think.
Toxigen
12-04-2023, 07:51 PM
I see, I think I understand the run from trips now. Over by Cekenar and other dragons I think.
yep. its a safe coth spot
just inch down the ramp a bit, pop da, run down to the right, click to pom
ez pz (just make sure the mage logs out first before you move)
oh and dont just run out to the middle you'll aggro the trash before trips room...stay on the coth wall til you hit the ramp
Vivitron
12-04-2023, 11:25 PM
Thanks good tip. Didn't know bard had group DA song!
Bard da only lasts two ticks, other das last three. SoW before you enter tov anyway but with bard method it's critical. I think the piece about the bard clicking through last is not accurate.
You can also have a cleric or necro train ahead of you with their cast da and click in after you to save yourself an idol.
In the context of buying yourself a coth the idol makes sense but the other options are nice in the context of a couple people using their guild's trips bot to both get to pom.
PatChapp
12-05-2023, 08:30 AM
Bard da only lasts two ticks, other das last three. SoW before you enter tov anyway but with bard method it's critical. I think the piece about the bard clicking through last is not accurate.
You can also have a cleric or necro train ahead of you with their cast da and click in after you to save yourself an idol.
In the context of buying yourself a coth the idol makes sense but the other options are nice in the context of a couple people using their guild's trips bot to both get to pom.
Bard da song drops if they zone before you, I died doing this the first time we tried it
The timer is shorter but you can make it easily with a sow for sure.
Toxigen
12-05-2023, 09:38 AM
In the context of buying yourself a coth the idol makes sense but the other options are nice in the context of a couple people using their guild's trips bot to both get to pom.
just assumed since hes asking here he doesnt have the guild to help him
7thGate
12-05-2023, 11:00 AM
Bard da only lasts two ticks, other das last three. SoW before you enter tov anyway but with bard method it's critical. I think the piece about the bard clicking through last is not accurate.
You can also have a cleric or necro train ahead of you with their cast da and click in after you to save yourself an idol.
In the context of buying yourself a coth the idol makes sense but the other options are nice in the context of a couple people using their guild's trips bot to both get to pom.
Bard DA lasts 3 ticks. I've used it to split Trips before and have done a lot of analysis on the video of the splits for what went right/wrong, and it always lasts between 12 and 18 seconds depending on server tick timing relative to when the song lands.
WarpathEQ
12-05-2023, 12:50 PM
If it wasn't clear you need both a CoTH and a DA. Get CoTHed to trips and make the run to PoM using the DA to survive.
And yes bard DA along with 99% of bard songs last 3 ticks. Pro Tip try and get as far as you can before using DA to give maximum time buts its not a far run, agree with other's suggestions that getting a sow before zoning into ToV is good idea just to make it easier and less likely hood of a timing issue.
Alternatively to get there without a DA, and potentially without a CoTH your best window is when Vulak is open for engage as guilds will be training around all the mobs in your way from trips and sometimes all the way from the entrance (or atleast the NToV door if you're factioned). Just be warned if you screw something up you will have a lot of people be maximum angry at you as vulak is the most cried over mob in the game if things go sideways.
Vivitron
12-05-2023, 01:50 PM
Bard DA lasts 3 ticks. I've used it to split Trips before and have done a lot of analysis on the video of the splits for what went right/wrong, and it always lasts between 12 and 18 seconds depending on server tick timing relative to when the song lands.
That's two ticks. Everybody else is out there enjoying luxury 18-24 second das.
7thGate
12-05-2023, 03:09 PM
That's two ticks. Everybody else is out there enjoying luxury 18-24 second das.
Fascinating, I had assumed that tick count decrements each server tick, and that meant you got one short tick out of every duration. That, and everything I've seen listed Bard songs as 3 ticks and also DA/Harmshield as 3 ticks.
You're right though, my first DA on my cleric was 23 seconds. I need to go double check if Dictate lasts 48-54 seconds or 42-48 like I thought.
PatChapp
12-05-2023, 04:45 PM
Dictate is 48-54 my timer often runs out before the spell
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