can we make jboots not MQable

[GoodOlEQ]

I think we all would be better off if the jboots quest was changed so it only required the ring from the ancient cyclops and thus could not be multiquested. This ring is now exclusively farmed by people who just want to sell the MQ and nobody who is actually trying to do the quest can anymore.

[wuanahto]

and then people will camp it and that person will have a ring loot rights list and then you will ask to not do that then someone else will loophole and before you know it everyone gets free jboots on login and then you will complain about that and boom runspeed 3 or 5 for everyone as an aa then you will complain there is no reason to camp the ac and then you will make your own everquest server with "project" in the name and get bored after a few months as you ban everyone who looks at you wrong and you are as empty as a reddit server then you will complain that we are nothing but sheep who play here and your place is better and then you will begrungeningly come back here

so lets just skip a few steps

[magnetaress]

Play a druid

[mycoolrausch]

The perma farmers have optimized it to a science, tanking the price down. Their effort is your gain. Make a new char, spend only 5k plat to get jboots on a level 1 character in less than 15 minutes. You randomly scrounged up 5k plat over the course of your adventures as a side effect of playing the game, so zero effort, you spent 15 minutes buying it on a level 1 so 0.1% effort. They farm it every hour of every day. For you. And you aren't even grateful.

[cd288]

I think we all would be better off if the jboots quest was changed so it only required the ring from the ancient cyclops and thus could not be multiquested. This ring is now exclusively farmed by people who just want to sell the MQ and nobody who is actually trying to do the quest can anymore.

I pretty regularly am able to find the OOT AC camp open. Sure sometimes it's taken by MQ farmers, but not always.

[magnetaress]

That this is still a major problem on either blue or green p99 is a major sign of the times too lawl

[magnetaress]

That this is still a major problem on either blue or green p99 is a major sign of the times too lawl

(for some people, it's not my problem because i don't play here on p99 anymore)

[Ooloo]

Lol wtf is this logic? Would you prefer if it were instead camped 24\7 by people doing the quest? I think you're just mad you have to compete\wait for the camp like everyone else.

File under "the game is broken cause I didn't get a thing"

[magnetaress]

I honestly can't be bothered to personally camp jboots anymore so...

[Toxigen]

theres always sow pots

[Pint]

Only took over a decade for the farmers to take this poor guys camp, throw him a bone

[unsunghero]

5k pp ain’t bad. I am one of the worst pp farmers for the level I’m at, and even I could make that in a few weeks of playing

It’s nice to have the option. I wish more stuff was MQ’able, but most I couldn’t afford anywho

[GoodOlEQ]

Asking to be able to do a quest isn't complaining. Imagine if you couldn't do your epic quest because people were farming it for MQ and you had to pay whatever they wanted. It exploitation plain and simple. Also, jboots MQ has always been 5k as long as I can remember so don't give me that free market will drive the price down crap.

[Ooloo]

Asking to be able to do a quest isn't complaining. Imagine if you couldn't do your epic quest because people were farming it for MQ and you had to pay whatever they wanted. It exploitation plain and simple. Also, jboots MQ has always been 5k as long as I can remember so don't give me that free market will drive the price down crap.

That comparison is ridiculous the OOT AC camp is frequently just outright open, or maybe 2-3 people deep. Just go camp it ffs. You dorks are catastrophizing the situation as usual, it's fine.

[aussenseiter]

Imagine if you couldn't do your epic quest because people were farming it for MQ and you had to pay whatever they wanted.

Haha

[GoodOlEQ]

That comparison is ridiculous the OOT AC camp is frequently just outright open, or maybe 2-3 people deep. Just go camp it ffs. You dorks are catastrophizing the situation as usual, it's fine.

Maybe on blue it is. On green it is a 24+ hour wait that no normal person can do.

[Ooloo]

Maybe on blue it is. On green it is a 24+ hour wait that no normal person can do.

Lol no it's not. I play on green. I have passed by it omw to seafuries twice within the last month and it was totally uncamped. I've camped it myself for two alts and I had to wait for 2-3 other people both times, took about 7 hours between two attempts. Totally normal part of the game.

People camping the ring to sell MQ's would just be people camping it themselves because MQ's aren't available. You'd still have to wait in line for essentially the same timeframe. It's a nonsense complaint.

[magnetaress]

Ac roams around red for days uncontested.

[PatChapp]

Maybe on blue it is. On green it is a 24+ hour wait that no normal person can do.

Yeah no, maybe at peak times but if you log on a bit early it's often open or 1 person.
Sometimes the ac does everyone a favour and spawns multiple times an hour

[magnetaress]

Asking to be able to do a quest isn't complaining. Imagine if you couldn't do your epic quest because people were farming it for MQ and you had to pay whatever they wanted. It exploitation plain and simple. Also, jboots MQ has always been 5k as long as I can remember so don't give me that free market will drive the price down crap.

U mean like earth staff :p

[Jimjam]

I do feel the game would be improved with the removal of MQs and paying for loot rights. The first is easy to implement, the second not so much.

Besides, the project seeks to emulate, not improve on, the mechanics of Everquest as they were y2k.

[magnetaress]

If earth staff wasn't mq able it would rott super often. And there'd be way fewer epics.


That said all epics shouldn't be MQ able. And epic drops should be 1000000 times more rare in order for the proper levels of classic emulation and immersion.

[Duckwalk]

This entire complaint is a straw man. If someone if the person camping it has corpsed rings and someone shows up who doesn’t, the former is required to give up the camp.

[Jimjam]

Chipped bone wand

[Snaggles]

Not doing the quest is the best part of the quest. Avoiding OOT for 3k is a bargain.

[Arvan]

Pay scraps to have some chum farm a dumb cyclops for me? Please shutup and take my money!

[Naethyn]

I refused to buy this mq when I started the game. It took a long time and some rules lawyering but I eventually got it. If you sit there and police it you will eventually win.

[enjchanter]

i hope OP doesnt need roll on Tstaffs in KC because the monk "needs" it

[bhughes]

I thought I saw 2000 plat for quested jboots on green today

[Toxigen]

its far easier to farm the plat and buy the mq

hope this helps

[cd288]

It's true. Even if they enforced it not being an MQ you will spend more time camping it than you would just farming up a few thousand plat to buy it. Shit, you can make 4-5k plat in one day of serious porting if you have a DAP.

People also forget that if you made this not MQable, it's not like the camp is just going to be magically available to you at all times. Instead of the usual farmers, it will just be super long lists of people camping for their alts. it will still be just as difficult to get the camp.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

It's true. Even if they enforced it not being an MQ you will spend more time camping it than you would just farming up a few thousand plat to buy it. Shit, you can make 4-5k plat in one day of serious porting if you have a DAP.

People also forget that if you made this not MQable, it's not like the camp is just going to be magically available to you at all times. Instead of the usual farmers, it will just be super long lists of people camping for their alts. it will still be just as difficult to get the camp.

Agreed. Being able to MQ JBoots is very nice. A lot of people don't have the option to camp their character in a 15 person line. It's just not viable. I happened to get a Stormfeather spawn once because everybody in line was AFK, and a quake happened. But you can't really plan for that as a normal case if you want to skip the line.

The problem with the JBoots quest is it's just too bottlenecked. If the quest had you camp a few different items across the world that had equal drop rates, then individual camps could potentially become less crowded. They aren't going to do that though since this server doesn't do custom content like that.

[Ooloo]

The problem with the JBoots quest is it's just too bottlenecked.

You say this but I swear it has taken me longer to get the stupid shadowed rapier to drop than the damn AC ring multiple times in my many years of farming the quest.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

You say this but I swear it has taken me longer to get the stupid shadowed rapier to drop than the damn AC ring multiple times in my many years of farming the quest.

Lol I have had some long wait times on rapiers myself. Luckily Shadowmen aren't normally camped due to them being undercons. With the help of a druid or wizard you can just jump around to all the different camps and kill them while waiting for respawns in another zone. That usually speeds up the process.

[Zendir]

Asking to be able to do a quest isn't complaining. Imagine if you couldn't do your epic quest because people were farming it for MQ and you had to pay whatever they wanted. It exploitation plain and simple. Also, jboots MQ has always been 5k as long as I can remember so don't give me that free market will drive the price down crap.

Maybe you should make a change.org petition to get Rog to change a 24 year old pixel quest

[xlimits]

I think we all would be better off if the jboots quest was changed so it only required the ring from the ancient cyclops and thus could not be multiquested. This ring is now exclusively farmed by people who just want to sell the MQ and nobody who is actually trying to do the quest can anymore.

Which outcome do you think would be best?

[cd288]

Asking to be able to do a quest isn't complaining. Imagine if you couldn't do your epic quest because people were farming it for MQ and you had to pay whatever they wanted. It exploitation plain and simple. Also, jboots MQ has always been 5k as long as I can remember so don't give me that free market will drive the price down crap.

Who's gonna give him the bad news about some epics...

[Ennewi]

Also, jboots MQ has always been 5k as long as I can remember so don't give me that free market will drive the price down crap.

The price has dropped considerably over the years. It used to fetch almost double the current amount, back when the ac/ph spawn was at the bottom of the dune across from de merchants.


https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138247

Old 02-05-2014, 10:00 AM
Auctionhouse Auctionhouse is offline
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Default Jboots MQ
WTS Jboots MQ this afternoon. Taking offers or sold immediately at 10k.


https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203811

Old 07-27-2015, 07:27 AM
Kit Su Kit Su is offline
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Default Jboots MQ 8k
Selling Jboots MQ 8k (includes gold, rapier, and ports)

Ingame name is Getsaround, feel free to msg me in game or PM me.

Thanks

[cd288]

The other thing on the "always 5k" comment, is that's what these people try to ask for. It doesn't mean you have to pay that. The last two sets of JBoots I purchased were I think like 4k and then maybe 4.3k? Don't just accept the 5k, try to negotiate it down. Most sellers will take less, especially on something like J Boots where so many alts already have them.

[Worry]

I think it's absolutely lame that Epics are routinely sold off instead of the character actually experiencing the questline itself - but JBoots at 4k is way more convenient than actually camping AC and Rapier. Coming from someone who has farmed it for himself and farmed the plat for the MQ.

[cd288]

I think it's absolutely lame that Epics are routinely sold off instead of the character actually experiencing the questline itself - but JBoots at 4k is way more convenient than actually camping AC and Rapier. Coming from someone who has farmed it for himself and farmed the plat for the MQ.

Generally agree with you on that, but in this case I think it's kind of necessary for some epics. Because some require drops from highly contested raid mobs that the top 1 or 2 guild(s) always kill, you may not actually have the option to experience the full quest line yourself if you don't have the time to raid all the time and accumulate a bunch of DKP to spend on the drop.

back in the day this wasn't as much of an issue because expansions progressed and so smaller guilds could backfill and get their epics when like SoL came out for example. But on a time locked server it's simply a fact of life.

[Toxigen]

WTS warrior epic full mq

[Meneldor]

WTS warrior epic full mq

*Performs secret handshake*

So we have a deal?

[Raavak]

The other thing on the "always 5k" comment, is that's what these people try to ask for. It doesn't mean you have to pay that. The last two sets of JBoots I purchased were I think like 4k and then maybe 4.3k? Don't just accept the 5k, try to negotiate it down. Most sellers will take less, especially on something like J Boots where so many alts already have them.

Some farmers are indeed monopolizing it in an attempt to manipulate the price and keep it high. Those aren't the people selling it for less than 5k, but if you're patient you can get it for a bargain and closer to what the equilibrium price should be.

[magnetaress]

Just got my first pair of jboots on quarm. Was great fun.

[Jimjam]

Just got my first pair of jboots on quarm. Was great fun.

Woo! Grats twinkletoes!

[ragontx]

Make Plat no drop lol thats it
End of farming .

[ragontx]

No drop, non transfer lol

[xlimits]

I think we all would be better off if the jboots quest was changed so it only required the ring from the ancient cyclops and thus could not be multiquested. This ring is now exclusively farmed by people who just want to sell the MQ and nobody who is actually trying to do the quest can anymore.

The ac should drop the boots

[Mleh]

The ac should drop the boots

actually not a bad take - can still give to alts just can't pre-farm.

[sajbert]

It hurts new players but these players are pretty far and few between these days at the level range where they can kill AC and not with relative ease be able to fork out 5k for a MQ.

It’s therefore largely a non-issue I feel. It also doesn’t male much sense to prohibit ring MQ but allow other MQs and if we are to ban MQs for this reason, what’s so different about someone farming fungi king for plat? Should we make funic tunic no-drop too?

[Zendir]

So you dont want classic, you want custom?

[Trelaboon]

I think we all would be better off if the jboots quest was changed so it only required the ring from the ancient cyclops and thus could not be multiquested. This ring is now exclusively farmed by people who just want to sell the MQ and nobody who is actually trying to do the quest can anymore.

I’d rather pay some neckbeard farmer 5k for a pair of boots than farm them myself, so no thanks.

[cd288]

It hurts new players but these players are pretty far and few between these days at the level range where they can kill AC and not with relative ease be able to fork out 5k for a MQ.

It’s therefore largely a non-issue I feel. It also doesn’t male much sense to prohibit ring MQ but allow other MQs and if we are to ban MQs for this reason, what’s so different about someone farming fungi king for plat? Should we make funic tunic no-drop too?

I still don't see the problem. On both servers it's fairly easy to get in line and get the camp in OOT. It's really not insanely overcamped at all.

The only annoying one is the Ro spawn if you're competing with farmers, but that's arguably even more fair since anyone can get FTE on it.

[TheIrateTurk]

Just go to OOT on a double loot day and it doubles your chances of getting it. That's how I got mine.

And 5K is not a lot of plat.

[TheIrateTurk]

Oh, should also add, I am a cleric which is not a great class at camping highly contested mobs, or getting the first hit in etc. so I just got beaten by another class, but because two dropped I asked if I could loot after him and he said sure thing.