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Gugg
09-26-2023, 02:16 AM
Why do they suck so hard?

The 49 fire pet has a 43 DS, the 52 fire pet has a 2 DS. Absurd. Isn't the idea to get stronger instead of weaker?

The 51+ pets (even the epic pet) don't scale well with mob health and damage output.

Why do I need to kill a raid mob, or pay 750,000PP, to increase the power of my 51+ pet ever so slightly?

Meanwhile, Enchanters pets are equipped with all sorts of cool things and hit for hundreds as they group solo raid mobs with charmed pets.

Having to chain cast pets is stupid.

Mages don't get any mana regen either. Enchanters, Druids and Necromancers can regenerate mana while walking around. Shaman can generate mana on the fly. I've got a +2 HP regen spell that costs a billion Cat's Eye to cast.

There's hardly any summoned mobs, they are mostly undead.

Who thought it was a good idea to make Gift of Xev summon all that stuff when all I want is the bag?

Why are DS and Burnout spells on such short timers?

Don't get me started on the pet EXP penalty; it's like giving a Monk a 50% XP penalty if he's not grouped. The pet XP penalty doesn't affect Enchanters because they charm and then go invis and kill both mobs. Necro doesn't need a pet neither does Shaman. A Mage is toast without his pet.

Why don't mages get an illusion spell?

Why do summoned Mage weapons suck so much?

When I go invis my pet dies....when I zone my pet dies...WTF?

The constant casting to get max level pet too...OMG.

Bristlebane's Bundle? Really? Yeah, that's gonna be useful. Meanwhile necro has FD and snare/fear, shaman has slow and Torpor. Enchanters have pretty much everything. What do I get? I get fireworks, +2 HP regen and a pet with a 2 point DS and Level 12 Wizard spells.

Thanks for nothing.

Stick that earth staff where the sun don't shine.

:mad:

Swish
09-26-2023, 04:35 AM
https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/40025140?v=4

baakss
09-26-2023, 06:48 AM
It’s mildly unpleasant when your mod rod vending machine starts complaining.

Rager and Quitter
09-26-2023, 09:06 AM
Well, mage is quite possibly the most boring class in EQ. Wizard is probably pretty close, but big ass nukes bring it just above mage.

Toxigen
09-26-2023, 09:10 AM
get back into your coth spot ya dumb bot

Gugg
09-26-2023, 10:05 AM
The 51 Earth pet sucks too.

The 49 pet is focused, the 51 pet isn't; the 51 earth pet is smaller and has less HP than the previous earth pet.

The 52 fire pet isn't even worth buying. Why create something that's not worth buying?? Good logic there.

What about casts times???

Shamans get a clicky nuke bracer with a cast time of 8 seconds at L45, Mages gets a 2HS staff with no stats that has a cast time of 13.5 seconds at L46....13.5 seconds is absurd.

Gugg
09-26-2023, 10:22 AM
get back into your coth spot ya dumb bot

I don't raid, raiding is stupid.

Gozuk
09-26-2023, 12:03 PM
I have a 41 Mage that I sorta enjoy. I don't take him too serious but it's a fun character in a duo/trio..

Is the focused 49 Earth pet really better than the 51? 49 may be my new end goal if so.

Thanks

Arvan
09-26-2023, 12:15 PM
sorry you picked bad class

cd288
09-26-2023, 12:54 PM
I don't raid, raiding is stupid.

Why on earth would you play a mage then

Kohedron
09-26-2023, 04:14 PM
sounds like a lot of not classic shit, stfu and get over it.

Gugg
09-26-2023, 04:38 PM
Why on earth would you play a mage then

Mages don't have to raid, no classes have to raid. It's not mandatory einstein. Raiding is overrated actually, it receives a disproportionate amount of attention in the same way spectator sports do. It's also illogical to raid at 60 on P99, there's no point to it.

You could say that by not raiding there's things I'll never have but that problem already exists in the form of pre-nerf loot.

Gugg
09-26-2023, 04:39 PM
sounds like a lot of not classic shit, stfu and get over it.

/list isn't classic. Did you get a mana stone using /list ?

Gugg
09-26-2023, 05:13 PM
I've seen a lot of players with mana stones, which they all got using /list.

/list being a custom non-classic game mechanic.

How much cash have those players made using a custom non-classic game mechanic?

I saw one for sale the other day for 600K.

Classic my arse.

branamil
09-26-2023, 08:32 PM
Hm, a game "designed" 20 years ago had flaws? Shocked. It's almost as if there's a reason the game isn't popular outside of maybe two-hundred diabetic underemployed men in their 40s.

Gugg
09-26-2023, 10:03 PM
Hm, a game "designed" 20 years ago had flaws? Shocked. It's almost as if there's a reason the game isn't popular outside of maybe two-hundred diabetic underemployed men in their 40s.

It's all fixable.

Gugg
09-27-2023, 01:10 AM
Hm, a game "designed" 20 years ago had flaws? Shocked. It's almost as if there's a reason the game isn't popular outside of maybe two-hundred diabetic underemployed men in their 40s.

A bad idea is a bad idea forever.

Even if you think evolution is real, humans haven't evolved from creating bad design to good design in 20 years. 20 years is nothing in evolutionary terms.

If you lived 100 years ago it would be a bad idea never mind 20 years ago.

It looks like it was done on purpose.

But like I said, it's all fixable.

magnetaress
09-27-2023, 01:12 AM
I always wanted to play mage 50+ without epic.

Sad I will probably not get the opportunity.

Gugg
09-27-2023, 01:15 AM
I always wanted to play mage 50+ without epic.

Sad I will probably not get the opportunity.

The Mage epic is nothing compared to charmed pets.

You can't even retrieve items from an epic Mage pet.

This server seems to be very Enchanter friendly.

magnetaress
09-27-2023, 01:17 AM
Live server mages (try oakwynd) pets zone and keep items like enchanter pets.

magnetaress
09-27-2023, 01:19 AM
Otherwise just role-playing is the reason for being a mage on p99. That and it's actually a chill experience with minimal plat invested only on spells.

U don't need the Ferrari to play EQ the beat up old 1981 BMW with stock tires will still give u a solid 35mpg

magnetaress
09-27-2023, 01:20 AM
Otherwise just role-playing is the reason for being a mage on p99. That and it's actually a chill experience with minimal plat invested only on spells.

U don't need the Ferrari to play EQ the beat up old 1981 BMW with stock tires will still give u a solid 35mpg

On the interstate at 60 mph anyways

Duik
09-27-2023, 01:50 AM
It's all fixable.

Opensourced emu + takp db = your version of fixable.
Have at it good sir.

Gugg
09-27-2023, 08:45 AM
Opensourced emu + takp db = your version of fixable.
Have at it good sir.

I don't have programming skills, a server or Veran'ts blessing.

The game code is not open source either, it's a reverse engineered commercial product.

Gugg
09-27-2023, 09:12 AM
Opensourced emu + takp db = your version of fixable.
Have at it good sir.

Any more suggestions from that amazing brain of yours...let me guess...

I should go to university to "learn" software engineering. I should win the lottery to rent a server and pay for bandwidth (or beg for money). I should hire lawyers so Verant doesn't sue me or shut down my server.

I should also spend $5 on a football, then I can create my own NFL League and play in it as the star player.

:rolleyes:

Gugg
09-27-2023, 09:39 AM
Regarding Mages...

No heal spell past L20????????

Duik
09-27-2023, 10:04 AM
Any more suggestions from that amazing brain of yours...let me guess...

I should go to university to "learn" software engineering. I should win the lottery to rent a server and pay for bandwidth (or beg for money). I should hire lawyers so Verant doesn't sue me or shut down my server.

I should also spend $5 on a football, then I can create my own NFL League and play in it as the star player.

:rolleyes:

Lolocaust. You sir have no feet. You defeat yourself beforw even the fight begins. University would certainly help to learn "programming" but self taught skills can take you a hell of a way.

Verant do not care about your eq server.

NFL is for girls who shy from actual body contact sports.

Begging for money simply works.
P99 supply a service that some are happy to donate to.
Veutube/instasham/snapcrap influencers are always on the beg for comments, likes and subscribes.
Billionaires also beg for money. Works on all levels.

Next?

Also, play a mage or not. Nobody (who counts) cares about your impotent ranting.

Gugg
09-27-2023, 11:53 AM
Lolocaust. You sir have no feet. You defeat yourself beforw even the fight begins. University would certainly help to learn "programming" but self taught skills can take you a hell of a way.

Verant do not care about your eq server.

NFL is for girls who shy from actual body contact sports.

Begging for money simply works.
P99 supply a service that some are happy to donate to.
Veutube/instasham/snapcrap influencers are always on the beg for comments, likes and subscribes.
Billionaires also beg for money. Works on all levels.

Next?

Also, play a mage or not. Nobody (who counts) cares about your impotent ranting.

You death cultists are all over the place; one minute everything is down to chance and luck.......hence the seatbelts, fire extuinguishers, CO2 detectors, guns and unarmed combat training.....to reduce the risk of danger....

...the next minute, anything is possible for anybody ie. anybody can learn to design and programme their own succesful MMO and become undisputed heavyweight champion boxer.

Talk about having it both ways.

:rolleyes:

magnetaress
09-27-2023, 12:01 PM
I'm confused. Is gugg making the argument they are too disabled to play a solo self found mage on p99?

Gugg
09-27-2023, 12:17 PM
I'm confused. Is gugg making the argument they are too disabled to play a solo self found mage on p99?

Enroll in a course at DUIK University then you won't be so confused about everything because he has the answer to everything apparently.

Duik
09-27-2023, 05:41 PM
D.U.I.K Don't Under-utilize Inherant Knowledge.

Gugg just wants a mage that is easy to play.
Has summonable ft items.
PetHeals like a Beastlord or POP era Mage.
He needs a root.
More summoned pve opponents.
Sorta like an OOTB emu install with zero changes...

Also while the emu software is reverse engineered.
The word is that the initial creator asked Verant for a job, they said nope. He asked if he could take a look under EQ's bonnet. The creators being conceited and thinking he'd have no chance of working it out said sure bud, knock yaself out. Effectively, he had written permission to pull that shit apart. Or so the story goes. Ever wondered why it has not been squashed?

Food for thought Mr I want what I want but dont wanna have to do anything to get it..

It is Millions of lines of emulated, cobbled together code sorta organiclly created over years of painstaking experimentation. Who knows, the work old mate did to rip apart EQ proved he had programming chops and he did secure gainful employment as a game programmer.

Anywho Gugg, maintain the rage and complain some more so I can show the kids how even adults can have tantrums and give up.

Gugg
09-27-2023, 07:34 PM
Also while the emu software is reverse engineered.
The word is that the initial creator asked Verant for a job, they said nope. He asked if he could take a look under EQ's bonnet. The creators being conceited and thinking he'd have no chance of working it out said sure bud, knock yaself out. Effectively, he had written permission to pull that shit apart. Or so the story goes. Ever wondered why it has not been squashed?



Cool story bro, did you read that on reddit? It sounds like a reddit story.

Or was it Buzzfeed?

Duik
09-27-2023, 07:46 PM
You could umm look for yourself. Or stay ill informed. You can even choose! I care not either way.
Cool stories exist. Ya just gots to look forem. Winky face emoticon.

Oh I forgot. Info self found is of zero worth.

"Gugg with all his no-bull qualities, with sympathy which feels for the most debased, with benevolence which extends not only to other races but to the humblest Mage, with his god-like intellect—… still bears in his bodily frame the indelible stamp of his rantly origin.”

Rant on ranter.

Gugg
09-27-2023, 07:52 PM
You could umm look for yourself. Or stay ill informed. You can even choose! I care not either way.
Cool stories exist. Ya just gots to look forem. Winky face emoticon.



Was it TMZ?

Duik
09-27-2023, 07:56 PM
Was it TMZ?

If TMZ stands for Truthful Media Zone, then yes.
Also, what's a TMZ.

Gugg
09-27-2023, 08:14 PM
If TMZ stands for Truthful Media Zone, then yes.
Also, what's a TMZ.

TMZ is a web site with far fetched stories (similar to reddit and wikipedia).

I was just wondering if you got your stories from those web sites.

Duik
09-27-2023, 09:01 PM
TMZ is a web site with far fetched stories (similar to reddit and wikipedia).

I was just wondering if you got your stories from those web sites.

So like bible websites and Aesops tales type sites? Norse mythology? Got it.
Also getting info from just the one or a few sources is stupid. Even I know that. Im hoping you do as well.
Knowledge is a journey, especially computer related but also in general. The sooner you take your first steps, the better it will be for us all.
Rants will become murmurs, murmurs become musings.
Eventually you will begin asking questions to which you will be happy to try to answer yourself.
Let your journey begin!

Gugg
09-27-2023, 11:01 PM
So like bible websites and Aesops tales type sites? Norse mythology? Got it.
Also getting info from just the one or a few sources is stupid. Even I know that. Im hoping you do as well.
Knowledge is a journey, especially computer related but also in general. The sooner you take your first steps, the better it will be for us all.
Rants will become murmurs, murmurs become musings.
Eventually you will begin asking questions to which you will be happy to try to answer yourself.
Let your journey begin!

Got anything practical, something with utility value to share?

How about a device which allows me to order my favourite food instantly anywhere in the world without me needing a physical address....so I don't have to and earn shitty bitcoins or US$ and go to the supermarket?

And a device which allows me to design my own car and run it so I don't have to rely Ford and Exxon?

Got anything like that to give out?

Duik
09-27-2023, 11:40 PM
How do you imagine mr ford created his car? Wright brothers? Daimler, Tesla and Bell. They learnt stuff, experimented then imagined an outcome. You too can do this. There is no magic bullet, pill or shortcuts. Go find out what it takes to convert chemical energy into motive force.
Find out if people will deliver food to your door if you dont give them something in return.
See if you can get money from someone for doing nothing in return.

If ya dont wanna do any of that...
Start a cult.
Tell people YOU are the only one that can do X for them.
And you need money.
And you need to have sex with their wives and teenage daughters.
There, that'll do for a start.

Gugg
09-27-2023, 11:51 PM
How do you imagine mr ford created his car? Wright brothers? Daimler, Tesla and Bell. They learnt stuff, experimented then imagined an outcome. You too can do this. There is no magic bullet, pill or shortcuts. Go find out what it takes to convert chemical energy into motive force.
Find out if people will deliver food to your door if you dont give them something in return.
See if you can get money from someone for doing nothing in return.

If ya dont wanna do any of that...
Start a cult.
Tell people YOU are the only one that can do X for them.
And you need money.
And you need to have sex with their wives and teenage daughters.
There, that'll do for a start.

I'll take that as a no the, so back to just talking.

Who created advanced technology like the sun?
Was it Henry Ford experimenting that resulted in the sun existing?
'Cause I tell you what, if it was then he needs to make a public transportation system; it would always be on time and completely free.

Gugg
09-28-2023, 12:05 AM
BTW, you seem to be an informed fellow, DUIK, so what's the deal with pop stars going on about dancing and in particular dancing in the rain?

Is Meghan Trainor really dancing in the rain or is "rain" symbolic for failure or something like that?

Gugg
09-28-2023, 12:06 AM
Can we get mage pets to do a little twirl after they kill a mob?

Duik
09-28-2023, 03:25 AM
Ms Trainor was telling me just the other day that if she was a Mage she'd wanna be a Necro too.

Gugg
09-28-2023, 06:53 AM
Ms Trainor was telling me just the other day that if she was a Mage she'd wanna be a Necro too.

She would support whoever wins the World Cup. Brazil most likely. Glory hunter. Goal hanger type.

Duik
09-28-2023, 09:29 AM
Such a young mind, poisoned by fear uncertainty and doubt.
Put the phone down.
Turn off the computer.
Turn cable news off.
Keep the gay midget porn if you must, but please let go of the hate.
It is you that you hate. You hate that you just cant cut it as an elf mage. Release the hate. Mayhap Candy Crush is more your speed?

magnetaress
09-28-2023, 09:57 AM
Praising Duik for how long Gugg has remained stimulated on this topic.

Good job!