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Gloomlord
08-03-2023, 04:43 AM
I am a Halfling Rogue of Bristlebane, and using the mask still makes me con Scowls to all the Iksar factions.

Is this supposed to be happening?

Jimjam
08-03-2023, 05:03 AM
They don’t like rogues nor bristlebane.

Kavious
08-03-2023, 07:45 AM
Masks/illusions just adjust your racial faction. You can still be kos for other reasons

Old_PVP
08-03-2023, 07:53 AM
Iksars are a hateful lot. At one point my character was friendly with guards and still KOS to shamans / sks.

Gloomlord
08-03-2023, 07:55 AM
They don’t like rogues nor bristlebane.

Less than agnostic? I see.

DeathsSilkyMist
08-03-2023, 09:57 AM
Yeah illusions only give you a faction adjustment, lets say +500 (This is just a guess). As mentioned above, religion is a factor when determining starting faction. If Iksars dislike Bristlebane, you may have a -300 (Also just a guess) from that. In this scenario, the mask would only be giving you a net +200. That isn't bad, but https://wiki.project1999.com/Faction scowling has 1000 points within it. I am not sure how close Bristlebane Rogues are to the bottom of scowling by default.

I am assuming you haven't been lowering your Iksar factions in some manner, so that probably isn't an additional factor.

Ooloo
08-03-2023, 02:33 PM
Yeah this is why encs always roll agnostic

Gloomlord
08-03-2023, 07:27 PM
Never knew picking Bristlebane would blow up in my face, considering he counts as a neutral god.

Jimjam
08-03-2023, 11:26 PM
Yes, but Iksar aren’t neutral. They are very xenophobic. All religions but CT are -1000*. I bet the original devs would have put agnostic as -1000 if they could have!

*actually varies between the different factions in cabilis, e.g the guards are pretty tolerant of Innoruuk at -50 compared to the merchants -1000.

It seems certain guilds are a bit less scathing of VS’s dip into inny.

jolanar
08-06-2023, 01:33 PM
As an agnostic rogue I have no issues in Cabilis with the Iksar mask.

Swish
08-06-2023, 07:16 PM
bone chip quest in Field of Bone, it'll fix it <3

Gloomlord
08-06-2023, 08:53 PM
As an agnostic rogue I have no issues in Cabilis with the Iksar mask.

In hindsight, it was foolish of me to go Bristlebane. The cultural armour is worthless, and now I con scowls even with the mask.

PatChapp
08-06-2023, 09:01 PM
In hindsight, it was foolish of me to go Bristlebane. The cultural armour is worthless, and now I con scowls even with the mask.

What do you want to get into cabilis for?

Gloomlord
08-06-2023, 10:40 PM
What do you want to get into cabilis for?

Well, I realised if I'm very cautious, I can still sell and bank at Cabilis using sneak. It was just for taking a pitstop.

Anyway, I have an agnostic Bard that can use the mask.

Just kind of annoying how Bristlebane really doesn't confer any advantage in the P99 timeline.

Jimjam
08-07-2023, 02:54 AM
It gives you a free swing to prank / troll and claim it is “wHaT mY cHaRaCtEr WoUlD dO!”

Pootle
08-07-2023, 04:41 AM
Bone Chips....

Many many Bone Chips.

I worked to get a half elf bard non-kos to all Cabalis factions.... "For Science!"

Farmed, bought and turned in 10,000 bone chips.
As easy as that. :D

jolanar
08-07-2023, 10:23 AM
Well, I realised if I'm very cautious, I can still sell and bank at Cabilis using sneak. It was just for taking a pitstop.

Anyway, I have an agnostic Bard that can use the mask.

Just kind of annoying how Bristlebane really doesn't confer any advantage in the P99 timeline.

On the reverse side, like you said, you can still sell and bank there. And a Halfling Bristlebane Rogue is like peak RP.

I have also lost connection while running through Cabilis and when you log back in your illusion is gone. That can be disastrous if you happen to be near a guard as those Cab guards are no joke.

Infectious
08-07-2023, 05:16 PM
Bone Chips....

Many many Bone Chips.

I worked to get a half elf bard non-kos to all Cabalis factions.... "For Science!"

Farmed, bought and turned in 10,000 bone chips.
As easy as that. :D

God bless you sir.

Swish
08-07-2023, 09:30 PM
what faction are the bankers on in Cabilis?

Pootle
08-08-2023, 04:20 AM
what faction are the bankers on in Cabilis?

I dont recall i am afraid (not sure where all my notes are from when i did the faction work).

I want to say 'Cabilis Residents' but i am probably wrong.

Jimjam
08-08-2023, 04:30 AM
Lore wise i’d guess the church controls the bank.

jolanar
08-09-2023, 04:10 AM
Bankers are usually on the relevant merchant faction, despite the fact they will attack you.