a few camp stealers.. Double xp weekend sucks sometimes

[ddemers]

Brightin / Thraal / Savasan all from Safe Space just moved into Frenzy camp in Velks.

didn't have the energy to fight them for the camp or not sure what reporting does so figured publicly exposing them is good enough.

[Kavious]

Picture doesnt show anything and theres no dialogue between you and them

Did you leave the zone for any reason? Gate outside, die or relog etc?

[ddemers]

I was sitting in wolf form, and they moved in and started killing... lol I do this camp way too often and folks have only moved in like this once before and they quickly moved on once I spoke up.

Savasan knew he/she was in the wrong and just being inconsiderate which is not the norm for this server.

[cadoipi]

Charm their mobs when the mob is at 5%, break charm, get exp, send tell thanking them for helping you with your camp. Flip a coin to see if you get suspended or they leave.

Semi-seriously elf law for camps rather arcane. Best to politely engage the other party right away with a message that you are holding said camp. From there it is best to contact an elf lawyer for advice if they do not back down. Or be the bigger elf and offer to group with them at the camp.

[ddemers]

oh If I had the energy I would have engaged with them and had some fun lol.

I just left them to it. I didn't need any xp, they had a 60 enchanter helping them speed up the xp so even with the attitude I figured they could have the camp.

If they had just asked how much longer I would be around or if they could kill the trash mobs I would have let them have it. Most people that engage with me at that camp usually get the camp sooner than later or I go out of my way to make sure they get duplicate lore items.

[Ooloo]

I'm still not really clear on what happened. Did you talk to them at all? Like, did you say some version of "hey I'm camping this" and then they said "lol don't care"?

You said "Savasan knew he/she was in the wrong". How do you know that?

I'm skeptical because you're like oh I didn't have the energy to fight them but you did have the energy to make a whole thread about the incident?

[sajbert]

So no logs, you didn’t call a guide and all you provide is a screenshot. If I understand you correctly you didn’t even point out it was your camp.

I’ve played with at least Bright in the past and I doubt that player would participate in camp stealing.

”Oh I had no energy to engage with them, lets just shitpost on the forums about it”.

Not making a good case for yourself.

[Guesty07]

Maybe it was you who stole their camp? I can attest that all three, Savasan, Thrall and Bright are very good and reasonable people who don't engage in stuff like this.

[jadier]

Were you by any chance doing that annoying thing enchanters often do there where you claim the nameds on all three levels at once?

Also, why is wolf form the only buff ya got up?

[Xer0]

So no logs, you didn’t call a guide and all you provide is a screenshot. If I understand you correctly you didn’t even point out it was your camp.

I’ve played with at least Bright in the past and I doubt that player would participate in camp stealing.

”Oh I had no energy to engage with them, lets just shitpost on the forums about it”.

Not making a good case for yourself.

I've been playing P99 since 2012. I only enabled logs like 3 months ago. Never thought it was necessary. Only recently when I started running into petulant people like yourself did I think "I should probably turn them on".. And even then: being a simple plaintext document they prove absolutely nothing, and had he provided them you likely would have just suggested he modified them.

Furthermore-- even if he had petitioned a guide? It is a holiday weekend I guarantee nothing would have happened. In fact you don't KNOW he never petitioned a guide. He may very well have, and it may have happened that only upon conceding his rightful camp due to a lack of enforcement, he decided to take to the forums and get justice in his own way.

Frankly the only time I have ever noticed them answering petitions against other players behaving in a pnp-breaking manne, is when you make it clear they're behaving suspiciously like 1 person controlling multiple characters. Ive petitioned at least a dozen times over stolen camps in the last year. Care to guess how many times there has actually been a resolution in a time frame that actually meant something? if you guessed 0 you're right. But every time I have mentioned "they definitely appear to be only taking complex actions/making complex movements 1 at a time" the GM's usually show up within minutes.

As an aside: the fact that you've played with a person mentioned above means absolutely fugg-all. In fact it alludes to the idea that you two have a friendly relationship and thus have an interest in defending them-- and as such have a bias against someone who would speak ill of them.


Check this out though, smartguy-- people are not ALWAYS on their best or worst behavior. Even if every time you've ever seen him, the two of you have had a trouble free experience? Doesn't mean he's incapable of acting shady when someone else is standing in the way of what he wants. So you should just check that lame ass argument at the door because it might just be the most worthless thing I've ever heard anyone say.

[Guesty07]

Camping frenzy with 1 buff up - illusion? Yeah, no.

And the reply above? Big yikes.

[Xer0]

Camping frenzy with 1 buff up - illusion? Yeah, no.

And the reply above? Big yikes.

I feel like you're either dense or intentionally misconstruing the point he was trying to make. It's pretty obvious he only mentioned that particular buff in order to imply he was hanging out at the camp while there were enemies spawned. Since enchanters in WW form aren't kos to Velks mobs.

[Toxigen]

sounds like you got caught AFK or dead w/ a full camp popped and they took it

[Jimjam]

sounds like you got caught AFK or dead w/ a full camp popped and they took it

A lot of times when I visit Velks there are enchanters sitting completely motionless and unresponsive in safe tunnels and halls next to areas which are full of mobs.

I've always assumed they were just vibing with their fellow dogs and moved in with my group to kill the mobs they are ignoring.

Didn't realise it was a normal thing to just be there with 1 buff only killing 1 mob but claim the entire area.

Have I been making a faux pas?

[jadier]

I feel like you're either dense or intentionally misconstruing the point he was trying to make. It's pretty obvious he only mentioned that particular buff in order to imply he was hanging out at the camp while there were enemies spawned. Since enchanters in WW form aren't kos to Velks mobs.

Big yikes. You're talking about what he said, the other guy's talking about what he showed.

Look at the screenshot. His buff bar is on the right hand side. There's one buff on, and it's Illusion: Werewolf.

Maybe tone the attitude down a bit, bud.

Enchanter hanging out with exactly one buff up isn't actively clearing anything. Dude got caught either AFK or trying to claim a bunch of spots he wasn't clearing or something and a group moved in. Instead of talking to them about splitting the mobs (since Frenzied is like 3 camps), he came to the forum to blast em. It's Velks, baby.

[cannobeers3]

Sitting at a spot afk ain't holding the spot. Either actively work on clearing or let the other folks claim it. If you were rebuffing that would be a different story, but your screenie shows you were just sitting there.

Do better.

Elf court adjourned.

[Gustoo]

Elf court adjourned

[Guesty07]

I feel like you're either dense or intentionally misconstruing the point he was trying to make. It's pretty obvious he only mentioned that particular buff in order to imply he was hanging out at the camp while there were enemies spawned. Since enchanters in WW form aren't kos to Velks mobs.

Wow, I think its you who's dense. Don't you see the screenshot posted?

[cadoipi]

A lot of times when I visit Velks there are enchanters sitting completely motionless and unresponsive in safe tunnels and halls next to areas which are full of mobs.

I've always assumed they were just vibing with their fellow dogs and moved in with my group to kill the mobs they are ignoring.

Didn't realise it was a normal thing to just be there with 1 buff only killing 1 mob but claim the entire area.

Have I been making a faux pas?

Enchanters often begin to suffer from reverse Stockholm syndrome and start identifying with the mobs they control.

[ddemers]

Enchanters often begin to suffer from reverse Stockholm syndrome and start identifying with the mobs they control.

lol

And to answer the above, yes it's common to just kill the 3-4 PHs/Named mobs.


for others I have a few of the 'logs' with some chit-chat, but if you don't believe what I am saying, then what will a log prove... it's a text file that can easily be edited before I post lol.

[Toxigen]

If the PH is up and not engaged the camp is open.

Sorry you don't got 5k wristband. Hope this helps.

[ddemers]

If the PH is up and not engaged the camp is open.

Sorry you don't got 5k wristband. Hope this helps.

While technically this is true, it would also go against play-nice rules. Just imagine how fun the game would be if folks stand around trying to get FTE on PH/Named mobs while other(s) folks are camping it. Thank god not everyone plays the way you feel is ok.

[Jotok]

that spot is two camps. You have to give up one when somebody else comes along. I have met MANY greedy solo enchanters at that spot. Pick one and move along

[Toxigen]

ahcktually

[Swish]

If you're XPing in Velks you're going to have a bad time.

[Tunabros]

Charm their mobs when the mob is at 5%, break charm, get exp, send tell thanking them for helping you with your camp. Flip a coin to see if you get suspended or they leave.

Semi-seriously elf law for camps rather arcane. Best to politely engage the other party right away with a message that you are holding said camp. From there it is best to contact an elf lawyer for advice if they do not back down. Or be the bigger elf and offer to group with them at the camp.

Holy mother of based

[sinnycool]

If they didnt at least send you a message once they saw you they are in the wrong. I mean if you were sitting right on the camp. If u came running up later you would probably have to send them a message. Communication is key.

I have seen this go down dirty from both sides. People just storming into a camp n taking it without even a message and weirdos walking up later claiming they have been there for hours when they were no where in sight for a significant amount of time.

[Swish]

I've seen the "been here for hours" line way too many times when they havent been in the zone for more than a few minutes.

[Jimjam]

I've seen the "been here for hours" line way too many times when they havent been in the zone for more than a few minutes.

My fave response to that is to suggest it is probably time for them to take a break and they’ll often begin to back pedal, claiming they’ve not been there that long.

At this point you know they’re not being candid so why trust a word they say.

[Xer0]

While technically this is true, it would also go against play-nice rules. Just imagine how fun the game would be if folks stand around trying to get FTE on PH/Named mobs while other(s) folks are camping it. Thank god not everyone plays the way you feel is ok.


Probably be more fun than it is presently where people w/nothing better to do just sit at camps 18 hours a day, and when they pick up the lore item they either corpse it or log their alt. PNP ruins the game. Facts.

[Woodark]

“Everyone is a murderer. You just need a good reason and a bad day.”

While I don't personally endorse this quote, there’s a show on Netflix called Inside Man that explores the idea that anyone can become a murderer given the right circumstances and a bad day.

https://youtu.be/Cj_qFctViCc

[DeliciousHalflings]

I was sitting in wolf form, and they moved in and started killing... lol I do this camp way too often and folks have only moved in like this once before and they quickly moved on once I spoke up.

Savasan knew he/she was in the wrong and just being inconsiderate which is not the norm for this server.

Inconsiderate childish bullshit is absolutely 110% ALWAYS been the p99 norm. If you think otherwise, you're kidding yourself. Wouldn't need earthquakes and random spawn timers and a fucking lexicon of arbitrary rules if this kind of fuckery wasn't not only the norm but p99 by design.

[Cecily]

My fave response to that is to suggest it is probably time for them to take a break and they’ll often begin to back pedal, claiming they’ve not been there that long.

At this point you know they’re not being candid so why trust a word they say.
That's beautiful haha.

[Ooloo]

I bet it is statistically true that if you just show up at a camp and sit there waiting for the other person to be done they'll end up leaving sooner than if they had been there alone, cause there's this awkward tension that the person waiting creates for the person camping.

Another good tactic is to ask "how long you gonna be here?". It's all about the mind game.

[cd288]

Usually if someone asks how long are you going to be here and I've already been there awhile I will definitely leave sooner than I otherwise would. Just because I feel bad hogging the camp.

[Toxigen]

Even if I'm planning on leaving a camp I make damn sure the PH spawns and not the named. No nameds for free.

[Jimjam]

Even if I'm planning on leaving a camp I make damn sure the PH spawns and not the named. No nameds for free.

I'm the opposite I'll always clear the last PH before logging out. I love the idea of someone just showing up and finding the named ready and waiting :D

[cadoipi]

I'm the opposite I'll always clear the last PH before logging out. I love the idea of someone just showing up and finding the named ready and waiting :D

Doing the Lord's work!

[cd288]

I'm the opposite I'll always clear the last PH before logging out. I love the idea of someone just showing up and finding the named ready and waiting :D

This is why you are a good and nice person and just another example of why Toxigen is not lol

[Toxigen]

This is why you are a good and nice person and just another example of why Toxigen is not lol

https://i.imgur.com/I2MzgHC.jpg

[cd288]

At least you are self aware

[Swish]

Usually if someone asks how long are you going to be here and I've already been there awhile I will definitely leave sooner than I otherwise would. Just because I feel bad hogging the camp.

I'll let the camp go early if the person is nice, but you get those guys who try to lawyer you away or insert themselves...thats no fun and I won't be doing them any favours.

[cd288]

I'll let the camp go early if the person is nice, but you get those guys who try to lawyer you away or insert themselves...thats no fun and I won't be doing them any favours.

Oh yeah for sure, I meant like people who just casually ask nicely

[Rager and Quitter]

I'm a super P99 bitch. People lie to me all the time I'm sure and I happily give up the camp for them. If I see someone's corpse at a camp and they show up, I'll stay and help them break the camp and let them get right back to it. People move into camps all the time and I'll say something like, "I'm not even a speed bump, I clearly can't stop you (and friends) from taking this camp. Best of luck!" And I leave. I don't know the lawyerquest rules, nor do I have the inclination or desire to learn them. I'm just as happy logging off and playing Dying Light or Metro 2033 or something else.

[Jotok]

Decided to hit up my old haunt Velks. Put out the /ooc CC, some solo enchanter saying he is camping Frenzy. /ooc Taking Frenzy, work my way up there killing spiders. Solo Enchanter runs away after taking a glimpse of my RAW POWER!

Solo Enchanters in Velks are dogs. Treat them as such

[Jimjam]

They literally are dogs!:D:p:cool:

[Toxigen]

Decided to hit up my old haunt Velks. Put out the /ooc CC, some solo enchanter saying he is camping Frenzy. /ooc Taking Frenzy, work my way up there killing spiders. Solo Enchanter runs away after taking a glimpse of my RAW POWER!

Solo Enchanters in Velks are dogs. Treat them as such

I'll take things that didn't happen for $500, Alex.

[skyfoxnz]

I think this thread is more suit for rant and flame if you want to name and shame