green server is boring as hell now

[Tunabros]

nothing cool happens and everyone speedruns to level just so they can raid.

real

[kog1115]

https://tenor.com/GqE3.gif

[Fammaden]

Need new Teal ASAP.

[azxten]

Oh so now you understand...

Too bad staff wants it this way. They need to come back to the classic vision and nerf channeling, exp rates, ZEMs, charm, and a bunch of other stuff languishing in the bug forum. Do it all from the start of Green 2.0 and don't do dumb shit like adding enhanced mob spawns and instanced Teal. Make it hard to level and ignore the petition queue from crybabies arguing over HHK goblins which was 5 camps on live, not 1 camp like P99.

All I can figure is they know no one actually can handle classic EQ 1-60 grind so they're ignoring this stuff to boost population. P99 is easy mode, 70% channeling from level 1, live was 30%. They've turned their back on the classic population and cater now to randoms interested in playing EQ who will never know they've been robbed.

P99 died for me when Green launched and I leveled 1-50 on enhanced newb mob spawns, got carried by Enchanter pet groups in ZEM zones 1-50, and instanced over to Teal to get a mana stone before merging back. This is miles from classic EQ now and all the bug reports are there to show why. P99 promotes account/character spamming and sharing fast exp gain custom server play complete with guild UN for loot decisions. Shit's hilarious.

[wuanahto]

p99's population was not meant to have 2 servers.

[Cippofra]

See plenty of people that are on the excruciatingly slow, track to level 60. In my case, it's probably never even possible as a casual player. Server has an amazingly healthy newbie population

[Trexller]

nah healthy server population means that there aren't enough pulls to go around, and if you want a decent group with plenty of mobs you gotta play at 4 am PST

[Isthmus]

If you're having fun playing the game, you're doing it wrong idiot!

[Lambparade]

Server seems fine to me. Easy to find groups if your even a little bit social. I'm still having plenty of fun. Only level 51 almost 52. I'm taking my time and its been a blast.

[sinnycool]

I agree that it is a little easier than og but its also still the best thing out there thats closest to what it once was. Still way harder than todays babyfied mmo

[Ooloo]

Do teal people really still cling to the idea that teal was some kind of magic place? It was just green with kingdom as the top guild instead of seal team, everything else was exactly the same

[Infectious]

Oh so now you understand...

Too bad staff wants it this way. They need to come back to the classic vision and nerf channeling, exp rates, ZEMs, charm, and a bunch of other stuff languishing in the bug forum. Do it all from the start of Green 2.0 and don't do dumb shit like adding enhanced mob spawns and instanced Teal. Make it hard to level and ignore the petition queue from crybabies arguing over HHK goblins which was 5 camps on live, not 1 camp like P99.

All I can figure is they know no one actually can handle classic EQ 1-60 grind so they're ignoring this stuff to boost population. P99 is easy mode, 70% channeling from level 1, live was 30%. They've turned their back on the classic population and cater now to randoms interested in playing EQ who will never know they've been robbed.

P99 died for me when Green launched and I leveled 1-50 on enhanced newb mob spawns, got carried by Enchanter pet groups in ZEM zones 1-50, and instanced over to Teal to get a mana stone before merging back. This is miles from classic EQ now and all the bug reports are there to show why. P99 promotes account/character spamming and sharing fast exp gain custom server play complete with guild UN for loot decisions. Shit's hilarious.

Do you do anything but bitch and complain?

[astuce999]

Do teal people really still cling to the idea that teal was some kind of magic place? It was just green with kingdom as the top guild instead of seal team, everything else was exactly the same

Nope. But thanks for playing, you may try to slander Teal again on your next post!

To be fair, Green has come a long way for the casual player, as a lot of previous posters have indicated, the server has a vibrant lowbie population and it's fairly easy to get groups (and mobs) all the way to early 50's.

Honorable mention goes to @azxten for the "and instanced over to Teal to get a mana stone before merging back." comment, consider working as a political consultant if you haven't already, it takes talent to take such a huge slanderous dump on a server in so few words. But that's not how it really happened, if it happened at all. :)

cheers,

Astuce

[loramin]

Do teal people really still cling to the idea that teal was some kind of magic place? It was just green with kingdom as the top guild instead of seal team, everything else was exactly the same

If you wanted a server first, you stayed on Green. If you wanted to join the top zerg raid guild, you stayed on Green. In short, if you wanted to compete, you stayed on Green.

So, Teal wound up being the place where the people who didn't care about competition went to just play EverQuest ... which resulted in it having a lot less asshole players on it.

Did that make Teal all sunshine and rainbows? Of course not. But if you played on Teal, you definitely noticed the higher quality of players, and that was what made it a noticebly superior server.

RIP Teal.

[Fammaden]

Introducing Project 1999: Aquamarine.

[Cippofra]

I agree that it is a little easier than og but its also still the best thing out there thats closest to what it once was. Still way harder than todays babyfied mmo

Have we just been graced with the real presence of the one and only sinnycool the youtube star?

[Tunabros]

all sinnycool does is complain about mechanics and other players on his youtube channel

kekw

[Lampolo]

Have been playing a new char on green since the weekend. All I see are powerlevelers and a bunch of shit classes like druids, necros, bards, sks, rangers etc... No groups running anywhere. Not even oasis crocs the times I checked in.

Everyone needs to stop telling noobs to be druids necros and sks. They do me no favors unless I need track, port, sow

[Tnair]

Have been playing a new char on green since the weekend. All I see are powerlevelers and a bunch of shit classes like druids, necros, bards, sks, rangers etc... No groups running anywhere. Not even oasis crocs the times I checked in.

Everyone needs to stop telling noobs to be druids necros and sks. They do me no favors unless I need track, port, sow

It's interesting to compare the experience at the moment, on Blue it's 95% level 60s semi-afk staring at empty spawn locations, and likely the whole zone is empty if it doesn't contain BiS drops or tunnel fodder. Meanwhile on Green every newbie zone guard is being watched by a necromancer, Druid, or shaman.. it's like every guard on Green gets the Permafrost Ice Giant treatment

[Cippofra]

Have been playing a new char on green since the weekend. All I see are powerlevelers and a bunch of shit classes like druids, necros, bards, sks, rangers etc... No groups running anywhere. Not even oasis crocs the times I checked in.

Everyone needs to stop telling noobs to be druids necros and sks. They do me no favors unless I need track, port, sow

Literally had to leave kurn’s due to overcrowding. I’m in oasis now. Its empty. Because we know enough now to realize how dumb oasis is, regardless of our fond Cazel memories

[Findel]

Gday all,

Well, I am having super fun starting as a solo main newbie druid (actually did a few levels years ago, but life intervened.)

What I am experiencing now is even better than last millenium EQ, because the server is full of experienced EQ veterans who are knowledgable, rich and helpful to newbies.

I got buffs at EC tunnel, good prices for gear, generous help when selling. Level 5-14 in a few days with all spells and some nice newbie gear. Occasional random help out in the wilds.

Huge fun :)

[Cippofra]

It's definitely a different era. I played on blue a bit...but fresh on green with no hand outs or power leveling and up to level 18 in 2 weeks. In 99, level 18 took centuries and lots of questioning the meaning of life.

[Coridan]

Game mastery is a big thing. The game isn't necessarily easier (though it may be, hard to tell) but we're older and more experienced with it. It would be crazy if we all sucked after playing for 20 years.

A hard mode server could be fun. Just up NPC hp and damage by 10% or something

[azxten]

Game mastery is a big thing. The game isn't necessarily easier

The "game knowledge" or similar theory is often floated but it's simply not true. P99 is fun for awhile until you start to question things once the initial excitement wears off.

The actual EQ channeling formula was reverse engineered form the client and is used on TAKP. This formula is also supported by several statements from a GM lead dev on the official Sony forums. Yet the P99 staff refuses to implement classic channeling rates. Channeling at level 1 has ~70% success rate compared to 30% in classic EQ. Not only that but P99 seems to use the base EQemu code that only does one roll for channeling for all attacks. In classic every time you get hit it's a separate channeling roll. Got hit 20 times while casting a spell? You have to roll for channeling success 20 times and not have a single failure to succeed. On P99 you get hit 20 times while casting, it does a single channeling roll and just modifies the success chance based on up to 5 hits (if I remember right).

For years I overlooked how I was able to oddly successfully gate quite often with 10 mobs hitting me or so easily cast with mobs hitting me. At level 20 you're already channeling at like 80-90% success rate when classic EQ would have you around 40-50%. Couldn't overlook this anymore. This central mechanic to all of EQ is trivial to fix, extremely well supported by decompiled classic client and official Sony forum dev posts but for whatever reason the P99 staff refuses to fix it.

I put all of this together in a bug report including all the code necessary to fix it and Nilbog confirmed he would investigate it when it has time. That was 12-04-2021. Then I also made a bug report on how incredibly broken the bug forums are, how shitty it is to try to contribute to P99 when the staff runs such a shitty bug/contribution process, and got silence in response. That was the last time I played P99.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3396699

Started looking into this after getting sick of P99 turning into nothing but Enchanters power level groups, soloing item drops, carrying raids, and so on. While there are several problems with Enchanter I focused in on this channeling issue as it's obviously much more impactful and central to the experience and "classic." The silence of the devs on this issue tells me everything I need to know. You can give them a C++ patch file, all the evidence, everything in a near perfect bug report and they'll sit on it for years while they add muffins to vendors or whatever. All that tells me is the idea of classic EQ on P99 is dead and the staff is just fine running a custom easy mode server focused solely on poop sock raiding.

I just come here occasionally to point this out because I'd certainly want to know that P99 isn't trying to recreate classic anymore before I put in time here. It's easy to overlook things thinking they just need the right evidence, code assistance, etc but less easy when you give them all those things and they selectively ignore it. Fully disillusioned. Also easy to say "they're volunteers, it's the best we have, etc" but really P99 as a "project" is extremely mismanaged and is doing a disservice to classic EQ at this point. That wasn't true 10 years ago when I started here and Nilbog was saying he'd make changes to be classic no matter how many people cried about it.

[Absinthium]

I have been having a blast......granted, I am only just starting to date, so my feelings may evolve as my experiences accumulate. But I am thrilled to see people actually in the game doing things, whereas on live it's a ghost town

[PatChapp]

The "game knowledge" or similar theory is often floated but it's simply not true. P99 is fun for awhile until you start to question things once the initial excitement wears off.

The actual EQ channeling formula was reverse engineered form the client and is used on TAKP. This formula is also supported by several statements from a GM lead dev on the official Sony forums. Yet the P99 staff refuses to implement classic channeling rates. Channeling at level 1 has ~70% success rate compared to 30% in classic EQ. Not only that but P99 seems to use the base EQemu code that only does one roll for channeling for all attacks. In classic every time you get hit it's a separate channeling roll. Got hit 20 times while casting a spell? You have to roll for channeling success 20 times and not have a single failure to succeed. On P99 you get hit 20 times while casting, it does a single channeling roll and just modifies the success chance based on up to 5 hits (if I remember right).

For years I overlooked how I was able to oddly successfully gate quite often with 10 mobs hitting me or so easily cast with mobs hitting me. At level 20 you're already channeling at like 80-90% success rate when classic EQ would have you around 40-50%. Couldn't overlook this anymore. This central mechanic to all of EQ is trivial to fix, extremely well supported by decompiled classic client and official Sony forum dev posts but for whatever reason the P99 staff refuses to fix it.

I put all of this together in a bug report including all the code necessary to fix it and Nilbog confirmed he would investigate it when it has time. That was 12-04-2021. Then I also made a bug report on how incredibly broken the bug forums are, how shitty it is to try to contribute to P99 when the staff runs such a shitty bug/contribution process, and got silence in response. That was the last time I played P99.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3396699

Started looking into this after getting sick of P99 turning into nothing but Enchanters power level groups, soloing item drops, carrying raids, and so on. While there are several problems with Enchanter I focused in on this channeling issue as it's obviously much more impactful and central to the experience and "classic." The silence of the devs on this issue tells me everything I need to know. You can give them a C++ patch file, all the evidence, everything in a near perfect bug report and they'll sit on it for years while they add muffins to vendors or whatever. All that tells me is the idea of classic EQ on P99 is dead and the staff is just fine running a custom easy mode server focused solely on poop sock raiding.

I just come here occasionally to point this out because I'd certainly want to know that P99 isn't trying to recreate classic anymore before I put in time here. It's easy to overlook things thinking they just need the right evidence, code assistance, etc but less easy when you give them all those things and they selectively ignore it. Fully disillusioned. Also easy to say "they're volunteers, it's the best we have, etc" but really P99 as a "project" is extremely mismanaged and is doing a disservice to classic EQ at this point. That wasn't true 10 years ago when I started here and Nilbog was saying he'd make changes to be classic no matter how many people cried about it.

You seem rather perturbed. Do you still play the game or just write petitions

[azxten]

You seem rather perturbed. Do you still play the game or just write petitions

Reading isn't your strong suit.

Anyway I did want to say P99 was fun and I understand why the staff doesn't give a shit anymore. I don't either.

[branamil]

The "game knowledge" or similar theory is often floated but it's simply not true. P99 is fun for awhile until you start to question things once the initial excitement wears off.

The actual EQ channeling formula was reverse engineered form the client and is used on TAKP. This formula is also supported by several statements from a GM lead dev on the official Sony forums. Yet the P99 staff refuses to implement classic channeling rates. Channeling at level 1 has ~70% success rate compared to 30% in classic EQ. Not only that but P99 seems to use the base EQemu code that only does one roll for channeling for all attacks. In classic every time you get hit it's a separate channeling roll. Got hit 20 times while casting a spell? You have to roll for channeling success 20 times and not have a single failure to succeed. On P99 you get hit 20 times while casting, it does a single channeling roll and just modifies the success chance based on up to 5 hits (if I remember right).

For years I overlooked how I was able to oddly successfully gate quite often with 10 mobs hitting me or so easily cast with mobs hitting me. At level 20 you're already channeling at like 80-90% success rate when classic EQ would have you around 40-50%. Couldn't overlook this anymore. This central mechanic to all of EQ is trivial to fix, extremely well supported by decompiled classic client and official Sony forum dev posts but for whatever reason the P99 staff refuses to fix it.

I put all of this together in a bug report including all the code necessary to fix it and Nilbog confirmed he would investigate it when it has time. That was 12-04-2021. Then I also made a bug report on how incredibly broken the bug forums are, how shitty it is to try to contribute to P99 when the staff runs such a shitty bug/contribution process, and got silence in response. That was the last time I played P99.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3396699

Started looking into this after getting sick of P99 turning into nothing but Enchanters power level groups, soloing item drops, carrying raids, and so on. While there are several problems with Enchanter I focused in on this channeling issue as it's obviously much more impactful and central to the experience and "classic." The silence of the devs on this issue tells me everything I need to know. You can give them a C++ patch file, all the evidence, everything in a near perfect bug report and they'll sit on it for years while they add muffins to vendors or whatever. All that tells me is the idea of classic EQ on P99 is dead and the staff is just fine running a custom easy mode server focused solely on poop sock raiding.

I just come here occasionally to point this out because I'd certainly want to know that P99 isn't trying to recreate classic anymore before I put in time here. It's easy to overlook things thinking they just need the right evidence, code assistance, etc but less easy when you give them all those things and they selectively ignore it. Fully disillusioned. Also easy to say "they're volunteers, it's the best we have, etc" but really P99 as a "project" is extremely mismanaged and is doing a disservice to classic EQ at this point. That wasn't true 10 years ago when I started here and Nilbog was saying he'd make changes to be classic no matter how many people cried about it.

I found it funny that they recently closed a bug report opened about 7 YEARS ago. I mean I don't blame them for not giving a shit anymore but they should at least let people contribute who actually do give a shit. Now it's just a black box updated at a glacial pace

[Fammaden]

Brand new highly successful progression server, continued support of all three servers, effectively 24/7 volunteer in game support staff, continuing development and adjustment by Nilbog, frequent GM events and engagement with the raiding community....."don't give a shit anymore".

[drackgon]

I think peeps need to wake up and walk outside and enjoy the spring weather. The staff is seriously VOLUNTEER, they do stuff when they can, and I remember one saying the drop rate of cloth off a decaying skel is just as important as a raid boss fix. Every bug, fix, petition that neckbeards constantly spam staff with. And peeps surprised stuff is moving slow? Be happy with the box, yall are given. And most issues/drama is caused bc as a server you can't behave. Kudos to staff for doing what they want, when they want. Hell there has been what like 3 GM events in past few months? That takes tons of time, coding that these peeps have RL stuff, but still chose to help bring "fun" to game. stop being dicks! If you don't like it uninstall and play the 10 mil other video games.

What Fammaden said is truth!

[Lampolo]

Brand new highly successful progression server, continued support of all three servers, effectively 24/7 volunteer in game support staff, continuing development and adjustment by Nilbog, frequent GM events and engagement with the raiding community....."don't give a shit anymore".

Cuck

[Lampolo]

I think peeps need to wake up and walk outside and enjoy the spring weather. The staff is seriously VOLUNTEER, they do stuff when they can, and I remember one saying the drop rate of cloth off a decaying skel is just as important as a raid boss fix. Every bug, fix, petition that neckbeards constantly spam staff with. And peeps surprised stuff is moving slow? Be happy with the box, yall are given. And most issues/drama is caused bc as a server you can't behave. Kudos to staff for doing what they want, when they want. Hell there has been what like 3 GM events in past few months? That takes tons of time, coding that these peeps have RL stuff, but still chose to help bring "fun" to game. stop being dicks! If you don't like it uninstall and play the 10 mil other video games.

What Fammaden said is truth!

Cuck

[Chortles Snortles]

https://media.tenor.com/dTRdLiY9N7sAAAAd/giraffe-fence-post.gif

[Woodark]

I think peeps need to wake up and walk outside and enjoy the spring weather. The staff is seriously VOLUNTEER, they do stuff when they can, and I remember one saying the drop rate of cloth off a decaying skel is just as important as a raid boss fix. Every bug, fix, petition that neckbeards constantly spam staff with. And peeps surprised stuff is moving slow? Be happy with the box, yall are given. And most issues/drama is caused bc as a server you can't behave. Kudos to staff for doing what they want, when they want. Hell there has been what like 3 GM events in past few months? That takes tons of time, coding that these peeps have RL stuff, but still chose to help bring "fun" to game. stop being dicks! If you don't like it uninstall and play the 10 mil other video games.

What Fammaden said is truth!

Practice what you preach. Take a break and let people express themselves.

[TripSin]

I have been having a blast......granted, I am only just starting to date, so my feelings may evolve as my experiences accumulate. But I am thrilled to see people actually in the game doing things, whereas on live it's a ghost town

That's awesome!

Please keep in mind that, unfortunately, this forum is infested with a lot of mentally ill, questionable uses of organic matter. People you will see on here a lot like tunabros, azxten, and chortles fortunately are not actually representative of most of the people you will meet in game who are playing p99 casually.

[Chortles Snortles]

https://i.imgur.com/nro0DuG.jpg

[azxten]

That's awesome!

Please keep in mind that, unfortunately, this forum is infested with a lot of mentally ill, questionable uses of organic matter. People you will see on here a lot like tunabros, azxten, and chortles fortunately are not actually representative of most of the people you will meet in game who are playing p99 casually.

Don't forget the balls.

[Tunabros]

That's awesome!

Please keep in mind that, unfortunately, this forum is infested with a lot of mentally ill, questionable uses of organic matter. People you will see on here a lot like tunabros, azxten, and chortles fortunately are not actually representative of most of the people you will meet in game who are playing p99 casually.

mad kekw

[Chortles Snortles]

https://i.imgur.com/tfv5PF1.jpg

[everquestgreen]

https://media.tenor.com/dExGXdkSY0oAAAAC/uncle-buck-blasphemy.gif

[BigChief]

Oh so now you understand...

Too bad staff wants it this way. They need to come back to the classic vision and nerf channeling, exp rates, ZEMs, charm, and a bunch of other stuff languishing in the bug forum. Do it all from the start of Green 2.0 and don't do dumb shit like adding enhanced mob spawns and instanced Teal. Make it hard to level and ignore the petition queue from crybabies arguing over HHK goblins which was 5 camps on live, not 1 camp like P99.

All I can figure is they know no one actually can handle classic EQ 1-60 grind so they're ignoring this stuff to boost population. P99 is easy mode, 70% channeling from level 1, live was 30%. They've turned their back on the classic population and cater now to randoms interested in playing EQ who will never know they've been robbed.

P99 died for me when Green launched and I leveled 1-50 on enhanced newb mob spawns, got carried by Enchanter pet groups in ZEM zones 1-50, and instanced over to Teal to get a mana stone before merging back. This is miles from classic EQ now and all the bug reports are there to show why. P99 promotes account/character spamming and sharing fast exp gain custom server play complete with guild UN for loot decisions. Shit's hilarious.

The 25 year old game should not be a challenge to anyone, except for a challenge of having a regular life outside the game.

It should be fun. Nobody is impressed by a sock pooper.

[Chortles Snortles]

mad detected

[Infectious]

The 25 year old game should not be a challenge to anyone, except for a challenge of having a regular life outside the game.

It should be fun. Nobody is impressed by a sock pooper.

Azxten is a respected character on these forums, his word is his bond. Watch your mouth before you get got. Mark ass custer.

[Toxigen]

Azxten is a respected character on these forums, his word is his bond. Watch your mouth before you get got. Mark ass custer.

lmao

[azxten]

Azxten is a respected character on these forums, his word is his bond. Watch your mouth before you get got. Mark ass custer.

Bitch get your ass back out on those streets. Imma need my money hoe. Where's my money?

[azxten]

Uh oh, I made a fun screenshot thread in RnF with pics from 2010s involving former staff. Looks like mod immediately deleted it. The ban is probably coming. So long!

[Chortles Snortles]

jokes are illegal

[Tunabros]

https://i.imgur.com/suKUCiS.png

how talking on p99 now a days feel like

[2flare]

Have been playing a new char on green since the weekend. All I see are powerlevelers and a bunch of shit classes like druids, necros, bards, sks, rangers etc... No groups running anywhere. Not even oasis crocs the times I checked in.

Everyone needs to stop telling noobs to be druids necros and sks. They do me no favors unless I need track, port, sow

This! Ive been playing in Oasis for 2 weeks. Religiously looking for groups but nobody wants to group up. Either it's a small closed group , power levelers or anti-social soloers. But I havent landed a single group in 10+ days here. Nothing.

[Toxigen]

This! Ive been playing in Oasis for 2 weeks. Religiously looking for groups but nobody wants to group up. Either it's a small closed group , power levelers or anti-social soloers. But I havent landed a single group in 10+ days here. Nothing.

Gotta get that /who game goin, dawg.

[eqravenprince]

Green is definitely stale. Give me classic.

[Baldwooky]

A classic capped p99 would be far more successful in terms of player retention.

[Toxigen]

A classic capped p99 would be far more successful in terms of player retention.

would it tho?

not much raid content

[eqravenprince]

would it tho?

not much raid content

Good reason to like it then.

[Cen]

Let's release P99 black ice, where everyone spawns in iceclad and we ONLY have the velious expansion and no classic or kunark world. Bwahahah

[Baldwooky]

would it tho?

not much raid content

Yes, yes it would.
Few points on this.

Firstly, the amount of raiding in classic everquest live was inverse to the population. The more raiding there was, the less the overall population numbers were.

The amount of grouping would increase due to a population more tightly compacted. I think theres a pretty common consensus on old school players that Luclin/pop/books/spreading the population and taking away forced interdependency mostly killed the experience that is an MMO.

Is there anyone here that thinks Green is better or healthier now than it was 2 years ago?

80% of the server would much rather log on, find a group in Solb/CT/lguk/perma/etc than log on, check a discord for what timers there are, run around, park their toons or stare at a wall. Eventually everyone reaches a fatigue in raiding, and goes back to the core of EQ.

Why do you think blue is dead and green has double the avg population?

[Toxigen]

Why do you think blue is dead and green has double the avg population?

I was going to reply until I read this.

You're not worth my time.

[Baldwooky]

I was going to reply until I read this.

You're not worth my time.

Blue population is half the population of green that's a fact at almost any time during the day.

Raid fatigue is real whether you want to deny it or not. If not for the sunken cost fallacy, then blue's population would be even worse. They should just merge the servers and start a new green 2.0 and be done with it, everyone will be more happy once the dust settles. The guys that have maxxed out accounts can still sock their precious pixels more, while everyone that likes the leveling up and group experience of real Everquest can have that again.

[Ooloo]

There are so many ways to play the game, I've been playing it for 20 years and there are tons of zones and encounters I've still never really experienced. There are still classes I've never even tried playing (bard ranger pally). If you actually run out of shit to do, even with just the content p99 provides, I can't imagine how bad your chair smells.

That being said I still think merge + fresh vanilla green is the only sane path forward. It will piss some people off but nobody ever really quits everquest let's be honest.

[Seducio]

The twilight of Blue helped me plan for Green. It felt like I beat Blue with two ToV characters with Epics even though EQ never truly ends. When I log into Blue it's like visiting trophies. There has been no desire for me to play there for quite some time.

So on Green I decided to take the long scenic route. I created many different ways to play and enjoy all the game has to offer. When I log in to one of my characters, I can play whatever version of the game I want. Tank and Spank. Rogue lite. Ranger outdoor tracks. Heals. Chanter soloing. Shaman soloing. Necro soloing. Druid soloing. Phone a friend. Duo or Trio dungeon maxing. Full Group. Epic hunting. Or Raid it up. When I tire of Raiding, I have tons else to do, and then can go Raid later after some time off. Hell I can even go explore zones I don't know well after two decades and learn something new. Baler is spot on. So much to do. Truly Everquest.

I won't be bored of this server for another two or three years easy.

[Ooloo]

I'm not baler but yes you get it

[Seducio]

No way - l woulda sworn. Apologies for the mistaken identity.

Wonder what happened to that guy

[Ooloo]

Somebody started calling me baler cause I guess I said something that reminded them of baler, because sometimes different people say similar things.

[Seducio]

Makes sense.

Back on topic real quick. I personally am not opposed to a new server. I just wouldn't play on it.

Daybreaks TLP scene has trained folks to want new servers. As best as I can tell however, P99 devs do things at their own pace. I doubt we'll see a new server for some time. Definitely not this year.

I'd rather enjoy what is free now than envy a 'grass is greener' future that will be more of the same.

[eqravenprince]

Makes sense.

Back on topic real quick. I personally am not opposed to a new server. I just wouldn't play on it.

Daybreaks TLP scene has trained folks to want new servers. As best as I can tell however, P99 devs do things at their own pace. I doubt we'll see a new server for some time. Definitely not this year.

I'd rather enjoy what is free now than envy a 'grass is greener' future that will be more of the same.

Daybreak has no influence any most anyone here. People want new server for a variety of reasons. For me, I like playing before everyone is twinked out. Classic for the most part prevents crazy twinking anyhow. Grouping is way more popular when fungi's and amazing twink weapons don't exist.

[Seducio]

There are plenty of reasons why folks would want a new server. Not knocking your preferences. You have valid concerns and population numbers reflect that. Wanting a fresh start is normal after some time. But things aren't dire yet and won't be for a little while.

I think you may underappreciate Daybreaks influence on player expectations even if most p99 players prefer EQ the way p99 devs do things here. Expectation of fresh servers is not something we as the player base can expect to occur often. P99 devs run on their own clock not that of the player base. Given Blue and Green (also Teal) - Red doesn't count - are the only 2 and half servers p99 has put out to the public its hard to demand another server for free so soon.

I personally feel that Classic prior to Kunark is too small of a world. I understand that some like the original design best though. In classic once you've killed both dragons if Plane of Air hasn't dropped yet there isn't much left to do.

The closest to what you are searching for on this server are the self found guilds. C'est le vie

[eqravenprince]

There are plenty of reasons why folks would want a new server. Not knocking your preferences. You have valid concerns and population numbers reflect that. Wanting a fresh start is normal after some time. But things aren't dire yet and won't be for a little while.

I think you may underappreciate Daybreaks influence on player expectations even if most p99 players prefer EQ the way p99 devs do things here. Expectation of fresh servers is not something we as the player base can expect to occur often. P99 devs run on their own clock not that of the player base. Given Blue and Green (also Teal) - Red doesn't count - are the only 2 and half servers p99 has put out to the public its hard to demand another server for free so soon.

I personally feel that Classic prior to Kunark is too small of a world. I understand that some like the original design best though. In classic once you've killed both dragons if Plane of Air hasn't dropped yet there isn't much left to do.

The closest to what you are searching for on this server are the self found guilds. C'est le vie

I don't think things are dire at all. If a new green never opens, I'll still play from time to time, but it's not nearly as much fun as new server. As for Daybreak, I think you severely overestimate how many p99 players care at all about them. I couldn't tell you a single thing about what Daybreak is up to in the last several years.

[Seducio]

I'm one of those players that couldn't tell you what if anything Daybreak has or hasn't been up to.

That said it would be naive of me if I didn't understand the company that owns the rights to EQ doesn't impact things at least indirectly.

I don't think p99 players care about Daybreak. I do think we are influenced by Daybreak.

[cd288]

Somebody started calling me baler cause I guess I said something that reminded them of baler, because sometimes different people say similar things.

Which previously banned forum account are you then?