The best spam is still not good.

[Hasbinbad]

Like Shane says, there is a funniest instance of everything: https://youtu.be/zKUpf1Vx0vs?t=1698, but that doesn't make a school shooting funny.

Trexeller, your impotent attempt to deflect from your inability to speak for yourself, while pretty, and likely the best spam I've ever seen, is still just useless spam (unless you count the 37 times I've ejaculated to it, so far).

https://i.imgur.com/616ybxs.png

(inb4 soft porn spam)
(inb4 the "I never said I have RL friends" quote, but I hope you keep milking that)

[Ekco]

pretty sure that one was the funniest instance of a school shooting. it's literally a chick that wants to be a dude doing a activity dominated by males.

and that shit is funny. sorry.

[Hasbinbad]

references without context.

[Hasbinbad]

This has been live for like five minutes, so you know he has seen it and it fuming. Probably going deep into his soft porn vault.

[Ekco]

are you having a stroke?

[Hasbinbad]

are you having a stroke?
Not any more than normal. *offers cock* Did you want to have a stroke?

[Ekco]

Not any more than normal. *offers cock* Did you want to have a stroke?

kay.. the context is it's shane gillis joke about school shootings from a year ago and the fact a f>m tranny shot up a elementary school last week.

hope this helps.

[Hasbinbad]

kay.. the context is it's shane gillis joke about school shootings from a year ago and the fact a f>m tranny shot up a elementary school last week.

hope this helps.
oh i don't actually care about school shootings, i just know that they are not, in principle, funny.

[unsunghero]

https://i.imgur.com/616ybxs.png


Proprietary-ing black people for memes is racist adjacent. Be better

/farts

/bends over

/smells it

Ahhh I love being morally smug

[Hasbinbad]

Proprietary-ing black people for memes is racist adjacent. Be better
Good crit, and you're right. Thanks.
/farts

/bends over

/smells it

Ahhh I love being morally smug
Way to rip South Park without credit, but ok.

[unsunghero]

Good crit, and you're right. Thanks.



It’s really not though. And yea I was being sarcastic with the southpark reference; I really don’t get off to flouting moral superiority. I’ve never understood the appeal for the left. Maybe my brain has just been so conditioned against it by constantly seeing it from the left for the past decade or so. But I personally think doing it is to fill some self-esteem void or to feel like one is following a higher purpose in a world falling away from religion

Not to get too lost in the sauce in analysis

[Hasbinbad]

words
Are you new here?

[aussenseiter]

It’s really not though. And yea I was being sarcastic with the southpark reference; I really don’t get off to flouting moral superiority. I’ve never understood the appeal for the left. Maybe my brain has just been so conditioned against it by constantly seeing it from the left for the past decade or so. But I personally think doing it is to fill some self-esteem void or to feel like one is following a higher purpose in a world falling away from religion

Not to get too lost in the sauce in analysis

Do you get off on monologuing against it? This is 3rd time minimum. :)

[unsunghero]

Are you new here?

I don’t post as much here because it’s more focused (ideally) on the actual game rather than political/cultural issues

But um let me look at the post count highly visible next to my name to anyone who isn’t a moron…

Looks like nope

[unsunghero]

Do you get off on monologuing against it? This is 3rd time minimum. :)

Do you get off about pointing that out?

Is this a complaining about complaining about complaining loop? Can’t wait!

[Hasbinbad]

I don’t post as much here because it’s more focused (ideally) on the actual game rather than political/cultural issues

But um let me look at the post count highly visible next to my name to anyone who isn’t a moron…

Looks like nope

post count doesnt mean shit. trexeller has a jillion posts, but 70% are fap mats.

[unsunghero]

post count doesnt mean shit. trexeller has a jillion posts, but 70% are fap mats.

True

A lot of mine are memes tbh. You should come into off topic sometime. I think you are one of the lefties who can really go the distance without having to circumvent multiple bannings like Horza/Dickslet or whatever his latest alt account is

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

But I personally think doing it is to fill some self-esteem void or to feel like one is following a higher purpose in a world falling away from religion



Well, a light bulb has gone off. This has been a concern in art, literature, philosophy, and religion, for at least 150 years, as a modern issue. Religious experience is an invention of the human imagination unfortunately built out of bronze age mythology that is 1) wrong and 2) damn were the masses dumb back then.


Please do not make me bring up examples. You ever sleep inside a fish? I thought not.


As literacy and non-lead saturated living environments became less prevalent, the species grew sharper. Knowledge increases. The cosmos does not revolve around us, and is significantly larger than was thought only but 200 years ago.



Socially, more people learned the tools we call language and reason. Not all people possess much in the way of language, or logic, even at this late date!


Consequence: Religion no longer supplies the religious experience it was invented for. Other dreams take hold. Other "ideals" and hopes for salvation.



D.H Lawrence argued, America was populated by two different kinds of people. People seeking an enlightenment society based in rational law and consent of the governed, and, Puritans.



He argued, the US has been in eternal conflict b/c of this. The liberty seeking people of reason, and then, that Puritanical thing. They have two difference value systems. It is a personality type, not a political type, so it is found everywhere.



The people you refer to are called, on the inside, "neo-puritans." Instead of the trinity of Father-Son-Holy Ghost they pursue some secular savior, some new purity, to make them whole.


tl;dr. I am not sure it is *moral* superiority you sense from some on the Left. In my case, it would be intellectual superiority. The stupidity of the masses is something you manage. It's dumb shit. And it's funny to see people, on either side, hold up some piece of shit and say, "we found it!" over and over and over.


We have a good system. The Left used to say we suck. Now, it is the Right who says we are doomed. And it's all because of butt sex. It has pushed so many people over the line, globally. Putin regularly says, this war is to protect Russia from gays and transexuals.


We got a good system. Currently, it's the right that is sour. We let gays in the club. They say it's curtains for us. But, it's curtains for them. The Twilight of the Gods motherfuckers. Read it, internalize.



God, as something that will save you, is dead. No exceptions.


How's that for an honest post?

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Less than 200 years. That's a couple handfuls of generations. We didn't even know there was a "galaxy" in the sense of there being other galaxies until Hubble. And we didn't know their were billions of *visible* galaxies ... until Hubble!


So we wonder why people are rustled. Alvin Toffler called it "future shock" -- the future happens too fast for human groups to digest it. This was back in the 60's. It creates disorientation, or what Durkheim, 100 years early in the 19th century, called "anomie" -- a feeling of normlessness. Confusion happens when people do not know which way is up.


SO just, you know, pop in an 8-Track of Europe 72, and just realize, all this fury? Your youth and your best mind is passing by, and you are thinking some boogie man gonna get us. It ain't gonna happen man. You just got some bad acid.

[aussenseiter]

Well, a light bulb has gone off. This has been a concern in art, literature, philosophy, and religion, for at least 150 years, as a modern issue. Religious experience is an invention of the human imagination unfortunately built out of bronze age mythology that is 1) wrong and 2) damn were the masses dumb back then.


Please do not make me bring up examples. You ever sleep inside a fish? I thought not.


As literacy and non-lead saturated living environments became less prevalent, the species grew sharper. Knowledge increases. The cosmos does not revolve around us, and is significantly larger than was thought only but 200 years ago.



Socially, more people learned the tools we call language and reason. Not all people possess much in the way of language, or logic, even at this late date!


Consequence: Religion no longer supplies the religious experience it was invented for. Other dreams take hold. Other "ideals" and hopes for salvation.



D.H Lawrence argued, America was populated by two different kinds of people. People seeking an enlightenment society based in rational law and consent of the governed, and, Puritans.



He argued, the US has been in eternal conflict b/c of this. The liberty seeking people of reason, and then, that Puritanical thing. They have two difference value systems. It is a personality type, not a political type, so it is found everywhere.



The people you refer to are called, on the inside, "neo-puritans." Instead of the trinity of Father-Son-Holy Ghost they pursue some secular savior, some new purity, to make them whole.


tl;dr. I am not sure it is *moral* superiority you sense from some on the Left. In my case, it would be intellectual superiority. The stupidity of the masses is something you manage. It's dumb shit. And it's funny to see people, on either side, hold up some piece of shit and say, "we found it!" over and over and over.


We have a good system. The Left used to say we suck. Now, it is the Right who says we are doomed. And it's all because of butt sex. It has pushed so many people over the line, globally. Putin regularly says, this war is to protect Russia from gays and transexuals.


We got a good system. Currently, it's the right that is sour. We let gays in the club. They say it's curtains for us. But, it's curtains for them. The Twilight of the Gods motherfuckers. Read it, internalize.



God, as something that will save you, is dead. No exceptions.


How's that for an honest post?

Thus spoke Sadrethustra, engaged in the sacred game we've had to invent in the wake of our great deed.

[Trexller]

sorry op ended up having to work late, ill come up with something special for ya later

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

WTF is he trying to do, destroy RNF?



Look, IGNORE THAT BULLSHIT. That was my goddam valet, Chang.

[Arvan]

Well, a light bulb has gone off. This has been a concern in art, literature, philosophy, and religion, for at least 150 years, as a modern issue. Religious experience is an invention of the human imagination unfortunately built out of bronze age mythology that is 1) wrong and 2) damn were the masses dumb back then.


Please do not make me bring up examples. You ever sleep inside a fish? I thought not.


As literacy and non-lead saturated living environments became less prevalent, the species grew sharper. Knowledge increases. The cosmos does not revolve around us, and is significantly larger than was thought only but 200 years ago.



Socially, more people learned the tools we call language and reason. Not all people possess much in the way of language, or logic, even at this late date!


Consequence: Religion no longer supplies the religious experience it was invented for. Other dreams take hold. Other "ideals" and hopes for salvation.



D.H Lawrence argued, America was populated by two different kinds of people. People seeking an enlightenment society based in rational law and consent of the governed, and, Puritans.



He argued, the US has been in eternal conflict b/c of this. The liberty seeking people of reason, and then, that Puritanical thing. They have two difference value systems. It is a personality type, not a political type, so it is found everywhere.



The people you refer to are called, on the inside, "neo-puritans." Instead of the trinity of Father-Son-Holy Ghost they pursue some secular savior, some new purity, to make them whole.


tl;dr. I am not sure it is *moral* superiority you sense from some on the Left. In my case, it would be intellectual superiority. The stupidity of the masses is something you manage. It's dumb shit. And it's funny to see people, on either side, hold up some piece of shit and say, "we found it!" over and over and over.


We have a good system. The Left used to say we suck. Now, it is the Right who says we are doomed. And it's all because of butt sex. It has pushed so many people over the line, globally. Putin regularly says, this war is to protect Russia from gays and transexuals.


We got a good system. Currently, it's the right that is sour. We let gays in the club. They say it's curtains for us. But, it's curtains for them. The Twilight of the Gods motherfuckers. Read it, internalize.



God, as something that will save you, is dead. No exceptions.


How's that for an honest post?

Hope you are able to seek help soon! Oh and my condolences as well.

[Hasbinbad]

sorry op ended up having to work late, ill come up with something special for ya later
I know how hard it was for you to stop typing, and I applaud your efforts.

[Hasbinbad]

The Left used to say we suck.
again confusing the left with liberals.

you will find not a single leftist that does not say that any capitalism sucks.

[Hasbinbad]

not a single one

[aussenseiter]

again confusing the left with liberals.

you will find not a single leftist that does not say that any capitalism sucks.

not a single one

Yes there are lots of morons.

[Hasbinbad]

Yes there are lots of morons.
iknowyouarebutwhatami

[aussenseiter]

iknowyouarebutwhatami

Can't we both be morons? Solidarity, brother.

[unsunghero]

I’d give all the $ away I promise

That’s how much I hate the rich

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

not a single one



Today, I think, perhaps, I would say Bernie Sanders is in that tradition still. Just barely. Very softcore. In the US. That is about it, imho. Mid 20th century leftism is like a hair metal band no one ever feels nostalgic about. It is truly a dead political movement, if we use the 20th century as our measure for defining it.



Most people are not interested in making sure their idea-structure is consistent, or coherent. Liberalism and Neo-liberalism dominates the space, not because Leftism won, but because Leftism lost, is gone, and liberalism is what won.


The US boasts two examples of extremely liberal law. Other countries think we are nuts to let stuff loose how we do.



Our free speech laws
Our 2nd Amendment

When it comes to another concern of the Right, property rights, the US ranks a respectable 13th:
https://i.imgur.com/hC3gvED.png


This is a bit of a cryptic civil war we are engaged in. Our system, is pretty set in stone. And on many issues we are all proud of the liberality of these laws. But this strange reactionary movement made "liberal" a bad word b/c US politics 60's-70's. In reality, liberalism would support busing, but that is the extent of their "leftism."



In a nutshell, liberalism in the US is leftism that is now vestigial in terms of aim, and that loves the free market. And a twist! That is what *used* to be called conservative before the party shifted South and more focused on a religious pitch deck.



So today, we have people who would have been called typical East Coast conservatives, being called Leftists, when they are in fact mostly neo-liberals, which real Leftists hate, and the people calling these folks Leftists, are enthusiasts for the most liberal gun and free speech laws in the world. But liberals are stupid.


Brain hurts.I'll eventually get sick. The patterns of force repeat themselves over and over, just different faces.

[Hasbinbad]

Long ago, I made this very technical readout with advanced computer assisted graphical software. Probably for you.

I post it again, here, now, for you. Because you are obviously in need.

https://i.imgur.com/Eg8H1gw.png

[Hasbinbad]

Americal "liberals" are right wing. This is not even slightly debatable, and I cannot engage in good faith with anyone who doesn't understand or will claim to not understand this basic concept.

[aussenseiter]

https://i.imgur.com/Eg8H1gw.png

Is this intended as parody?

[Hasbinbad]

I know it pains you to consider viewpoints other than your own, but I am asking you to do that.

[Hasbinbad]

Is this intended as parody?
And now I might actually accept genuine ignorance from this crowd.

[aussenseiter]

I know it pains you to consider viewpoints other than your own, but I am asking you to do that.

I can't agree with a very poorly done goon photoshop, sorry.

[Hasbinbad]

Is this intended as parody?
in fairness, the "socialists" placement is probably a bit parodical.

[unsunghero]

Probably so much argument because it’s hard to pigeonhole people’s complex and many-faceted viewpoints into a single term

[Hasbinbad]

Probably so much argument because it’s hard to pigeonhole people’s complex and many-faceted viewpoints into a single term
argument about what?

[unsunghero]

argument about what?

Left, Right, Liberal, etc

I personally don’t get so hung up on the definitions. The parties are too complex for a single term. Sort of like asking “what is the one thing driving that behavior?” And the answer is “no”

[Hasbinbad]

Left, Right, Liberal, etc

I personally don’t get so hung up on the definitions. The parties are too complex for a single term. Sort of like asking “what is the one thing driving that behavior?” And the answer is “no”
I'm actually not interested in a definitional argument, but rather I am talking about a specific group of people (american democrats and adjacent) and their relative place on the political spectrum (left to right).

There is a very pink elephant in most of these rooms whose name is "Liberal." Liberal says that it is "left." Conservative also says Liberal is left. Their agreement makes them very comfortable, tho they are wrong. Constantly framing the democrat as "left" has made it feel true, but it is only a feeling.

Search your heart, you know this to be true. Even Carter, the most libbiest of libs, and sanders, the most socialiest of democrats, both tacitly cosign for capitalism, which makes them fucking pigdogs.

[unsunghero]

I admit I am fairly dumb when it comes to economics. Not rich either, make about 60-65k a year, have a mortgage on my home I own, car loan, the whole 9 yards

But I personally don’t hate capitalism. I don’t see wealth as some zero sum game, don’t think every rich person got there by stealing the poor’s money, etc. I’m just willingly naive to the insidious evils I guess

That being said, anti-capitalism hate is pretty well-received here from what I’ve seen. Usually not by people who are well-off financially, but that’s just from my observation, not making judgement statement

[Hasbinbad]

I admit I am fairly dumb when it comes to economics. Not rich either, make about 60-65k a year, have a mortgage on my home I own, car loan, the whole 9 yards

But I personally don’t hate capitalism. I don’t see wealth as some zero sum game, don’t think every rich person got there by stealing the poor’s money, etc. I’m just willingly naive to the insidious evils I guess

That being said, anti-capitalism hate is pretty well-received here from what I’ve seen. Usually not by people who are well-off financially, but that’s just from my observation, not making judgement statement
Sure, it works to give some people a lifestyle that allows them to ignore the pain of lots of others.

But what happens if The Others come for your lifestyle? and/or your meat?

https://i.imgur.com/QLpcknr.jpg

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

argument about what?


The timeless problem
https://i.imgur.com/WIvXO6R.jpg

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

And by the way I like how the anti-democracy "we are doomed" people are either silent, or suddenly quite broad-minded in their thinking.


Shitposting just is dead. Soon enough, it will be so easy to flood or churn in bot posts that forumquest may be about to die.



That is correct Aussenseiter.


No exceptions.

[aussenseiter]

I admit I am fairly dumb when it comes to economics. Not rich either, make about 60-65k a year, have a mortgage on my home I own, car loan, the whole 9 yards

But I personally don’t hate capitalism. I don’t see wealth as some zero sum game, don’t think every rich person got there by stealing the poor’s money, etc. I’m just willingly naive to the insidious evils I guess

That being said, anti-capitalism hate is pretty well-received here from what I’ve seen. Usually not by people who are well-off financially, but that’s just from my observation, not making judgement statement

You're doing a lot better than any of us would under a command or planned economy.

Goddamn commie fascists in elftown.

[Trexller]

Like Shane says, there is a funniest instance of everything: https://youtu.be/zKUpf1Vx0vs?t=1698, but that doesn't make a school shooting funny.

Awesome stand up bit

Trexeller, your impotent attempt to deflect from your inability to speak for yourself, while pretty, and likely the best spam I've ever seen, is still just useless spam

sometimes words are insufficient

https://cdn.britannica.com/55/174255-050-526314B6/brown-Guernsey-cow.jpg

[Hasbinbad]

Awesome stand up bit
Shane is the libkiller you do not deserve. Which is hilarious, because he is clearly not a rightist. I think he is just funny. A rarity.
sometimes words are insufficient
I feel like you find words insufficient a lot.

Are you sure it is the words that are insufficient, or could it possibly be that you're not great at using them?

[Trexller]

Are you sure it is the words that are insufficient, or could it possibly be that you're not great at using them?

Because of inquisitively apologise humor, baths can't moan! basket, I open what the insanity would be like if skunks could imagine sweetly...

cats idea hungrily fatally bananna is a hotdog well-to-do doe pleasure disagree gazelle evenly pig is purple hat doe unsteady immediately interfere joshingly persimmon is flesh emu dog tail trade promptly toys minute is a hotdog telephone sadly!

[Hasbinbad]

I'm possibly having a stroke, LIFE-ALERT HELP! I'VE FALLEN AND I CAN'T GET UP!
Now that I understand your difficulties, I'll back off from making fun of you. It's just not right.

[Trexller]

Now that I understand your difficulties, I'll back off from making fun of you. It's just not right.

coward

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

But I personally think doing it is to fill some self-esteem void or to feel like one is following a higher purpose in a world falling away from religion



Look, I thought of a way to maybe get through to you. Your observation has empirical data to support it.



Here is the simple formula. People have replaced religion with politics. This has good and bad consequences, and neutral consequences.



When you accuse the left of using politics, and you yourself discuss and are clearly "invested" in politics, it proves your point more than you perhaps would like. For you too are falling away, invested not in God but man. Politics.



I'm a heathen with nothing to lose. That means unlike people who believe they immortal, time is a naturally scarce resource. A bunch of chuckleheads screaming for pronouns and bathroom access, or guns and God, is not nearly as fun as nearly anything else in life except perhaps anal prolapse. You got that prolapse draggin behind you, ain't gonna get no crack even if you say please.

[Hasbinbad]

politics is still just religion.

it's about control. no king ever really believed in jesus magic, but you behave better (produce more [not you the person, but you the serfs {in aggregate}]) if you think he does.

[Ooloo]

I remember hasbinbad he was a rogue in IB in like 2009. He seemed like a huge dickhead

[Chortles Snortles]

hi gayler
(lol)

[unsunghero]

Look, I thought of a way to maybe get through to you. Your observation has empirical data to support it.



Here is the simple formula. People have replaced religion with politics. This has good and bad consequences, and neutral consequences.



When you accuse the left of using politics, and you yourself discuss and are clearly "invested" in politics, it proves your point more than you perhaps would like. For you too are falling away, invested not in God but man. Politics.



I'm a heathen with nothing to lose. That means unlike people who believe they immortal, time is a naturally scarce resource. A bunch of chuckleheads screaming for pronouns and bathroom access, or guns and God, is not nearly as fun as nearly anything else in life except perhaps anal prolapse. You got that prolapse draggin behind you, ain't gonna get no crack even if you say please.

It’s a matter of how we incorporate our investment in politics into how we see ourselves

The left, as I see it, like to incorporate a sense of moral superiority into their personal sense of self-worth. They get that moral superiority by using an “oppression index” type of hierarchy given to them by propagandists to decide which intersectional group has it the worst in America, then focusing on helping those going from the most disadvantaged up while simultaneously pretending that resources are infinite. Sort of like how Jon Stewart one time sarcastically commented “free money and unicorns for everyone!” or something to that nature

The big change in the last decade or so is the left has stopped giving a fuck about any right wing, whether that’s a poor or a black right wing person, etc. If they’re right wing, fuck them, they’re the enemy. So their altruism comes across as hollow in my mind. A true saint would be willing to forgive and care for literally everyone (maybe barring the most extreme outliers)

How I am like the right is I don’t mind telling people “no”, or admitting that some people might just be completely fucked by circumstance. I wouldn’t say it’s that I don’t care, but maybe that I don’t care enough, or that I am too much of a realist

I have no problem taking the moral lowground. I am the person on the lifeboat pushing people back with the oars, because if too many people climbed on, the entire boat goes down and everyone drowns. The left doesn’t want people like me, but any system with limited resources NEEDS people like me to tell someone “sorry, you might just be fucked”. And yes, maybe one day that fucked person would be me too

But yes, you are correct that I am not all that religious. Although I don’t see politics as my “replacement” religion, because like I said, I take the moral lowground in a lot of areas, politically

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

I remember hasbinbad he was a rogue in IB in like 2009. He seemed like a huge dickhead


https://i.imgur.com/fQWaQDA.jpg

[Hasbinbad]

seemed

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Look, you can either trust me, or I can explain how I've kind of left that building so, to speak.


I got you. And I'm with you. Hope you don't mind I condensed it. People can click up.


I do not even go to any forums or reddits that are almost completely dominated by people doing the neo-puritan shuffle. If there is anti-fun, I think I've seen it. I worked in a profession dominated by it. So. enough said about that.


The reaction to this has been straight out of American History X opportunism theory. That's been in the gaming world a lot. Maybe its fading.



---------------



Meanwhile, I love the fact that every night when I go to sleep, the 7th fleet is just waking up.... Maybe the common thread is, people who think the world is ending are simply wrong. Things are relatively superb, because that's post-war order 101. Which is still in session. As for justice? Justice is always slow, and I study history. The US is part of a wide range of countries making very excellent decisions for the good, for a while now, if you grant some chill in your timescale.



tl;dr 80 years ago: Japan is nuked. Today: Japan is one of our buddies. Verdict: I think I'm optimistic about the future.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

And yes, this is where that little Swedish "The Scowling Brownie" Greta Thunberg is lots of fun.


Perhaps The Angry Brownie is angry about the truth. But unless the species has gone batty, we'll develop technological and political solutions that will more or less weather the coming decades. Yes, it sucks to live in a river delta country like Bangladesh, it always has sucked to live in a river delta country like Bangladesh.


As we explore other planets around other stars, we shall discover life always sucks in river delta countries like Bangladesh. Fuckin A.


My point is, Greta better stop and get a more adult take when she gets past her early 20's or she's just creepy. "The Ancient Angry Brownie." Rare spawn, drops a wooden club. Use it to hit things, ancient angry brownie sez. Quest item. No trade.

[unsunghero]

tl;dr 80 years ago: Japan is nuked. Today: Japan is one of our buddies. Verdict: I think I'm optimistic about the future.

I am as well :)

[aussenseiter]

I got you. And I'm with you. Hope you don't mind I condensed it. People can click up.


I do not even go to any forums or reddits that are almost completely dominated by people doing the neo-puritan shuffle. If there is anti-fun, I think I've seen it. I worked in a profession dominated by it. So. enough said about that.


The reaction to this has been straight out of American History X opportunism theory. That's been in the gaming world a lot. Maybe its fading.



---------------



Meanwhile, I love the fact that every night when I go to sleep, the 7th fleet is just waking up.... Maybe the common thread is, people who think the world is ending are simply wrong. Things are relatively superb, because that's post-war order 101. Which is still in session. As for justice? Justice is always slow, and I study history. The US is part of a wide range of countries making very excellent decisions for the good, for a while now, if you grant some chill in your timescale.



tl;dr 80 years ago: Japan is nuked. Today: Japan is one of our buddies. Verdict: I think I'm optimistic about the future.

USA experienced the height of its economic prosperity immediately following the Nuking of Japan.

Make of that what you will.

[Trexller]

USA experienced the height of its economic prosperity immediately following the Nuking of Japan.

Make of that what you will.

it had alot more to do with the fact that after WW2 the USA owned the largest and most powerful navy that ever sailed the high seas, and used that navy to patrol shipping lanes to prevent piracy and other bad actors which enabled the global scales of economic trade and prosperity that built the modern world

once things settled down a bit, every nation that mattered built a navy which could guarantee their trade security and the US took a lesser role toward the 60's/70s

[aussenseiter]

it had alot more to do with the fact that after WW2 the USA owned the largest and most powerful navy that ever sailed the high seas, and used that navy to patrol shipping lanes to prevent piracy and other bad actors which enabled the global scales of economic trade and prosperity that built the modern world

once things settled down a bit, every nation that mattered built a navy which could guarantee their trade security and the US took a lesser role toward the 60's/70s

Can we at least try it?

[Trexller]

Can we at least try it?

nuking japan again? I dunno they really seem like they enjoy being allies and a top economic power, and the rate at which they are rebuilding their military is gonna take alot off of our hands when China moves on Taiwan.

I feel like hitting iran's entire military with tactical warheads, we dont need huge population casualties to kill off their ruling elite. and then the entire middle east will STFU for awhile again.

gonna need to do something soon here or shits gonna get real, US military barely has a skeleton crew in the region and without our influence all those crazy muslims are gonna march on each other because they don't believe in Allah the right way.

they only got like 50 years of light crude left so it won't be much of a big deal if we lose those fields for awhile, wells will even refill slightly if we stop pumping them for a few decades.

[Hasbinbad]

USA experienced the height of its economic prosperity immediately following the Nuking of Japan.

Make of that what you will.

Google, tell me about tax rates post ww2.

"Following World War II tax increases, top marginal individual tax rates stayed near or above 90%, and the effective tax rate at 70% for the highest incomes (few paid the top rate), until 1964 when the top marginal tax rate was lowered to 70%"

[Hasbinbad]

Google, tell me about tax rates now.

"The federal income tax rates remain unchanged for the 2022 and 2023 tax years are 10%, 12%, 22%, 24%, 32%, 35% and 37%. The income thresholds for each bracket, though, are adjusted slightly every year for inflation."

[Hasbinbad]

Google, tell me about billionaires not paying taxes.

"They did it in part by avoiding selling off their vast holdings of stock. The U.S. system taxes income. Selling stock generates income, so they avoid income as the system defines it. Meanwhile, billionaires can tap into their wealth by borrowing against it."

[Hasbinbad]

Funny how many times you rights can look like you're about to run straight into facts and yet turn away at the last second every time.

Like a cat landing on its feet.

[aussenseiter]

Google, tell me about tax rates post ww2.

"Following World War II tax increases, top marginal individual tax rates stayed near or above 90%, and the effective tax rate at 70% for the highest incomes (few paid the top rate), until 1964 when the top marginal tax rate was lowered to 70%"

https://i.imgur.com/ynLFrNG.png

[Chortles Snortles]

https://i.imgur.com/QONLEFR.png

[goblinmob]

dat dude gotta BOOT for a nose!

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Most your reserve capital belongs to US.


https://www.visualcapitalist.com/cp/how-reserve-currencies-evolved-over-120-years/

[Ooloo]

Funny how many times you rights can look like you're about to run straight into facts and yet turn away at the last second every time.

Like a cat landing on its feet.

Even a lower tax rate on a billionaire generates like 1000x as much money, plus they also employ and bankroll thousands of people, which they can't if you just arbitrarily take all their money you doofus

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

capitalism works unless you just arbitrarily take all their money you doofus


that's pure clarification, I simplified your point. Made it sharp and clear.


So, who is arguing for this?

[aussenseiter]

Even a lower tax rate on a billionaire generates like 1000x as much money, plus they also employ and bankroll thousands of people, which they can't if you just arbitrarily take all their money you doofus

https://fee.org/media/27411/laffercurvegraph.png

that's pure clarification, I simplified your point. Made it sharp and clear.


So, who is arguing for this?

Internet tells people they pay 'less' tax than a billionaire, it's a sleight of hand to get them on board with wealth seizure(stealing).

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Quantity words.
None - couple - few- several -some - many - innumerable - all


Frequency words.
Never - rarely/seldom - sometimes - often - always


Probability words.
Impossible - unlikely/improbable - possible - likely/probable - necessary


Location words.
Nowhere - hardly anywhere - somewhere - almost anyplace - everywhere


Process / event words.
not yet started - starting - started - happening - ending - ended - later


Time words (subjective).

Forgotten - memory - recently - now/today - soon - hope - forgetting


Enchanter words.
Unpleasant - popular - part of holy trinity - insulting epic - narrowing raid utility - pet buffed gtg - unpleasant

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Internet tells people they pay 'less' tax than a billionaire, it's a sleight of hand to get them on board with wealth seizure(stealing).


I had simplified statement made by Ooloo. My simplification: "capitalism works unless you just arbitrarily take all their money you doofus." Ooloo's orginal: "Even a lower tax rate on a billionaire generates like 1000x as much money, plus they also employ and bankroll thousands of people, which they can't if you just arbitrarily take all their money you doofus."


You are a panic ringer, I see: "Internet tells people they pay 'less' tax than a billionaire, it's a sleight of hand to get them on board with wealth seizure(stealing)."

Listen closely: that is not how this works. And, you can't bury my question. Who is arguing to arbitrarily take, or otherwise "seize" capital?


Rodger's rules of gambling needed to be recalled a while back for you, Aussen. Who is arguing for an arbitrary system of seizure? Who is tring to destroy how capitalism works? This would require significant structural change not only domestically, but in the entire global order, and would instantly plunge the world into immediate "currency vaporization" due to the fact we are talking about fiat capital. All the world's currency are fiat. You destroy what makes that currency worth something -- the capitalist system -- everything is over.


So who are these insane people? Who is currently wishing for the Western currency system to collapse?

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

..Rodger's rules of gambling..
typo and it stays.

[aussenseiter]

Listen closely: that is not how this works. And, you can't bury my question. Who is arguing to arbitrarily take, or otherwise "seize" capital?


Rodger's rules of gambling needed to be recalled a while back for you, Aussen. Who is arguing for an arbitrary system of seizure? Who is tring to destroy how capitalism works? This would require significant structural change not only domestically, but in the entire global order, and would instantly plunge the world into immediate "currency vaporization" due to the fact we are talking about fiat capital. All the world's currency are fiat. You destroy what makes that currency worth something -- the capitalist system -- everything is over.


So who are these insane people? Who is currently wishing for the Western currency system to collapse?

I feel like you are tricking me into posting this but fine I'll get tricked.

The specifics of that billionaire tax were revealed in this budget: a 25 percent tax on all wealth over $100 million, estimated to apply to just 0.01 percent of Americans.

It also proposes levying an unrealized capital gains tax for the first time in US history. (https://www.vox.com/money/23634085/biden-2024-budget-billionaire-tax-capital-gains)

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

A law is the opposite of arbitrary.



How do you propose we pay for the 7th Fleet? Is that, too, not part of this engine? How do you pay for the power of the state, which alone correlates to the currency value in a fiat system?



Who pays for the power, that makes the wealth mean anything? You aren't doing an analysis with all the variables. You're externalizing the cost of being a superpower.


And making some wheezing talking point my grandad used to make about "class wars!" and stuff that simply never amounts to much, or at least nothing compared to what would happen if the current power order of the world were to go another direction. Which, that is what you pay for: power strong enough to make sure things don't.


The wealthy never internalize the cost differential of being a billionaire in the western banking system, vs being in say, the Democratic Republic of Congo's banking system.


They have an open lifetime reservation to the best restaurant in town, and complain when the prices are raised.


Well, move your wealth! The DRC is working on a fleet, I'm sure.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

And yes, that was the trap. I got you to mention a law.

[aussenseiter]

A law is the opposite of arbitrary.



How do you propose we pay for the 7th Fleet? Is that, too, not part of this engine? How do you pay for the power of the state, which alone correlates to the currency value in a fiat system?



Who pays for the power, that makes the wealth mean anything? You aren't doing an analysis with all the variables. You're externalizing the cost of being a superpower.


And making some wheezing talking point my grandad used to make about "class wars!" and stuff that simply never amounts to much, or at least nothing compared to what would happen if the current power order of the world were to go another direction. Which, that is what you pay for: power strong enough to make sure things don't.


The wealthy never internalize the cost differential of being a billionaire in the western banking system, vs being in say, the Democratic Republic of Congo's banking system.


They have an open lifetime reservation to the best restaurant in town, and complain when the prices are raised.


Well, move your wealth! The DRC is working on a fleet, I'm sure.

And yes, that was the trap. I got you to mention a law.

What changed that we need the novel taking?

Your point about the DRC is well-taken, they did nationalize wealth somewhat.

[Chortles Snortles]

i am a very smart poster in case you can’t tell
(lol)

[aussenseiter]

i am a very smart poster in case you can’t tell
(lol)

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/038/449/cover1.jpg

[Chortles Snortles]

got em