Communism is a hit!

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Historically communism begins with a process identical to the kind of looting and pillaging you see in any societal collapse. Communism as a political movement is distinguished from generic societal collapse, because it invents some form of government that allows looting and pillaging to become broad-based social, economic, and legal policy.


Let me hear your feel-good communism story. I know you gotta have at least ... like a dozen!!

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Sir, I'm just checking to make sure you know, all those Oreo's you just ate each had a half gram of RSO creme in place of the normal creme?

[Toxigen]

https://i.imgur.com/DTQi6f2.jpg

[Garnaak]

I think you have your economic systems confused. Capitalism and the Imperialism that accompanies it is what you describe.

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Viva la revolución!

☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭

[Jobaber]

yes the sheep herder owning his own sheep and not being forced to herd community sheep in gigantic pens is evil.

[Garnaak]

USA! Chud talking about the evils of communism, while he is living upon stolen lands of a genocided people, with infrastructure built by slaves.

[Basanos]

USSR beating the capitalist pigs in the west to nearly all space milestones despite their clusterfuck of resource management and feudalist leftovers has always tickled me pink

I hope the Chinese force us into a similar race but they aren't even really commies anymore

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

https://i.imgur.com/tJ9wd45.jpg

[aussenseiter]

USA! Chud talking about the evils of communism, while he is living upon stolen lands of a genocided people, with infrastructure built by slaves.

Vae victis.

[Jobaber]

Us soil was stolen alright, from Jesus.

n3BqLZ8UoZk

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Many religious communities aspire to communist practices. No ownership is the biggie, see. No private ownership of a "means of collective production." So like a monastery. Everything not "personal" is collective property organized around a collective goal.

[Jobaber]

Communism is to community what the Vatican is to religion.

[Trexller]

with infrastructure built by slaves.

really?

slaves built the electrical grid, interstate highway system, and installed the pipes that bring water to/from your house?

did slaves also lay your fiber cable? did slaves put the satellites you rely on into orbit?

No, none of that.

but Uyghur slaves in china DID produce the cotton you are wearing, and they made your smartphone and computer components that you use to bitch about americans

[Basanos]

but Uyghur slaves in china DID produce the cotton you are wearing, and they made your smartphone and computer components that you use to bitch about americansWhat system of economics are those factories operating under?

[Garnaak]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d2/81/fc/d281fc146732dc3a5d16e6a0607bf861.jpg

[Trexller]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d2/81/fc/d281fc146732dc3a5d16e6a0607bf861.jpg

infrastructure built by slaves.

[Garnaak]

but Uyghur slaves in china DID produce the cotton you are wearing, and they made your smartphone and computer components that you use to bitch about americans

Damn. And here I thought purchasing from US companies would benefit the US workers making those products? Oh. Wait.

FYI, Uyghur salves in China is a myth created by western capitalists, whose power over the global system is fading fast.

[Trexller]

What system of economics are those factories operating under?

Socialism with Chinese characteristics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism_with_Chinese_characteristics)

[Trexller]

FYI, Uyghur salves in China is a myth created by western capitalists, whose power over the global system is fading fast.

^ what a dumbass

The Department of Labor's (DOL) research utilized published victims' testimonies, and media and think tank reports, to determine the various industries implicated in this system of forced labor.

https://www.dol.gov/agencies/ilab/against-their-will-the-situation-in-xinjiang

Minorities in China’s Xinjiang region are forced to work against their will and face physical and sexual violence and “other inhuman or degrading treatment” in what may constitute a modern form of slavery

https://www.rfa.org/english/news/uyghur/modern-slavery-08162022190324.html

Much of the world’s cotton comes from the Uyghur region, where the Chinese government is ethnically cleansing its Muslim minority

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/apr/09/cotton-slave-labor-uyghur-region-china

83 major brands implicated in report on forced labour of ethnic minorities from Xinjiang assigned to factories across provinces

https://www.business-humanrights.org/en/latest-news/china-83-major-brands-implicated-in-report-on-forced-labour-of-ethnic-minorities-from-xinjiang-assigned-to-factories-across-provinces-includes-company-responses/

Independent investigations from agencies all over the world are all capitalist pawns? Got it.

https://i.imgur.com/Kati7Xb.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/GhVBm1m.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/IOnnQqo.jpeg

Are you actually that fuckin stupid, or are you just trying to get an early start on your social credit score?

[Garnaak]

... buncha stuff published by western financed orgs. ...

^^ Thinks this disproves my statement that it is western propaganda.

/facepalm

[Trexller]

^^ Thinks this disproves my statement that it is western propaganda.

/facepalm

^ rejects reality, substitutes his own

[Horza]

FYI, Uyghur salves in China is a myth created by western capitalists, whose power over the global system is fading fast.

I'm starting to think maybe all these social media apps and TikToks aren't such a great idea :p

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

USA! Chud talking about the evils of communism, while he is living upon stolen lands of a genocided people, with infrastructure built by slaves.


Masterful derail so far. Some people have skills.

[Garnaak]

Masterful derail so far. Some people have skills.

<3

[Trexller]

what derail?

3 pages of communism discussion, no other topic broached

you even have horza piping up somehow anti-communist

[Garnaak]

what derail?

3 pages of communism discussion, no other topic broached

you even have horza piping up somehow anti-communist

Possibly because a few pro-commie peeps interjected. Just a guess.

[aussenseiter]

Damn. And here I thought purchasing from US companies would benefit the US workers making those products? Oh. Wait.

Don’t ‘Buy American’ (https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2023/02/buy-american-joe-biden-free-trade-industrial-policy-supply-chain/672977/)

[Chortles Snortles]

pseudo intellectual thread
(lol)

[aussenseiter]

pseudo intellectual thread
(lol)

https://i.imgur.com/JzgGVL9.png

[Chortles Snortles]

cringerino

[Basanos]

what derail?

3 pages of communism discussion, no other topic broached

you even have horza piping up somehow anti-communistLiberals are better at keeping us away from power than conservatives are

[Trexller]

as if there is power left to share lol

the 1% has an absolute death grip on global influence

if power ever changes hands, it's only between members of this very select group

for the average person, it makes no difference whos turn it is to wield influence.

[Basanos]

as if there is power left to share lol

the 1% has an absolute death grip on global influence

if power ever changes hands, it's only between members of this very select group

for the average person, it makes no difference whos turn it is to wield influence.Give up if you want, negative nancy

[Jobaber]

Trust the science: The cotton Gin is the way of the future!

[Trexller]

negative nancy

living in a comfortable little bubble serves no pragmatic purpose. sure your wine, netflix and slanket are comfy, but in the long run they will make you slow, fat and dim-witted.

ppl in power aren't going to give it up willingly, in fact they will burn the entire planet before relinquishing their influence. "if i cant have it, then no one can" on a global scale.

behind any military conflict that makes no sense geopolitically, and even most that do make sense, there is a small group of ultra-wealthy people who can't figure out how to get along with each other.

[aussenseiter]

Trust the science: The cotton Gin is the way of the future!

Too dark you made me sad now :*(

[Jobaber]

Give up if you want, negative nancy

your ideal is to disarm the population.

and then have a economic collapse.

like, who do you think will be in charge after that?

[Basanos]

Yeah I am sure you live in a mud hut in the woods, but with internet

All of what you have said is true, but it doesn't change if we give up and do nothing. There would still be (more) monarchs if everyone did that

[Basanos]

your ideal is to disarm the population.

and then have a economic collapse.

like, who do you think will be in charge after that?Find a post of mine where I say to disarm anyone

[Jobaber]

Find a post of mine where I say to disarm anyone

You're telling me there isn't a correlation between access to guns and school shootings, or you just think school shootings are an acceptable consequence of maintaining the 2nd amendment and it's up to the gun owner to be educated?

[Basanos]

You're telling me there isn't a correlation between access to guns and school shootings, or you just think school shootings are an acceptable consequence of maintaining the 2nd amendment and it's up to the gun owner to be educated?I don't know.

[Skarne]

You're telling me there isn't a correlation between access to guns and school shootings, or you just think school shootings are an acceptable consequence of maintaining the 2nd amendment and it's up to the gun owner to be educated?

Jobbie you can want better gun control laws and still support the 2nd amendment

[Jobaber]

gun control

that's called disarming people.

[Basanos]

In the way that the drinking age is 21 and we are therefore drying out those under 21, maybe.

[Skarne]

that's called disarming people.

?? No man it’s called better background checks and maybe an age increase to buy. I don’t agree with retroactively taking guns unless it’s from convicted violent felons.

[aussenseiter]

Jobbie you can want better gun control laws and still support the 2nd amendment

Heller says no. Go bugger the climate.

[Skarne]

Heller says no. Go bugger the climate.

But I do so you can

[Trexller]

How did things go for these guys?

https://i.imgur.com/rzWdgWe.jpeg

[Jobaber]

goverment threw a guy to prison for walking through open doors and wearing a bison hat and you think Im going to be ok with them doing a background check on people?

[Trexller]

sometimes it's your own fault for getting yourself noticed, a guy like Qanon shaman has to face consequences for his crime of merely existing at the wrong place/time, because otherwise the sitting admin looks like a candy ass bitch, which they are, but that doesn't play well politically.

I'm a firm believer in the Dark Forest Hypothesis

[Skarne]

goverment threw a guy to prison for walking through open doors and wearing a bison hat and you think Im going to be ok with them doing a background check on people?

Not my intention to convince ne1

[aussenseiter]

sometimes it's your own fault for getting yourself noticed, a guy like Qanon shaman has to face consequences for his crime of merely existing at the wrong place/time, because otherwise the sitting admin looks like a candy ass bitch, which they are, but that doesn't play well politically.

I'm a firm believer in the Dark Forest Hypothesis

I agree Tromp a candy ass jabroni.

[Trexller]

I agree Tromp a candy ass jabroni.

im not fan, just sayin trump would eviscerate biden in a fist-fight

trump would fight dirty, shots to the throat/groin, throwing sand etc

biden would be unconscious before he realized that this isn't old country buffet

[aussenseiter]

im not fan, just sayin trump would eviscerate biden in a fist-fight

trump would fight dirty, shots to the throat/groin, throwing sand etc

biden would be unconscious before he realized that this isn't old country buffet

Tromp was President during the January 6th Insurrection. His troops killed Ashli Babbit.

[Trexller]

Tromp was President during the January 6th Insurrection. His troops killed Ashli Babbit.

who really gives a fuck? honestly?

i was thinkin about a 1v1 match trump vs. biden

this is how real men solve their problems, just that very few of you have ever known a real man, let alone be raised by one.

thats right, i called your dad a pussy.

[aussenseiter]

who really gives a fuck? honestly?

i was thinkin about a 1v1 match trump vs. biden

this is how real men solve their problems, just that very few of you have ever known a real man, let alone be raised by one.

thats right, i called your dad a pussy.

I do not wish to fight you, because the pen is mightier than the sword. :cool:

[Trexller]

I do not wish to fight you, because the pen is mightier than the sword. :cool:

it isn't tho

that's just another way of saying, "Fuck man im tired of all this fighting, lets just sign a treaty and go home"

then someone detonates a bomb at the treaty signing

peace by agreement is never, ever as strong as peace by fear

it just plays better in the collective mind.

Ukraine gave up their legacy nuclear weapons back to russia in 1994, how has that worked out for them?

if you believe otherwise, then when you get mugged in the street, you deserved earned that.

[aussenseiter]

it isn't tho

that's just another way of saying, "Fuck man im tired of all this fighting, lets just sign a treaty and go home"

then someone detonates a bomb at the treaty signing

peace by agreement is never, ever as strong as peace by fear

it just plays better in the collective mind.

Ukraine gave up their legacy nuclear weapons back to russia in 1994, how has that worked out for them?

if you believe otherwise, then when you get mugged in the street, you deserved earned that.

Pens write states into existence and out of it. Swords may follow but they cannot lead.

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[Basanos]

who really gives a fuck? honestly?

i was thinkin about a 1v1 match trump vs. biden

this is how real men solve their problems, just that very few of you have ever known a real man, let alone be raised by one.

thats right, i called your dad a pussy.Grown man thinks and acts like teenager

Not shocked

[Trexller]

Pens write states into existence and out of it. Swords may follow but they cannot lead.

armies guarantee sovereignty

without an army, all you got is calligraphy on toilet paper.

in fact, if you cannot guarantee your own sovereignty, the UN will not recognize your statehood. This is one of the UN's statehood requirements.

"The Pen" only makes official what the military already did.

[aussenseiter]

armies guarantee sovereignty

without an army, all you got is calligraphy on toilet paper.

in fact, if you cannot guarantee your own sovereignty, the UN will not recognize your statehood. This is one of the UN's statehood requirements.

"The Pen" only makes official what the military already did.

Armies do not guarantee sovereignty. Armies can lose.

[Trexller]

Armies do not guarantee sovereignty. Armies can lose.

I know that you aren't this dumb

[aussenseiter]

I know that you aren't this dumb

Holy Russia is bleeding to death.

Ukraine is spending about a mil a day. Russia is spending about 20 mil a day.

[Jimjam]

Armies do not guarantee sovereignty. Armies can lose.

Exactly. So much granular thinking here ‘this one thing is the magic solution’ when clearly things are more complicated than that.

We can see from case studies that an army is useful, but as you say it is no guarantee. Both Ukraine now and the American Independence would be nowhere without the diplomatic support of outside super powers (the West in the first instance, imperial France in the second).

On a state/national level if America were to collapse (it won’t - some of the institutions are too powerful to allow full on collapse) whoever comes put on top won’t be some local farmer with a gun it will be whoever can levy the best support from outside forces (Nato, China, etc).

Just imo as a badly informed outsider :)

[Jobaber]

Jimjam, I want to buy your rock.

[Jimjam]

Idk if you’re saying i am based with stable foundation or i’m detached from reality smoking crystals.

Eother way you’re welcome to share ��.

[Jobaber]

Idk if you’re saying i am based with stable foundation or i’m detached from reality smoking crystals.

Eother way you’re welcome to share ��.

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[Jobaber]

You seem to have a magic solution. :o

[Jimjam]

:D

[Toxigen]

yoo vill eat ze bugs

[Jimjam]

yoo vill eat ze bugs

Nah I don’t like sea food. Except the occasional fish.

[goblinmob]

It's ok to eat fish

[Ekco]

they canceled king crab season this year, you won't even get the tasty bugs.

[magnetaress]

I do not think people should be free. They can't think for themselves. And they make foolish decisions that destroy their own lives and the planet.

I'm all for a 10 commandments bible communism.

[Elizondo]

Communism ... lol

Ideology for unemployed Starbucks nerds

[Basanos]

Communism ... lol

Ideology for unemployed Starbucks nerdsThis person believes the Earth is 6,000 years old and that dinosaurs are all hoaxes

[Elizondo]

21148

[Patriam1066]

Damn. And here I thought purchasing from US companies would benefit the US workers making those products? Oh. Wait.

FYI, Uyghur salves in China is a myth created by western capitalists, whose power over the global system is fading fast.

Not a myth. You are an islamophobe and dumb

[Patriam1066]

^^ Thinks this disproves my statement that it is western propaganda.

/facepalm

Spotted the confucius institute interloper

These people are everywhere, double check anything an Asian tells you

[Basanos]

21148Lmao he isn't even denying it. Let's try another one of these bored and powerless reactionaries.

yoo vill eat ze bugsThis person is a brazen racist, anti-semite, and self-admitted fascist. Also, in the gender reassignment gulag, his diet will be 100% soybeans and insects

[Elizondo]

Total degenerate unemployed loser that neglects his cancer stricken wife to post on elf forums all day wants to legalize kid porn

Also thinks Communism is awesome

Comedy ensues

[Patriam1066]

Confucius Institute Dogeater Grunaak yellowwashes genocide in Xinjiang while whining about events 400 years ago

Future comedy ensues (India and US nuking China)

[Ekco]

This person is a brazen racist, anti-semite, and self-admitted fascist.

https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.1a00c8df620816ac4d0aee02ca4e4204?rik=9Mg1nprjvhj 97Q&riu=http%3a%2f%2fwww.reactiongifs.com%2fr%2f2013%2 f11%2fColin-Farrell-Shrug-In-Bruges.gif&ehk=cOAbfaRIVnnnDVFum%2f3upiCEpLitgrZcYsQmfTNYQZE% 3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0

my new theory is he isn't. he just enjoys trolling a mentally ill commie for entertainment.

[Patrece]

21148

Not surprised at all.

This is what total demoralization does to a clown.

[Horza]

https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.1a00c8df620816ac4d0aee02ca4e4204?rik=9Mg1nprjvhj 97Q&riu=http%3a%2f%2fwww.reactiongifs.com%2fr%2f2013%2 f11%2fColin-Farrell-Shrug-In-Bruges.gif&ehk=cOAbfaRIVnnnDVFum%2f3upiCEpLitgrZcYsQmfTNYQZE% 3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0

my new theory is he isn't. he just enjoys trolling a mentally ill commie for entertainment.

Nah, he got kicked out his guild for being such a big racist even Vanquish couldn't handle it.

[Patrece]

SVB, the nations 16th largest bank, went woke and completely collapsed within 3 years of doing the diversity equity inclusion stuff

To the tune of 100 billion in destruction

This one's turning into something as bad as Obama lol


Fun fact I got my current job by saying I liked that the company was "inclusive" and was offered 15k a year more than I asked. Definitely lol.

[Patrece]

Nah, he got kicked out his guild for being such a big racist even Vanquish couldn't handle it.

He is aware of crime statistics and has read his history

That will definitely drive the wokes insane

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

https://i.imgur.com/JzgGVL9.png


The real fear most Americans have, is mathism. Because numbers won't shy, numbers don't lie, and numbers can't cry.


And being a shyster, a liar, or a crier -- that's the Holy Trinity of America.



So math leaves us feeling naked and terrified. God is dead, the people cry. God isn't dead, the liars respond. And "I smell money!" is what the shysters say.

[Patrece]

You can falsify ledgers, numbers can lie

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

And Patrece:



You are basically a walking proof that it is possible to think "communism" involves Human Resources departments being the vanguard of the globohomo agenda for world conquest, and yet still hold down a steady job.


You actually walked right into it, that's what is baffling to me. We were joking, this is what an idiot likely thinks, and speak of the devil, etc.


Is your game plan to provoke people by acting out the jokes people make about you? Damn man, that's the basement part of the club. I never go down there. They got piss tubs down there.

[Skarne]

Total degenerate unemployed loser that neglects his cancer stricken wife to post on elf forums all day wants to legalize kid porn

Also thinks Communism is awesome

Comedy ensues

You’re a real piece of shit, huh?

[Horza]

He is aware of crime statistics and has read his history

That will definitely drive the wokes insane

He got kicked out for saying that n word too much but if that's how you want to try to spin it go for it.

[Elizondo]

You’re a real piece of shit, huh?

21150

[Patrece]

LOL

Wait for the fallout of this Obama era repeat of a financial collapse with SVB

Lot of woke clowns are suffering, but will they continue to cling to the false narrative?

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Workers of the world unite.
You have nothing to lose except your binary concept of gender and other patriarchal structures.


TIL

[Trexller]

Workers of the world unite.
You have nothing to lose except your binary concept of gender and other patriarchal structures.

yeah these marxists believe that the failures of communism were on account of conventional societal matrices and nothing to do with the individual greed of the bourgeoisie

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

...but will they continue to cling to the false narrative?
https://i.imgur.com/mfk18Vh.jpg

[Elizondo]

Workers of the world unite.
You have nothing to lose except your binary concept of gender and other patriarchal structures.


TIL

Communism went from "Workers of the world unite" to mutilate the genitalia of little kids, legalize kid porn and the world gonna end in 10 years cuz Global Warming or something

[Patrece]

And kill whitey, don't forget

[Ekco]

kill whitey might even be the most important tenant.

[Trexller]

goddamn whitey

[Patrece]

Oh yeah the liberal part of whitey is a true shame upon our race

Least I can admit it

If only other communities would do more to denounce and expose their sizable factions of malignant or otherwise bad actors

Then maybe we'd see pals like Toxigen being thanked for their courage to speak out

[aussenseiter]

kill whitey might even be the most important tenant.

https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/150419105911-fast-facts-george-tenet.jpg

[Trexller]

https://i.imgur.com/gYEvY1i.jpg

[arvidez]

if repubs and dems were a romantic couple, who would is the pants?

[goblinmob]

When are pants will be is'd?

[Horza]

Communism went from "Workers of the world unite" to mutilate the genitalia of little kids, legalize kid porn and the world gonna end in 10 years cuz Global Warming or something

Communism is whatever the billionaires who own Fox News want you mouthbreathers watching Tucker five nights a week to think it is.

[Horza]

Oh yeah the liberal part of whitey is a true shame upon our race

Least I can admit it

If only other communities would do more to denounce and expose their sizable factions of malignant or otherwise bad actors

Then maybe we'd see pals like Toxigen being thanked for their courage to speak out

They thanked Toxigen by kicking him out of his guild :)

[Trexller]

Tucker

Everybody Drink!!

[Trexller]

They thanked Toxigen by kicking him out of his guild :)

who actually wants to hang out with loosey lefties anyway? even they don't like their own company.

among any group of libtards, the majority of them are just waiting for someone else within their group to say the wrong word, use the wrong pronoun etc then they can railroad that person, and make themselves feel morally superior to the other moral superiors thus achieving max level moral superiority.

[Basanos]

Oh yeah the liberal part of whitey is a true shame upon our race

Least I can admit it

If only other communities would do more to denounce and expose their sizable factions of malignant or otherwise bad actors

Then maybe we'd see pals like Toxigen being thanked for their courage to speak outVery funny, considering one of my main issues with "typical" conservatives is the deafening silence I always don't hear when Toxigen and Elizondo and you literally post pro-fascist, racist, homophobic, and transphobic content

In fact, that silence is here, now

[Basanos]

if repubs and dems were a romantic couple, who would is the pants?It's more like the marriage between Bill and Hillary and they are both stuffed into a single pants-suit

[Ekco]

you literally post pro-fascist, racist, homophobic, and transphobic content


it's pretty cool to see language evolve over such a short amount of time, those words used to actually mean things but now it just means "people i disagree with" i think the moment they overstepped is when they tried to argue dave chappelle's jokes weren't funny about trans people.

historians will look back at the failed attempt to him kicked off netflix as the moment the war was lost.

C2zai3Va9-c

[Trexller]

dang i hadn't thought about it like that

Dave Chappelle really did win the war that the queers started

[Patriam1066]

kill whitey might even be the most important tenant.

Tenet***

Come on mother fuckers it’s your language not mine

[Trexller]

im glad someone said it

the ocd is real

[Patriam1066]

https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/150419105911-fast-facts-george-tenet.jpg

This guy looks persian

[Patriam1066]

This guy looks persian

If I were uglier and had a hook nose and greasy ass wavy disgusting hair, that might be me

This guy is ugly, who is he and why did you post his hideous visage?

[Ekco]

Tenet***

Come on mother fuckers it’s your language not mine

FUCK.

[aussenseiter]

If I were uglier and had a hook nose and greasy ass wavy disgusting hair, that might be me

This guy is ugly, who is he and why did you post his hideous visage?

George Tenet. :)

[Ekco]

^ FUCK.

[Horza]

Very funny, considering one of my main issues with "typical" conservatives is the deafening silence I always don't hear when Toxigen and Elizondo and you literally post pro-fascist, racist, homophobic, and transphobic content

In fact, that silence is here, now

At least fascists like Toxigen and Elizondo are honest about their hatred for non-whites, I'd take that kind of integrity over a phony liberal who feels the same way but couches it in platitudes about how a rising tide lifts all ships or some bullshit.

[Basanos]

At least fascists like Toxigen and Elizondo are honest about their hatred for non-whites, I'd take that kind of integrity over a phony liberal who feels the same way but couches it in platitudes about how a rising tide lifts all ships or some bullshit.Remember this the next time you dismiss all the southern states as GOP shitholes despite the fact that millions of people who hate conservative bullshit live in them

[aussenseiter]

At least fascists like Toxigen and Elizondo

Those are penises, not fascists.

[Basanos]

Penises have uses, and some women like them. They cannot be penises.

[Valakut]

you guys should do less drugs and play everquest less

[Ooloo]

Literally nobody has any problem with non-white people. It's not 1920, seek therapy.

[Trexller]

you guys should do less drugs and play everquest less

https://imgur.com/SDMxwiy

[Horza]

Literally nobody has any problem with non-white people. It's not 1920, seek therapy.

Can't believe I forgot Baler on my list.

[goblinmob]

You won't BELIEVE what happened on monkey.app last night!

[Trexller]

https://i.imgur.com/Cw3gBlm.png

[Basanos]

Literally nobody has any problem with non-white people. It's not 1920, seek therapy.I am sure blanket denialism of racism does wonders in the pro-racism circles, but you and I both know you don't have the balls to tell this lie in person

[Elizondo]

Bug Eating Groomers like Horza pearl clutching their isms so badly

[Trexller]

I've never met anyone who was a racist as described by libtards, never met anyone who had a blanket hatred for a particular group.

I've met people who were robbed or raped or beaten or vandalized or even murdered by one of your "interest groups" when you hear these stories, and talk to these victims, you notice an undeniable pattern.

it's a pattern that absolutely will not be useful for your self-pat-on-the-back libtard ideologies.

it's a pattern that makes you look really really dumb.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Things are going very well, because thanks to a deft derail on page one, this is turning a pudding-pool wrestling match about various American neuroses and comedy routines.


Communism went from "Workers of the world unite" to mutilate the genitalia of little kids, legalize kid porn and the world gonna end in 10 years cuz Global Warming or something


Sigh. But it didn't tho. That's the point. Mid-to late-century shenanigans resulted in a very effective purge. The old left in the US was boxed in. Then, identity politics said, hey, can we be the leftists?


And corporate and academic America all said "Thank you Jesus!" and gave them all HR positions and tenure. The ol' switcheroo.



Capitalism 1; Communism 0. Final.

[goblinmob]

...

[Ooloo]

I am sure blanket denialism of racism does wonders in the pro-racism circles, but you and I both know you don't have the balls to tell this lie in person

How do you measure racism? It's a very important question.

"Let's stop racism!" is obviously a goal everyone should aspire to (and already does), but nobody can ever seem to articulate what that means or how it could possibly be measured. Do you envision some ideal scenario where somebody declares "okay, racism is now over!"? Who would that person be, and how would they know?

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Discuss.


Communism is to the social justice movement what STTOS is to STTNG.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

How do you measure racism? It's a very important question.

"Let's stop racism!" is obviously a goal everyone should aspire to (and already does), but nobody can ever seem to articulate what that means or how it could possibly be measured. Do you envision some ideal scenario where somebody declares "okay, racism is now over!"? Who would that person be, and how would they know?


Desegregation. Desegregation measurably reduces racist attitudes and feelings of racial discomfort in general. This has been known for more than a century. And, not just racial but also religious or ethnic animus.

In some scenarios desegregation is an effectively impossible task. Segregation is built into urban areas. How does one undo that? There are other limits to this solution set as well. How can Mormons ever truly live among us? No one knows.


So you just asked, how do you measure it and how to you fix it. Segregation/desegregation is a long-proven indicator of likelihood/unlikelihood of racial/ethnic/etc. problems. Macro and macro scale.


We good?

[Ooloo]

Desegregation. Desegregation measurably reduces racist attitudes and feelings of racial discomfort in general. This has been known for more than a century. And, not just racial but also religious or ethnic animus.

In some scenarios desegregation is an effectively impossible task. Segregation is built into urban areas. How does one undo that? There are other limits to this solution set as well. How can Mormons ever truly live among us? No one knows.


So you just asked, how do you measure it and how to you fix it. Segregation/desegregation is a long-proven indicator of likelihood/unlikelihood of racial/ethnic/etc. problems. Macro and macro scale.


We good?

I agree segregation is bad. So does everyone else.

When your meal ticket is "fighting racism" you have a perverse incentive to ignore when progress occurs; hence modern libs pretending it's still the 1960s.

[Horza]

How do you measure racism? It's a very important question.

"Let's stop racism!" is obviously a goal everyone should aspire to (and already does), but nobody can ever seem to articulate what that means or how it could possibly be measured. Do you envision some ideal scenario where somebody declares "okay, racism is now over!"? Who would that person be, and how would they know?

Those guys marching with tiki torches were chanting yous will not replace us, not Jews will not replace us :p

[Trexller]

black males commit more rape worldwide than any other demographic

[Ekco]

black males commit more rape worldwide than any other demographic

not having strong role models has been a disaster for the male demographic.

[Horza]

I don't remember signing up for Trellxer's racist fact of the day.

[Ekco]

I don't remember signing up for Trellxer's fact of the day.

why add extra words that aren't needed.


(lol)

[goblinmob]

lol!

[Ooloo]

Those guys marching with tiki torches were chanting yous will not replace us, not Jews will not replace us :p

Yeah all 20 of them and everyone hates their guts, rightfully so. In a country of 330mil, twenty tiki guys doesn't seem like a huge deal. Especially when everyone hates their guts.

See, in a racist country, those guys would be celebrated and not condemned by literally everybody.

[Trexller]

I don't remember signing up for Trellxer's racist fact of the day.

lol it's researched, proven and published data. Go learn something.

in western nations black males rape more women than any other demographic

and in third world africa, rape is the primary cause of pregnancy, not marriage or consensual sex.

like every sex worker in the world refuses black males under the age of 40

[Horza]

Yeah all 20 of them and everyone hates their guts, rightfully so. In a country of 330mil, twenty tiki guys doesn't seem like a huge deal. Especially when everyone hates their guts.

See, in a racist country, those guys would be celebrated and not condemned by literally everybody.

I'm pretty sure the Epstein plane-flyer you Republicans all worship called them very
fine people.

[Horza]

Just going to pretend that was a stylistic choice and not me being forced to have political discussions in Rants and Flames.

[Ekco]

Yeah all 20 of them and everyone hates their guts, rightfully so. In a country of 330mil, twenty tiki guys doesn't seem like a huge deal. Especially when everyone hates their guts.

See, in a racist country, those guys would be celebrated and not condemned by literally everybody.

that's not his reality though, in his mind nazis and racists ARE everywhere and it's not a unique to Horza problem, cable news, social media, covid whatever you wanna blame it on but the only thing i know for sure is, it has fucked up a large number of people's perception of reality and we decided as a culture it's better to make money off that problem than try to fix it.

if people like Horza actually gave a shit about black communities they would be Big brothers or coaching a inner city basketball team not arguing about it on a fucking elf forum

[Horza]

that's not his reality though, in his mind nazis and racists ARE everywhere and it's not a unique to Horza problem, cable news, social media, covid whatever you wanna blame it on but the only thing i know for sure is, it has fucked up a large number of people's perception of reality and we decided as a culture it's better to make money off that problem than try to fix it.

if people like Horza actually gave a shit about black communities they would be Big brothers or coaching a inner city basketball team not arguing about it on a fucking elf forum

If you choose to vote for a racist piece of shit repeatedly, what does that make you?

[Horza]

Maybe just completely amoral, I guess.

[Trexller]

If you choose to vote for a racist piece of shit repeatedly, what does that make you?

I too voted for Obama in '08 and '12

[Ekco]

If you choose to vote for a racist piece of shit repeatedly, what does that make you?

I've told you like 10 times now i don't vote. i'm going to go out on a limb though and assume most people who voted against Hillary didn't do it because they were racists (lol)

[Horza]

Fatass says a bunch of Nazis chanting "Jews will not replace us" are very fine people, and you guys see no problem?

[Ekco]

don't make me point at the George Carlin clip again Horza, i'll fuckin do it!

[Horza]

I've told you like 10 times now i don't vote. i'm going to go out on a limb though and assume most people who voted against Hillary didn't do it because they were racists (lol)

Okay, amoral trailer trash and racists chanting about Jews, a winning coalition all of a single time :p

[Trexller]

Okay, amoral trailer trash and racists chanting about Jews, a winning coalition all of a single time :p

you're the only one who mentioned jews

like you're the only one who brings up trump, or ivermectin, or epstein

its you, only you.

[Horza]

Trellxer we're talking about tiki torch guys here please stop posted your blacked fanfic and erotica collection.

[Trexller]

Trellxer we're talking about tiki torch guys here please stop posted your blacked fanfic and erotica collection.

im calling out how you bring shit up out of no where, then pin it on others in order to artificially manufacture a high horse for you to sit yourself upon.

[aussenseiter]

Maybe just completely amoral, I guess.

Pedagogic racism is not usually vulgar racism, though it is often pretended to be.

[Elizondo]

Imagine still believing the Tiki Torch Hoax is real

21174

[Horza]

im calling out how you bring shit up out of no where, then pin it on others in order to artificially manufacture a high horse for you to sit yourself upon.

You're calling me on bringing shit up out of nowhere, mister randomly talking about black crime for no goddamn reason all the time? Not to mention you're not the only one, Teppler was terrible about that too it seems like a common trope on the fringe right.

[Horza]

Imagine still believing the Tiki Torch Hoax is real

21174

Those antisemites were very fine people according to the guy you keep voting for :p

[Trexller]

Those antisemites were very fine people according to the guy you keep voting for :p

im calling out how you bring shit up out of no where, then pin it on others in order to artificially manufacture a high horse for you to sit yourself upon.

[Horza]

People said racists no longer exist in the U.S., yet they're openly marching in the streets and celebrated by leaders of major political parties. Not sure what's so confusing about this stuff, too much paste?

[Trexller]

People said racists no longer exist in the U.S., yet they're openly marching in the streets and celebrated by leaders of major political parties. Not sure what's so confusing about this stuff, too much paste?

pics and cited quotes or it didn't happen

[Elizondo]

Those antisemites were very fine people according to the guy you keep voting for :p

lol you can't post without lying your ass off

So pathetic

[Ekco]

i'm pretty sure the woke ideology over the last decade and a half as done more to help actual racists recruit than anything George Lincoln Rockwell did

like i'm not even joking about that... but i still think it's basically a made-up issue with how much its obviously overblown for clickbait articles written by insane people and political nonsense boiled down for the lowest common denominator

so, good job Horza. YOU DID THIS.

(lol)

[Trexller]

yeah nobody really cared about trans people until they decided that acceptance wasn't enough, and pushed for dominance.

now even most liberals hate them

If you have netflix, or otherwise can access it, you really should watch Chris Rock's new stand up special called, "Selective Outrage"

it's some of his best work ever

[Horza]

Yeah nobody really cared about trans people until they decided that acceptance wasn't enough, and pushed for dominanceRupert Murdoch decided Republicans needed something new to foam at the mouth about.

[Trexller]

bro what you fail to grasp, among everything else in your life, is that nobody really gives a fuck what anyone else does, ever.

until you fuck with their kids

once you go after the kids, now you started a war

[Ekco]

no dude, literally nobody cared. Goodbye horses is my favorite song and silence of the lambs ruined it. that's trans shit i care about (lol)

X_DVS_303kQ

"i'd fuck me"

[Ekco]

Queen is another example, nobody cares Freddie Mecury was gay or had aids, because Queen fucking rules.

hope this helps.

[Horza]

Sorry to burst your bubble but everybody else just like Harry Styles and thinks you guys are a bunch of incel freaks.

[Horza]

Yeah, Freddie Mercury is another good example.

Kee9Et2j7DA

[Ekco]

Sorry to burst your bubble but everybody else just like Harry Styles and thinks you guys are a bunch of incel freaks.

Harry Styles is too new for me, literally haven't heard a single song of his. unless it's as old as everquest or taylor swift i basically don't care.

[aussenseiter]

George Lincoln Rockwell

CLLru1_f3rc

[Trexller]

Sorry to burst your bubble but everybody else just like Harry Styles and thinks you guys are a bunch of incel freaks.

incels don't really exist, this is a marxist misinformation operation to manufacture public shooters.

incel culture make absolutely no sense in this modern day when women are as open with their sexuality as men are, in many cases more so. This is natural. The hyper-sexual male doesn't meet the evolutionary requirements as the hyper-sexual female does. It's simple math. The human female cannot have more than 1.2 children per year, while the human male can theoretically impregnate a female ~10 times a day, or more.

Therefore, from an evolutionary perspective, the human female should be significantly more motivated to find a mate than the male. This was truth of nature before puritanical values gained steam in the world. This was a means of population control. It was men making the decisions, so obviously they would make the hyper-sexual female the villain after they realized too many babies were being born around 1100 AD.

it hasn't been this easy for men to get laid as it is today for several centuries. Today there are dozens of apps and websites for specifically that purpose, prostitution is rampant, and most single women in the world will sleep with you as long as you don't act like a huge dingus.

Therefore incel culture is nothing more than a ruse, which some really pathetic men have fallen for hook line and sinker.

[Horza]

incels don't really exist, this is a marxist misinformation operation to manufacture public shooters.

The friends and families of the six dead people in Isla Vista might disagree with you there about your hero Elliot Rodger.

[Trexller]

The friends and families of the six dead people in Isla Vista might disagree with you there about your hero Elliot Rodger.

Therefore incel culture is nothing more than a ruse, which some really pathetic men have fallen for hook line and sinker.

[Ekco]

The friends and families of the six dead people in Isla Vista might disagree with you there about your hero Elliot Rodger.

i thought we weren't suppose to say their names, only losers on 4chan know the names of these people

[Ekco]

even Bing is like fuck that shit

My mistake, I can’t give a response to that right now. Let’s try a different topic.

[Horza]

How much money does Alex Jones owe for saying Sandy Hook was faked by communists again?

[Trexller]

How much money does Alex Jones owe for saying Sandy Hook was faked by communists again?

pathetic men have fallen for it hook line and sinker.

[aussenseiter]

How much money does Alex Jones owe for saying Sandy Hook was faked by communists again?

I think he got charged for a billy and will pay approximately $0

[aussenseiter]

Having been a villain for more than a decade, only a bonehead wouldn't take measures to protect his wife's son's inheritance.

[Ekco]

it took awhile but they finally got their revenge for that Bohemian Grove tape.

fuckin owl worshippers

[Basanos]

Discuss.


Communism is to the social justice movement what STTOS is to STTNG.I don't see why we even need a binary approach. It does not have to be one or the other.

China uses features of capitalism within their version of socialism. We use features of socialism here in our version of capitalism. Hell, we all use features of fascism.

We can make the STSNW version of America, plus, Pike is devastatingly handsome and has great hair.

[Basanos]

How do you measure racism? It's a very important question.

"Let's stop racism!" is obviously a goal everyone should aspire to (and already does), but nobody can ever seem to articulate what that means or how it could possibly be measured. Do you envision some ideal scenario where somebody declares "okay, racism is now over!"? Who would that person be, and how would they know?That is a very weak copout. This question was also just as vague when we literally had human slaves in this country.

I have almost no respect for you, but now I have less.

[aussenseiter]

I don't see why we even need a binary approach. It does not have to be one or the other.

China uses features of capitalism within their version of socialism. We use features of socialism here in our version of capitalism. Hell, we all use features of fascism.

We can make the STSNW version of America, plus, Pike is devastatingly handsome and has great hair.

Yes, the United States and China are both social democracies to varying degrees.

Marx did not win, but I think he'd be reasonably satisfied with this outcome.

quaffs gin

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

I agree segregation is bad. So does everyone else.

Come on. That's just lazy. In order to contend against a position, you do not have to say it is fighting ghosts.



That's a strawman by proxy. You don't make you opponent a strawman, but you argue they tilt at windmills, etc. Not going to work here though.



That only works if your opponent is actually fighting ghosts. Since that is not the case, the stronger move is to find problems with method. Your opponent has the right idea, and a real enemy, but they are: self-defeating; targeting the wrong cause; not presenting a coherent solution; etc.


And, let me say, you missed my point. I am not claiming "believing" in desegregation matters a shit. I am claiming, actual desegregated communities as a rule suffer less racial/ethnic/ etc./ tension.


Raised in NY area, integration really comes down not so much to what block you live on, but who you work alongside of, ride the bus next to, cross the street with, etc. It's about daily life integration. Private social life revolves around daily workaday life, not vice versa. If your only life is "in the house" you are not living a normal life.



It is proven it works. Which was the initial puzzlement I was trying to remedy. Someone asked, how do you solve racism. This. But it is not belief. It is actual.


I do not give one single fuck what anyone "believes." Their "beliefs" can dream on. I'm dealing with what's real.


And reality: you're welcome.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

I don't see why we even need a binary approach. It does not have to be one or the other.

China uses features of capitalism within their version of socialism. We use features of socialism here in our version of capitalism. Hell, we all use features of fascism.

We can make the STSNW version of America, plus, Pike is devastatingly handsome and has great hair.


If we end up doing battle against a very angry Romulan, that might prove interesting. But, we can't reboot our prime directives, ok? hehe.



The 20th century is marked -- in the West! -- by tons of economic adjustments and "mixtures." If one takes an econ 101 class, I am pretty sure the technical term for this is a "mixed economy." It's what all "modern" economies look like.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed_economy


China's problem is not communism or communist economics. It's totalitarian surveillance state, is China's problem. I think they are eventually fucked. Get free or get fucked is built into DNA. Fact.


Free markets, free democracy baby. We win. Sadly to some, we have to include broad concepts of human rights. All apologies, as Kurt Cobain sang :confused:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWmkuH1k7uA

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Just going to pretend that was a stylistic choice and not me being forced to have political discussions in Rants and Flames.


These are challenging times. This century got all bend-y suddenly. I was all settled in for a nice third decade of cynicism. Then TehCovid took my baby. Or something. Mass regurgitation of all bad tropes, inc. Mostly it has to do with Russia losing its fucking mind. Nation of goddam alcoholics more concerned with staying stable, than running a ship. Now that's not seafaring. And now we have to de-cock the bastards and try to keep the Chinese puppet garden from going south.



It's like trying to care for a demented aging parent while the other one keeps throwing old vodka bottles at you. That's what the West does. It works.

[roks1]

“He’s written a good thing in that manuscript,” Verkhovensky went on. “He suggests a system of spying. Every member of the society spies on the others, and it’s his duty to inform against them. Every one belongs to all and all to every one. All are slaves and equal in their slavery. In extreme cases he advocates slander and murder, but the great thing about it is equality. To begin with, the level of education, science, and talents is lowered. A high level of education and science is only possible for great intellects, and they are not wanted. The great intellects have always seized the power and been despots. Great intellects cannot help being despots and they’ve always done more harm than good. They will be banished or put to death. Cicero will have his tongue cut out, Copernicus will have his eyes put out, Shakespeare will be stoned—that’s Shigalovism. Slaves are bound to be equal. There has never been either freedom or equality without despotism, but in the herd there is bound to be equality, and that’s Shigalovism! Ha ha ha! Do you think it strange? I am for Shigalovism.”

[Ash Williams]

I always love the "slaves built your country" argument. I cant recall the last time I saw a skyscraper made of cotton.... odd.

[Ekco]

Chinese built the railroads i remember that much