Halfling War SSF Permadeath Run

[skorge]

I am currently playing a SSF Halfing Warrior and doing a Permadeath run. I chose halfling because of the starting area having a lot of guards for security, the exp bonus, hide, and being able to use more vendors.

The biggest challenge so far is that Misty Thicket is probably the poorest starting zone. By the time I hit level 3 on an Ogre character I normally have close to 10 plat. In contrast, my halfling, Phatboss, only gained 1 plat by the time he hit level 3, lol. The only way I could afford a bag was to use the roaming NPC for the bug quest to get a free 6 slot bag.

Right now I am almost level 5 and just now got full cloth armor (I had to buy all the pieces). In the time I've been playing I've watched a level 3 fully twinked halfling die twice, lol. Made me feel good, not dying once so far.

Anyone else tried a permadeath run? I am recording my progress, but have not uploaded anything yet. I have a brand new baby boy and can only play in short bursts, but will upload once I have 5+ videos done.

[Toxigen]

tread lightly

[Jimjam]

Search “no time to rez”

[skorge]

tread lightly

Would be cool to take bets on how far I make it before I die, lol. Winner gets an AoN and CoF. :D

[Jimjam]

Level 7

[Sirquestalot]

I play all my toons permadeath but I don't restrict myself to SSF. And I "cheat" a bit by sometimes having a toon slated for restart do some of the heavy lifting with tracking, clearing the way, mq-ing and such.

The cheating aside, I can tell you that I've spent many hours doing low level stuff...
If you still need free bags, the tax collection box is a good 10 slotter if you're willing to make the trip to Qeynos, and while you're there, the paladin guild gives a quest or 2 with 4 or 6 slot bags you're supposed to fill also.

Another option is to make the bard mail run to Freeport (safer than the trip to Qeynos) and stop by the bard in Nek forest for that additional bag of mail, earning some coin to buy a bag or bags.

And since you're doing permadeath, you should investigate the squad ring (quested - 1 charge Healing) and the prayer beads (2 charges Healing) for emergency life-saving.

good luck and enjoy the ride

[Garnaak]

Lotsa wolves there, could of tailored up patchwork instead of buying cloth.

[DeliciousHalflings]

Would be cool to take bets on how far I make it before I die, lol. Winner gets an AoN and CoF. :D

Level 26, caught by something nasty while running through the Karanas.

[DeliciousHalflings]

I play all my toons permadeath but I don't restrict myself to SSF. And I "cheat" a bit by sometimes having a toon slated for restart do some of the heavy lifting with tracking, clearing the way, mq-ing and such.

The cheating aside, I can tell you that I've spent many hours doing low level stuff...
If you still need free bags, the tax collection box is a good 10 slotter if you're willing to make the trip to Qeynos, and while you're there, the paladin guild gives a quest or 2 with 4 or 6 slot bags you're supposed to fill also.

Another option is to make the bard mail run to Freeport (safer than the trip to Qeynos) and stop by the bard in Nek forest for that additional bag of mail, earning some coin to buy a bag or bags.

And since you're doing permadeath, you should investigate the squad ring (quested - 1 charge Healing) and the prayer beads (2 charges Healing) for emergency life-saving.

good luck and enjoy the ride

What is 'SSF'?

[Toxigen]

What is 'SSF'?

solo self funded

basically 0 outside help

aka: ive beaten eq every other way imaginable and have yet to have the mental fortitude to uninstall / walk away so here i am

[DeliciousHalflings]

solo self funded

basically 0 outside help

aka: ive beaten eq every other way imaginable and have yet to have the mental fortitude to uninstall / walk away so here i am

Do you have to delete if someone else heals you randomly while fighting?

[Toxigen]

Do you have to delete if someone else heals you randomly while fighting?

if you dont you're just cheating yourself

[Sirquestalot]

Since neither permadeath nor ssf are coded into the game, every person is going to have their personal ruleset variation. Many of those who don't want to be healed or buffed ninja style by random passersby will turn in the Tome of Discord and actually use the game coding to prevent that. Others, like <Legacy of Ik> toons I have talked to, accept heals or intervention in a fight going poorly, but will click off buffs deemed higher level than appropriate at their level.

In my case, it's more of a "roleplay" idea.... other players are part of the game world, so intervention of buffs and heals aren't a problem. It's only rezzing that I reject while trying to reach level 60 (which hasn't happened yet, sadly). Not trying to set some record, not streaming or recording my progress, just playing the game the way I want to.

[skorge]

Just a little update. I am level 6, almost 7 now. I've been sticking to killing orc pawns and orc centurions with the occasional wolf/bear. The belts give me almost 5% exp of a level per turn-in and roughly 1 plat, so I've managed to make 13 plat and buy a better weapon.

Since im SSF I can't buy/sell/trade with anyone, or take stuff off other people's corpses. I can only use vendors. I also can't ask for buffs or teleports or anything. However, if someone runs by and randomly buffs me I am good to use it as long as it's completely random. So far I've only had a total of 3 buffs cast on me and one was a See Invis, lol. The other 2 were SoW and a mage DS that almost got me killed, lol.

I think for myself I will cancel out all DS buffs in the future because I am tempted to go Rambo mode and increase my chance at death, which is almost what happened to me at level 2. I basically got knocked unconscious 3 times...somehow survived and /sit real fast, then my game glitched up on me and I couldn't pan the camera and had to log, lol. I got that recorded.

[Sirquestalot]

Just because I want you to have a decent shot at this. I think you should be very aware that the Mooto placeholder you might be killing when you get to 10ish if you stay in Misty Thicket, is also the placeholder / spawn for the alchemist who will destroy you quickly at that level. Be extrememly cautious when you get to goblin killing level.

[skorge]

Just because I want you to have a decent shot at this. I think you should be very aware that the Mooto placeholder you might be killing when you get to 10ish if you stay in Misty Thicket, is also the placeholder / spawn for the alchemist who will destroy you quickly at that level. Be extrememly cautious when you get to goblin killing level.

Yes sir, I know and it sucks. I've been leveling toons in Misty Thicket since '99. I think my strategy will be to ignore that spawn (you can if careful), and fight mobs near Runneye zoneline. My only real fear is zoning into RE if low and getting ganked on the other side. I think that has happened to me before.

I should have full leather armor by then when I start killing Gobs at least. I actually think I might not even start killing them until level 8, because going for the belts is super ez. I found out there are actually 4 orc spawns. I will probably report back in once I try goblins.

[Pint]

Can you group? Playing a char that can't snare solo trying not to die sounds rough

[Jimjam]

It’s not so bad. You just learn to use walls, corners and proximity to static mobs to prevent runners.

[Tormmac]

lol i had same idea same time as skorge didnt even see this thread, because this is becoming a big deal in wow

i did a video with my ruleset anyway: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLiSomdefnk&t

by using books of discord you can ensure normie players cant interact with you

[skorge]

lol i had same idea same time as skorge didnt even see this thread, because this is becoming a big deal in wow

i did a video with my ruleset anyway: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLiSomdefnk&t

by using books of discord you can ensure normie players cant interact with you

I thought that as well, but when you search SSF vids, none of them turn in the book, so I'm doing the same, lol...I follow 2-3 others out there. Ogreguy on YouTube does SSF characters. He just lost a 18 Ogre Warrior.

He implemented a new idea where he can hand down his gear to a new level 1, which is kinda cool. It's basically like making EQP99 a Roguelike game, which I love. I am sticking to a pure permadeath run on this guy though. No handing stuff down.

Edit: I was also worried a Red toon might gank me when afk...that's the main reason I didn't turn my book in. You know how people are, there's always someone out there to ruin your experience. If turning the book in didn't turn you PVP I would have done it.

[Tormmac]

I thought that as well, but when you search SSF vids, none of them turn in the book, so I'm doing the same, lol...I follow 2-3 others out there. Ogreguy on YouTube does SSF characters. He just lost a 18 Ogre Warrior.

He implemented a new idea where he can hand down his gear to a new level 1, which is kinda cool. It's basically like making EQP99 a Roguelike game, which I love. I am sticking to a pure permadeath run on this guy though. No handing stuff down.

Edit: I was also worried a Red toon might gank me when afk...that's the main reason I didn't turn my book in. You know how people are, there's always someone out there to ruin your experience. If turning the book in didn't turn you PVP I would have done it.

yeah i notice other people run a theme of playing solo which i think is limiting, i think a group of hardcores farming guk or something with high risk would be exciting

[PabloEdvardo]

yeah i notice other people run a theme of playing solo which i think is limiting, i think a group of hardcores farming guk or something with high risk would be exciting

...because it's solo self found

[Swish]

If you turn the book in make sure you stipulate any pvp deaths (people flagging discord at 60 who come and zap you) don't count :p

[HydroPonics]

It's nice to see old school players still playing! i have a 33 Barb War with full crafted. I haven't played in years on Green. May have to jump back on one of these days.

[eqravenprince]

One thing I wish I could do with solo self found is do all tradeskills. Is it really gamebreaking to allow all classes full access to tradeskills without reliance on another class to complete.

[skorge]

I’m still alive! Just hit level 10. It’s going slow because me and my wife have a newborn baby. He turns 3 weeks tomorrow, and is doing amazing. I can play p99 fine but when it comes to recording it kinda sucks having to take sudden breaks so much. He’s actually sleeping for a good 3 hours for the most part between feedings. I normally only do an hour or so recording.

Anyways I’m still in misty thicket turning in runny eye warbeads and orc belts for bonus coin and exp. I think I have 25 plat saved so far and full leather and a bastard sword (cost like 13 plat).

I’ve seen many deaths go down around me but haven’t even came close to dying yet other than at level 2. Been playing it super smart and safe. My plan is to keep building my plat up. Anyways once I edit the vids I’ll link it.

[Gustoo]

One thing I wish I could do with solo self found is do all tradeskills. Is it really gamebreaking to allow all classes full access to tradeskills without reliance on another class to complete.

Shamans can only alchemy
Rogues can only poison make
Gnomes can only tinker
Enchanters can only enchant metals (jewelry)

So there are some limits

[eqravenprince]

Shamans can only alchemy
Rogues can only poison make
Gnomes can only tinker
Enchanters can only enchant metals (jewelry)

So there are some limits

I'm aware. That's why I said what I said. Wish I could create a full set of cultural without having to ask a chanter to enchanter a bunch of bricks and a priest to imbue a bunch of gems. Wish I could create jewelry for myself. And alchemy stuff.

[Sirquestalot]

Skorge, why full leather and not banded? Tradeskills should still count towards ssf, no?

[Jimjam]

Skorge, why full leather and not banded? Tradeskills should still count towards ssf, no?

I suspect the issue for banded is how it takes 100+pp to raise skill and brute force a set.

A SSF character started early on on the server can at least enchant silver with giant fire beetle eyes (obviously grind skills on unenchanted).

[Sirquestalot]

Sure, sure... I'm just coming at it from the point of view of the value of AC saving your life while soloing. Working on a budget makes sense too. I think I just misread it earlier. I was reading it as leather being the goal, not where we were atm. Next step banded then? Or just going to grind away at ringmail / bronze / crafted?

P.S. Congrats on the happy, healthy addition to the family. Just remember, sleepy at the keyboard is dangerous for your hardcore toon. Best of luck! (can't tell you how many toons I've lost to autorun while passed out)

[skorge]

Sure, sure... I'm just coming at it from the point of view of the value of AC saving your life while soloing. Working on a budget makes sense too. I think I just misread it earlier. I was reading it as leather being the goal, not where we were atm. Next step banded then? Or just going to grind away at ringmail / bronze / crafted?

P.S. Congrats on the happy, healthy addition to the family. Just remember, sleepy at the keyboard is dangerous for your hardcore toon. Best of luck! (can't tell you how many toons I've lost to autorun while passed out)

Thank ya. Yea I'm trying my best to be super careful. I think it's a combination of being a permadeath run I don't want to waste time tradeskilling, as optimistic as I am about not dying, lol. Also it's super hard to build plat at this level, especially as a halfling. I feel like some races can build plat easier and have that as an option. I know ogres have a good noob area. I had 7 plat on my ogre at level 3 vs only 1 plat on my halfling.

Also, even though AC and HP are king, having a good weapon gets you more bang for you buck, since you kill crap quicker. I am trying to save my plat for a weapon on a vendor that is within reach. If I can get this weapon I will be doing a lot better.

[Jimjam]

You can’t buy weapons another player dumped (!)

[Sirquestalot]

Well, as mentioned earlier, these types of playstyles are personal preference, so if you "found" something on an npc vendor and you earned the cash to buy it yourself soloing, then that interpretation of your own personal ruleset works for you. Hope you can afford your new weapon before it poofs during a server reset.

[skorge]

Well, as mentioned earlier, these types of playstyles are personal preference, so if you "found" something on an npc vendor and you earned the cash to buy it yourself soloing, then that interpretation of your own personal ruleset works for you. Hope you can afford your new weapon before it poofs during a server reset.

Thanks. You said that perfectly. Originally I was thinking the same as the guy above but when I watched the SSF videos out there they all buy freely from vendors. It’s still not a practical way to get items tho as npcs can be crazily overpriced, but it’s fun going through them in hopes to find a little upgrade. Rivervale had some Cold plate armor on a vendor for like 15-20 plat for example, but I couldn’t use it.

[Robersonroger38]

On twitch , look the guy named Barthorrn on green server

Ssf 57 gnome warrior, it’s insane how he’s wrecking mobs with his strategy

[Gustoo]

What’s his strategy?

Be berserker frenzy on greens?

[Sirbanmelotz]

What’s his strategy?

Be berserker frenzy on greens?

[Jimjam]

What’s his strategy?

Be berserker frenzy on greens?

I’d love to know too. I recently did my war on red, not entirely solo self found but pretty close, and I ended up hanging out with the creepy crawlies for like a year in SolB.

[Barthorn]

Hey guys here's a guide I've been working on:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1j2uVy8pMK5oX-4hDn8mnq2SyLIJnnd28czws2rXlimY/edit
If you want to come check me out:
https://www.twitch.tv/barthorn
I'd be happy to chat and answer any questions.

[Balimon]

Great guide! Loved reading it

[void221]

Thank you for this wounderful Guide.