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Swish
02-22-2023, 05:51 PM
Cats on the moon?
Custom content?
Raid scene?
etc etc

Trexller
02-22-2023, 06:03 PM
allow 2 boxing, it isn't that big of an advantage compared to 3 box or 6+ box

Luclin is a good expansion, the models are not.

Encroaching Death
02-22-2023, 06:03 PM
World of Warcraft is a better game in every sense.

Trexller
02-22-2023, 06:04 PM
World of Warcraft is a better game in every sense.

ban this man pls

loramin
02-22-2023, 06:34 PM
Enchanters here aren't classic.

pink grapefruit
02-22-2023, 07:21 PM
Beastlords are actually very cool.

I had a lowbie iksar beastlord back on live and it was just so neat having an animal companion. Like you have to imagine that your weird lizard man loves his even weirder reptilian dog (?) in the most wholesome way.

Arvan
02-22-2023, 07:22 PM
Enchanters here aren't classic.

wiki isn't classic (at least not something as comprehensive and complete and free in one place)

Trexller
02-22-2023, 07:29 PM
wiki isn't classic (at least not something as comprehensive and complete and free in one place)

I've heard this said before, and I've said this before

I also add that had live EQ never produced content past luclin, then there would have been a website equal to or better than the p99 wiki

Arvan
02-22-2023, 07:41 PM
I've heard this said before, and I've said this before

I also add that had live EQ never produced content past luclin, then there would have been a website equal to or better than the p99 wiki

Isn't that kind of the point? That it remains undeveloped past velious?

Trexller
02-22-2023, 07:43 PM
Isn't that kind of the point? That it remains undeveloped past velious?

wiki isn't classic (at least not something as comprehensive and complete and free in one place)

while it isn't classic in the sense that our comprehensive wiki didn't exist in ~2000, had live EQ never expanded past luclin, it would have existed

by the time players figured out new content, they were already moving on to the next xpac.

Evia
02-22-2023, 07:59 PM
Rangers are viable tanks for group content 1-60.

unsunghero
02-22-2023, 08:00 PM
UI mods are for pussies

Default UI 4 life

Teako
02-22-2023, 09:10 PM
Surname NPC's to alleviate inane GM workload.

Ekco
02-22-2023, 09:13 PM
nothing here is classic, and the game is objectively better if you never reach endgame

Ripqozko
02-22-2023, 09:15 PM
Every new person on forums is a wokecat alt like ekco

Trexller
02-22-2023, 09:15 PM
nothing here is classic, and the game is objectively better if you never reach endgame

orc pawns are classic. maybe they are too OP tho

Foxplay
02-22-2023, 09:36 PM
Gina is not classic and is an enormous training wheels wet diaper WoW addon crutch to a lot of players

Trexller
02-22-2023, 09:41 PM
Gina is not classic and is an enormous training wheels wet diaper WoW addon crutch to a lot of players

are you the same Fox- from takp?

aussenseiter
02-22-2023, 11:12 PM
are you the same Fox- from takp?

pottyfox is a furry

Trexller
02-22-2023, 11:16 PM
theres a guy on takp with all his toons named Fox- that does this cool thing for all new players, he gives them 10k gold when they complete their newbie armor, and he makes it quest-like

Mockba1980
02-23-2023, 04:48 AM
Unroot TOV dragons!

Foxplay
02-23-2023, 06:36 AM
are you the same Fox- from takp?

Not me I don't play takp

Ratchet51
02-23-2023, 11:36 AM
Waking the sleeper didn't ruin the server, the server was already ruined.

Toxigen
02-23-2023, 11:48 AM
platlord donated bigly

Basanos
02-23-2023, 11:50 AM
UI mods are for pussies

Default UI 4 lifeAll of these years of Everquest in different forms I've never even so much as attempted to mod a UI

https://i.imgur.com/ccXdrj4.jpeg

Sadre Spinegnawer
02-23-2023, 02:10 PM
Enchanters here aren't classic.

Deep secrets and the lust for sloth were held in the balance when the Ephors met, and forbade crowd control to proceed any further. Hereafter, enchanters will use raid chat to trumpet their stalwart readiness to buff the Ephors' daily raidforce of virgins as Job One. Except for a token encounter where you have to mezz these mechanical spiders for some stupid reason.

Their perversions thus whetted, they committed their full evil twice over, when 1) the two enchanter classes in eq2 regularly topped dps parses, from pure spell dmg, and 2) in what is left of this sucked out wasp parasite of a game, when they decided to turn charisma, and charming, as anything more than a vendor stat, or a good way to get yourself kicked from a group that would prefer not to add more pretty deadly LD and lag problems to the mix.




https://i.imgur.com/IoJDkBF.jpg

magnetaress
02-23-2023, 02:15 PM
cats on the moon and berserkers should be in game, but they should be in kerra isle

Ekco
02-23-2023, 02:26 PM
cats on the moon and berserkers should be in game, but they should be in kerra isle

that's basically what shards of dayala did iirc, frogs live in kerra and i don't remember all the lore but it was written by people who actually cared more about it than just just a paycheck from smed is my point.

Basanos
02-23-2023, 02:28 PM
that's basically what shards of dayala did iirc, frogs live in kerra and i don't remember all the lore but it was written by people who actually cared more about it than just just a paycheck from smed is my point.Sadri Malath!

Last I played (probably 5+ years ago) they hadn't added berserkers tho. They had beastlords after they added in the Vah Shir, I think?

Ekco
02-23-2023, 02:30 PM
oh yeah. its beastlords. like literally.. i have a ogre beastlord with a elephant pet. thats everquest mother fuckers. sorry you don't got.

Ekco
02-23-2023, 02:30 PM
https://shardsofdalaya.com/fomelo/fomelo.php?char=sunchun 65 bst lfg, let's do CMAL or something

Evia
02-23-2023, 02:38 PM
I remember playing on SoD before I found p99... So this was probably between 09-11. My brother and I leveled some dark elves and I was an enchanter and he was a necro. We got to max lvl I recall which was like lvl 65? I remember I enjoyed myself but I didn't like all the changes..like iirc felwithe was named Athica? Or something like that? I remember camping something in the erudin jail for phat lewt tho? So I think they did change up some things in the world that were fairly interesting. Did they wipe the server at some point? Or could I resurrect my chanter?

Ekco
02-23-2023, 02:46 PM
it's still there. new characters you can turn on hardcore mode and they do seasons like diablo and you get coins to buy shit on your main character. you know like a video game that still has developers working on it.

Basanos
02-23-2023, 02:53 PM
This is my old one. I dunno what happened to his tomes of power and the other tomes I finished, maybe they reworked them at some point and that's why I have like 900+ AA

https://shardsofdalaya.com/fomelo/fomelo.php?char=robayon

Ekco
02-23-2023, 02:59 PM
yeah, they removed it, you log in and go talk to a npc from the main quest for the refund, then you spend the AAs normally. new client made codex pointless

Bardp1999
02-23-2023, 03:17 PM
Wu'Tang is a classic surname for a monk

Sadre Spinegnawer
02-23-2023, 04:11 PM
Kegolas as a dwarf warrior first name is boss.



Back then, things were oh so simple. But time's rewritten and/or lost every line of code, and now we can't even do it all again, nor would we. Memories about the original days are always fun to remember yet at the same time that's largely because they are too painful to forget lol. That's why I say, just shoot for the laughter. That's basically it for me, that's what I will remember, if I bother to remember, the way we were.

Lifebar
02-23-2023, 04:47 PM
nothing here is classic, and the game is objectively better if you never reach endgame

Ooloo
02-23-2023, 05:22 PM
Lots of things are classic, but given the nature of mmo's its almost impossible to objectively say a thing or outcome or mechanic is or isnt classic.

They should just totally retool all mob hp\resists\mechanics to make the game hard again. The raid scene on live was interesting because some of the encounters seemed almost impossible when they were released and people had to really work to figure out a strategy to beat them. Now it's like hey lets do the exact same thing every quake\respawn provided we have enough people to log in cleric bots or whatever.

pink grapefruit
02-23-2023, 06:03 PM
Real unpopular opinion:

The project would be vastly improved if the devs merged blue and green into red, and simply released a new pvp server every 3 years. The real reason bluebies hate pvp is because they haven’t experienced the magic for themselves in any meaningful way.

Ripqozko
02-23-2023, 06:44 PM
Real unpopular opinion:

The project would be vastly improved if the devs merged blue and green into red, and simply released a new pvp server every 3 years. The real reason bluebies hate pvp is because they haven’t experienced the magic for themselves in any meaningful way.

You all can’t even win a pvp tourney and that’s all y’all have, hope that helps. Consider getting good at pvp first. You are more blue then we are.

pink grapefruit
02-23-2023, 07:40 PM
You all can’t even win a pvp tourney and that’s all y’all have, hope that helps. Consider getting good at pvp first. You are more blue then we are.

Test of Tactics was fun to watch, but those silly matches under GM supervision are not pvp lol.

i bet u bleed blue lmao

Ripqozko
02-23-2023, 07:41 PM
Apparently don’t bleed as much as y’all

pink grapefruit
02-23-2023, 07:49 PM
Apparently don’t bleed as much as y’all

That’s right; you keep all your blood safe and wet in your blood vessels like a soft loser. Us red players enjoy the health benefits of regular blood letting, and we’re better for it!

How’s all that blood feel sloshing around always rofl

Ripqozko
02-23-2023, 07:51 PM
Imagine having 1 special thing about your server of 30 and being shit tier with it, yikes

Ekco
02-23-2023, 07:52 PM
as someone who plays a real pvp game i was gonna talk shit, but this is just sad.

Shourty
02-23-2023, 08:11 PM
World of Warcraft is a better game in every sense.

I fart in your general direction.

Shourty
02-23-2023, 09:09 PM
Wu'Tang is a classic surname for a monk

My monk was Tsuchang.

Ooloo
02-23-2023, 09:39 PM
Ultima online is for pvp not everquest

It would be cool if they gave vanilla and kunark bosses more than 32k hp. Fear\hate revamps did this, but only for that specific planar content. Give gorenaire like 300k hp and vp dragons 500k and see what happens. It's not mudflation because everything else stays the same.

Ooloo
02-23-2023, 09:42 PM
Custom content suggestion: Give every non-velious raid mob a chance to spawn as a "vicious" version of that mob that is tuned for end game velious gear.

Ekco
02-23-2023, 11:41 PM
here's a hot take, keep it classic and if the players get bored maybe they should move the fuck on. jesus christ.

like, am i crazy? i can't be to only one who notices the absurdity of all of this. after velious is luclin and after that is PoP. or you make alts. hope this helps.

Jobaber
02-24-2023, 12:01 AM
wipe it all get rid of everything that one been said a million times?

lets go!

magnetaress
02-24-2023, 09:39 AM
I would love a classic custom vanillar server

RULES:

lvls 1 - 50
- a few aas each class (stuff like manaburn, those signature abilites they get eventually), default stuff like wizards get critical nukes
- custom quests and content + added dungeons like TOFS with lvl 1-50 loot stuff thats like +5 and +10 or +8 resists stuff like that
MORE CULRURAL armor and geared more for the 1-50 range
More LORE type quests with smol rewards, stuff like a .2 ratio delay weapon with like +2 agi and a lvl 1 proc cool stuf for ppl to discover

Kerrans start on Kerra island

Iksars but no planar armor that is plate class or velious armor

berserkers
beastlords

MORE class/race combos like half elf cleric of bertoxulous, iksar ranger, and paladin, give a few more diety options too let there be good iksars

and make it RP teams so u can't learn other languages or trade with other teams without doing a drop transfer but teams based around diety and race so like evil elfs and good elfs, evil humans and good humans etc, disable EXP in grp if evil humans grp with good humans etc

magnetaress
02-24-2023, 09:40 AM
I would love a classic custom vanillar server

RULES:

lvls 1 - 50
- a few aas each class (stuff like manaburn, those signature abilites they get eventually), default stuff like wizards get critical nukes
- custom quests and content + added dungeons like TOFS with lvl 1-50 loot stuff thats like +5 and +10 or +8 resists stuff like that
MORE CULRURAL armor and geared more for the 1-50 range
More LORE type quests with smol rewards, stuff like a .2 ratio delay weapon with like +2 agi and a lvl 1 proc cool stuf for ppl to discover

Kerrans start on Kerra island

Iksars but no planar armor that is plate class or velious armor

berserkers
beastlords

MORE class/race combos like half elf cleric of bertoxulous, iksar ranger, and paladin, give a few more diety options too let there be good iksars

and make it RP teams so u can't learn other languages or trade with other teams without doing a drop transfer but teams based around diety and race so like evil elfs and good elfs, evil humans and good humans etc, disable EXP in grp if evil humans grp with good humans etc
like hardcode it so a human druid of karana can't buff a human druid of necro or heal them or port them or anything

magnetaress
02-24-2023, 09:41 AM
ppl could still form crossteam raids they would just need healers of each faction

magnetaress
02-24-2023, 09:41 AM
which would be leeegit RP

magnetaress
02-24-2023, 09:42 AM
More LORE type quests with smol rewards, stuff like a .2 ratio delay weapon with like +2 agi and a lvl 1 proc cool stuf for ppl to discover


and add variety to twink weapons so u dont have paladongs only with ghoulbanes or thunder staffs

Ekco
02-24-2023, 10:06 AM
i didn't read any of that magnetaress, and neither should anyone else.

Jimjam
02-24-2023, 10:50 AM
like hardcode it so a human druid of karana can't buff a human druid of necro or heal them or port them or anything

PVE teams server!

pink grapefruit
02-24-2023, 10:51 AM
i read it and it sounds great!

except i'm not completely sold on good iksar. not sure about that part. everything else though sounded amazing!

Duik
02-24-2023, 10:56 AM
Test of Tactics was fun to watch, but those silly matches under GM supervision are not pvp lol.

i bet u bleed blue lmao

We only like no rules pvp when it's under our rules...

Sadre Spinegnawer
02-24-2023, 11:07 PM
Project 1999 succeeded. It created a stable elf simulator of a certain version of everquest. Actually managed to police it, and live does not even police itself.


So you have this playerbase familiar with the project, the IP, and the actual stable server. So it's been done. Done.


The only thing left to do would be to go through the sequence p99 has worked out, except each expansion is a re-thinking of the game and perhaps even some drastic changes.



You can't just release tweaked version of p99. Who the fuck cares. But if Project1999 now became ProjectFixedIt interesting servers could be made, each own trying out not tweaks, but more basic alterations in the mechanics.


I suggest with returning charisma to a vendor stat.

Raj
02-24-2023, 11:40 PM
Gina is not classic and is an enormous training wheels wet diaper WoW addon crutch to a lot of players

aussenseiter
02-25-2023, 12:16 AM
I would love a classic custom vanillar server

RULES:

lvls 1 - 50
- a few aas each class (stuff like manaburn, those signature abilites they get eventually), default stuff like wizards get critical nukes
- custom quests and content + added dungeons like TOFS with lvl 1-50 loot stuff thats like +5 and +10 or +8 resists stuff like that
MORE CULRURAL armor and geared more for the 1-50 range
More LORE type quests with smol rewards, stuff like a .2 ratio delay weapon with like +2 agi and a lvl 1 proc cool stuf for ppl to discover

Kerrans start on Kerra island

Iksars but no planar armor that is plate class or velious armor

berserkers
beastlords

MORE class/race combos like half elf cleric of bertoxulous, iksar ranger, and paladin, give a few more diety options too let there be good iksars

and make it RP teams so u can't learn other languages or trade with other teams without doing a drop transfer but teams based around diety and race so like evil elfs and good elfs, evil humans and good humans etc, disable EXP in grp if evil humans grp with good humans etc

wizards with AAs are completely overpowered on the eqemu base code.

magnetaress
02-25-2023, 12:29 AM
wizards with AAs are completely overpowered on the eqemu base code.

they should be once they hit lvl 50 lol

make it do like 15k dmg tops blow all ur mana

the crit code is not OP at all in vanilla

Zephys
02-25-2023, 04:43 AM
The raid scene completely destroys my interest. A UN setup with GMs acting as arbiters isn't the solution.

magnetaress
02-25-2023, 09:42 AM
i think they should just let ppl Kill STeal !

this would lead to more wizards and more wizards in group )

proBlemeo solved

in v classic way

not that ii would do this to anyone on purpose deliberately unless it was in self defense

Ekco
02-25-2023, 09:47 AM
hear me out... drake pets, and like different colored ones with maybe a small buff for having it summoned.

Swish
02-25-2023, 08:25 PM
hear me out... drake pets, and like different colored ones with maybe a small buff for having it summoned.

https://i.imgur.com/YPaQ4XQ.png

Ekco
02-25-2023, 08:39 PM
https://i.imgur.com/YPaQ4XQ.png

Shourty
03-01-2023, 08:22 PM
like hardcode it so a human druid of karana can't buff a human druid of necro or heal them or port them or anything

OH YEAH!! howz bout any race, any class??

PabloEdvardo
03-02-2023, 02:28 AM
after hesitating for many years and finally trying TLP i realized that most of the complaints from p99ers about all the QoL changes are hilariously hypocritical (including myself: i used to think I would hate TLP because of all the changes)

yet p99ers (including myself...) use out of era UIs, discord tunnelquest bots, GINA overlays and nparse maps, countless wikis, etc. all basically to bridge the gaps with third party changes that eventually were addressed with first-party changes in the game itself

basically everyone says they want the lack of QoL for nostalgia but they don't really want the poor QoL they just think they do

controversial take: p99 should have instances if it actually wants to recreate the classic feeling of raiding in everquest

live servers were not top heavy with FTE racing between guilds: that's purely an invention of p99 because of only having one progression server (on the same timeline) at a time. Any server which reached high enough population density enough to start causing issues was quickly split apart by Verant. They never encouraged guild-to-guild competition, and players weren't meant to be prevented from getting access to content. Guilds settled into 'tiers' based on their targets and gearing. e.g. a player during velious era might join a guild that is doing Kunark/Vanilla Planar content, then progress to a guild doing WToV, and finally once geared enough try to join the "uber guild" doing NToV. The non-uber guilds just accepted that they didn't get to do the current hardest content until a new expansion dropped and their server's uber guild moved onto the next tier of targets.

The guild-to-guild competition was between servers, e.g. FoH and LoS racing for firsts.

With instances you effectively recreate the multiple-servers experience that Live had, while only needing to run a single p99 server. It also solves needing to add variances (another extremely non-classic system) because just like guilds did on Live, they can pick and choose the days they raid. Having to raid around huge variance windows and quakes is nothing like raiding was on Live.

p99's system also encourages huge warm-body zerg guilds because when you make guilds compete, numbers win. On Live you had plenty of uber non-zerg guilds that restricted recruitment and were very tight players. They didn't have to worry about a 130 person guild showing up to race them when they could do the content with 60 players

Boxing was also extremely classic but wouldn't work on p99 due to the "free account issue". There would be nothing to prevent players from easily boxing multiple chars to farm instance drops for RMT, but with the population of p99 servers, there's plenty of players to support about 3-4 servers worth of non-boxed raiders, meaning we don't need boxes anyway.

magnetaress
03-02-2023, 11:45 AM
after hesitating for many years and finally trying TLP i realized that most of the complaints from p99ers about all the QoL changes are hilariously hypocritical (including myself: i used to think I would hate TLP because of all the changes)


Agreed 👍

Also yes to instances.

And limit ppl to one login server account period.

magnetaress
03-02-2023, 11:48 AM
Agreed 👍

Also yes to instances.

And limit ppl to one login server account period.

And for the love of g-d nerf the ludicrous shit outa charm. Or make it like classic where ppl wouldn't even charm exp greens until they had the AA to do it to a lvl 49 mob or whatever it was in pop.

pink grapefruit
03-02-2023, 01:30 PM
And for the love of g-d nerf the ludicrous shit outa charm. Or make it like classic where ppl wouldn't even charm exp greens until they had the AA to do it to a lvl 49 mob or whatever it was in pop.

What’s the issue with charm here? I’ve never really played enchanter on live or here, but i do know the social mechanics are broken and bards cannot charm swarm like we used to.

Toxigen
03-02-2023, 01:51 PM
What’s the issue with charm here? I’ve never really played enchanter on live or here, but i do know the social mechanics are broken and bards cannot charm swarm like we used to.

enchanters are just beyond op

loramin
03-02-2023, 02:51 PM
enchanters are just beyond op

This.

And if that was how Enchanters were on live, that'd be ok ... but every source you can possibly find about classic Enchanters doesn't describe them as soloing gods. To the contrary, Enchanters were a part of the "holy trinity" you'd use to form every group, because (like Clerics or tanks) they were considered a grouping class.

Swish
03-02-2023, 07:05 PM
And limit ppl to one login server account period.

That'll work about as well as "classic UI only" on green server.

Danth
03-02-2023, 07:35 PM
The admins have largely checked out. Most of the normal folks are long since driven away. I'm beyond tired of drug addicts, troublemakers, immature manchildren and other folks whom I don't wish to associate with. I feel like a fish out of water when I log on, with little in common with most the folks left here anymore. Game's still fine but these days the community left here mostly makes me wish it was a LAN game. It's been a good run; back in 2009 I never expected this would still be installed on my PC 13+ years hence. Maybe it's time to close this book or at least put it down for awhile 'till such a time as the admins rekindle their own interest.

unsunghero
03-02-2023, 07:39 PM
Haven’t logged in in more than a month. Nerf my main all ya want IDC

I say delete charm spell, transfer clarity and c2 to wizards

Ekco
03-02-2023, 08:14 PM
transfer clarity and c2 to wizards

the wizard delegation demands KEI. and a formal apology.

Chortles Snortles
03-03-2023, 01:36 PM
imagine not using default ui in 10 years of emu
(lol)

Jimjam
03-03-2023, 02:23 PM
imagine not using default ui in 10 years of emu
(lol)

Some people don’t want to play everquest. They just like a pixel drip.

Jobaber
03-03-2023, 04:42 PM
And some just want cyber sex.

Ekco
03-03-2023, 05:28 PM
And some just want cyber sex.

people forget how common that shit was, i remember running into numerous "i'm 12 and what the fuck is going on" moments while playing in 99' people would use emotes and think the building walls would keep it private. buncha freaks.

arc
03-06-2023, 07:42 PM
there should just be an NPC that recharges clickies for money

enough w/ this dumbfuck merchant exploit jank

Swish
03-09-2023, 06:20 PM
there should just be an NPC that recharges clickies for money

enough w/ this dumbfuck merchant exploit jank

As "not classic" as it would be, having someone in WC/EC to do that would be great.

Trelaboon
03-26-2023, 01:43 PM
I’d absolutely love a PoP era server with the same rules against boxing etc that p1999 has.

Trexller
03-26-2023, 01:45 PM
I’d absolutely love a PoP era server with the same rules against boxing etc that p1999 has.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=417006

socialist
03-26-2023, 10:08 PM
And for the love of g-d nerf the ludicrous shit outa charm. Or make it like classic where ppl wouldn't even charm exp greens until they had the AA to do it to a lvl 49 mob or whatever it was in pop.

Except that wasn't actually the case.

aussenseiter
03-26-2023, 10:19 PM
Except that wasn't actually the case.

it wasn't real enchanter charming :o

Trexller
03-26-2023, 10:49 PM
Dire Charm wasn't all that great. It rocked in luclin and was kinda ok in PoP

max level 46 mobs, and super long refresh like 90 min so if pet dies thats it. and in any xp/raid setting you're charming that 46 mob against mobs that are 60-70 in PoP+

yeah it obliterated trivial content but, you're lvl 60 w/ AAs and you would without DC

later sony realized they fucked up and couldn't afford to scale the ability so Dire Charm became a fixed 6 min charm on mobs over 46

pink grapefruit
03-27-2023, 12:02 AM
Bards should get the Fading Memories ability here on P99. It wouldn't be overpowered bc we lack all the flowing thought items.

DeliciousHalflings
03-27-2023, 11:47 AM
Mention anything about the boats and at least 3 of the devs will find where you live and leave cat shit in your mailbox.

Madae
03-29-2023, 01:12 PM
after hesitating for many years and finally trying TLP i realized that most of the complaints from p99ers about all the QoL changes are hilariously hypocritical (including myself: i used to think I would hate TLP because of all the changes)

yet p99ers (including myself...) use out of era UIs, discord tunnelquest bots, GINA overlays and nparse maps, countless wikis, etc. all basically to bridge the gaps with third party changes that eventually were addressed with first-party changes in the game itself

basically everyone says they want the lack of QoL for nostalgia but they don't really want the poor QoL they just think they do
All I change are a few key binds.

Madae
04-02-2023, 05:50 PM
I don't get why so many items aren't allowed to drop anymore because "classic". Like this is just silly;
https://wiki.project1999.com/Cyclops_Eye
Won't drop because bugged, won't be fixed because 2003... duuuuuh. Meanwhile, April 1st jokey day and I guess Guise of the Deceiver dropped in ToV last night for some reason? Special event maybe, but still. Can't have it both ways and not look dumb.

Hasbinbad
04-02-2023, 08:44 PM
I am the best that ever was on p99.

You may not like it, but this is what peak elfsim performance looks like.

pink grapefruit
04-02-2023, 08:55 PM
this game would be a lot more fun if someone would just give me a fungi tunic, preferably on red server.

(my PMs are open)

Strifer
04-03-2023, 01:13 PM
I miss back when RnF was about the game.

Like you could get mad about spawns and talk shit about young doctors and make funny tags. That was cool, funny shit in game was always fun for me as a source of community entertainment. Nowadays you look at 90% of threads and shit just devolves into IRL politics unless you wanna watch meth heads try and make a living which hey, EQ Trailer Park Boys....sure.

Just ain't what it used to be, or I'm just getting old and don't wanna make this place ANOTHER place out of the millions out there to argue about dumbass politics shit. It was good while it lasted I guess.

Hasbinbad
04-03-2023, 01:14 PM
I miss back when RnF was about the game.

Like you could get mad about spawns and talk shit about young doctors and make funny tags. That was cool, funny shit in game was always fun for me as a source of community entertainment. Nowadays you look at 90% of threads and shit just devolves into IRL politics unless you wanna watch meth heads try and make a living which hey, EQ Trailer Park Boys....sure.

Just ain't what it used to be, or I'm just getting old and don't wanna make this place ANOTHER place out of the millions out there to argue about dumbass politics shit. It was good while it lasted I guess.
Do you ever sometimes just go back and read the old IB/Trans posts? They are great.

Strifer
04-03-2023, 01:22 PM
Do you ever sometimes just go back and read the old IB/Trans posts? They are great.

Oh yeah, as well as that one dude having his own words used to flame him

Top notch

Supa6four
04-03-2023, 01:27 PM
I like some of the Luclin models give me the option lol. Shoot me I know haha

Hasbinbad
04-03-2023, 01:29 PM
I like some of the Luclin models give me the option lol. Shoot me I know haha
Irredeemable; your PC deserves to be virus'd by a leet hax.

Jimjam
04-04-2023, 12:48 AM
Oh yeah, as well as that one dude having his own words used to flame him

Top notch

“Clear argues with Clear“ if anyone was wondering.

Madae
04-10-2023, 01:36 AM
Tunnel was filled with the most unfuckinghelpful people today, I swear...

Tunabros
04-10-2023, 03:21 PM
unroot dragons + make raiding hardcore again

Chortles Snortles
04-11-2023, 11:07 AM
>druid main “raider”
(lol)

IzHaN80
04-11-2023, 01:01 PM
Outdoor camp ruling, has a lot of holes, people gets to abuse it, you feel helpless. If you try to play nice, they take an edge out of it, if you trying to not let that person have it it's way you will probably get punished. Basically, you're helpless against abusers.

cadoipi
04-11-2023, 02:33 PM
Outdoor camp ruling, has a lot of holes, people gets to abuse it, you feel helpless. If you try to play nice, they take an edge out of it, if you trying to not let that person have it it's way you will probably get punished. Basically, you're helpless against abusers.

For inside zones there is a nice heuristic of "a room" or "line of sight" as constituting a "camp", but for outside zones there is no easily/clean heuristic for a "camp". For this reason the the volunteer GMs decided that camp = spawn-point because otherwise they would endlessly be making judgement calls (that they would need to defend) and doing so opens a huge can of worms.

You are welcome to propose a simple solution (or define every camp in every outdoor zone manually ROFL) and see what other people think.

PlsNoBan
04-11-2023, 09:44 PM
A lot of the "magic" that made classic EQ enjoyable was a combination of dumb luck and "right place right time" being the first real MMORPG of it's kind. Don't get me wrong that's not ALL of it. EQ definitely at it's core is a fun game with a tried and true gameplay loop that keeps people engaged and coming back for more. This project and the fact that there are still basically annual new TLP servers being released for the game is testament to that.

HOWEVER

A whooooooooooooole lot of classic EQ mechanics are absolute piles of janky dog shit. The game wasn't/isn't fun BECAUSE of them. It's fun in SPITE of them. MANY of them were not conscious design decisions by a team of allstar developers that really knew they were making the right call. They were a smattering of "We gotta do it this way cause of xyz technical limitation" and "Let's try this cause there aren't any other games like us that we can imitate so lets just throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks". Some of it turned out really good. Some of it not so good and was clearly only done the way it was done because of tech limitations OR lack of foresight about how a particular mechanic would play out long term.

With that said my top 3 complaints/unpopular opinions about P99:

1: Insistence on mimicing classic to an annoying degree with a large variety of changes that did nothing but piss off the majority of the playerbase. There are MANY classic mechanics that basically nobody (except a few weirdo masochists) actually wants and would be better left as a memory while we relive the actual fun parts of the game.

2: Selectively choosing (for god fucking knows what reason?) to make "not classic" changes or refuse to implement classic mechanics in a way that also pisses off the majority of the playerbase. I could go on forever on this one but just a few off top of my head. Enchanter charm is WAY more powerful/consistent here than it was in 1999. Channeling works WAY better here than it did in 1999 allowing casters to be SIGNIFICANTLY more powerful solo than they originally were. Removal of buff timers forcing people to use 3rd party apps to track them. Removing stuff like pet window and UI options on green.etc Don't even get me started on the raid scene and how not classic it is and the powers that be choose (again for reasons nobody seems to know?) to let it continue being the festering pile of poo that it has been practically since blue launched. Gigantic variance windows encouraging extremely unhealthy amounts of "tracking" required to participate. FTE races. People scripting and using bots to cheat said mechanics.etc.etc.etc it's all a mess and why MANY folks refuse to have any part in the endgame of P99 and encourage new players to enjoy 1-60 leveling and stay away from endgame completely for the best enjoyment of the server. It shouldn't (and doesn't have to) be that way.

3: Not doing what was originally promised and merging green/blue at end of green timeline and doing the whole "Recycle Server" thing. Many of P99's biggest problems stem from being too topheavy and the recycle thing was a fantastic idea to combat that problem. People can just roll fresh on the new server every year or couple of years even. We're closing in on what 4 years now of Green? Still no word from staff whatsoever on the plans for the future of that server or the project as a whole? Unless I missed something nothing has officially been said about plans for green or any other servers or the project in general since october of 2019 when Rogean said "At this time, we haven't made a final decision" and the community has been left hanging on all inquiries about it since then as far as I know. Hopefully I'm wrong here and someone can point out something I missed.

4 (bonus): Permabanning someones main account with thousands of hours invested for a first offense that was accidental and did no actual harm to anyone or anything and denying multiple appeal requests. Still salty about this one.

Madae
04-12-2023, 11:39 PM
Some of the Temple of Sol legacy armor sets need to be easier. The Paladin set is stupidly difficult for mediocre armor. The Bard set wasn't terribly hard to do, but it took awhile - that's mostly fine, but comparing these two quest sets is like apples and oranges.

Naethyn
04-13-2023, 11:32 AM
Remove bind sight and logging to the file system from raid zones.

PlsNoBan
04-13-2023, 12:05 PM
Remove bind sight and logging to the file system from raid zones.

That would be interesting lol. Although anything you would use bind sight for you could just as easily screenshare if bind sight was disabled. Disabling /log would be interesting. Can you imagine the mental breakdown that would occur if dps parsers/gina were rendered completely unusable? lol. That would be a fun week on the forums.

Naethyn
04-13-2023, 12:07 PM
Face tracking the mob with screen share isn't the concern. Removing bind sight prevents pre targeting and zero delay pixel detection.

PlsNoBan
04-13-2023, 02:43 PM
Face tracking the mob with screen share isn't the concern. Removing bind sight prevents pre targeting and zero delay pixel detection.

Yeah I mean... I guess? But it ultimately wouldn't change a lot right? If bind sight just didn't exist people would just replace it with screenshare and you'd have a slight delay on pixel detection and lose pretargetting but everyone would (in theory) all be at the same level doing roughly the same thing still. People would still script to eek out 0.02 seconds off the race line. Just using a slightly delayed screenshare rather than bind sight. I've been out of P99 endgame for a bit and mostly get my drama from 3rd parties and forums. Is pretargetting really that helpful? I'd guess it probably depends on the target?

PlsNoBan
04-13-2023, 02:45 PM
Like if you can click target or /tar the mob with a macro prior to being in range + LoS. Pretargetting would do absolutely nothing to benefit you in a FTE race right? Would only be useful in cases where you can't get a click on the mob or get in /tar range prior to being in range/los to tag?

Naethyn
04-13-2023, 02:56 PM
nah

PlsNoBan
04-13-2023, 03:38 PM
ok

cadoipi
04-13-2023, 06:43 PM
Removing bind sight prevents pre targeting and zero delay pixel detection.

This being the meta is certainly the CLASSIC eq experience I crave.

Valakut
04-14-2023, 08:19 AM
Rogean should require a mental health evaluation be uploaded to your eqemu account along with government ID so when you get caught RMT'ing it's easier to process for the IRS