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Drueric
01-12-2023, 10:19 PM
Ive gotten the faction for the regular guards to apprehensive, so I could turn in bone chips, but the wandering crusaders still see me and attack.

I remember being able to do this on live by being invisible, but that apparently doesnt work in P1999 for whatever reason. So now it seems that its no longer possible for non iksar to do this. If there is a way, how? Otherwise it seems al my efforts are pointless.

I recall seeing someone else turning in bone chips before without getting attacked, but I havent been able to. What am I missing?

Are there iksar illusion potions maybe? Or some item?

Infectious
01-13-2023, 01:14 AM
No potions exist. Kill goblins until your factioned for bone chip quest(still kos to crusaders). Then hand in a couple thousand bone chips until necro and then crusader isn't kos.

Sirquestalot
01-13-2023, 03:00 AM
The lesson here is Patience. Those kos Crusaders go on patrol and are away from the city entrance (and Trooper Mozo) for long enough that you can turn in a few hundred bone chips before they path back.

Now, I don't know what the hell Infectious is talking about. (Or, actually I do, but I don't think he does.) Crusader Bodli really is a Crusader (shadowknight) but Crusader Quarg is actually a shaman... or at least on the shaman guild faction. And as far as turning in bone chips raising necro faction.... just no. The bone chip quest raises all the Cabilis factions OTHER than necro. For Brood of Kotiz faction, you need to kill iksar bandit types.

For one last bit of possibly relevant info... with a name like Drueric... are you perhaps a druid? If so, you could also throw a Harmony at the Crusaders and if you're a halfling you could even sneak while handing in the bone chips, so you don't have to run back an forth quite as much.

Drueric
01-13-2023, 04:04 AM
I already knew pretty much all of that. So basically, the trick is to wait til the crusaders leave, turn in a few bone chips, then run away til they leave again.

I have seen others turn in bone chips in massive amounts very quickly, but I dont know how they do that. I just click and drag one bone chip at a time like normal. I mean, p1999 removed the ability to turn in chips while invis, so I must assume its because they expect people to use this other turn in trick to get alot of chips turned in super fast.

Anyone know how thats done?

Sirquestalot
01-13-2023, 07:34 AM
I believe you are either thinking of another game or you are hallucinating when you remember being able to turn in quest items to an npc while invis. And just because you watch other people turning in massive numbers of bone chips doesn't mean that they haven't already put in the time and effort to raise their faction above kos.

I repeat, the key is patience. If that is a problem for you, I'm afraid that nothing else any of us has to say is going to help.

Jimjam
01-13-2023, 08:50 AM
Ive gotten the faction for the regular guards to apprehensive, so I could turn in bone chips, but the wandering crusaders still see me and attack.

I remember being able to do this on live by being invisible, but that apparently doesnt work in P1999 for whatever reason. So now it seems that its no longer possible for non iksar to do this. If there is a way, how? Otherwise it seems al my efforts are pointless.

I recall seeing someone else turning in bone chips before without getting attacked, but I havent been able to. What am I missing?

Are there iksar illusion potions maybe? Or some item?

GMs will sometimes punctuate their corpse summon/recovery days with a bit of travelling entertainment. The most popular prank or trick for GMs to perform is an illusion. I remember experiencing these on red and blue.

If you identify a GM is having a bit of fun time and are able to write a friendly, charismatic narrative message / request politely requesting an illusion if you’re really lucky they may grant it.

Obviously don’t abuse this or be a pest.

Jimjam
01-13-2023, 08:53 AM
I already knew pretty much all of that. So basically, the trick is to wait til the crusaders leave, turn in a few bone chips, then run away til they leave again.

I have seen others turn in bone chips in massive amounts very quickly, but I dont know how they do that. I just click and drag one bone chip at a time like normal. I mean, p1999 removed the ability to turn in chips while invis, so I must assume its because they expect people to use this other turn in trick to get alot of chips turned in super fast.

Anyone know how thats done?

Overlap your bag containing the stacked item over the NPC.

Have ‘use centre screen’ bound to control+u.

Control+click on the stack to pick up one item then control+u to trade window it.

On full window smash the give button and keep doing four more until done.

mcoy
01-13-2023, 09:26 AM
There's 1 patrolling trooper that comes close enough to agro you if you're standing in the firepot at max trade distance. You simply walk around the corner when he's pathing near.
I don't think you have to stay away - it's only his pathing towards cab where he sees you. I think he leaves you alone when he paths out. It's been years since I did this on Mcoy though.

-Mcoy

mcoy
01-13-2023, 09:31 AM
As I think about it more he may have agro'd while leaving while at scowls but not at glares? Again, it's been a while. Yes, it takes a stupid amount of bone chips. If you want the thread where I described my (stupid) process:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=270954

-Mcoy

Infectious
01-13-2023, 11:30 AM
The lesson here is Patience. Those kos Crusaders go on patrol and are away from the city entrance (and Trooper Mozo) for long enough that you can turn in a few hundred bone chips before they path back.

Now, I don't know what the hell Infectious is talking about. (Or, actually I do, but I don't think he does.) Crusader Bodli really is a Crusader (shadowknight) but Crusader Quarg is actually a shaman... or at least on the shaman guild faction. And as far as turning in bone chips raising necro faction.... just no. The bone chip quest raises all the Cabilis factions OTHER than necro. For Brood of Kotiz faction, you need to kill iksar bandit types.

For one last bit of possibly relevant info... with a name like Drueric... are you perhaps a druid? If so, you could also throw a Harmony at the Crusaders and if you're a halfling you could even sneak while handing in the bone chips, so you don't have to run back an forth quite as much.

Bone chips quest does raise necro, it just takes the longest (6-8000). You can use Google and figure this out.

So once again before this clown decided to comment. Kill goblins until Trooper faction. Then bone chip your ass off until you max the rest

Encroaching Death
01-13-2023, 11:43 AM
Your faction standing with Legion of Cabilis got better. +1
Your faction standing with Cabilis Residents got better. +1
Your faction standing with Scaled Mystics got better. +1
Your faction standing with Crusaders Of Greenmist got better. +1
Your faction standing with Swift Tails got better. +1

Pootle
01-13-2023, 11:51 AM
I did this on my Half-Elf Bard for... you know, I have no idea why i did it... just wanted to be able to run through Kabilis without needing invis, and so i could say i done it.

In Swamp of No Hope, in a cave and very close to the Trakanon's Teeth zoneline, there are about 9 Iksar Exiles just standing around.

Killed those till i was not KOS to the Trooper.

Then (as stated above) tun in to Trooper when patroling guards are not close... until not KOS to patroller.

All in all, till I was on good terms with everyone in Kabalis, took me close to 10,000 bone chips.
I had a chart showing all my faction levels after each turn in session somehwere, but not sure where it is at moment.

Encroaching Death
01-13-2023, 11:53 AM
took me close to 10,000 bone chips.


How did you get the Bone Chips?

Stood in FoB/Kurns spamming "WTB Bone Chips"?

That's probably the best way imo

My 60 Necro STILL has Bone Chips that he collected at level 1.

Trexller
01-14-2023, 01:21 AM
what level are you, OP?

everyone keeps saying kill goblins for trooper faction, and while this will also provide the coveted chardok faction, XP in seb also gives cabilis trooper faction, and iirc a trakanon kill is a huge legion of cabilis faction boost

Sirquestalot
01-14-2023, 04:51 AM
I wouldn't go so far as to claim "everyone keeps saying kill goblins." If we're being accurate, the goblins of Warsliks Woods, Lake of Ill Omen and Firiona Vie affect the faction for Legion of Cabilis, but the goblins of Nurga, Droga and Frontier Mountains do nothing toward Legion, but rather raise Chardok (Brood of Di'Zok.) p.s. the first 3 sets of goblins don't do you any good toward Chardok unless they're dropping goblin skins.

As far as Brood of Kotiz, you can call me a clown, but I'll be the one laughing when you think you've raised your necromancer faction, and I get to watch you die in West Cabilis.

See Encroaching Death's post above re: factions from the bone chips quest.

magnetaress
01-14-2023, 10:15 AM
technically certain ppl should have their faction capped butt its not and so not classic

disable bone chip quest until it can be properly implemented imo

jadier
01-14-2023, 11:52 AM
Bone chips quest does raise necro, it just takes the longest (6-8000). You can use Google and figure this out.

So once again before this clown decided to comment. Kill goblins until Trooper faction. Then bone chip your ass off until you max the rest

Iksar necro faction is Brood of Kotiz.

Bone chip quest does *not* raise Brood of Kotiz.

You cannot raise Iksar necro faction with bone chips.

DeathsSilkyMist
01-14-2023, 12:48 PM
I believe you are either thinking of another game or you are hallucinating when you remember being able to turn in quest items to an npc while invis. And just because you watch other people turning in massive numbers of bone chips doesn't mean that they haven't already put in the time and effort to raise their faction above kos.

I repeat, the key is patience. If that is a problem for you, I'm afraid that nothing else any of us has to say is going to help.

You can turn in items to NPCs while invis on P99. Opening the trade window does drop your current invis, but it is possible to re-invis while you have the trade window up. You can only do this when the mob isn't going to agro you, though. So you would need to lull the mob, or be at least doubious. The benefit to this is it raises your faction to indifferent during turn-in.

Jimjam
01-14-2023, 03:23 PM
Snaring a mob on a LoS blocking corner and dropping aggro is a good way to do kos hand ins too. Obviously you may still need an invis as most quests won’t work on kos faction.

Some zones don’t really have LoS blocking terrain so I’m unsure how convenient this trick would be for iksar bone chips.

I think I used it in kael to give captain belly head.

DeathsSilkyMist
01-14-2023, 05:30 PM
Snaring a mob on a LoS blocking corner and dropping aggro is a good way to do kos hand ins too. Obviously you may still need an invis as most quests won’t work on kos faction.

Some zones don’t really have LoS blocking terrain so I’m unsure how convenient this trick would be for iksar bone chips.

I think I used it in kael to give captain belly head.

Yup, you can use LoS too. You can open a trade window with any NPC as long as they don't agro you, and you are in range.

cd288
01-15-2023, 09:54 PM
Bone chips quest does raise necro, it just takes the longest (6-8000). You can use Google and figure this out.

So once again before this clown decided to comment. Kill goblins until Trooper faction. Then bone chip your ass off until you max the rest

Seems odd that the wiki would be incorrect on the faction for a bone chip quest and it doesn’t list necro guild faction as a reward on the cabilis bone chips quest

cd288
01-15-2023, 09:56 PM
Also multiple comments on allakhazam also say it does not reward necro faction

Pootle
01-16-2023, 07:08 AM
How did you get the Bone Chips?

Stood in FoB/Kurns spamming "WTB Bone Chips"?

That's probably the best way imo

My 60 Necro STILL has Bone Chips that he collected at level 1.

As i was doing this on my Bard, i would just pull all of Kurns Tower and AOE them down, (if it was empty).

If there was anyone in there I would avoid anything they were hunting and offer to buy chips from them. I also had a druid parked in there, and would buff anyone leveling in there.

Often people just gave me stacks of chips for the buffs or when they found out i was trying to raise faction in Kabalis.

Drueric
01-16-2023, 12:07 PM
I believe you are either thinking of another game or you are hallucinating when you remember being able to turn in quest items to an npc while invis. And just because you watch other people turning in massive numbers of bone chips doesn't mean that they haven't already put in the time and effort to raise their faction above kos.

I repeat, the key is patience. If that is a problem for you, I'm afraid that nothing else any of us has to say is going to help.

Well you be incorrect because I witnessed it happen right here on green but a few months ago.

Drueric
01-16-2023, 12:10 PM
Overlap your bag containing the stacked item over the NPC.

Have ‘use centre screen’ bound to control+u.

Control+click on the stack to pick up one item then control+u to trade window it.

On full window smash the give button and keep doing four more until done.

Thank you.

Sirquestalot
01-16-2023, 06:49 PM
To borrow from a very old saying, I would be a fool to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man. Therefore, I'm out. I'll just keep running around on my various non-iksar toons in Cabilis.

You, on the other hand, only have 3 days remaining to gather whatever you have left on that corpse at the entrance to Kurns Tower.

Peace.

Drueric
01-16-2023, 08:06 PM
LOL what? There is nothing on that corpse cept a summoned item. And apparently you cant read, because someone just posted the procedure I was asking about. So yea.. I think you just lost that battle.

Sirquestalot
01-16-2023, 08:32 PM
Troll accepted. That method is actually more work than you have to put in... and it's not going to prevent the pathing guard from murdering you.

Drueric
01-24-2023, 05:06 PM
Yes and the troll is you.

jadier
01-24-2023, 05:25 PM
On my necro, I do quest turnins invis all the time. Have a LoS block on the NPC, open trade window, hit CoS, complete trade.

I do it on my warrior sometimes too, but it burns a charge off my invis ring so is costly. Easier to have a friend invis you after opening each trade window.

Jimjam
01-24-2023, 06:22 PM
I burnt through so many cloudy potions on my elf warrior getting halfling faces skinned in neriak ��

To build on my previously posted tip, also bind hail to control+u to keep the npc stood there (unless you are doing sneak hand ins to KOS!!)

Fragged
01-29-2023, 02:07 AM
Move him to a corner (has to be "a part of the map" and not "just a building" to block line of sight) or a hill where you can open trade from out of line of sight (harder to do outdoors).

Snare and root him. Clear agro. Open trade, cast invis on on the trader before clicking the trade button.

Old_PVP
01-29-2023, 12:51 PM
Didn't read the whole thread, so some of this may have already been answered.

I did this feat on 2 of my characters. Around 25,000 bone chips turned in between the 2. Best way to get bone chips in my opinion is what I call "vendor shopping". Just go into a town, all towns preferrably... and look to see what people have sold to vendors. You can acquire thousands of bone chips this way at bare minimum prices.

If you are KOS to the crusaders then you need to hand in as many chips as you can before they wander back and then move out of the way. I had it timed to an 11 minute cycle at one point. Having skeleton illusion can go a long way with giving that temporary faction boost. (the 2 characters i did this on were enchanter / necro) So it was slightly easier for me but even they were kos at first in skeleton and even iksar illusion.

Control+click is your friend. It will allow you to turn in 100 chips in a couple minutes.