View Full Version : Banned for a week for killing mobs that were stolen from me.
GigasLugian
01-09-2023, 12:12 AM
Was in unrest killing basement with a group. Some group members didnt like a mage in our group and demanded he/she be kicked. I said "no" and they left group to form their own group to take over basement camp.
They started to kill steal and take mobs. I told my lvl 29 mage groupmate to hold tight and logged in my level 55 mage. This was still our camp, and these thief's were not going to take it from us.
sceryun
Fast forward and hour later and I get a /tell from Visceryn telling me Im in the wrong and bans me for a week.
So its OK to take over any group in the game, and if the original group complains just report them and a GM will swoop down and ban you.
Trexller
01-09-2023, 12:49 AM
Completely Justified Ban.
You had a problem.
You handled it wrong.
The first line of conflict resolution on p99 is players working it out themselves. This resolves 95% of conflicts.
Instead, You brought in your 55 mage which could dominate the entire zone, effectively becoming the kill stealer yourself. When you logged off, you relinquished any rights to any mobs.
1 week ban is a slap on the wrist for this offense. You basically got mad at someone and then went home, got a gun, returned to the scene and murdered someone.
Enjoy your time off.
Samoht
01-09-2023, 12:50 AM
I once had Sirken DT me for this exact same thing. I was root rotting the single ghoul at the back of the house in unrest when some enchanter decided it was going to be their pet. They didn't care that it was rooted or 20% health. They charmed it. The charm broke, I killed it got my xp... next spawn, the did it again.
I changed to my 60 and started killing all their mobs.
Short explanation: GMs only honor who petitions first. They don't actually give a shit who is in the right or wrong.
Lesson: Be the first to cry.
GigasLugian
01-09-2023, 12:56 AM
Completely Justified Ban.
You had a problem.
You handled it wrong.
The first line of conflict resolution on p99 is players working it out themselves. This resolves 95% of conflicts.
Instead, You brought in your 55 mage which could dominate the entire zone, effectively becoming the kill stealer yourself. When you logged off, you relinquished any rights to any mobs.
1 week ban is a slap on the wrist for this offense. You basically got mad at someone and then went home, got a gun, returned to the scene and murdered someone.
Enjoy your time off.
LOL you're comparing less than 10 mobs in a VIDEO GAME to a murder IRL. You need to touch some grass and get a life my mentally confused friend. Seek help.
GigasLugian
01-09-2023, 01:05 AM
Update: Visceryn doesnt care, probably friends with them. 7 day ban for killing mobs in youre own camp is banned, says Visceryn.
Drunkennewbie
01-09-2023, 01:17 AM
Update: Visceryn doesnt care, probably friends with them. 7 day ban for killing mobs in youre own camp is banned, says Visceryn.
You logged off and got your lvl 55... There was no "owning" the camp. That is literally just Kill Stealing.
Right Answer: Petition to GM, Explain situation.
Wrong Answer: "Screw you guys I'll just make my own party with Elements and mages... You know what screw that I'll just come murder the camp for no purpose besides throwing a tantrum.
It isn't "Aww he threw a tantrum lets look at why... aww he was right" No it's "He threw a tantrum, that is immature, there is a door."
GigasLugian
01-09-2023, 01:19 AM
You logged off and got your lvl 55... There was no "owning" the camp. That is literally just Kill Stealing.
Right Answer: Petition to GM, Explain situation.
Wrong Answer: "Screw you guys I'll just make my own party with Elements and mages... You know what screw that I'll just come murder the camp for no purpose besides throwing a tantrum.
It isn't "Aww he threw a tantrum lets look at why... aww he was right" No it's "He threw a tantrum, that is immature, there is a door."
my group was still there and active. This was our group. I didnt "steal" anything.
GigasLugian
01-09-2023, 01:24 AM
@Visceryn
Sounds like in all the cases where people get hammered, they swapped to a high level or swapped characters. So instead of all this nonsense, lets say do not swap characters for a camp dispute.
Except apparently your groupmate held the camp or something. Did he get ban?
GigasLugian
01-09-2023, 01:26 AM
Sounds like in all the cases where people get hammered, they swapped to a high level or swapped characters. So instead of all this nonsense, lets say do not swap characters for a camp dispute.
Except apparently your groupmate held the camp or something. Did he get ban?
No, it was still OUR camp. Even after they stole it from us. @Visceryn
Drunkennewbie
01-09-2023, 01:29 AM
my group was still there and active. This was our group. I didnt "steal" anything.
You threw a Tantrum. Yes they split off and stayed at the camp. BUT you nullified any claim that you had the moment you left came with your 55 mage just to kill the spawn. You have NO reason to sit there as a 55 mage to take the spawn or KS. If you paged same time as them there would of been a better argument, instead you swapped.
GigasLugian
01-09-2023, 01:30 AM
The ones who stole the camp from us were fine, they continued to play. I was, for some reason, banned for 7 days? By Visceryn. I guess getting your camp stolen from you is ok, but trying to keep it is a big fat NO-NO- Visceryn
GigasLugian
01-09-2023, 01:31 AM
You threw a Tantrum. Yes they split off and stayed at the camp. BUT you nullified any claim that you had the moment you left came with your 55 mage just to kill the spawn. You have NO reason to sit there as a 55 mage to take the spawn or KS. If you paged same time as them there would of been a better argument, instead you swapped.
First of all, we had people at the camp who stayed there. So nobody "left" the camp. We were there the entire time. They came in and stole the camp.
Drunkennewbie
01-09-2023, 01:32 AM
The ones who stole the camp from us were fine, they continued to play. I was, for some reason, banned for 7 days? By Visceryn. I guess getting your camp stolen from you is ok, but trying to keep it is a big fat NO-NO- Visceryn
.. Who was the party leader of original party?
Jobaber
01-09-2023, 01:33 AM
Ya'll need jesus.
Lucky for you he comin.
GigasLugian
01-09-2023, 01:33 AM
.. Who was the party leader of original party?
I dont know, it bounced around a few times while people came and left over the 6+ hours we were there, why?
Drunkennewbie
01-09-2023, 01:36 AM
I dont know, it bounced around a few times while people came and left over the 6+ hours we were there, why?
So the leader left, remake group. Left you as leader?
So all people involved own camped just 2 groups?
GigasLugian
01-09-2023, 01:37 AM
So the leader left, remake group. Left you as leader?
So all people involved own camped just 2 groups?
You know how you join an exp group? And play for hours? And some members leave, and some join? That's what happened. Group was never remade..... not sure what you're trying to get at here.
cd288
01-09-2023, 01:37 AM
Completely Justified Ban.
You had a problem.
You handled it wrong.
The first line of conflict resolution on p99 is players working it out themselves. This resolves 95% of conflicts.
Instead, You brought in your 55 mage which could dominate the entire zone, effectively becoming the kill stealer yourself. When you logged off, you relinquished any rights to any mobs.
1 week ban is a slap on the wrist for this offense. You basically got mad at someone and then went home, got a gun, returned to the scene and murdered someone.
Enjoy your time off.
Sounds like you didn’t read a single word of his post. The other people clearly were not willing to “work anything out” and deserved what they got when he brought his 55 mage
GigasLugian
01-09-2023, 01:38 AM
Sounds like you didn’t read a single word of his post. The other people clearly were not willing to “work anything out” and deserved what they got when he brought his 55 mage
thank you, i felt like I was taking fuckin crazy pills
Samanthabrown
01-09-2023, 01:42 AM
yeah, thats now how it happend at all.
we tryed to say how we dident like the way the mage was pulling and trying to solo the mobbs by yourself. you threw a fit and started acting a fool. so the 4 of us left and formed our own group. you stayed with the mage. then logged onto your high level mage and started levling the whole basement including stealing mobbs that we were tagging. thats why you were banned. so stop crying cocodile tears on the forum.
Samanthabrown
01-09-2023, 01:45 AM
yeah, thats not what happend at all
you were being a A-hole so 4 of the 6 group members split and formed our own group without YOU or YOUR FRIEND. you threw a fit and hopped on your mkain and started killing the whole basement and KSing us. so if your going to cry cocodile tears at least tell the whole truth.
DocKins
01-09-2023, 01:54 AM
Remember back in school when you saw a kid in class doing something bad. Then you figure you can do it too but then teacher catches you? You say the other kids did it first and the teacher says too bad because you're the one they caught? This is that same situation.
You may have felt 100% justified, but you were the one that got caught doing something against the rules.
Now I am curious to hear the other side of the story.
GigasLugian
01-09-2023, 01:55 AM
And just got a week ban on discord. Wtf
Samanthabrown
01-09-2023, 02:00 AM
Hes on here crying crocodile tears.
I was there and seen it all, he was being a A-hole so 4 of the 6 people in the group left and formed our own group without him and his a-hole friend. He got mad and instantly threw a tantrum logged onto his main and started ksing mobbs.
If he would of tried to contest a part of the basement that would have been fine. But he dident, instead he went the other route and payed the price.
GigasLugian
01-09-2023, 02:02 AM
Lol never donating again, corrupt asf
keithbuzasjr
01-09-2023, 02:07 AM
Hes on here crying crocodile tears.
I was there and seen it all, he was being a A-hole so 4 of the 6 people in the group left and formed our own group without him and his a-hole friend. He got mad and instantly threw a tantrum logged onto his main and started ksing mobbs.
If he would of tried to contest a part of the basement that would have been fine. But he dident, instead he went the other route and payed the price.
GigasLugian
01-09-2023, 02:09 AM
Hes on here crying crocodile tears.
I was there and seen it all, he was being a A-hole so 4 of the 6 people in the group left and formed our own group without him and his a-hole friend. He got mad and instantly threw a tantrum logged onto his main and started ksing mobbs.
If he would of tried to contest a part of the basement that would have been fine. But he dident, instead he went the other route and payed the price.
You asked me to kick someone you didnt like or you would leave. I didnt kick him and you left. We still had the camp, and you and youre friends decided it was OK to take the camp from us. That's all it was, You were/are in the wrong.
keithbuzasjr
01-09-2023, 02:10 AM
Ah, now you change your story again?
I rest my case.
Find a new game to be toxic on. When you act like that and 4 people leave your group it's usually for a good reason.
GigasLugian
01-09-2023, 02:10 AM
Hes on here crying crocodile tears.
I was there and seen it all, he was being a A-hole so 4 of the 6 people in the group left and formed our own group without him and his a-hole friend. He got mad and instantly threw a tantrum logged onto his main and started ksing mobbs.
If he would of tried to contest a part of the basement that would have been fine. But he dident, instead he went the other route and payed the price.
Please try to explain how youre not a piece of shit here?
GigasLugian
01-09-2023, 02:11 AM
Ah, now you change your story again?
I rest my case.
Find a new game to be toxic on. When you act like that and 4 people leave your group it's usually for a good reason.
Change my story? I have never changed my story, this is what happened. What is your IN GAME character name during this?
keithbuzasjr
01-09-2023, 02:12 AM
And friends? I had never met those guys before that group. Funny how all 4 of us broke off at the same time. Maybe it's the way you were acting. Idk I'm done arguing though, just thought ide let everyone know the other side of the story. Have a good night.
GigasLugian
01-09-2023, 02:14 AM
And friends? I had never met those guys before that group. Funny how all 4 of us broke off at the same time. Maybe it's the way you were acting. Idk I'm done arguing though, just thought ide let everyone know the other side of the story. Have a good night.
Dont be afraid, whats your in-game character? I have screenshots, so dont be afraid of being "taken our of context".
GigasLugian
01-09-2023, 02:15 AM
which one of you are friends with Vis?
Danth
01-09-2023, 02:18 AM
You asked me to kick someone you didnt like or you would leave. I didnt kick him and you left.
Why'd they want to kick the guy?
It has no bearing on the later altercation, I'm just curious. That's somewhat unusual for pick-up groups.
Ripqozko
01-09-2023, 02:21 AM
which one of you are friends with Vis?
Sorry you dont got EQ, hope that helps. Consider not being a piece of shit.
GigasLugian
01-09-2023, 02:26 AM
Why'd they want to kick the guy?
It has no bearing on the later altercation, I'm just curious. That's somewhat unusual for pick-up groups.
They wanted to kick him because he was killing a mob by himself with his pet, instead of bringing the mob to the middle of the group. Which was weird I guess, but I had grouped with him for like 3-4 hours before any of these other people joined, so I wasnt about to kick him for something so strange.
https://i.imgur.com/Q9UZDDr.png
So from the SS Suii, Jean, Rollup and Siliven decided to from their own group and decide the camp was theirs, even after them being in my group for several hours
GigasLugian
01-09-2023, 02:32 AM
They wanted to kick him because he was killing a mob by himself with his pet, instead of bringing the mob to the middle of the group. Which was weird I guess, but I had grouped with him for like 3-4 hours before any of these other people joined, so I wasnt about to kick him for something so strange.
https://i.imgur.com/Q9UZDDr.png
So from the SS Suii, Jean, Rollup and Siliven decided to from their own group and decide the camp was theirs, even after them being in my group for several hours
BUT because I tried to secure our mobs and not let them steal them, i get banned for a week. And they get........ nothing. A WEEK BAN for killing maybe 10 mobs LOL. I wonder what they'll get.
Chortles Snortles
01-09-2023, 02:37 AM
https://i.imgur.com/vRXMz5P.gif
GigasLugian
01-09-2023, 02:46 AM
I wonder what they'll get.
just checked, they are all still in game, farming in unrest. So they get ZERO repercussions for actually stealing a camp. LOL
unsunghero
01-09-2023, 02:50 AM
They wanted to kick him because he was killing a mob by himself with his pet, instead of bringing the mob to the middle of the group. Which was weird I guess
How fucking dare he. I don’t group so I wouldn’t know, but wouldn’t they get the exp regardless if they were in close enough proximity or no?
Speaking of me not grouping, hearing about stuff like this reinforces it. People can’t work something so simple out and so they have to disband groups and kill steal?
Seems like you have 2 options: lawyerquest out of principal or leave and go to one of the other million places in the world that give exp that level, levels which fly by anywhere anyway. It’s an individual call on which is better I guess
Tongpow
01-09-2023, 02:51 AM
lmao
GigasLugian
01-09-2023, 02:52 AM
How fucking dare he. I don’t group so I wouldn’t know, but wouldn’t they get the exp regardless if they were in close enough proximity or no?
Speaking of me not grouping, hearing about stuff like this reinforces it. People can’t work something so simple out and so they have to disband groups and kill steal?
Seems like you have 2 options: lawyerquest out of principal or leave and go to one of the other million places in the world that give exp that level, levels which fly by anywhere anyway. It’s an individual call on which is better I guess
Well I dont have any options for a week now, since Visceryn decided to ban me for a week for killing mobs in my own camp. But I agree, what a goofy thing to try and get someone kicked for. I guess Visceryn agrees and/is friends with one of the turds in my SS, only explanation
Visceryn
01-09-2023, 02:57 AM
Moved post to rants and flames.
GigasLugian
01-09-2023, 02:58 AM
Moved post to rants and flames.
oh thank you so much
Danth
01-09-2023, 03:00 AM
The guide/GM may not have known the other folks at all. You torpedoed yourself as soon as you logged over to the other character. P99 staff has a history of coming down hard on players who take matters into their own hands in this type of fashion. You got off pretty lightly compared to a lot of folks I've known. You're supposed to petition and wait for a staff member to respond; if they don't show up until days later or not at all or rule in a manner you don't like, tough beans. It's hugely frustrating at times. Think of it as a cost of entry here.
keithbuzasjr
01-09-2023, 03:05 AM
The guide/GM may not have known the other folks at all. You torpedoed yourself as soon as you logged over to the other character. P99 staff has a history of coming down hard on players who take matters into their own hands in this type of fashion. You got off pretty lightly compared to a lot of folks I've known. You're supposed to petition and wait for a staff member to respond; if they don't show up until days later or not at all or rule in a manner you don't like, tough beans. It's hugely frustrating at times. Think of it as a cost of entry here.
Nah, he messed up when he started calling us vulger names in front of the GM then tried to walk away.
keithbuzasjr
01-09-2023, 03:08 AM
mans not innocent like hes making himself seem. could it have been handled better? sure, but it wasent. we couldent come to an agreement and he was not being rational.
Danth
01-09-2023, 03:11 AM
Nah, he messed up when he started calling us vulger names in front of the GM then tried to walk away.
That would be ill-advised. P99 has a definite "Don't act like a twit in front of staff" rule.
Menden
01-09-2023, 03:12 AM
What a pile of lies. Visceryn has no friends.
GigasLugian
01-09-2023, 03:15 AM
What else do I need to say? I posted screenshots, explained what happened
Wachaaa
01-09-2023, 03:18 AM
What else do I need to say? I posted screenshots, explained what happened
Uhhh nothing. Just come back in a week.
Danth
01-09-2023, 03:26 AM
If you have additional evidence, submit it in the petition forum. If you acted like a twit during some part of it, aknowledge it as an indication of good faith. Take whatever resolution you get and move on. Ultimately a crappy day in Unrest shouldn't be the end of the world for anyone. It's EQ and we've all had crappy days on it from time to time. They're trying to show you some leeway; publicly accusing the GMs of favoritism could be treated as grounds for termination if they were in a bad mood.
GigasLugian
01-09-2023, 03:29 AM
If you have additional evidence, submit it in the petition forum. If you acted like a twit during some part of it, aknowledge it as an indication of good faith. Take whatever resolution you get and move on. Ultimately a crappy day in Unrest shouldn't be the end of the world for anyone. It's EQ and we've all had crappy days on it from time to time. They're trying to show you some leeway; publicly accusing the GMs of favoritism could be treated as grounds for termination if they were in a bad mood.
I mean nothing more than more screenshots of them being douchebags and stealing camps. But I think you're right, calling GMs out will just result in worse reactions.
keithbuzasjr
01-09-2023, 03:39 AM
comon, lets see these screenshots.
skyfoxnz
01-09-2023, 03:54 AM
Please try to explain how youre not a piece of shit here?
Wow... Can you please name main and alts so I make sure they are on my in-game ignore list?
Jimjam
01-09-2023, 04:18 AM
What a pile of lies. Visceryn has no friends.
Reported for staff bashing. Enjoy your ban, Menden.
WokeCat
01-09-2023, 04:47 AM
I had something similar happen in the same zone (although I wasn't banned). The GM explained it to me that the basement isn't really a camp, it's actually like 3 different camps or something to that effect. I think if I remember correctly my group had been clearing the basement when a high level magician snuck ahead of us and took the dude at the end who drops Dwarven Work boots. We found out that he could technically do that since it's a separate camp.
This is also why I'm not really a fan of the PNP though. Particularly in a zone like Lower Guk, which is one of the most rich leveling experiences you can have in EQ when your group is allowed to roam around killing numerous named mobs and all of the adds in between. I feel like the zone has a 28 minute respawn timer because that was the intention when it was designed.
WokeCat
01-09-2023, 05:02 AM
I feel like the zone has a 28 minute respawn timer because that was the intention when it was designed.
And being relegated to only killing 1-3 mobs every 28 minutes doesn't really appeal to anyone other than max level characters looking for an easy AFK farm.
WokeCat
01-09-2023, 05:08 AM
And being relegated to only killing 1-3 mobs every 28 minutes doesn't really appeal to anyone other than max level characters looking for an easy AFK farm.
Although I do acknowledge that if there was no PNP in place Lower Guk would likely be a war of high level players running around constantly trying to snipe each other. A true PVP experience, lol.
WokeCat
01-09-2023, 05:12 AM
Although I do acknowledge that if there was no PNP in place Lower Guk would likely be a war of high level players running around constantly trying to snipe each other. A true PVP experience, lol.
Although this may not be accurate. When I played on Mischief I noticed that players were way more civil and willing to engage in negotiations since avoiding conflict was usually better than getting trained or KS'd.
Encroaching Death
01-09-2023, 07:23 AM
Was in unrest killing basement with a group. Some group members didnt like a mage in our group and demanded he/she be kicked. I said "no" and they left group to form their own group to take over basement camp.
They started to kill steal and take mobs. I told my lvl 29 mage groupmate to hold tight and logged in my level 55 mage. This was still our camp, and these thief's were not going to take it from us.
sceryun
Fast forward and hour later and I get a /tell from Visceryn telling me Im in the wrong and bans me for a week.
So its OK to take over any group in the game, and if the original group complains just report them and a GM will swoop down and ban you.
1. Sounds like you lost the vote to kick. You should've honored that.
2. Even when you are 100% correct and the players are running around screaming the N word and eating babies, you still cannot log onto your main and grief them.
3. If you act retarded when the cops show up, you will look like the guilty party.
4. Keep a cool head the next time, calmly petition and it will go different.
fortior
01-09-2023, 07:32 AM
this guy had a huge meltdown in the p99 discord when other players wanted some proof after he said 'dont group with this guy'. 100% he should not be playing this game. i'm not even sure this guy should be on the internet. god bless.
PatChapp
01-09-2023, 07:49 AM
Sounds like a week off would be good for you. It's just a week,it's just a game. Namaste or whatever
nostalgiaquest
01-09-2023, 08:21 AM
They wanted to kick him because he was killing a mob by himself with his pet, instead of bringing the mob to the middle of the group. Which was weird I guess, but I had grouped with him for like 3-4 hours before any of these other people joined, so I wasnt about to kick him for something so strange.
https://i.imgur.com/Q9UZDDr.png
So from the SS Suii, Jean, Rollup and Siliven decided to from their own group and decide the camp was theirs, even after them being in my group for several hours
biggest injustice in this thread is the char's name Scottstapp Creed. A clear naming policy violation that cannot be tolerated!
magnetaress
01-09-2023, 08:56 AM
Has anyone mentioned try red?
A pair or trio of mages or a pair of mages with a shaman buddy would level ridiculously fast.
Hope this helps.
magnetaress
01-09-2023, 08:59 AM
biggest injustice in this thread is the char's name Scottstapp Creed. A clear naming policy violation that cannot be tolerated!
Also this is the kind of name a ruskie spie would pick.
Morgrom
01-09-2023, 09:42 AM
Reported for staff bashing. Enjoy your ban, Menden.
It's not bashing if it's true. Can confirm it's true too.
Morgrom
01-09-2023, 09:44 AM
Was in unrest killing basement with a group. Some group members didnt like a mage in our group and demanded he/she be kicked. I said "no" and they left group to form their own group to take over basement camp.
They started to kill steal and take mobs. I told my lvl 29 mage groupmate to hold tight and logged in my level 55 mage. This was still our camp, and these thief's were not going to take it from us.
sceryun
Fast forward and hour later and I get a /tell from Visceryn telling me Im in the wrong and bans me for a week.
So its OK to take over any group in the game, and if the original group complains just report them and a GM will swoop down and ban you.
Let me try to explain what happened. You felt that you were wronged and took matters into your own hands instead of trying to handle things the right way. You got punished for being a vigilante.
It really is that simple.
Thank you and have a nice day.
ya.dingus
01-09-2023, 10:17 AM
You need to run obs with a buffer.
That way when GMs do lazy shit like this, you tell them "okay ban me" and then you post the video of them being lazy.
Nothing gets bans reversed faster than proof of laziness or incompetence in p1999.
ya.dingus
01-09-2023, 10:21 AM
Let me try to explain what happened. You felt that you were wronged and took matters into your own hands instead of trying to handle things the right way. You got punished for being a vigilante.
It really is that simple.
Thank you and have a nice day.
What's the right way? Let someone steamroll over you and ignore the play nice policy?
The OP is literally in the right in every interpretation of the rules.
1) They own the camp and therefore have the ruleset on their side.
2) Logging into another character while your group still owns the camp and hasn't left it, does not break ownership over said camp.
3) It's still their camp, and it's not zone disruption because it's not keeping them from going elsewhere in the zone and farming.
Before you become a guide do they require you to know the rules?
That's going to seem blunt but it's intended to be that way. This is a hamfisted attempt at enforcing something that's neither in good faith nor is it even remotely supported in the rules.
If I was this guy and I had the chance, I'd post the video of you guys not doing your job.
Sorry, but you're held to a higher standard as a guide, and this isn't it.
Absolutely unacceptable.
magnetaress
01-09-2023, 10:25 AM
No batmens on B99
hope this helps
try red :D
Toxigen
01-09-2023, 10:29 AM
Stern cringe at being upset over an XP group in Unrest...its motherfucking 2023.
Seek help, OP. You need this vacation.
eqravenprince
01-09-2023, 11:11 AM
They were wrong, you were wrong, lots of wrong here.
fortior
01-09-2023, 11:12 AM
What's the right way? Let someone steamroll over you and ignore the play nice policy?
The OP is literally in the right in every interpretation of the rules.
1) They own the camp and therefore have the ruleset on their side.
2) Logging into another character while your group still owns the camp and hasn't left it, does not break ownership over said camp.
3) It's still their camp, and it's not zone disruption because it's not keeping them from going elsewhere in the zone and farming.
Before you become a guide do they require you to know the rules?
That's going to seem blunt but it's intended to be that way. This is a hamfisted attempt at enforcing something that's neither in good faith nor is it even remotely supported in the rules.
If I was this guy and I had the chance, I'd post the video of you guys not doing your job.
Sorry, but you're held to a higher standard as a guide, and this isn't it.
Absolutely unacceptable.
absolutely maidenless post
Encroaching Death
01-09-2023, 11:16 AM
What's the right way? Let someone steamroll over you and ignore the play nice policy?
The OP is literally in the right in every interpretation of the rules.
1) They own the camp and therefore have the ruleset on their side.
2) Logging into another character while your group still owns the camp and hasn't left it, does not break ownership over said camp.
3) It's still their camp, and it's not zone disruption because it's not keeping them from going elsewhere in the zone and farming.
Before you become a guide do they require you to know the rules?
That's going to seem blunt but it's intended to be that way. This is a hamfisted attempt at enforcing something that's neither in good faith nor is it even remotely supported in the rules.
If I was this guy and I had the chance, I'd post the video of you guys not doing your job.
Sorry, but you're held to a higher standard as a guide, and this isn't it.
Absolutely unacceptable.
The guy can't grief with his main, even if he was 10,000% correct.
swift22
01-09-2023, 11:25 AM
This is some top tier shit. 5/7
Andyman1022
01-09-2023, 11:34 AM
imagine arguing about unrest in 2023
Croco
01-09-2023, 12:02 PM
you're dumb, enjoy your time off
Chortles Snortles
01-09-2023, 12:18 PM
"Y-y-y-YoU SHoULd KnOW BeTTeR~!!"
https://i.imgur.com/3YEdYQ5.gif
Toxigen
01-09-2023, 12:56 PM
Also OP's name is literally a mob from Asheron's Call.
Very likely was a non-factor shitbag on a carebear server.
All starting to make sense.
Jimjam
01-09-2023, 01:10 PM
No batmens on B99
hope this helps
try red :D
There are bat mens on red? :D
magnetaress
01-09-2023, 01:46 PM
There are bat mens on red? :D
More like buggymens :o
magnetaress
01-09-2023, 01:52 PM
What's the right way? Let someone steamroll over you and ignore the play nice policy?
The OP is literally in the right in every interpretation of the rules.
1) They own the camp and therefore have the ruleset on their side.
2) Logging into another character while your group still owns the camp and hasn't left it, does not break ownership over said camp.
3) It's still their camp, and it's not zone disruption because it's not keeping them from going elsewhere in the zone and farming.
Before you become a guide do they require you to know the rules?
That's going to seem blunt but it's intended to be that way. This is a hamfisted attempt at enforcing something that's neither in good faith nor is it even remotely supported in the rules.
If I was this guy and I had the chance, I'd post the video of you guys not doing your job.
Sorry, but you're held to a higher standard as a guide, and this isn't it.
Absolutely unacceptable.
absolutely maidenless post
Guides / GMs should have to spend a minimum of a year on red. Let's say 54 days /played and a year since account creation on red in order to be endowed guide / gm powers.
Bluebies aren't able to government themselves.
Jimjam
01-09-2023, 02:26 PM
Also OP's name is literally a mob from Asheron's Call.
Very likely was a non-factor shitbag on a carebear server.
All starting to make sense.
You won’t be laughing in seven days time when a level 55 magician steals your ghoul.
skyfoxnz
01-09-2023, 02:43 PM
What's the right way? Let someone steamroll over you and ignore the play nice policy?
The OP is literally in the right in every interpretation of the rules.
1) They own the camp and therefore have the ruleset on their side.
2) Logging into another character while your group still owns the camp and hasn't left it, does not break ownership over said camp.
3) It's still their camp, and it's not zone disruption because it's not keeping them from going elsewhere in the zone and farming.
Before you become a guide do they require you to know the rules?
That's going to seem blunt but it's intended to be that way. This is a hamfisted attempt at enforcing something that's neither in good faith nor is it even remotely supported in the rules.
If I was this guy and I had the chance, I'd post the video of you guys not doing your job.
Sorry, but you're held to a higher standard as a guide, and this isn't it.
Absolutely unacceptable.
Yeah nah mate, you don't call your daddy for kid's fight ands smack other kids with it.
Bardp1999
01-09-2023, 02:49 PM
Im assuming what happened is the GM read the chat logs and determined that you are a bully and a piece of shit and gave you a 7 day time out regardless of whether the camp was yours or not.
Why did the group want to kick the level 29 mage in the first place? I have a feeling the answer to this question would probably clear up a lot of the confusion about your ban.
fortior
01-09-2023, 02:52 PM
hey OP take the hint, get the fuck out and play somewhere else
Encroaching Death
01-09-2023, 03:24 PM
Yeah nah mate, you don't call your daddy for kid's fight ands smack other kids with it.
NRqren2hPj0
magnetaress
01-09-2023, 03:40 PM
He's short and old. Plus striking someone over 50 is a felony in my state.
magnetaress
01-09-2023, 03:41 PM
Bones are also probably brittle for real too from years of alcoholism.
Encroaching Death
01-09-2023, 03:43 PM
My sister thinks Billy Bob Thornton is really hot in Bad Santa.
I swear, I still don't understand women sometimes.
magnetaress
01-09-2023, 03:44 PM
I'd have sex with him if I was a 10 in a bikini and a 5 in the morning.
Encroaching Death
01-09-2023, 03:47 PM
I'd have sex with him if I was a 10 in a bikini and a 5 in the morning.
https://media.tenor.com/nrZnjXnvcS0AAAAd/osita-aki-and-paw-paw.gif
What a pile of lies. Visceryn has no friends.
Did you check in his freezer ?
Stigion
01-09-2023, 06:09 PM
Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I will launch my investigation into Visceryn and his antics.
Tongpow
01-09-2023, 06:20 PM
My sister thinks Billy Bob Thornton is really hot in Bad Santa.
I swear, I still don't understand women sometimes.
he was a bad mother fucker in the Yellowstone prequel, idk how accurate to Jim Courtright it is but holy shit
https://i.imgur.com/8NLUcNc.jpg
Bardp1999
01-09-2023, 06:55 PM
Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I will launch my investigation into Visceryn and his antics.
https://i.imgur.com/srE0RJE.gif
unsunghero
01-09-2023, 07:07 PM
“You’re dad’s doing this for you”
I fuckin love it
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8xIZVMJjvHQ
unsunghero
01-09-2023, 07:08 PM
*your
Morgrom
01-09-2023, 08:20 PM
What's the right way? Let someone steamroll over you and ignore the play nice policy?
It's up to staff to enforce the PNP not the players.
The OP is literally in the right in every interpretation of the rules.
1) They own the camp and therefore have the ruleset on their side.
2) Logging into another character while your group still owns the camp and hasn't left it, does not break ownership over said camp.
3) It's still their camp, and it's not zone disruption because it's not keeping them from going elsewhere in the zone and farming.
Before you become a guide do they require you to know the rules?
That's going to seem blunt but it's intended to be that way. This is a hamfisted attempt at enforcing something that's neither in good faith nor is it even remotely supported in the rules.
If I was this guy and I had the chance, I'd post the video of you guys not doing your job.
Sorry, but you're held to a higher standard as a guide, and this isn't it.
Absolutely unacceptable.
You don't like our decision, apply to become a guide. Since you seem to know everything, you might even do better. I might caution you though, you have only his word this is all that happened. And since you mentioned this being a job, please talk to management on my behalf, because I haven't gotten a paycheck yet.
GigasLugian
01-09-2023, 08:26 PM
https://i.imgur.com/cxmy3z6.png
misterbonkers
01-09-2023, 08:44 PM
https://i.imgur.com/cxmy3z6.png
my guy, just eat the 7 days for not playing nice. people had a problem and you made it worse. accept it and move on
Stigion
01-09-2023, 08:46 PM
Disgusting how Apathe is involved in this, the plot thickens. I will add this to my notes.
GigasLugian
01-09-2023, 08:48 PM
my guy, just eat the 7 days for not playing nice. people had a problem and you made it worse. accept it and move on
I am eating it lol. The amount of hate I've received is crazy, but p99 "staff" shouldnt just go around abusing their "power" for friends etc
Cry first. Do not swear or retaliate in any way.
If someone shows up stealing your camp, etc not much you can do but just let them kill it hope a guide or gm rules in your favor. Bend over and just take it. When they read logs the other person will appear in the wrong.
I recommend everyone starting using OBS.
GigasLugian
01-09-2023, 09:12 PM
Cry first. Do not swear or retaliate in any way.
If someone shows up stealing your camp, etc not much you can do but just let them kill it hope a guide or gm rules in your favor. Bend over and just take it. When they read logs the other person will appear in the wrong.
I recommend everyone starting using OBS.
I didnt bend over, but I was bent over in the end LOL. RIP
Encroaching Death
01-09-2023, 09:29 PM
https://i.imgur.com/cxmy3z6.png
And now he's faking screen shots.
Lol RnF has been great these past couple of days
Tongpow
01-09-2023, 09:37 PM
You don't like our decision, apply to become a guide. Since you seem to know everything, you might even do better. I might caution you though, you have only his word this is all that happened. And since you mentioned this being a job, please talk to management on my behalf, because I haven't gotten a paycheck yet.
put ekco in charge, nobody gets any fun until someone sells me a fucking white dragon cloak.
moved to resolved.
Tongpow
01-09-2023, 09:38 PM
speaking of cloaks made of white dragon scales, who the fuck has it on blue. thanks
unsunghero
01-09-2023, 09:44 PM
please talk to management on my behalf, because I haven't gotten a paycheck yet.
Yeeeeahhh you’re gonna have to talk to payroll about that
In the meantime why don’t you go ahead and get a can of raid and go down in the basement and take care of our roach problem down there
Mmm-k? Greeeat
cd288
01-10-2023, 12:24 AM
mans not innocent like hes making himself seem. could it have been handled better? sure, but it wasent. we couldent come to an agreement and he was not being rational.
Lol says the asshole who apparently split off from the original group and tried to take the camp. Doing that at all makes you a piece of shit. Anyone with disposable chars should train this dude a few times
cd288
01-10-2023, 12:29 AM
Let me try to explain what happened. You felt that you were wronged and took matters into your own hands instead of trying to handle things the right way. You got punished for being a vigilante.
It really is that simple.
Thank you and have a nice day.
Sorry but please explain how this ruling makes sense in any way shape or form. There was a group there at the camp. Select members of that group decided to leave the group and try to take the camp for themselves, screwing over the rest of their former group mates. To help continue to hold their camp (which it still was at this time) one of the original group mates got on his mage while other members of the original and continuing group stayed logged in at the camp. The party at fault here is the people who bailed on the group and tried to take the camp.
Your ruling here means I could join a trio or something at, say, frenzy to get access to the camp and then after a little bit leave it and just start clearing the camp myself. And it’s now my camp and there’s nothing the original group can do about it.
I get that mistakes happen in rulings sometimes (and I certainly appreciate all that you guys do as volunteer staff here btw) but I’m not sure how this is not considered one of them.
keithbuzasjr
01-10-2023, 12:35 AM
Sorry but please explain how this ruling makes sense in any way shape or form. There was a group there at the camp. Select members of that group decided to leave the group and try to take the camp for themselves, screwing over the rest of their former group mates. To help continue to hold their camp (which it still was at this time) one of the original group mates got on his mage while other members of the original and continuing group stayed logged in at the camp. The party at fault here is the people who bailed on the group and tried to take the camp.
Your ruling here means I could join a trio or something at, say, frenzy to get access to the camp and then after a little bit leave it and just start clearing the camp myself. And it’s now my camp and there’s nothing the original group can do about it.
I get that mistakes happen in rulings sometimes (and I certainly appreciate all that you guys do as volunteer staff here btw) but I’m not sure how this is not considered one of them.
4 out of the 6 people in the group wanted one member gone, thats the majority of the group. he lost vote to kick and dident honor it. so he himself was removed.
aussenseiter
01-10-2023, 12:35 AM
4 out of the 6 people in the group wanted one member gone, thats the majority of the group. he lost vote to kick and dident honor it. so he himself was removed.
absolute democracy
keithbuzasjr
01-10-2023, 12:42 AM
Lol says the asshole who apparently split off from the original group and tried to take the camp. Doing that at all makes you a piece of shit. Anyone with disposable chars should train this dude a few times
ah yes, because you were there so your an expert on the topic right? please school us in your ways o great one.
GigasLugian
01-10-2023, 12:46 AM
ah yes, because you were there so your an expert on the topic right? please school us in your ways o great one.
I was there. 3 dudes split off from the main group. They started kill stealing mobs from our main group. I said "hey, this is camped" and they said "yah it is". I got my mage to join our group and they got their gm/csr friend Visceryn
keithbuzasjr
01-10-2023, 12:50 AM
I was there. 3 dudes split off from the main group. They started kill stealing mobs from our main group. I said "hey, this is camped" and they said "yah it is". I got my mage to join our group and they got their gm/csr friend Visceryn
its was 4 but nice try, you even named all of us earlier in the post.
GigasLugian
01-10-2023, 12:51 AM
its was 4 but nice try, you even named all of us earlier in the post.
ok 3-4. And you were one of them? LOL how are none of you banned.
keithbuzasjr
01-10-2023, 12:52 AM
I was there. 3 dudes split off from the main group. They started kill stealing mobs from our main group. I said "hey, this is camped" and they said "yah it is". I got my mage to join our group and they got their gm/csr friend Visceryn
next time honor the majority vote to kick and listen to your party, and dont be an a-hole when they bring it up. also probably not a good idea to hop on your main and startt KSing
aussenseiter
01-10-2023, 12:56 AM
next time honor the majority vote to kick and listen to your party, and dont be an a-hole when they bring it up. also probably not a good idea to hop on your main and startt KSing
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ek3xNmQXEAAzjwS.jpg
GigasLugian
01-10-2023, 12:57 AM
next time honor the majority vote to kick and listen to your party, and dont be an a-hole when they bring it up. also probably not a good idea to hop on your main and startt KSing
Well like I have explained. Me and that mage had been at the camp for 4 + hours. You had just got there. It's not like we were starved on mobs, infact we were waiting on spawn timers, so we were killing fast. And when you left, you can't just stat killing our mobs, like you did. You seem to avoid the fact you and your new "group" started stealing kills from us. Which is why I brought my mage in.
Which I can admit now was a bad idea I guess. But calling in your buddy Visceryn was equally as bad. And the fact tor posting here acting like an innocent victim is real shitty, but thats what I expect from you. Shit.
keithbuzasjr
01-10-2023, 01:03 AM
Well like I have explained. Me and that mage had been at the camp for 4 + hours. You had just got there. It's not like we were starved on mobs, infact we were waiting on spawn timers, so we were killing fast. And when you left, you can't just stat killing our mobs, like you did. You seem to avoid the fact you and your new "group" started stealing kills from us. Which is why I brought my mage in.
Which I can admit now was a bad idea I guess. But calling in your buddy Visceryn was equally as bad. And the fact tor posting here acting like an innocent victim is real shitty, but thats what I expect from you. Shit.
someone posted in here that you had a meltdown on discord and got booted as well... signes point to the facts that your not a very good person. but w/e not gonna argue with ya, also i never clainmed to be innocent i said it could have been handled better.
but the fact remains that the basement is not 1 camp, matter of fact the basement is serveral camps, and obviosly if your wondering why you got banned then you need to read the play nice policy again, instead of throiwng a full blow tantrum on the forums about getting a 7 day bann from a 23 year old elf sim. gotta take a look in the mirror at some point bud.
GigasLugian
01-10-2023, 01:16 AM
someone posted in here that you had a meltdown on discord and got booted as well... signes point to the facts that your not a very good person. but w/e not gonna argue with ya, also i never clainmed to be innocent i said it could have been handled better.
but the fact remains that the basement is not 1 camp, matter of fact the basement is serveral camps, and obviosly if your wondering why you got banned then you need to read the play nice policy again, instead of throiwng a full blow tantrum on the forums about getting a 7 day bann from a 23 year old elf sim. gotta take a look in the mirror at some point bud.
Meltdown? No, I simply posted about what happened, similar to my first post and was banned for a week in the discord by SUPRISE! Visceryn
Chortles Snortles
01-10-2023, 01:21 AM
https://i.imgur.com/kNjst05.gif
keithbuzasjr
01-10-2023, 01:27 AM
Meltdown? No, I simply posted about what happened, similar to my first post and was banned for a week in the discord by SUPRISE! Visceryn
in here playing the world smallest violin looking for the smallest bit of sympathy lmao. kinda pathetic. gl to you.
GigasLugian
01-10-2023, 01:31 AM
in here playing the world smallest violin looking for the smallest bit of sympathy lmao. kinda pathetic. gl to you.
Thats a weird way to say "I was wrong", but thanks?
Arvan
01-10-2023, 02:17 AM
This thread is amazing classic backfire nice work pals
Foxplay
01-10-2023, 02:55 AM
Cant resolve camp issue on at-level toon, thinks logging to higher level toon to bully lowbie zone is the proper response
Number of times this doesn't make somebody look like the A-hole = 0
Jimjam
01-10-2023, 03:29 AM
next time honor the majority vote to kick and listen to your party, and dont be an a-hole when they bring it up. also probably not a good idea to hop on your main and startt KSing
I’m fine with the ruling of don’t be a dick / vigilante, I’m not comfortable with this democratic angle though. The leader of the group is in charge of decisions. Any vote is advisory nit binding unless the leader chooses.
titanshub
01-10-2023, 03:42 AM
This is the exact reason <KWSM> has the unrest question on our application. Lol
fortior
01-10-2023, 07:15 AM
nothing matters except for the OP bringing a 55 mage to zone disrupt in a leveling zone actively being xped in. i'm looking forward to the next retarded meltdown when his suspension ends.
Encroaching Death
01-10-2023, 07:22 AM
nothing matters except for the OP bringing a 55 mage to zone disrupt in a leveling zone actively being xped in. i'm looking forward to the next retarded meltdown when his suspension ends.
Yep.
If OP avoided going postal with his mage and instead calmly petitioned, I'm sure things would have gone differently.
He could have been inventing a way to cure cancer while in Unrest. Doesn't matter. He flew off the handle and went rogue (mage).
And they petitioned about it. And if you act crazy, you will look like the guilty party. The admins are just humans, after all. They aren't all-knowing gods.
magnetaress
01-10-2023, 09:36 AM
if OP was on red the camp woulda been his until someone logged in their 60 wizard :p
swift22
01-10-2023, 09:53 AM
https://i.imgur.com/cxmy3z6.png
Lol this is a joke right? You can’t possibly think that’s proof…
magnetaress
01-10-2023, 09:59 AM
looks solid to me !
magnetaress
01-10-2023, 09:59 AM
next step is for him to make a video of it scrolling up in a chat log
Encroaching Death
01-10-2023, 10:47 AM
Lol this is a joke right? You can’t possibly think that’s proof…
Woah....Joe Biden plays P99??
https://i.postimg.cc/QMCHYw2p/ewvewwwwww.jpg
Snaggles
01-10-2023, 11:25 AM
You could have split up the basement.
Why did they want to boot the mage? In that level range (and in general) a mage is an extremely functional dps member. If they aren’t AFK AF or not assisting. How bad was this mage on a scale from 1-10? Lol the unrest drama is real. I know it’s a long run through the cauldron but Mistmoore isn’t far away.
Encroaching Death
01-10-2023, 11:35 AM
Why did they want to boot the mage?
Apparently the guy was killing his own mobs separate from the group.
Sure, weird. They could have asked him to assist instead of kicking him.
Who had the camp before? Did OP join the others at that camp or vice versa?
If they joined OP and the Mage at that spot that they've been at, then the other 4 should have left to another camp after the failed vote.
It sounds like they just assumed control of the camp because they were the majority.
However, all of this is useless if OP screws up by logging onto his main and going nuclear.
cd288
01-10-2023, 11:39 AM
Lol this is a joke right? You can’t possibly think that’s proof…
Oh hey look it's like the third burner account with one or two posts used to comment against OP. Couldn't be the same person could it? Hmmmmm
cd288
01-10-2023, 11:41 AM
I’m fine with the ruling of don’t be a dick / vigilante, I’m not comfortable with this democratic angle though. The leader of the group is in charge of decisions. Any vote is advisory nit binding unless the leader chooses.
Yeah people are also ignoring that OP and one or two other players had already been there in a group camping the basement and killing things just fine. They nicely allowed these other people to join their group even though they didn't have to/didn't need them.
Said new joiners then decided something wasn't to their liking and decided to leave the group and steal the camp. That is absolute POS behavior and not acceptable. If you join a group at a camp and decide you don't like it and want to leave that's fine...but you don't get to try and steal the camp that group had been at for hours before you got there.
cd288
01-10-2023, 11:43 AM
4 out of the 6 people in the group wanted one member gone, thats the majority of the group. he lost vote to kick and dident honor it. so he himself was removed.
You showed up to a group that had already been there. Decided you didn't like something. Left the group and tried to steal the camp. You guys are in the wrong.
magnetaress
01-10-2023, 11:47 AM
Yeah people are also ignoring that OP and one or two other players had already been there in a group camping the basement and killing things just fine. They nicely allowed these other people to join their group even though they didn't have to/didn't need them.
Said new joiners then decided something wasn't to their liking and decided to leave the group and steal the camp. That is absolute POS behavior and not acceptable. If you join a group at a camp and decide you don't like it and want to leave that's fine...but you don't get to try and steal the camp that group had been at for hours before you got there.
The proper move is:
a) ban everyone involved
b) collect enough voice and video data of visceryn to make deep fakes
k9quaint
01-10-2023, 11:48 AM
What a pile of lies. Visceryn has no friends.
Savage.
But if he did have "friends", they would probably be in his basement. :D
magnetaress
01-10-2023, 11:48 AM
Woah....Joe Biden plays P99??
https://i.postimg.cc/QMCHYw2p/ewvewwwwww.jpg
Never stop being a decaying skeleton
Encroaching Death
01-10-2023, 11:52 AM
You guys are in the wrong.
Sure...until OP went postal.
It's like a scenario where a person gets shot unlawfully. The brother of the victim gets angry and decides to go over to the shooter's house and murder their entire family.
Naturally, the focus is off the original shooter.
Encroaching Death
01-10-2023, 11:53 AM
Never stop being a decaying skeleton
rofl, I didn't even realize that - that's my new nickname for him now
swift22
01-10-2023, 12:13 PM
Oh hey look it's like the third burner account with one or two posts used to comment against OP. Couldn't be the same person could it? Hmmmmm
I'm Swift22 on the p99 Discord, you can definitely look me up and see me laughing at OP during his initial meltdown, lmfao
swift22
01-10-2023, 12:16 PM
Yeah people are also ignoring that OP and one or two other players had already been there in a group camping the basement and killing things just fine. They nicely allowed these other people to join their group even though they didn't have to/didn't need them.
Said new joiners then decided something wasn't to their liking and decided to leave the group and steal the camp. That is absolute POS behavior and not acceptable. If you join a group at a camp and decide you don't like it and want to leave that's fine...but you don't get to try and steal the camp that group had been at for hours before you got there.
Sure it's POS behaviour, but uh... it's not up to the players to enforce the PnP policy... especially by bringing their main to KS to "enforce" their own version of the PnP policy. What's so hard about that to understand?
Allishia
01-10-2023, 12:54 PM
I always let my pet solo mobs away from group. The mage was using a fire pet, most of that's pet DMG is from DMG shield.../nod
I would let fluffy off tank adds in groups all the time, the enchanters eventually just accepted it and quit yelling at me :p
Visceryn
01-10-2023, 01:28 PM
Savage.
But if he did have "friends", they would probably be in his basement. :D
This one made me laugh!
Toxigen
01-10-2023, 01:40 PM
Disgusting how Apathe is involved in this, the plot thickens. I will add this to my notes.
Apathe is a weak-wristed woke cat person.
Hope this helps.
Encroaching Death
01-10-2023, 02:13 PM
Apathe is a weak-wristed woke cat person.
Hope this helps.
https://media.tenor.com/r_fh_0-5Xy4AAAAC/anime-boy.gif
apathe
01-10-2023, 02:43 PM
https://media.tenor.com/r_fh_0-5Xy4AAAAC/anime-boy.gif
I thought doxing was banned here
cd288
01-10-2023, 03:35 PM
Sure it's POS behaviour, but uh... it's not up to the players to enforce the PnP policy... especially by bringing their main to KS to "enforce" their own version of the PnP policy. What's so hard about that to understand?
You seem to have too thick a skull to understand. OP and his remaining groupmates never left the camp. They were also there before you (or whomever else in this thread) joined their group. As a result, nothing they were doing, even when they brought a 55 mage, was KSing because it was still their camp the entire time.
That's why the ruling is in error.
By your argument, you could roll up with, say, yourself and two others and ask a duo if they would like some more people. If the duo is nice and says yes, you can then "vote" to kick the duo from the group (which vote will succeed because you and your buddies who just joined are in the majority) and then take the camp and there's nothing the duo can do about it. That's a totally flawed loophole in the PNP and not the intention of the policy. Hopefully Galach takes a look at some point.
Encroaching Death
01-10-2023, 03:36 PM
Just ignore c288.
He's functionally retarded.
swift22
01-10-2023, 03:42 PM
You seem to have too thick a skull to understand. OP and his remaining groupmates never left the camp. They were also there before you (or whomever else in this thread) joined their group. As a result, nothing they were doing, even when they brought a 55 mage, was KSing because it was still their camp the entire time.
That's why the ruling is in error.
By your argument, you could roll up with, say, yourself and two others and ask a duo if they would like some more people. If the duo is nice and says yes, you can then "vote" to kick the duo from the group (which vote will succeed because you and your buddies who just joined are in the majority) and then take the camp and there's nothing the duo can do about it. That's a totally flawed loophole in the PNP and not the intention of the policy. Hopefully Galach takes a look at some point.
So you /petition instead of taking matters into your own hands. There's a process, it wasn't followed, and instead OP decided to break the PNP. He fucked around and found out.
What aren't you understanding here? He violated the PNP whichever way you look at it.
swift22
01-10-2023, 03:43 PM
Just ignore c288.
He's functionally retarded.
I'm starting to see that. Looks like a ForumQuest'r
Infectious
01-10-2023, 04:25 PM
Dirt napped by a guide and suspended for a week. LOL! This server is the best.
Chortles Snortles
01-10-2023, 04:27 PM
https://i.imgur.com/ycteNaz.gif
Knuckle
01-10-2023, 04:38 PM
Never stop being a decaying skeleton
The sacred duty of planar protector is for a chosen few.
Jimjam
01-10-2023, 05:24 PM
You seem to have too thick a skull to understand. OP and his remaining groupmates never left the camp. They were also there before you (or whomever else in this thread) joined their group. As a result, nothing they were doing, even when they brought a 55 mage, was KSing because it was still their camp the entire time.
That's why the ruling is in error.
By your argument, you could roll up with, say, yourself and two others and ask a duo if they would like some more people. If the duo is nice and says yes, you can then "vote" to kick the duo from the group (which vote will succeed because you and your buddies who just joined are in the majority) and then take the camp and there's nothing the duo can do about it. That's a totally flawed loophole in the PNP and not the intention of the policy. Hopefully Galach takes a look at some point.
Agreed on most of what you say, but bear in mind it was the vigilante attitude that caused the ban more than the (maybe not) Ksing.
swift22
01-10-2023, 05:39 PM
On the other edge of the sword, one could argue (and has argued) that /camping to your other character is logging off and relinquishing the camp. Though his mage buddy apparently was still there, so technically can still lay claim to the camp? But all of basement isn't a single camp, so the logic doesn't fly there. But then the argument could be made "well dude's solo, he's not able to solo this camp and he's not FTEing in reasonable amount of time to hold the camp"
Moral of the story, don't escalate the knife fight by bringing a gun to it.
Tongpow
01-10-2023, 06:02 PM
if OP was on red the camp woulda been his until someone logged in their 60 wizard :p
people log on their 60 wizards when mad on blue also, that vanq ranger is fucked in the head though. standing by that.
Knuckle
01-10-2023, 06:11 PM
One thing is interested in knowing is why they wanted to kick his mage friend from the group. Chat logs leak please
Tongpow
01-10-2023, 06:17 PM
One thing is interested in knowing is why they wanted to kick his mage friend from the group. Chat logs leak please
either gamerwords, not min/maxing enough, afk too much..etc..etc
i can't see the logs but uh this isn't 20 questions or anything. try page 1 of the thread
CancerMage
01-10-2023, 06:23 PM
shoulda called em slurs.
Chortles Snortles
01-10-2023, 06:30 PM
i'm a high elf woman you shitlord
(lol)
cd288
01-11-2023, 12:40 AM
On the other edge of the sword, one could argue (and has argued) that /camping to your other character is logging off and relinquishing the camp. Though his mage buddy apparently was still there, so technically can still lay claim to the camp? But all of basement isn't a single camp, so the logic doesn't fly there. But then the argument could be made "well dude's solo, he's not able to solo this camp and he's not FTEing in reasonable amount of time to hold the camp"
Moral of the story, don't escalate the knife fight by bringing a gun to it.
Basement is generally a single camp yes. I don’t think you get any sort of “reasonable time” argument when you’re the late joiners who created the issue of the guy not being able to clear in a reasonable time because you bailed
Danth
01-11-2023, 12:46 AM
Basement is generally a single camp yes.
That's player convention only: P99 staff has repeatedly considered it two or more camps when contested. You see the same type of situation in some other zones, notoriously Velketor's.
P99 staff *really* dislikes players taking matters into their own hands. Intent matters in that sense, and will outweigh rule-lawyering letter of the law. It's frustrating at times, especially off hours when staff is frequently not online at all and consequently there's zero recourse against troublemakers, but their house, their rules, so we as players can either like it or lump it.
fortior
01-11-2023, 03:14 AM
Guy with almost four thousand p99 forum posts: “why are other people normal by not posting here ten times a day?? It must be a conspiracy”
Samanthabrown
01-11-2023, 03:27 AM
OP getting dragged threw this thread and im here for it.
Trexller
01-11-2023, 04:34 AM
lol yeah OP got eviscerated in this thread
good times forumquesting
Toxigen
01-11-2023, 09:42 AM
certainly takes the lead for best rnf 2023
swift22
01-11-2023, 09:53 AM
OP also got eviscerated and temp banned from Discord for the meltdown too. Popcorn all around. Good start to 2023.
Is there a Bingo card for RNF that includes faking screenshots of GMs as one of the squares?
Toxigen
01-11-2023, 11:37 AM
havent seen a greater need for a vacation since kabull's rant on arcler after his boot
cd288
01-11-2023, 12:42 PM
Guy with almost four thousand p99 forum posts: “why are other people normal by not posting here ten times a day?? It must be a conspiracy”
I mean, it’s a pretty common thing that happens in rnf threads and it’s very obvious here lol. Suddenly OP is brigaded by multiple single post forum accounts that all seem to be pretending to be individual members of the group and essentially instantly respond to each other whenever the other one comments. It’s obviously one person lol
swift22
01-11-2023, 12:51 PM
I mean, it’s a pretty common thing that happens in rnf threads and it’s very obvious here lol. Suddenly OP is brigaded by multiple single post forum accounts that all seem to be pretending to be individual members of the group and essentially instantly respond to each other whenever the other one comments. It’s obviously one person lol
I mean, you’re objectively wrong in this case. I just never post on the forums, but you can find me in Discord all the time. OP posted this thread to Discord during his meltdown, hence why I came here for the lulz.
Do you think I just have multiple single post accounts I created 8 years ago waiting for this thread to come up?
I mean, it’s a pretty common thing that happens in rnf threads and it’s very obvious here lol. Suddenly OP is brigaded by multiple single post forum accounts that all seem to be pretending to be individual members of the group and essentially instantly respond to each other whenever the other one comments. It’s obviously one person lol
You're right that it happens in virtually every RNF thread where someone is bitching about something, but they're not being brigaded.
swift22
01-11-2023, 01:12 PM
You're right that it happens in virtually every RNF thread where someone is bitching about something, but they're not being brigaded.
Yeah I count something like 8 low-post count accounts in this thread, most being 5+ years old, one being from 2021 and one being from 2022. Probably non-ForumQuesters that jumped in on the Discord popcorn when OP posted the thread in there.
Someone needs to take the tinfoil hat off.
Are you an atheist? If so, please provide scientific evidence any of this happened.
Are you an atheist? If so, please provide scientific evidence any of this happened.
bro cool it on the identity politics this is an RNF thread
bro cool it on the identity politics this is an RNF thread
Atheism and the requirement for scientific evidence can be switched on and off like a light bulb...got it.
Plot twist: the GM was in the group you were teaching a lesson to and he submitted a ticket to himself to ban you for it.
swift22
01-11-2023, 01:59 PM
I identify as a polyamoroustheist
I identify as a polyamoroustheist
You can identify as a horse but it won't make your dick any bigger than what it really is.
When I ride the hounds of Hell....twist my foot :mad:
swift22
01-11-2023, 02:25 PM
You can identify as a horse but it won't make your dick any bigger than what it really is.
That’s where you’re wrong buckaroo.
Encroaching Death
01-11-2023, 03:37 PM
/petition I require a horse cock, please
/petition I require a horse cock, please
There you go
https://i0.wp.com/myhartlands.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/CLOCK2.jpg
Oh, that missing 'L' wasn't a typo ?
Encroaching Death
01-11-2023, 04:49 PM
I'll take it anyway
fortior
01-12-2023, 01:02 AM
I mean, it’s a pretty common thing that happens in rnf threads and it’s very obvious here lol. Suddenly OP is brigaded by multiple single post forum accounts that all seem to be pretending to be individual members of the group and essentially instantly respond to each other whenever the other one comments. It’s obviously one person lol
Look at regdates, newbie.
magnetaress
01-12-2023, 08:56 AM
Op is def a clean whistle which is probably why the original group was trying to kick him.
BTW I been in a ton of fireplace groups. Often with a fungid monk pally or ranger. They often kill the smol mobs solo out of camp if puller. Faster pulls that way and less running around.
It's kinda fhey and not classic butt like I said. Op probably the only one with a clean whistle.
Everyone posting in this thread def has a complex.
Infectious
01-12-2023, 10:50 AM
Op is def a clean whistle which is probably why the original group was trying to kick him.
BTW I been in a ton of fireplace groups. Often with a fungid monk pally or ranger. They often kill the smol mobs solo out of camp if puller. Faster pulls that way and less running around.
It's kinda fhey and not classic butt like I said. Op probably the only one with a clean whistle.
Everyone posting in this thread def has a complex.
I don't see what skin complexion has to do with this thread... Considering all the issues you have going on with your mental health.
magnetaress
01-12-2023, 10:55 AM
I don't see what skin complexion has to do with this thread... Considering all the issues you have going on with your mental health.
https://www.mentalhelp.net/advice/what-is-a-complex/
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