When should green reset?

[m004yu]

When should green reset?
ASAP?
March 16th?
>4 Months from now?

[Fammaden]

March to match the original release timeline is too perfect to pass up right now.

[Cen]

It would be amazing if we had a PERFECT timeline clone for march 16

[Fammaden]

The 16th is less important than just March itself, we know they aren't going to have every update pushed on an exact day of the month. So just having it line up with the original patch months would be simpler for people to keep up with and track.

[Swish]

Ending green is gonna break guilds up.

[ya.dingus]

Sooner the better. I'm trying to learn Ruby on Rails and PHP right now. Sooner I can do my self found troll warrior and troll SK, I'll be happier. At least break up the monotony of studying hours on end trying to implement stuff.

I love studying with EQ

[magnetaress]

Immediately.

[TrevarianX]

Never!

[Araxen]

Never...

[eqravenprince]

I don't care if green resets or not. I just want a fresh classic server.

[Jimjam]

I don't care if green resets or not. I just want a fresh classic server.

Teal 2.0

[Mammoth]

But I just got here..

[Rodcet]

I’m constantly lurking in hope of a new server announcement. I’ve had the itch to play but I’m trying to hold out for now. Hopefully we get some kind of announcement soon!

[daxchunjae1912]

Merge it to Blue for once already. That was the original plan from 2018.

[Sirquestalot]

I'd say never. (but that's not up to me)

Don't think Green should be merged into Blue, as they have grown to have different rulesets, from what I gather. Or maybe that was before the patch when Green got pet window and such.

In my opinion, Blue should just stay Blue, and Green should be the server in which future "greens" are merged into, if multiple future servers are launched.

I still suspect the next server is destined to be a Red, because I seriously can't fathom any other reason that a clicky effect like Cure poison on the Silver Bracelet would need a cast time added in the wave of clicky modifications, aside from the use in pvp. (You certainly aren't getting FTE with a Cure Poison)

[loramin]

In my opinion, Blue should just stay Blue, and Green should be the server in which future "greens" are merged into, if multiple future servers are launched.

That's the simple way to look at it, but try looking at it more holistically. If we have enough population for two healthy servers now, and we start a new server (which most players will switch to), is there really going to be enough players to support both Blue and Green 1.0?

Green 2.0 will draw new players, sure, but not like 2k-3k ... and again, even if it did, they're all going to Green 2.0. We won't be getting a ton of new people to fill out the two old servers, and they will ultimately have to be merged (regardless of anyone's opinions) to have a viable/healthy population server.

[magnetaress]

As soon as possible 49 62.03%

clear majority

the house has spoeken

[Jimjam]

If 51% is enough for brexit 62% is ample for rerollsit!


LETS GO!

[scala]

ASAP.
merge with blue and green 2.0 launch.

[Encroaching Death]

Delete the servers.

Play Everquest IRL.

[Sirquestalot]

But Loramin, by what I understand of your logic, blue should be a ghost town. And it's not. Yes, a large number of players would abandon the current Green for the 2.0 server, but there are a ton of us playing on Green now because it's no longer the toxic neckbeard cesspool that it was when everyone was trying to be first at everything. And the current environment will be more palatable to the players who left Green to begin with, so some of them will come back. AND Green will likely get even more friendly and welcoming as the remaining cesspool neckbeards leave for 2.0. Rinse and repeat... Green will become stronger each time a new 2.5, 3.0 or 99.9 opens and the players from the previous level of the eq multiverse are merged in.

And Encroaching... no. I vowed never to give SoE, Daybreak, or any new owner of that pile of garbage (because that's what Live has become) another cent of my money ever again.

[Encroaching Death]

Delete the servers.

Play Everquest IRL.

https://media.tenor.com/S6K4K6hcNRYAAAAC/lightning-bolt.gif

[cd288]

But Loramin, by what I understand of your logic, blue should be a ghost town. And it's not. Yes, a large number of players would abandon the current Green for the 2.0 server, but there are a ton of us playing on Green now because it's no longer the toxic neckbeard cesspool that it was when everyone was trying to be first at everything. And the current environment will be more palatable to the players who left Green to begin with, so some of them will come back. AND Green will likely get even more friendly and welcoming as the remaining cesspool neckbeards leave for 2.0. Rinse and repeat... Green will become stronger each time a new 2.5, 3.0 or 99.9 opens and the players from the previous level of the eq multiverse are merged in.

And Encroaching... no. I vowed never to give SoE, Daybreak, or any new owner of that pile of garbage (because that's what Live has become) another cent of my money ever again.

Blue and green are the same thing at this point. No reason to keep green once new server starts. Plus the staff aren’t paying for that server to stay open for no reason lol

[Sirquestalot]

Ahh. I didn't interpret the IRL correctly. In that case, no, because Ken Jeong in Role Models is enough for me to avoid LARPing, ever.

[milarion]

I think a lot of people would come back , like me. I stopped playing a few months into Kunark. I check every now and then for a new classic fresh server. i'D even pay a 2-3$ sub per month.

[eqravenprince]

Classic is best!

[Chikorita]

While it makes logical sense to merge green with blue and then start a new green and do that in x year cycles...

There should have been a clear announcement/disclaimer that
a) it was going to happen
b) the actual specific timeline
Otherwise the immense amount of gameplay effort spent by players will feel like it got robbed. And for what purpose?

Highly addicted veteran players already know the game inside and out. Upon resetting they are going to know the game better than when green launched, not worse. There is no going back to what it was like in original EQ before anyone even understood what MMORPGs were, let alone knowing all the ins and outs of EQ.

Blue was created as a beta for green. There really isn't much benefit in wiping green unless 40 people fighting over a cracked staff in greater faydark is fun. Seal Team or "Good Guys" will just rush sleeper, again, and we'll be right back to where we are...except all those moderate players who don't know the game inside and out and worked through the levels will see all their progress lost and will, likely, just leave completely.

The expertise of players will not be wiped. Just progress. Wiping progress hurts non-elite players the most. Non-elite players are the most interesting filler in this game as end game content in the two main alliances is already crowded and well handled. Join any of their guilds and you'll see how much organization and tools and strategy they already have. None of that will be wiped.

You'd be better off taking every level 60 char and moving it to blue if you wanted a good 'wipe'. And everyone logged out in EC tunnel. xD

Someone should take AI and have it generate a whole new set of quests, items and mobs for EQ and relaunch like that. I bet that would be interesting. Really interesting.

[eqravenprince]

While it makes logical sense to merge green with blue and then start a new green and do that in x year cycles...

There should have been a clear announcement/disclaimer that
a) it was going to happen
b) the actual specific timeline
.

Umm it was announced. And specific enough.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Green

[loramin]

And not only was it announced, it was literally announced as part of the announcement of Green itself (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2960116)!

The green server will, at a time yet to be decided, eventually merge into blue and start over again. This merge will not happen until at least 6 months after the last patch in velious (No earlier than January 2023).

The only question about whether the merge would happen came later, when players whined, and the staff said (essentially) "we'll wait and see":

Server Merge - The staff has had considerable discussion internally regarding the merging of Green into Blue at the end of the timeline. We've heard your concerns. At this time, we haven't made a final decision, but we have also decided that we will leave the door open. A lot can change in 3 years, and we may chose to leave Green running independently as we open additional servers in the future.

[Dolalin]

Hopefully not before I'm done old splitpaw. I just have to create the loot tables in my db and hand off the exports to p99 devs for imports/testing.

[VincentVolaju]

I check 2x every day to see if there is an announcement for Green 2.0. It's become a morning daily ritual that I do once I've got my chocolate milk. I just hope it comes out within the next 30 days or so. Work starts up again end of March, so that would super suck if it released right when I had to go back to work T_T rip.

[TrevarianX]

Maybe the gods reconsidered the merging evolution. Why not leave Blue alone, leave Green alone, and create another new server at some point? Don’t want to spread the player population too thin? Or don’t want to create more work with managing another new server? Dumping a relatively new server(Green) into a pretty old server(Blue) seems like a bad idea to me. I’ll not play a new server and am not hard corps. I understand others desire for these things, though.

[Jimjam]

Hopefully not before I'm done old splitpaw. I just have to create the loot tables in my db and hand off the exports to p99 devs for imports/testing.

Need to get newbie zone respawns working before new server imo.

Live had a very nice system that newbie mobs were linked in to triads and the triad would only respawn once all three had been killed.

The system made it so there was never a a shortage of mobs when newbie zones were busy, but also never an excess of mobs when they were quiet.

The system wasn't fully implemented in Paineel, which actually makes it more obvious. Usually each member of the triad would have separate (random?) spawn points, but in Paineel each triad shares one spot.

You can still witness the mechanic on live, go to Paineel, round up the mobs and AoE them. You'll see them respawn in threes across the newbie zone. You can then keep killing a triad and they'll respawn together pretty much straight away.

Implementing this will help so much, as well as making sure the zone's number of mobs scales spawning with the number of players killing them, it will prevent things like magician pets sitting on a young puma spawn monopolising it (instead maybe they'd monopolise three pumas!)

The other thing is, North Ro has WAAAAY to many decaying skeletons, no?

[Keebz]

Didn't they say they would wait at least a year after the final patch to recycle? If so, that puts us at July 2023 as the earliest date. You will notice they also announced they were recruiting staff recently, which is something they did about a year out from green launch.

Personally, while I would really love a new server, dicking around for 10 months or whatever it is in classic is a long fucking time. They probably aren't allowed to do this, but some sort of sped up progression would be a lot of fun.

[Jimjam]

Didn't they say they would wait at least a year after the final patch to recycle? If so, that puts us at July 2023 as the earliest date. You will notice they also announced they were recruiting staff recently, which is something they did about a year out from green launch.

Personally, while I would really love a new server, dicking around for 10 months or whatever it is in classic is a long fucking time. They probably aren't allowed to do this, but some sort of sped up progression would be a lot of fun.

Sounds like someone didn't spend enough time getting dwarf commanders drunk on honeymead or running a fashion industry business supplying red dresses to unscrupulous merchants.

[TercerRigo]

Count me among the lurkers that checks daily for news on Green 2.0 and Red 2.0.

[Agrimir]

Didn't they say they would wait at least a year after the final patch to recycle? If so, that puts us at July 2023 as the earliest date. You will notice they also announced they were recruiting staff recently, which is something they did about a year out from green launch.

Personally, while I would really love a new server, dicking around for 10 months or whatever it is in classic is a long fucking time. They probably aren't allowed to do this, but some sort of sped up progression would be a lot of fun.

Nah, it was six months at the earliest.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2960116

"The green server will, at a time yet to be decided, eventually merge into blue and start over again. This merge will not happen until at least 6 months after the last patch in velious (No earlier than January 2023)"

Granted, it could end up being July, or next year, or never. Hoping it's soon. I'd rather do the initial 1 to 50 grind during the winter months

[Keebz]

Oh shhhh. Thanks for fact checking me. It could really happen any time then. I suspect they will at least give us a decent heads up once they get the pieces in place.

[ya.dingus]

Here's what I think the outlook is like for merge or non-merge and restart...

A few points:

1) Right now the population on green and blue is split significantly (50/50).

2) Since the population is split significantly, there is real danger either merging or not-merging and alienating a large portion of your population with that decision.

3) Right now it remains in the project's best interest to remain silent on the issue until they can figure out to the best of their ability which route will be best for long term sustainability for the project.

4) This could result in a much longer wait than usual or a much shorter than anticipated wait to launch.

5) The least likely approach would be to re-release the exact date 3 years from when green launched, though the staff have done more surprising things in the past.

6) We'll see.

[cd288]

Nah, it was six months at the earliest.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2960116

"The green server will, at a time yet to be decided, eventually merge into blue and start over again. This merge will not happen until at least 6 months after the last patch in velious (No earlier than January 2023)"

Granted, it could end up being July, or next year, or never. Hoping it's soon. I'd rather do the initial 1 to 50 grind during the winter months

Would be kinda cool if they launched green 2.0 on same day that eq originally launched

[Humerox]

Blue and green are the same thing at this point. No reason to keep green once new server starts. Plus the staff aren’t paying for that server to stay open for no reason lol

Server-wise yes. Socially, not even close. I have high-level toons on blue I won't ever play again because of social toxicity. Conversely, Green is wonderful...and I've enjoyed every minute on the server since returning from my long hiatus. I'm not saying there isn't drama, but overall the server is 100x better than blue as far as social environment goes.

Red is a lost cause, lol. RIP 60 epic cleric I haven't played in years. :/

And if we all hit that "donate" button it eases the pain of running the servers. Just sayin~

[cd288]

Server-wise yes. Socially, not even close. I have high-level toons on blue I won't ever play again because of social toxicity. Conversely, Green is wonderful...and I've enjoyed every minute on the server since returning from my long hiatus. I'm not saying there isn't drama, but overall the server is 100x better than blue as far as social environment goes.

Red is a lost cause, lol. RIP 60 epic cleric I haven't played in years. :/

And if we all hit that "donate" button it eases the pain of running the servers. Just sayin~

lol at saying the toxicity at the end game of each server isn’t the same

[Castle2.0]

Teal had no toxicity. It was the only pure server. 10 out of 10 doctors, lawyers, and scientists agree. Studies were done.

And more importantly than all of that, Castle2.0 has spoken.

Let it be written.

[Drunkennewbie]

Why not just do:

1 - Blue/Green Merge Like intended. Congratulations we have a "Season" Setup. Every 3 years your characters get merged to Blue and that is the master server or a new Teal server that is the perma merge server?

2 - Restart Green March OR Create Server now and state the First patch will be delayed until original time of release(April 6). This will allow patches to keep up with real time line AND not make some people feel they are just leveling characters on a server being merged.

In all actually I wish they were allowed to do some "custom" edits to the game. New Quests/New made up bosses. So there is some challenge and when your character gets merged you still have something else to look for. (Nothing extreme, holiday events and such but only ever allowed on blue)

[Humerox]

lol at saying the toxicity at the end game of each server isn’t the same

Don't think I said that. But from what I see in my guild chat there doesn't seem to be near the drama there was on blue. I do know there are a lot fewer asshats on the way up. ;)

[loramin]

And if we all hit that "donate" button it eases the pain of running the servers. Just sayin~

I'm not sure that's actually true. I've gotten the impression that the human element is P99's bottleneck: if we don't get a new server I'm not sure it will be because of a lack of funds, but may instead be because of a lack of volunteer staff.

[Jimjam]

If we donate like 50k we can hire a GM for a year :D

[HalflingWarrior]

There's nothing quite like a fresh EQ server launch. Classic WOW was a lot of fun for awhile, but the zones are totally empty these days unfortunately.

[HalflingWarrior]

Classic is best!

Hands down. Fresh-server Classic while nobody is twinked yet really demonstrates just how incredible EQ's game design actually is. The classes compliment each other perfectly, and group teamwork is required even in simple zones like Crushbone and Upper Guk. Considering EQ was basically the first cooperative, PVE-focused MMO, it really is astounding just how good the game is.

There's nothing quite like it, even to this day (though Vanguard came close, broken as it was. that game had LOADS of dungeons, starting as early as levels 8-10, that required pullers & CC & aggro management etc)

[Fammaden]

Server-wise yes. Socially, not even close. I have high-level toons on blue I won't ever play again because of social toxicity. Conversely, Green is wonderful...and I've enjoyed every minute on the server since returning from my long hiatus. I'm not saying there isn't drama, but overall the server is 100x better than blue as far as social environment goes.

Red is a lost cause, lol. RIP 60 epic cleric I haven't played in years. :/

And if we all hit that "donate" button it eases the pain of running the servers. Just sayin~

https://www.reddit.com/r/project1999/comments/10686b0/rampant_racism_in_good_guys_is_totally_acceptable/

Yeah, real amazing community by the looks of this, be a real shame to be forced to deal with blue players instead.

[ragontx]

Why not just do:

1 - Blue/Green Merge Like intended. Congratulations we have a "Season" Setup. Every 3 years your characters get merged to Blue and that is the master server or a new Teal server that is the perma merge server?

2 - Restart Green March OR Create Server now and state the First patch will be delayed until original time of release(April 6). This will allow patches to keep up with real time line AND not make some people feel they are just leveling characters on a server being merged.

In all actually I wish they were allowed to do some "custom" edits to the game. New Quests/New made up bosses. So there is some challenge and when your character gets merged you still have something else to look for. (Nothing extreme, holiday events and such but only ever allowed on blue)


How about erasing all green characters and leaving blue alone !! Why save the characters if most if not all will just re-roll on the new p99TLP.

[ya.dingus]

How about erasing all green characters and leaving blue alone !! Why save the characters if most if not all will just re-roll on the new p99TLP.

Cause blue is beta and probably should be purged. I deleted all my stuff on it.

This non-logic you use is bad. Just because you want to build up a character with a fresh start on a non-beta version of p99, doesnt mean you want to get rid of it later.

Blue is a cess pool but at this point, I just don't care. I want some fresh green.

[Drunkennewbie]

How about erasing all green characters and leaving blue alone !! Why save the characters if most if not all will just re-roll on the new p99TLP.

Some people may want to play that character again. Just like some games that do "seasons" where your character is delete or pushed to another server, people still play that master server. Some enjoy it, some use it as testing.

The issue I can see in the long run though is you are limited on how many characters per server. So the merge would and could cause corruption of data issues. So Teal may be the best bet and in the future all other Greens will be "Select who to transfer" and than it merges that character and after a year deletes the old server for remake.

[loramin]

How about erasing all green characters and leaving blue alone !! Why save the characters if most if not all will just re-roll on the new p99TLP.

Because the goal of this place is to emulate classic, and live EQ never deleted characters.

[Drunkennewbie]

I mean to be honest, it doesn't matter. The Staff will do what they feel is best and so far nothing has been announced or mention its all speculation. We just have to patiently wait till they decide to ether tell us or do it. I hope they would tell us soon like is it worth leveling a character on green atm or just wait till their new release?

[eqravenprince]

Checking in to see if any updates on new server. It's becoming increasingly hard for me to play these days when new server is imminent.

[Malikail]

How about erasing all green characters and leaving blue alone !! Why save the characters if most if not all will just re-roll on the new p99TLP.

Talk about hyperbole. 89 votes is not a majority of anything, its a tiny percentage of the player base of green, most of whom are too busy w/ life and actually playing on green to bother with the forums.

I vote never. I never want to see another start up server nor would i feel any need to jump on one. It was hilarious but not fun last time. If your idea of fun is watching hundreds of players camping every individual spawn point in zones like nektulos, then a new server is for you. Its a sight to see, that's for sure.

[Raj]

Talk about hyperbole. 89 votes is not a majority of anything, its a tiny percentage of the player base of green, most of whom are too busy w/ life and actually playing on green to bother with the forums.

I vote never. I never want to see another start up server nor would i feel any need to jump on one. It was hilarious but not fun last time. If your idea of fun is watching hundreds of players camping every individual spawn point in zones like nektulos, then a new server is for you. Its a sight to see, that's for sure.

Lol this time period/situation you just described probably lasted less than a week....

Stay strong my friends! :cool:

[Knuckle]

You mean when should Orange Server Launch? No idea. this year? next year? i mean i just fkin got my epic and level 60 on green, let me simmer in it for a bit you gd pixel fiends.

[Toxigen]

the sooner they merge the better

[TrevarianX]

What are the benefits of merging Green with Blue? It ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

[Swish]

Merge green into red.

[Raj]

Merge green into red.

[Encroaching Death]

Merge green into red.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/DopeyParchedInchworm-size_restricted.gif

[Rodcet]

Merge green into red.

Too based. This post needs deleted. It’s not meant for mortal eyes.

[ya.dingus]

Delete green and blue and start teal seasonal servers with a teal normal server as the dump.

I want to be pure.

[Coridan]

What are the benefits of merging Green with Blue? It ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

To genuinely answer your question: Green has always intended to be a cyclical server, not just be Blue 2. So once Green is caught up to Blue (effectively Luclin launch), it's time for Green to recycle and start back at classic. People rightfully want to keep their Green characters, but there won't be enough of a population to justify having two servers effectively in the retirement home (and then what? another in 3 1/2 years when Green 2 sunsets?) so the plan is that Blue is essentially the retirement home for people's characters after a Green cycle.

[nemi]

To genuinely answer your question: Green has always intended to be a cyclical server, not just be Blue 2. So once Green is caught up to Blue (effectively Luclin launch), it's time for Green to recycle and start back at classic. People rightfully want to keep their Green characters, but there won't be enough of a population to justify having two servers effectively in the retirement home (and then what? another in 3 1/2 years when Green 2 sunsets?) so the plan is that Blue is essentially the retirement home for people's characters after a Green cycle.


I eagerly await in hopes that this happens.

[Ooloo]

Delete green and blue and start teal seasonal servers with a teal normal server as the dump.

I want to be pure.

Ah I remember teal, the magic server where if two people both want a mob they have a gentlemanly discussion about who should get it!

[ya.dingus]

What should happen to blue and green:

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.tenor.com%2Fimages%2F894f35 f1261b8c630197ed8a1aacd43d%2Ftenor.gif&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=96cd7c178b836ac48dc5b16c4a87b9452e154c4aa11ab1 2918feb7b5c6c715be&ipo=images


It must be purged!

[TrevarianX]

How would character names be effected? The Green server announcement only says you may not name a character on green the same name as a character already on Blue, unless it’s on the same account. Does this work in the opposite direction? Who has rights to a name in case of a merger? What about character slots if a merge happens? As in having characters possibly auto deleted or auto renamed, or forced to select which to delete or rename? If there are characters on same account on both blue and green? Can these questions make an Ogre’s head explode?

P.S. won’t matter cause servers won’t ever merge

[Gentry88]

ASAP

[cd288]

How would character names be effected? The Green server announcement only says you may not name a character on green the same name as a character already on Blue, unless it’s on the same account. Does this work in the opposite direction? Who has rights to a name in case of a merger? What about character slots if a merge happens? As in having characters possibly auto deleted or auto renamed, or forced to select which to delete or rename? If there are characters on same account on both blue and green? Can these questions make an Ogre’s head explode?

P.S. won’t matter cause servers won’t ever merge

The only way to have a duplicate name on green is if you made it on the same account that has the name on blue. I.e., it’s your blue account with your blue char you can reuse that name on green if you use the same login. Otherwise you cannot duplicate the name. When the merge occurs they said your duplicate name from green will have an X added to the end of it.

They also gave advance warning before green launched saying that when they merged if your account between blue and green had more than 8 chars then you wouldn’t be able to access the ones at the bottom of the list without deleting others. So if you had 10 chars for example the bottom two would not be deleted but wouldn’t be selectable until you deleted two of the other 8. They advised people to create separate accounts if they could for this reason. If someone didn’t do that then that’s a big mistake on their part for not heeding the warning from the staff.

[Cen]

I'm starting to delete and consolodate characters and names to have 8 in total after a merger so I'm gonna look silly if it don't happen

[Danth]

I'm starting to delete and consolodate characters and names to have 8 in total after a merger so I'm gonna look silly if it don't happen

P99 has its own sense of time. I don't know if or when a merge will happen, but should it, I hope players are given a reasonable advance warning--months, at least. Wouldn't want to see that type of thing suddenly dumped into the community's lap with little or no notice.

Danth

[eqravenprince]

I'm bored with Green and Blue. Need fresh server!

[TrevarianX]

What would a merged Blue/Green(yellow?) server be like? I get that many of you want to hit the reset button and do it all over again, but for those that just want to enjoy the characters they have and built and haven’t speed/run their way through Norrath, what kinda of things might we anticipate? I’m sure this opens for the thread up for jokes, but maybe some insight would be good to have.

[yorumi]

What would a merged Blue/Green(yellow?) server be like? I get that many of you want to hit the reset button and do it all over again, but for those that just want to enjoy the characters they have and built and haven’t speed/run their way through Norrath, what kinda of things might we anticipate? I’m sure this opens for the thread up for jokes, but maybe some insight would be good to have.

Wouldn't really be any different from blue now. Green resets to classic and goes through the expansions, existing green characters are moved to blue but otherwise nothing on blue really changes. Blue stays locked in Velious era perpetually.

[TrevarianX]

I don’t quite mean the functionality, but the server vibe, zone crowds, economy, guilds, etc..

[yorumi]

I don’t quite mean the functionality, but the server vibe, zone crowds, economy, guilds, etc..

I doubt much would change. Most people on green probably want to stay on green and so wouldn't migrate to blue even if their character does.

[TrevarianX]

What are you saying? People like myself are forced from the developed Green server with my developed characters into a Blue server population. Worlds colliding! Meanwhile many also from green abandon current green to play new green. That seems to me like a lot of change regarding server vibes.

[yorumi]

What are you saying? People like myself are forced from the developed Green server with my developed characters into a Blue server population. Worlds colliding! Meanwhile many also from green abandon current green to play new green. That seems to me like a lot of change regarding server vibes.

Well if you're worried about the server resetting why aren't you just playing on blue now? The purpose of green is to experience the EQ timeline. The purpose of blue is to be a permanent Velious era server.

[Toxigen]

welcome to blue sorry you dont got green hope this helps

[TrevarianX]

I’m imagining my perspective is shared by many. It’s basically a pace of play difference. Attack my question/perspective if you like, but I’d bet many are wondering about this. I don’t desire to replay the same evolution of my characters and the EQ timeline again. I did that, it was fun, and now I want to continue playing these characters and do things I’ve not gotten around to doing. You may be different and I respect that.

[magnetaress]

If green reset tonight I would reroll in it immediately even tho i really like red99

[Jimjam]

If green reset tonight I would reroll in it immediately even tho i really like red99

Nothing like that new server smell.

Red comes closest to it cos the low level world feels complete even with few players. It’s more enjoyable without twinks clearing house all around you.

Roll on new server!

[yorumi]

I’m imagining my perspective is shared by many. It’s basically a pace of play difference. Attack my question/perspective if you like, but I’d bet many are wondering about this. I don’t desire to replay the same evolution of my characters and the EQ timeline again. I did that, it was fun, and now I want to continue playing these characters and do things I’ve not gotten around to doing. You may be different and I respect that.

My point is the way green and blue would function was clearly communicated before you made the character. You wanted to make your character on blue but made it on green instead and now don't want the designed function of green to happen. And the thing is you can keep experiencing things, your character will just move to blue. If your guild and friends instead want to replay on green 2.0 nobody can really force them to play blue with you.

[Jimjam]

People catastrophising the merge imo. There will be a bunch of bros you know and hang out with, and a bunch you don’t. Literally exactly the same as premerge.

[magnetaress]

Nothing like that new server smell.

Red comes closest to it cos the low level world feels complete even with few players. It’s more enjoyable without twinks clearing house all around you.

Roll on new server!

People catastrophising the merge imo. There will be a bunch of bros you know and hang out with, and a bunch you don’t. Literally exactly the same as premerge.

Yep

This is a case of people clinging desperately to their beliefs instead of reality. Would be much better for everyone for green to consistently merge to blue and keep the box fresh.

Would be cool if green merged and wiped at the opening of every expansion. And whenever the sleeper woke. And 6 months or a year into velious. Let blue be the pixel palace where everyone has 13 bis 60s.

[cd288]

What are you saying? People like myself are forced from the developed Green server with my developed characters into a Blue server population. Worlds colliding! Meanwhile many also from green abandon current green to play new green. That seems to me like a lot of change regarding server vibes.

Do you not see how a new green will make old green obsolete? That vast majority of the population will leave for the new green. Better to merge with blue to have a workable population

[cd288]

I’m imagining my perspective is shared by many. It’s basically a pace of play difference. Attack my question/perspective if you like, but I’d bet many are wondering about this. I don’t desire to replay the same evolution of my characters and the EQ timeline again. I did that, it was fun, and now I want to continue playing these characters and do things I’ve not gotten around to doing. You may be different and I respect that.

Well I’m sure the staff will pay out of pocket to keep green open just for you. *eyeroll*

Your chars aren’t going anywhere they’re merging into blue which is still very active. There will be a couple hundred people from green who don’t play new green also so blue will be 1k pop at prime time in that case. You’ll be fine

[TrevarianX]

As previously stated, I understand those desiring to do it all again. Throw shade on my approach to the game if you like. I’ll welcome the *yellow server if/when that comes about. For those desiring to reset Green, I hope you have to keep waiting. A very long time.

[ya.dingus]

Well I’m sure the staff will pay out of pocket to keep green open just for you. *eyeroll*

Your chars aren’t going anywhere they’re merging into blue which is still very active. There will be a couple hundred people from green who don’t play new green also so blue will be 1k pop at prime time in that case. You’ll be fine

cd288 on that life long copium stream. Wants his deciever masks on his green characers so bad with his blue server.

keep sucking down that copium.

aint.never.gonna.happen.

[Cen]

I’m imagining my perspective is shared by many. It’s basically a pace of play difference. Attack my question/perspective if you like, but I’d bet many are wondering about this. I don’t desire to replay the same evolution of my characters and the EQ timeline again. I did that, it was fun, and now I want to continue playing these characters and do things I’ve not gotten around to doing. You may be different and I respect that.

I'm trying to be as polite as possible saying this, but you did totally sign up for the wrong server between the two. Even before green opened, it was ALWAYS said it was meant to merge to blue then a new green forms. I mean ultimately youll get moved to blue anyway, but it sounds like you'd be happiest if after you get blued, you stick to blue since its the perpetual Velious server.

Ultimately, the day each season reaches velious, the potential content is the same, and every day that passes both servers are closer to being identical economy wise. The alternative is doing a third server, but given how the population is now almost halved perfectly on the two servers, its gonna be kind of all over the place then.

[Drunkennewbie]

I'm trying to be as polite as possible saying this, but you did totally sign up for the wrong server between the two. Even before green opened, it was ALWAYS said it was meant to merge to blue then a new green forms. I mean ultimately youll get moved to blue anyway, but it sounds like you'd be happiest if after you get blued, you stick to blue since its the perpetual Velious server.

Ultimately, the day each season reaches velious, the potential content is the same, and every day that passes both servers are closer to being identical economy wise. The alternative is doing a third server, but given how the population is now almost halved perfectly on the two servers, its gonna be kind of all over the place then.

They still havent confirmed they are going to continue to merge with Blue. They also havent came out with anything in a long time. Someone did mention before that the rules between Blue and Green have some differences so that would also make it interesting on the merger. The character merging would also be a interesting concept since limitations of characters per account.


I look often and hope the Admins would at least be nice and put news out about p99 Green 2.0 but still here we are nothing. =/

[TrevarianX]

Nah, you’ve got me all wrong bro. I enjoyed the nostalgic run of Green through the progression. It was part of the appeal, as for many, of a player of the original game. I just don’t desire to repeat it again and again. But cheers to you if that’s what you’re chasing. I also read threads and listened to players about how “toxic” blue serve is, so I’m naturally concerned about the eventual vibe of a merged server. But it’s all good. Find your fun and so shall I.

[cd288]

Nah, you’ve got me all wrong bro. I enjoyed the nostalgic run of Green through the progression. It was part of the appeal, as for many, of a player of the original game. I just don’t desire to repeat it again and again. But cheers to you if that’s what you’re chasing. I also read threads and listened to players about how “toxic” blue serve is, so I’m naturally concerned about the eventual vibe of a merged server. But it’s all good. Find your fun and so shall I.

Neither server is more toxic than the other. I play on both and there’s the same exact toxicity in end game raiding and when it comes to valuable and in demand camps. If it’s toxicity that’s your concern, I have not had a different experience on either server (in fact it’s been worse on green at times although that was when there was just the old world and kunark out so things were a bit more crowded). On balance I guess id say blue can be slightly better since people are more laid back due to how long the server has been around but overall it’s essentially the same

[cd288]

cd288 on that life long copium stream. Wants his deciever masks on his green characers so bad with his blue server.

keep sucking down that copium.

aint.never.gonna.happen.

Who cares about guise of the deceiver? Such a dumb novelty item in general

Still waiting for you to stream deleting all your chars like you said you would. Until you put your money where your mouth is you’re just a whiney baby

[magnetaress]

Praying for some kinda reset soon 🙏

[Dajeeem]

has there been any officicial announcement?

[Jimjam]

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[sajbert]

has there been any officicial announcement?
Nope, the staff get their kicks keeping the playerbase in the dark. Around the corner could be a new green, or no new green ever, or a crippling nerf to enchanters because of some archeological obscure forum post find now gimping your main or new character. You never know!

Yes yes we should all be happy p99 exists but it WOULD be nice with a word every now and then.

[eqravenprince]

I'm bored with servers at this point. Just waiting on reset.

[zt004]

I am just returning to p99; can someone refer me to where I can find a summary of the different server attributes?

Reading between the lines, it looks to me like Green server periodically resets but Blue will always remain static?

Thanks!

[yorumi]

I am just returning to p99; can someone refer me to where I can find a summary of the different server attributes?

Reading between the lines, it looks to me like Green server periodically resets but Blue will always remain static?

Thanks!

That's pretty much it. We haven't had a reset of green yet so we really don't know exactly what will happen. It was said that green characters would be moved to blue for the rest but until it all happens we don't know for sure.

[TrevarianX]

Wait for the new Green server to start playing. It should be open in just a few more years ��

[Garnaak]

I voted asap.

I started on blue, 6 years before launch of green. Played for a while, real life took over, left for a while, came back when time permitted, etc. Pretty casual most times, with periods of harder core playtime mixed in.

Green rolled out, I jumped in. Fresh builds, less tunnelquest. That is the EQ I enjoy. Rolled lots of alts on green, got most into teens, some into 20s by the time velious came out. But once velious was out, why stay on green with higher prices and lower level toons, when I had higher leveled toons on blue and can gear them up much easier? Neither server at this point was playable for the self made character, outside of guilds like Auld Lang Syne, which I had a couple toons in. So, back to blue. Green characters collecting dust.

If a new green came out, I would roll one or two characters to focus on and try not to fall behind the timeline. That may be hard to do as a casual, but I do want to try again.

Blue and (old)green will still be there for me. The abandoned characters I have now on green may even get a fresh look and some playtime if they got merged with my mains on blue.

Edit-----

And yes, I read the disclaimer that the servers would eventually merge. So when I started rolling green toons along side my blue, I made a spreadsheet to track all my characters on all my accounts. Made sure the sum of blue + green characters did not go over 8 on any single login. Once I hit that point, I created a new login. They did not hide that bit of information, they were very open about it from the start.

[ddemers]

Considering this game is played by older people, I would hope they don't launch it in the spring/summer. I would think Late Summer/Early Fall would be ideal for most older gamers (fewer family commitments). Let's face it, the hardcore folks will race to the end no matter when it's released.



I would also opt for a slower release of content. Let the lower-level zones get used a lot more. Not everyone races to the end level, I find it a shame that there is so much unused content on these servers as is.

Let's face it the entire appeal of this Project is old content/game mechanics and the social interaction that is required to progress, I just think it would be awesome if somehow the lower-level stuff kept its appeal longer if servers are going to keep recycling, considering end game content is always available on Blue.

[ya.dingus]

Wipe blue, reset green, demand is Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow

[ishq]

A reset as soon as possible would be extremely neat and cool. :)

[Garnaak]

I would also opt for a slower release of content. Let the lower-level zones get used a lot more. Not everyone races to the end level, I find it a shame that there is so much unused content on these servers as is.

Let's face it the entire appeal of this Project is old content/game mechanics and the social interaction that is required to progress, I just think it would be awesome if somehow the lower-level stuff kept its appeal longer if servers are going to keep recycling, considering end game content is always available on Blue.

This is a great idea. Even just doubling the time of release patches would make the server have a 6-8 year lifespan. Enough time for casuals to enjoy the game. Poopsockers be damned!

Call it "P99 slow burn" or something

[ya.dingus]

NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW

however, spoiler:

It's gonna be a while. Project owners in secret are panicking about the decision because it's going to fracture the population depending on what they do.

When they make the announcement, they'll sound brash like it was "in the plan all along", but the truth is, they probably don't know what they're going to do.

[Cen]

My thought is this: They scheduled Kunark and Velious on exact days and stayed absolutely radio silent without reminding anyone, and dropped the expansions as stealthily as they could until they were live then made the announcements, even though we did have exact days from day 1. They stuck to it perfectly.

I have a hunch green season 2 will be dropped without a word, and they will do exactly what they said they would do from the start, and will post the news and announcement only after it goes live. Keeps server population consistent and not explosive

[A Knight]

I still have crippling paranoia, and I don't think it's going to go away anytime soon. I wish I could get serious therapy for it, but I have too many other problems I don't think they would understand. (Problems, and things they would think are problems.)

But if a new Green started. I would still probably have to try to play immediately.

So, I voted March 16th anyway.

[A Knight]

Sorry, I hope that post doesn't lower the server population count. /shrugs

I think you guys are probably a Russian lan website, so hopefully it doesn't matter.

[Fammaden]

My thought is this: They scheduled Kunark and Velious on exact days and stayed absolutely radio silent without reminding anyone, and dropped the expansions as stealthily as they could until they were live then made the announcements, even though we did have exact days from day 1. They stuck to it perfectly.

I have a hunch green season 2 will be dropped without a word, and they will do exactly what they said they would do from the start, and will post the news and announcement only after it goes live. Keeps server population consistent and not explosive

Merging the servers and launching the new one without a fucking word would be hilarious, but I doubt it.

[Jimjam]

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[Ooloo]

Merging the servers and launching the new one without a fucking word would be hilarious, but I doubt it.

Yeah I feel like they would have to at least announce a merge, if for no other reason than people who have multiple characters on the same account needing to figure out wtf they're gonna do about their extra characters. Or what about characters with the same name? My main on blue has the exact same name as my main on green and they're on the same account. Not sure what would happen in the event of a merge.

[magnetaress]

87% says let's do this.

My thought is this: They scheduled Kunark and Velious on exact days and stayed absolutely radio silent without reminding anyone, and dropped the expansions as stealthily as they could until they were live then made the announcements, even though we did have exact days from day 1. They stuck to it perfectly.

I have a hunch green season 2 will be dropped without a word, and they will do exactly what they said they would do from the start, and will post the news and announcement only after it goes live. Keeps server population consistent and not explosive

This is smart. It's definitely the right way.

[Zalora]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the original the idea to reset the server every 2 years and put the existing Green characters onto Blue? Was this plan changed since then?

[Fammaden]

Not two years, its more like three. The announcement was new green would be no less than six months after completion of the timeline. This month was six months past the end of Velious.

[Cen]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the original the idea to reset the server every 2 years and put the existing Green characters onto Blue? Was this plan changed since then?

Yes, its been in plain text there by Rogean since 2019 since before the server launched still there readable today, with one small addition a year later that there's always the possibility that plan can change to something else, but that's it.

[TrevarianX]

GMs be like Scarface when y’all keep askin’ for a Heifer with cheese too many times.

[Trexller]

I love how 60% of the entire community is sick to death of the current green server, and calling for immediate reset

gaze upon the mirror that you yourselves have polished.

[eqravenprince]

I love how 60% of the entire community is sick to death of the current green server, and calling for immediate reset

gaze upon the mirror that you yourselves have polished.

Huh? I don't even know what that means. Is that like stop and smell or the roses or something. Anyhow... I've been gazing for 3 years, it's been fun, time to do it again!

[Old_PVP]

Green should be reset the same time Red is. :D

[Jimjam]

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[Cen]

I mean if they instead for the next three years ran a purple season that merges into red then alternate seasons that would be cool with me too but that WILL NEVER HAPPEN EVER so keep dreaming, me.

[Gustoo]

Everyone ready for pvp 2.0 its going to be really fun and I will help the guys who suck badly.

[Valaden]

Well considering that at any given time there are less 60's than there are <60's running around, maybe they should cater to the majority that hasn't experienced end game yet.

If you want to experience 1-60 fresh again you can just delete your toons and start from scratch. Not everyone has to start over just to please you.

You kill the sleeper, f*ck the economy and then ask for everyone to be reset, no sympathy from me.

But that's just my opinion.

[Rivewin]

Lol. That’s cause everyone is on Alts

I tried playing a new character untwinked. There are no groups unless you know people cause everyone is higher level or power leveling in ZEM zones.

I gave up and said “I’ll wait for a relaunch”. I know me and at least 5 friends are just waiting.

[loramin]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the original the idea to reset the server every 2 years and put the existing Green characters onto Blue? Was this plan changed since then?

They never promised every 2 years, they just said no sooner than than January 2023:

The green server will, at a time yet to be decided, eventually merge into blue and start over again. This merge will not happen until at least 6 months after the last patch in velious (No earlier than January 2023)

And then they used people's whining as an excuse (I say "excuse" because there wasn't that much whining, and the staff never cared about whining before) to walk back their plans:

Server Merge - The staff has had considerable discussion internally regarding the merging of Green into Blue at the end of the timeline. We've heard your concerns. At this time, we haven't made a final decision, but we have also decided that we will leave the door open. A lot can change in 3 years, and we may chose to leave Green running independently as we open additional servers in the future.

[ya.dingus]

Lol. That’s cause everyone is on Alts

I tried playing a new character untwinked. There are no groups unless you know people cause everyone is higher level or power leveling in ZEM zones.

I gave up and said “I’ll wait for a relaunch”. I know me and at least 5 friends are just waiting.

Bro I'm playing untwinked now and doing just fine on a cleric.

[Coridan]

They never promised every 2 years, they just said no sooner than than January 2023:



And then they used people's whining as an excuse (I say "excuse" because there wasn't that much whining, and the staff never cared about whining before) to walk back their plans:

Honestly they could start green 2.0 and leave 1.0 running concurrently and then merge it once people realise it's a ghost town

[DeliciousHalflings]

Bro I'm playing untwinked now and doing just fine on a cleric.

Yea, but not worth the time if server is resetting, and the OG 50 leveling + raiding is the purest MMO experience out there. I want that, not trying to shoehorn my way into an already fucked up raid scene + not enough people to level with overall. I've got a fully twinked Druid from playing TunnelQuest with a couple donated pieces, and it's still not fun even on a solo character knowing it's essentially short-term.

Honestly they could start green 2.0 and leave 1.0 running concurrently and then merge it once people realise it's a ghost town

Not worth splitting the population even further. The people who would quit if Green merged are the same people who would just be sitting on Green, hurting the entire project overall by constantly trying to get people to play on a server that's the same thing as Blue, just a different group of childish dipshits in the raid scene. The people on current Green who only want to play on current Green are a detriment whose opinions need to be ignored.

[Trexller]

The people on current Green who only want to play on current Green are a detriment whose opinions need to be ignored.

This, 100%

[cd288]

Yea, but not worth the time if server is resetting, and the OG 50 leveling + raiding is the purest MMO experience out there. I want that, not trying to shoehorn my way into an already fucked up raid scene + not enough people to level with overall. I've got a fully twinked Druid from playing TunnelQuest with a couple donated pieces, and it's still not fun even on a solo character knowing it's essentially short-term.



Not worth splitting the population even further. The people who would quit if Green merged are the same people who would just be sitting on Green, hurting the entire project overall by constantly trying to get people to play on a server that's the same thing as Blue, just a different group of childish dipshits in the raid scene. The people on current Green who only want to play on current Green are a detriment whose opinions need to be ignored.

This dudes main complaint seems to be toxicity in particular in the raid scene and that’s why he doesn’t want to play on green or blue.

Who’s gonna tell him what green 2.0 will be like lol

[DeliciousHalflings]

This dudes main complaint seems to be toxicity in particular in the raid scene and that’s why he doesn’t want to play on green or blue.

Who’s gonna tell him what green 2.0 will be like lol

Lol raid scene is only cucked because people let it happen that way. Things were totally fine 10 years ago, before all the unskilled whiners made them make bullshit arbitrary rules for 'fair play'. Life isn't fair, and neither was EQ. #IB4evr!

[Jimjam]

Raiding on blue sounded an absolute shit show before velious. Probably contributed to people focusing on levelling alts, questing, etc more.

[Zalora]

In any case, I do hope the reset happens soon. I'm really looking forward to playing on a fresh server and none of these modern MMOs are doing it for me. :p

[void221]

I hope it stays the way it is now forever. :D




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[Ooloo]

We all know that anyone threatening to quit the game if they merge green into blue as per the original plan is bluffing. This is everquest. One does not simply quit everquest. You think the neckbeards are going to be able to resist flexing their neck-bearded prowess on a *fresh* vanilla server of the game we all know and love?? There is zero chance.

[Devorador]

ASAP! Lets revive classic experience...the BEST one, isnt It?

[Jimjam]

We all know that anyone threatening to quit the game if they merge green into blue as per the original plan is bluffing. This is everquest. One does not simply quit everquest. You think the neckbeards are going to be able to resist flexing their neck-bearded prowess on a *fresh* vanilla server of the game we all know and love?? There is zero chance.
Oh no blue/green merge!
✅ i’m leaving
✅ and this time I mean it.

:D :D :D

Whatever!

This project is about classic Everquest and classic Everquest means a server which is only a year or so old!

[cd288]

We all know that anyone threatening to quit the game if they merge green into blue as per the original plan is bluffing. This is everquest. One does not simply quit everquest. You think the neckbeards are going to be able to resist flexing their neck-bearded prowess on a *fresh* vanilla server of the game we all know and love?? There is zero chance.

Also it’s odd that people think some volunteer guy running his own server cares whether you quit or not lol. People forget this isn’t some game run by a company that wants your subscription fee or micro transaction money. You quitting doesn’t matter at all

[Jimjam]

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This is the last time i forget you (I wish I could)

[Sisythi]

Oh no blue/green merge!
✅ i’m leaving
✅ and this time I mean it.

:D :D :D

Whatever!

This project is about classic Everquest and classic Everquest means a server which is only a year or so old!

https://i.ibb.co/MncHjh6/fry.png

[DevGrousis]

I've been playing P99 off and on since about 2010, and unfortunately missed Green progression. Just jumped back into the game on Green (more populated), and it's sort of sad how quiet the newb zones are - but totally understandable since there is no more new progression to be had.

Still going to have fun, but hoping we'll hear some news about a merge/wipe/new server/whatever soon'ish :D

[cannobeers3]

Well played, JimJam.

[Absinthium]

I've been playing P99 off and on since about 2010, and unfortunately missed Green progression. Just jumped back into the game on Green (more populated), and it's sort of sad how quiet the newb zones are - but totally understandable since there is no more new progression to be had.

Still going to have fun, but hoping we'll hear some news about a merge/wipe/new server/whatever soon'ish :D

I haven't really had this experience. I am brand new to the server, and while there are an annoying number of twinks soloing content I couldn't hope to, I have also found a number of people who are also new to the game (P99, though one was literally, new to the game entirely) to group with and play with. I am dying to know what the statistics are on new players coming to the game.

[Kalik]

I'm new also, hope it doesn't reset for awhile I guess

[Enderenter]

If you're new to green, a brand new server starting is the best scenario for you. Starting out with a blank slate, when everyone else also has a blank slate is ideal imo.

[TrevarianX]

Don’t listen to these “wait for new server folks” or you’ll never play p99 ��

[Jimjam]

Don’t listen to these “wait for new server folks” or you’ll never play p99 ��

The best era of EQ is Right Now and always will be.

[solidious77]

I'm super excited to dive back in after a long break, but stumbling upon a recent(ish) call for a reset brings up mixed feelings haha. Lately, I've noticed a few similar discussions popping up on Reddit too (thanks to google tracking all my data probably haha).

I can't deny that the prospect of a fresh start, especially with everyone in the game, is always exhilarating (in any game really). It sparks ambition and sets the imagination racing with thoughts of new goals and revisiting old activities with more grit and skill.


Soo anyway, this might be a bit of a stretch, but perhaps worth considering -- that if the typical lifespan of a server is usually a few years, then a reset soon might align well with an official release of Monsters & Memories. They are making strides with development since I looked last!! and I suspect everyone in this community (even the p1999 devs) will want to spend a solid amount of time exploring that to the fullest.

Regardless, it would be great to have some advance notice before a reset, whenever it might happen. People from all walks of life would surely appreciate having time to prepare and confirmation that the progress of the past few months won't just vanish (yes, some selfish thoughts there lol).

That said, I can only imagine that planning, announcing, and executing such a significant change to the servers and population comes with countless nuances and challenges. So far, though, it's clear that all the big decisions made in the past have been for the best -- with the lights still on and the skeletons still cackling in 2024, this is all pretty great =)

[cd288]

I'm super excited to dive back in after a long break, but stumbling upon a recent(ish) call for a reset brings up mixed feelings haha. Lately, I've noticed a few similar discussions popping up on Reddit too (thanks to google tracking all my data probably haha).

I can't deny that the prospect of a fresh start, especially with everyone in the game, is always exhilarating (in any game really). It sparks ambition and sets the imagination racing with thoughts of new goals and revisiting old activities with more grit and skill.


Soo anyway, this might be a bit of a stretch, but perhaps worth considering -- that if the typical lifespan of a server is usually a few years, then a reset soon might align well with an official release of Monsters & Memories. They are making strides with development since I looked last!! and I suspect everyone in this community (even the p1999 devs) will want to spend a solid amount of time exploring that to the fullest.

Regardless, it would be great to have some advance notice before a reset, whenever it might happen. People from all walks of life would surely appreciate having time to prepare and confirmation that the progress of the past few months won't just vanish (yes, some selfish thoughts there lol).

That said, I can only imagine that planning, announcing, and executing such a significant change to the servers and population comes with countless nuances and challenges. So far, though, it's clear that all the big decisions made in the past have been for the best -- with the lights still on and the skeletons still cackling in 2024, this is all pretty great =)

There's no "reset"

If a merge happened you'd keep all your chars etc. They would just be on a combined server and eventually there might be a new fresh server as well.

[solidious77]

There's no "reset"

If a merge happened you'd keep all your chars etc. They would just be on a combined server and eventually there might be a new fresh server as well.

Thank you for being explicit! If there was a new server, many people (including myself) would want to start a new character there; so for many its effectively a reset.

My point was moreso that project 1999 is an amazing game. I am grateful I get to play and so I'm certainly not complaining; I'm just relaying what we all know. That EQ can be a demanding game, so it would be pretty great that IF there IS going to be a reset (or a new fresh server as you put it), that there is some communication around time-frame rather than just dropping the hammer and doing it overnight kinda thing.

If I recall there was a whole schedule for the green server launch and cool video too haha. So just judging by the past then there will likely be some communication anyway :cool:

[Castle2.0]

I'm ready to invest in another few backpacks of manastones on a fresh server.

Anyone else?

[Jimjam]

I'm ready to invest in another few backpacks of manastones on a fresh server.

Anyone else?

What kind of investment is that?

[magnetaress]

ya'll should just re-implement legacy items like they did on that 'other server' make them no drop and cooler looking )

[spoil]

Imagine if they launch the new server and assure everyone that legacy items will drop for a limited time as normal, then pull the rug out from under them at the last possible second.

[solidious77]

Imagine if they launch the new server and assure everyone that legacy items will drop for a limited time as normal, then pull the rug out from under them at the last possible second.

That sounds pretty entitled and a poignant statement about your time. These forums are kinda rough sometimes; I'm really surprised how many people are so thankless. I imagine that would come as a huge disappointment, but there are different ways to communicate that.

Probably so much tedious and painstaking work went into bringing you what you spend so many hours enjoying at zero cost.. or complaining about I guess in your case today.

A paid monthly subscription was also classic once, but nobody complains about not having to pay that anymore.. weird! :D

Regardless - I hope you have a great day!

[spoil]

That sounds pretty entitled and a poignant statement about your time. These forums are kinda rough sometimes; I'm really surprised how many people are so thankless. I imagine that would come as a huge disappointment, but there are different ways to communicate that.

Probably so much tedious and painstaking work went into bringing you what you spend so many hours enjoying at zero cost.. or complaining about I guess in your case today.

A paid monthly subscription was also classic once, but nobody complains about not having to pay that anymore.. weird! :D

Regardless - I hope you have a great day!

No, stupid; I'm not complaining. It's a reference to another server that I think a lot of people here will understand. Regardless, it's more in the spirit of appreciation for what we have on p99.

Have a super-duper elf day.

[cd288]

That sounds pretty entitled and a poignant statement about your time. These forums are kinda rough sometimes; I'm really surprised how many people are so thankless. I imagine that would come as a huge disappointment, but there are different ways to communicate that.

Probably so much tedious and painstaking work went into bringing you what you spend so many hours enjoying at zero cost.. or complaining about I guess in your case today.

A paid monthly subscription was also classic once, but nobody complains about not having to pay that anymore.. weird! :D

Regardless - I hope you have a great day!

He's talking about Project Quarm

[Duvain]

Imagine if they launch the new server and assure everyone that legacy items will drop for a limited time as normal, then pull the rug out from under them at the last possible second.

Yea that was major bs

[chillybob]

Team #NoMerger

https://media.tenor.com/hKxzQiQ8GMgAAAAM/cat-jam-cat.gif

[solidious77]

Project Quarm seems like playing poker with fake chips. Its the same game, but not really haha.

Merger or no merger, I only popped on the forums here to say what everyone new is thinking - am I about to waste 8 months if/when a new server drops?

I can't start on P99 with that looming over me, unfortunate because I've totally got the bug to dig in at the moment.. but imagine getting to 55+ and just got all your keys and then bam! new server haha.

Not that I deserve or am entitled to it, but official communication/update around that subject would be really cool

[WarpathEQ]

Considering there are years worth of threads exactly like this one I wouldn't waste your time worrying, in a few years the only difference will be a new header on the thread that someone else started to "discuss" the same thing.

Fact: No announcement or intention has been made by the staff, which are the only people that are able to effectuate such a change

Fact: All communication from CSR recently has been focused around doing things that require "no Devs". So it seems the subset of the subset of staff that would be needed to do this are effectively non-existent.

Pro-tip: stop wasting time speculating and start enjoying P99. Chances are you'll be gone from the game before the game is gone from you.

[cd288]

Project Quarm seems like playing poker with fake chips. Its the same game, but not really haha.

Merger or no merger, I only popped on the forums here to say what everyone new is thinking - am I about to waste 8 months if/when a new server drops?

I can't start on P99 with that looming over me, unfortunate because I've totally got the bug to dig in at the moment.. but imagine getting to 55+ and just got all your keys and then bam! new server haha.

Not that I deserve or am entitled to it, but official communication/update around that subject would be really cool

Depends on what you define as "waste" and how you would want to play your character at end game.

For instance, I play on Blue regularly. I don't find it that different than Green really. And if they merged and started a new server you'd likely be max level and raiding at that point, which would mean you could just continue to do that on the merged Blue/Green since the end game raiding scene never goes away.

"Waste" seems like kind of a nonsensical term here. The characters never go away, the server is always there to be played on.

[solidious77]

Depends on what you define as "waste" and how you would want to play your character at end game.

For instance, I play on Blue regularly. I don't find it that different than Green really. And if they merged and started a new server you'd likely be max level and raiding at that point, which would mean you could just continue to do that on the merged Blue/Green since the end game raiding scene never goes away.

"Waste" seems like kind of a nonsensical term here. The characters never go away, the server is always there to be played on.

I'm not sure why everyone on these forums seems to be wound up so tight haha. I think I will just not post here anymore.

I didnt mean to offend anyone by saying "reset" instead of "merge", or "waste" instead of "enjoy". A careless word may kindle strife, I suppose.

I'm quite sure I was clear about just asking for communication about future plans..but sorry for any misinterpretation and shared opinions. Cheers.

[razzdazz2]

Wait till you guys figure out that when Daybreak sold to Enad Global 7 and rebranded Darkpaw games. That new dad Enad Global 7 pretty much stated they would leave project 1999 alone as long as no new server popped up.
Holly is with blizzard now leaving no one to champion preservation and with new dad in the picture, nothing legal or binding is really in play now. Just tentative holding on to what we already have and being happy with it.

[spoil]

Yeah, that makes sense.

But I would say at this point Quarm is in direct competition with TLPs, to an extent that p99 never was. With the instanced raids, QoL comparable to live and the PoP progression timeline there's significant overlap with what the typical paying customer's want. That's why I'm back playing here, because Quarm is too much like a TLP.

[Toxigen]

quarm is hot garbage

[razzdazz2]

Quarm is wildly custom content that will sputter off. The pacing between expansions for QOL server is garbage. Changes to item stats and replacement legacy items drastically change what eq is about for some people (having stuff other people dont have or having items that are rare) in the eras before pop. I'd wager that most of the early quarmers like half or more have dipped off and the only ones who stayed are those who settled into successful guilds with people looking for the custom changes quarm offers without paying for a tlp. Which will taper off. Prolly like half of those who have dropped off prolly returned to p99 a much more stable and predictable experience.
If they have an eye on Quarm for Cease and Desist/Infringement suit they will give it time to hang it's self. Cause that cost them nothing.

[VENDER]

quarm is hot garbage

true:)

[cd288]

Yeah I didn't understand the expansion pacing for Quarm. Like yeah getting to Kunark a little quicker is certainly a positive. But isn't it like 6 months between each expansion no matter what? That seems kind of quick and was one of the things that turned me off.

Still might jump into it a little bit in POP era just to do some raids that I never did but other than that zero interest.

[Gloomlord]

quarm is hot garbage

Those instanced raids say otherwise.

[real_sauga_yoot]

Wait till you guys figure out that when Daybreak sold to Enad Global 7 and rebranded Darkpaw games. That new dad Enad Global 7 pretty much stated they would leave project 1999 alone as long as no new server popped up.
Holly is with blizzard now leaving no one to champion preservation and with new dad in the picture, nothing legal or binding is really in play now. Just tentative holding on to what we already have and being happy with it.

Been thinking along these lines for a while now. This makes perfect sense, so yeah, doubt we'll get another server soon or ever.

[cd288]

Wait till you guys figure out that when Daybreak sold to Enad Global 7 and rebranded Darkpaw games. That new dad Enad Global 7 pretty much stated they would leave project 1999 alone as long as no new server popped up.
Holly is with blizzard now leaving no one to champion preservation and with new dad in the picture, nothing legal or binding is really in play now. Just tentative holding on to what we already have and being happy with it.

Not sure what you mean by nothing legal or binding is in play. There's no way to make that statement without knowing what the actual contract says.

[razzdazz2]

A gentlemen's agreement with the previous company is not a contract.

[cd288]

A gentlemen's agreement with the previous company is not a contract.

Believe Rogean has said there's a legal agreement in place that gives them the right to operate under the IP.

[jolanar]

A gentlemen's agreement with the previous company is not a contract.

That doesn't sound true at all. If a company gets bought out they still have to enforce previous contracts they can't just ignore them. Otherwise that's a ludicrously easy get out of jail free card.

We also don't know exactly what they agreed to or how it was agreed upon. At a minimum verbal agreements are still legally binding, and since both sides have stated some kind of agreement happened it's not like Daybreak can just ignore that.

That being said, if a company with lawyers really wanted to harass Rogean I don't know that he would have the will or money to fight back so it all might be moot to begin with.

[Drueric]

Is this just chatter or are they really gonna reset the server? Personally I would like that. The server has become stale. I missed the poll, but I would have voted "As Soon As Possible"

[Swish]

Is this just chatter or are they really gonna reset the server? Personally I would like that. The server has become stale. I missed the poll, but I would have voted "As Soon As Possible"

You won't know until one of them appears one day to say it's happening. Could be tomorrow, could be next year, could be never.

[Drueric]

You won't know until one of them appears one day to say it's happening. Could be tomorrow, could be next year, could be never.

Uh yeah so in other words its just unsubstantiated rumor.

[Duik]

Uh yeah so in other words its just unsubstantiated rumor.

Here is a hint. Anything posted not from a dev about server reset/merge/new is rubbish speculation.

Did that clear it up?

[caveslug]

Uh yeah so in other words its just unsubstantiated rumor.


I think we have some really old posts, that the truthers like to pull out. But they're years old, and set nothing in stone. Other then this is the "plan",and it's literally been radio silence since then.

Personally I think the dev has no desire for it, including the work involved with it.

[cadoipi]

Server reset yesterday for me. I deleted all my characters and rolled a wood elf warrior.

[Jimjam]

Here is a hint. Anything posted not from a dev about server reset/merge/new is rubbish speculation.

Did that clear it up?

I reject your opinion on that. Just an unsubstantiated rumour.

[Swish]

New green would ruin some people's lives. They'll quit jobs or book extended time off for /list pixels.

[chillybob]

The real thing thats gonna happen is Daybreak reintroducing true-classic experience of EQ to live TLP's in attempt to compete w/ WoW Classic

What better time than 25th Anniversary ;)

[coobie]

I don't care if green resets or not. I just want a fresh classic server.

*bump*

[Duik]

My mate has been checked!
Beaten with the Bludgeon Of The Logical Mind.

Server merge with Luclin expansion it is then.

[WhodinaNameless]

What would reset be.. just timelines or characters also or both

[cd288]

Don't worry there's no "reset". If they eventually did a new server they would merge Blue and Green so your existing characters would be on that server and if you wanted you could roll one on the brand new server too (starting from day one classic).

[Soothsayer]

I'm conflicted about a fresh server. On one hand, it's always fun to start fresh... but the fact that warriors are basically useless until Kunark is a depressing reality check. After I hit level 50 on Green and got relegated to being a somewhat mediocre melee damage dealer, the magic wore off and I ended up taking an extended break. Raiding was seriously lame at the initial level 50 cap.

If a fresh server happens, I'd love to see some class tuning to make the experience feel more balanced (i.e. knights getting better disciplines to make them more viable as main tanks in Kunark and Velious, warriors getting Provoke to make them less reliant on clickies / high end haste and weapons, a functional aggro dump for rogues, etc).

I get that there are purists who don't want any changes, but the project has been going on for like a decade and a half at this point. I want to see SOMETHING new instead of a carbon copy of the exact same OG timeline.

[coobie]

I don't care if green resets or not. I just want a fresh classic server.

*bump*

[spoil]

I get that there are purists who don't want any changes, but the project has been going on for like a decade and a half at this point. I want to see SOMETHING new instead of a carbon copy of the exact same OG timeline.

If you don't like the classic game, then I can highly recommend Project Quarm.

[Calidore]

I get that there are purists who don't want any changes, but the project has been going on for like a decade and a half at this point. I want to see SOMETHING new instead of a carbon copy of the exact same OG timeline.

Shouldn't you be on EQ Live then? I thought this server was called "Project 1999."

[sajbert]

Fresh seems good but man it's a slog and like others have been saying, it comes with a lot of downside. Poor itemization, massive competition for very few leveling and item camps and raiding is a shitfest with X asshat guild monopolizing everything until Velious.

I'd only really like to be able to get a guised firepot cleric, maybe a paladin. Other than that there's not really much I'd be interested in.

As far as I'm concerned rotating legacy items would be ideal.
I get that there are purists who don't want any changes, but the project has been going on for like a decade and a half at this point. I want to see SOMETHING new instead of a carbon copy of the exact same OG timeline.

Pass, then you end up with shitfiestas like WoW Season of Discovery. That said, I wouldn't mind tweaks to non-classic systems like /list.

[Soothsayer]

Pass, then you end up with shitfiestas like WoW Season of Discovery. That said, I wouldn't mind tweaks to non-classic systems like /list.

Wasn't SoD a success that was generally received pretty well by the classic WoW community, though? I played it myself for a couple of months and had fun, even if some aspects of it were sort of disappointing (namely Battle for Ashenvale). Not that Project 1999 should go that route and start adding things that fundamentally change class roles...

Anyway. I really don't think that giving rogues an aggro dump before the Paineel era, or giving shield bash stun an aggro component so that warriors can function / hold aggro the way they were originally intended to, is going to break the game.

[sajbert]

Wasn't SoD a success that was generally received pretty well by the classic WoW community, though? I played it myself for a couple of months and had fun, even if some aspects of it were sort of disappointing (namely Battle for Ashenvale). Not that Project 1999 should go that route and start adding things that fundamentally change class roles...

Anyway. I really don't think that giving rogues an aggro dump before the Paineel era, or giving shield bash stun an aggro component so that warriors can function / hold aggro the way they were originally intended to, is going to break the game.

SoD was initially popular because the WoW community is in total denial and just wanted something, anything, fresh. Added on top of the classic players were an influx of retail players no doubt.

After that there's been a 70% dropoff of players (https://www.mmojugg.com/news/wow-sod-global-player-loss-exceeds-70.html) and perhaps that's in part to be expected, however, that's not the point. The point is that SoD sucks and that adding new abilities and tweaking old easily results in a shit experience.

The classic community got it right the first time, "no changes". There's a value in playing the game as it were and it gives the game a legitimacy that you otherwise lose. Not all too dissimilar to house-rules in other games. Before long also devs would have to defend not changing virtually everything. Given what we've seen from the p99-devs I doubt the interest is there and it may very well be why we haven't seen a fresh server now.

[magnetaress]

Clear majority and green still hasn't reset


G-d bless u all 🙏

[Rimitto]

Clear majority and green still hasn't reset


G-d bless u all 🙏

the server will reset when God gets his epic.

[fun1999]

maybe I won't play anymore than. I just started 3 months ago and if its going to get reset im not going to bother.

[gabbydee]

total noob question, but what does reset mean?

[cd288]

It will eventually merge into Blue. It doesn't "reset" in the sense that you lose your characters. People should stop using that word.

It's a merge into blue, everything will still exist. And then a server starting from the beginning of the classic timeline will be started again.

[Soothsayer]

It will eventually merge into Blue. It doesn't "reset" in the sense that you lose your characters. People should stop using that word.

It's a merge into blue, everything will still exist. And then a server starting from the beginning of the classic timeline will be started again.

After years of radio silence, I'm starting to doubt that lol

[Wudan]

P99 team has done a great job restoring the original EQ.
They have done a piss poor job maintaining the servers and the community.
It is the biggest reason for population decline.
Basically they built this great thing and then left it to rot.

[caveslug]

After years of radio silence, I'm starting to doubt that lol

They keep believing, much like Christians still waiting 2000 years later.
Far to many take what was said as gospel.

Either someone has lost all desire or time to deal with a reset.
Or will pop it out without warning, so all the neckbeards wont able to put in vacation time before it happens.

[caveslug]

P99 team has done a great job restoring the original EQ.
They have done a piss poor job maintaining the servers and the community.
It is the biggest reason for population decline.
Basically they built this great thing and then left it to rot.

We had a big number drop with Quarm.
If a Green reset happened, you would see all the other servers dip in players too.

It's the nature of content like this, and the player base.

[cd288]

After years of radio silence, I'm starting to doubt that lol

People said the same thing about ever seeing Velious. About ever actually seeing a from scratch progression server like Green. I think it will eventually happen, but could be years from now whenever the server owners feel like doing it

[Hailto]

When was the last time the devs actually spoke of a sever merge? If it's actually been years I'm just going to afk again and save myself the annoyance of waiting around cause it's probably never happening.

[Trexller]

when was the last time the devs spoke about anything? let alone a merger

maybe we should call in a welfare check. servers could just be sitting there with the utility bills on auto-pay

[Insomnia]

Im hoping we see something sometime late summer. Aint happening anytime before end of July, to allow the new TLPs to get their traction. As im sure theyre still under an agreement to not release anything that would directly compete with EQLive

[Rimitto]

They keep believing, much like Christians still waiting 2000 years later.
Far to many take what was said as gospel.

Either someone has lost all desire or time to deal with a reset.
Or will pop it out without warning, so all the neckbeards wont able to put in vacation time before it happens.

neckbeards not being overlord wannabe gods sounds pretty good to me :rolleyes:
maybe there's something to this 2000 years thing afterall.

[Hawxley222]

Been a long while since i posted on these forums.

But this is the only thing i'm interested in. The second they start a new server, Me and my crew are all in. Would love to hear anything at all from the people running the game. Because if there was no intention of ever starting a new server, that's good info to know. Friends would love to play, but they want to play from the start and don't want to roll characters only to start over in the next few months to half a year. but there's no info on anything. just assumptions from a wide range of people here.. Any info would be appreciated.

[coobie]

Just make a fresh server. Maybe "Yellow" or something. No one's characters are deleted atleast. I've been looking forward to a fresh server for years.

[Jimjam]

2029 gonna be a Goodyear^(TM).

[cd288]

Been a long while since i posted on these forums.

But this is the only thing i'm interested in. The second they start a new server, Me and my crew are all in. Would love to hear anything at all from the people running the game. Because if there was no intention of ever starting a new server, that's good info to know. Friends would love to play, but they want to play from the start and don't want to roll characters only to start over in the next few months to half a year. but there's no info on anything. just assumptions from a wide range of people here.. Any info would be appreciated.

We don't have any info on timing. We do have statements from Nilbog about certain recent changes (such as some mobs not existing past a certain time) being applicable to "future iterations of the server".

They have also been making patch changes that would've been made at earlier points in the timeline.

All of this would indicate that there will be a new server eventually. We just don't know when. If I had to bet, I would say close to end of this year if we're lucky.

[Goregasmic]

We don't have any info on timing. We do have statements from Nilbog about certain recent changes (such as some mobs not existing past a certain time) being applicable to "future iterations of the server".

They have also been making patch changes that would've been made at earlier points in the timeline.

All of this would indicate that there will be a new server eventually. We just don't know when. If I had to bet, I would say close to end of this year if we're lucky.

This means they haven't ruled out the possibility of a new server but it doesn't mean they have a timeline for a new one.

[Swish]

The hype for new green hasn't quite met the "how long til Velious?" fervor we had for years honestly.

[shovelquest]

thread from 2023 makes me want to smash my nuts!

[Salaryman]

RED99

The GMs said no resets, called the server a museum, dont care if noone plays because they just wanted to recreate classic, you morons with no reading comprehension cant read and expect reset.

You should all be ashamed of yourselves but I doubt you have the mental capacity to even have emotions or thoughts so stay mad bad and sad.

RED99

[cd288]

This means they haven't ruled out the possibility of a new server but it doesn't mean they have a timeline for a new one.

No kidding, that's literally what I said in my post haha.

They're working towards doing one eventually but they don't know when for sure yet, which is why they haven't released a date. I would think it's probably late this year early next year.

[WarpathEQ]

RED99

The GMs said no resets, called the server a museum, dont care if noone plays because they just wanted to recreate classic, you morons with no reading comprehension cant read and expect reset.

You should all be ashamed of yourselves but I doubt you have the mental capacity to even have emotions or thoughts so stay mad bad and sad.

RED99

Imagine being on a server with a lower population than a practice server that you can't even play the actual game on. ROFLCOPTER

There will be no resets. New server will drop once Dev's have executed on their known issues, biggest one being unclassic resists, specifically on paci

[Salaryman]

Imagine being on a server with a lower population than a practice server that you can't even play the actual game on. ROFLCOPTER

There will be no resets. New server will drop once Dev's have executed on their known issues, biggest one being unclassic resists, specifically on paci

RED99

You are the one who wants a new server, well if RED99 is supposedly so empty, thats a new server for you to play on, why dont you?

Because you are afraid of PVP

RED99

[loramin]

The hype for new green hasn't quite met the "how long til Velious?" fervor we had for years honestly.

Yup: I think anyone who's been around awhile has waited for Velious, waited for Green, waited for their favorite bug fix, etc.

We know the drill, and we're a lot more patient this time around ... so the fervor is only coming from the (smaller/newer) percentage.

[shovelquest]

Yup: I think anyone who's been around awhile has waited for Velious, waited for Green, waited for their favorite bug fix, etc.

We know the drill, and we're a lot more patient this time around ... so the fervor is only coming from the (smaller/newer) percentage.

You know how like in a domestic violence situation, and the victim doesn't leave their partner?

That's a thing too you know. :p

[zelld52]

RED99

You are the one who wants a new server, well if RED99 is supposedly so empty, thats a new server for you to play on, why dont you?

Because you are afraid of PVP

RED99

There’s no Ps to vP on red

[Algustus]

Count me among the lurkers that checks daily for news on Green 2.0 and Red 2.0.

Same here. I keep checking for new progression server. Not logging in to Green or any other server until I can build up to bind at the fire pots in the week or so that's available.

[WarpathEQ]

There’s no Ps to vP on red

Oh you thought P99 red was people that actually play the game? Lol P99 red is played exclusively on the forums

[Algustus]

Honestly they could start green 2.0 and leave 1.0 running concurrently and then merge it once people realise it's a ghost town


That's how it should be done. The lords of loot don't want their monopolies on cool loot challenged by mergers. They will oppose it until the active player count drops.

[Goregasmic]

No kidding, that's literally what I said in my post haha.

They're working towards doing one eventually but they don't know when for sure yet, which is why they haven't released a date. I would think it's probably late this year early next year.

Yeah I was unclear, what I meant is it is possible they have no concrete plans for a new server. Many people seem to think it is coming this year but unless i missed something I don't think they hinted at anything being in the works?

[WarpathEQ]

Yeah I was unclear, what I meant is it is possible they have no concrete plans for a new server. Many people seem to think it is coming this year but unless i missed something I don't think they hinted at anything being in the works?

I think the biggest hint, reading between the lines, is the renewed focus on patch frequency and specifically implementing patch content that has 0 impact on any of the servers in their current end state and would only have an impact on P99 if a new server is started.

I wrote this off on the first patch since it had been 3 years between patches as maybe they just did the fix a long time ago and its finally getting implemented 3 years later, but we see continued examples of it in following patches and activity in the bug fix forum.

The main thing we've seen the devs communicate that they know is still not truly classic are resists specifically on spell lines, the devs have outlines the current settings are a temporary bandaid for a larger overhaul of that area. I believe this is a remaining frontier they want to tackle before a new server is considered.

[Jimjam]

There’s no Ps to vP on red

I don’t know how but lightninghoof actually does manage to find pvp on red.

[Duik]

There’s no Ps to vP on red

I'd buy that on a t-shirt.

[Goregasmic]

I think the biggest hint, reading between the lines, is the renewed focus on patch frequency and specifically implementing patch content that has 0 impact on any of the servers in their current end state and would only have an impact on P99 if a new server is started.

I wrote this off on the first patch since it had been 3 years between patches as maybe they just did the fix a long time ago and its finally getting implemented 3 years later, but we see continued examples of it in following patches and activity in the bug fix forum.

The main thing we've seen the devs communicate that they know is still not truly classic are resists specifically on spell lines, the devs have outlines the current settings are a temporary bandaid for a larger overhaul of that area. I believe this is a remaining frontier they want to tackle before a new server is considered.

Yeah it is a good sign but for the spell resists I think the main problem is lack of data from what I understand. I

I feel a main hurdle is starting a new server when CSR is ears deep in petitions already. Not sure if they figured out a mostly hassle free merge of green/blue either.

The fact they're coming up with cool GM events in 2024-2025 is encouraging though.