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WokeCat
12-10-2022, 10:50 PM
My dude is getting close to level 50 and I've been getting random messages from people I don't even know asking if I want to join they guild. And I'm like, scared I'll end up joining a guild that sucks, or a guild that has a terrible reputation and then everyone ends up hating me.

I seriously don't know the drama surrounding the guilds on Blue.

I used to know all the drama with guilds on Green before Kunark launched. I remember joining Venerate and it being one of the worst online gaming experiences I've ever had in my entire life. I was randomly thinking about it this morning, how this dude was cursing me out 2 hours after I joined because they demanded I come to a raid that I wasn't even aware of because ... I just joined the guild. I didn't even want to go because I just got the camp in Guk where the dude drops the SMR, and I really didn't want to abandon it to go on a PoF raid (let's keep it real, no Cleric armor drops in PoF really).

So I get there, and this dude demands I give him a symbol and I just explain to him that I don't have any peridots, and he calls me a liar and then starts raging at me about how I've known about this raid for months now and how I should have been prepared and then he calls me a liar etc.

Like I've never had someone talk to me like that in my entir elife, not at a job, not in a video game etc.

It reminded me of how a slave owner would speak to a slave back in the 1800s or something, it was surreal, it's like wait, who the fuck are you talking to? That would get your teeth slapped out of your skull if you talked to anyone that way IRL, and here you are, raging at some dude you don't even know on a 20+ year old non-competitive video game after your guild spent 2 weeks begging him to join.

Good lord that shit still has me triggered. Even the most competitive WoW guilds in the world don't talk to people like that.

tl;dr What guilds are good on the blue server?

Encroaching Death
12-10-2022, 11:25 PM
Vanquish has a great reputation

mattydef
12-11-2022, 03:24 AM
Vanquish and Riot are the two top raiding guilds if your goal is to experience the highest of content and be a part of the competitive raid scene. Kittens would be next down the line if you want something a little more casual but still want to experience some of the high end raid scene (mostly on quakes). After that would be TSS and then any of the guilds that are part of the Sanctum alliance.

wagorf
12-11-2022, 07:18 AM
you cannot expect everyone to be super nice and friendly, especially with the top 2 raiding guilds when the main focus is to win targets. this means they expect you to do the right thing and fuck things up for others

if you dont have thick skins, a casual raiding or casual/family guilds may fit you better

wagorf
12-11-2022, 07:19 AM
*not fuck things up*

Chortles Snortles
12-11-2022, 09:46 AM
>good
>blue server

pick one

Frankenbeanz
12-11-2022, 10:43 AM
https://i.imgur.com/7PBVJvm.jpg

unsunghero
12-11-2022, 12:48 PM
>good
>blue server

pick one

loramin
12-11-2022, 01:22 PM
https://wiki.project1999.com/Blue_Guilds might be a little out of date (when guilds die they often don't bother removing themselves), but it's a good overview of what's out there.

San'Drax
12-11-2022, 01:42 PM
If knocking teeth out is a common solution to problems, I know a place for you

Ghost of Starman
12-11-2022, 03:42 PM
the top 2 guilds (Vanq and Riot) are incredibly cutthroat, tons of bad blood and well documented shady activity on both sides.

If you want a good guild that tries to follow both the rules and the "spirit" of play nice, you'd want to join Kittens.

WokeCat
12-12-2022, 08:16 AM
Vanquish has a great reputation

do they really? I saw a video of them on Youtube getting trained a week ago?? Because of being in Vanquish? I can never tell when people on here are being sarcastic tho, so maybe you are being fr lol

Bagavan
12-12-2022, 09:25 AM
Really only one option guild wise if you want to compete for your pixels and that guild is Vanquish. Kittens and Riot will offer you other competitive options as well but are more casual in that they'd rather turn the raid scene into a full rotation/draft. So really the question is, would you rather earn your pixels or get them free?

Jimjam
12-12-2022, 10:16 AM
do they really? I saw a video of them on Youtube getting trained a week ago?? Because of being in Vanquish? I can never tell when people on here are being sarcastic tho, so maybe you are being fr lol

A trio of Axioms refused to group with my wizard, claiming it was due to a bard of the same (Vanquish) guild tag which had be causing zone disruption attempting to kite spiders in Velks.

I did a lot of AoEing spiders in Velks on green without ever really running in to problems with other users of the zone, so I was disappointed to read reports of AOEing Velks being troublesome on blue. I didn't press any further to try work out if the claims were substantive, or who the accused was. My apologies to any Vanq bigwigs reading who may have wanted such info.

This is the only time I've been refused a group on account of a guild tag btw.

magnetaress
12-12-2022, 10:22 AM
<Sanctuary>

On red

Allishia
12-12-2022, 11:26 AM
Like anything really just avoid the politics. Vanquish is a lot of fun and there are plenty of friendly people willing to help you learn how to raid and be prepared for engages. Riot too, plenty of good people who would help you.

Avoid the ones who hold grudges over dumb video game drama /nod, and don't take advice from the usual rnf trolls :p

Ooloo
12-13-2022, 04:04 PM
Why are you playing on the server with daily, consistently lower population op?

WokeCat
12-13-2022, 04:12 PM
Why are you playing on the server with daily, consistently lower population op?

Was one of the first high level characters on green. Sold multiple FBSS for 20K back in the day. But see I didn’t know about P99 at all. For about 20 years I would lay in bed at night day dreaming about EQ before I fell asleep.

Discovered P99 around the time green launched. The last 6 months I played there the server felt completely dead. Kunark was over a year away if I recall. I found myself still longing to relive my childhood memories.

A lot of that was longing to experience zones in Kunark and even Velious. Got tired of waiting, so I started on Blue, and had some fun. Mischief TLP came out. Played it for about a year.

Come back to P99 and hear a new server is coming out soon and ultimately concluded that I would have a better experience playing on blue instead of green this close to the merge, and the likely possibility that nothing I do on any server will matter in the immediate future since I will almost certainly be playing on the new server once it launches.

Ooloo
12-13-2022, 04:13 PM
I see. Good answer actually.

Grumph
12-13-2022, 11:06 PM
https://i.imgur.com/7PBVJvm.jpg

WOW LOL

Grumph
12-13-2022, 11:27 PM
My dude is getting close to level 50 and I've been getting random messages from people I don't even know asking if I want to join they guild. And I'm like, scared I'll end up joining a guild that sucks, or a guild that has a terrible reputation and then everyone ends up hating me.

I seriously don't know the drama surrounding the guilds on Blue.

I used to know all the drama with guilds on Green before Kunark launched. I remember joining Venerate and it being one of the worst online gaming experiences I've ever had in my entire life. I was randomly thinking about it this morning, how this dude was cursing me out 2 hours after I joined because they demanded I come to a raid that I wasn't even aware of because ... I just joined the guild. I didn't even want to go because I just got the camp in Guk where the dude drops the SMR, and I really didn't want to abandon it to go on a PoF raid (let's keep it real, no Cleric armor drops in PoF really).

So I get there, and this dude demands I give him a symbol and I just explain to him that I don't have any peridots, and he calls me a liar and then starts raging at me about how I've known about this raid for months now and how I should have been prepared and then he calls me a liar etc.

Like I've never had someone talk to me like that in my entir elife, not at a job, not in a video game etc.

It reminded me of how a slave owner would speak to a slave back in the 1800s or something, it was surreal, it's like wait, who the fuck are you talking to? That would get your teeth slapped out of your skull if you talked to anyone that way IRL, and here you are, raging at some dude you don't even know on a 20+ year old non-competitive video game after your guild spent 2 weeks begging him to join.

Good lord that shit still has me triggered. Even the most competitive WoW guilds in the world don't talk to people like that.

tl;dr What guilds are good on the blue server?



1) "Close to 50" is not close to ready to join a raiding guild. You need about 4-5 level 60's. Hope this helps.

2) Since you mentioned slave owners in the 1800's I think the first in game tell you send should be to an officer of <Kittens Who Say Meow> named Ngar. N-G-A-R. Four letters.

If you don't see this character on in game its easy to lookup on discord as well. Ngar is a UN speaker for Kittens.

3) And I'm sure Kittens will be happy to recruit you even at level 50. (Especially if its a druid. And needs an epic.) Because they're a mostly casual but sometimes pretend to raid guild.

So this could be the perfect place for you to go to where you could literally do anything you want from there.

1) You could lvl to 60 a couple times with kittens and then reevaluate where else you'd like to bounce to based off of the super accurate gossip Kittens constantly share amoungst themselves about all the actual raid guilds.

or

2) I'm sure you could just stop leveling and just show up as a level 50 to whatever coordinated events they 'offer.' Just be consistent with reminders about needing an epic. And have fun!

Swish
12-14-2022, 12:21 AM
1) "Close to 50" is not close to ready to join a raiding guild. You need about 4-5 level 60's. Hope this helps.

I disagree.

cd288
12-14-2022, 12:32 AM
you cannot expect everyone to be super nice and friendly, especially with the top 2 raiding guilds when the main focus is to win targets. this means they expect you to do the right thing and fuck things up for others

if you dont have thick skins, a casual raiding or casual/family guilds may fit you better

Pretty reasonable to expect someone not to curse someone out because they aren’t present for a raid they weren’t even aware was happening, force them to come, and then curse them out again for not being fully prepared for said raid

cd288
12-14-2022, 12:33 AM
1) "Close to 50" is not close to ready to join a raiding guild. You need about 4-5 level 60's. Hope this helps.

2) Since you mentioned slave owners in the 1800's I think the first in game tell you send should be to an officer of <Kittens Who Say Meow> named Ngar. N-G-A-R. Four letters.

If you don't see this character on in game its easy to lookup on discord as well. Ngar is a UN speaker for Kittens.

3) And I'm sure Kittens will be happy to recruit you even at level 50. (Especially if its a druid. And needs an epic.) Because they're a mostly casual but sometimes pretend to raid guild.

So this could be the perfect place for you to go to where you could literally do anything you want from there.

1) You could lvl to 60 a couple times with kittens and then reevaluate where else you'd like to bounce to based off of the super accurate gossip Kittens constantly share amoungst themselves about all the actual raid guilds.

or

2) I'm sure you could just stop leveling and just show up as a level 50 to whatever coordinated events they 'offer.' Just be consistent with reminders about needing an epic. And have fun!

Wtf is wrong with you man

Arvan
12-14-2022, 12:45 AM
Grumph perfectly illustrating which crowd not to be anywhere near nice self reporting there

magnetaress
12-14-2022, 01:07 AM
you should make your own really way cooler guild than any of the ones right now they are all kinda gross

Jimjam
12-14-2022, 04:13 AM
Pretty reasonable to expect someone not to curse someone out because they aren’t present for a raid they weren’t even aware was happening, force them to come, and then curse them out again for not being fully prepared for said raid

Far too much cursing in raid guild voice channels. Fucking shitheads.

WokeCat
12-14-2022, 04:47 AM
1) "Close to 50" is not close to ready to join a raiding guild. You need about 4-5 level 60's. Hope this helps.

2) Since you mentioned slave owners in the 1800's I think the first in game tell you send should be to an officer of <Kittens Who Say Meow> named Ngar. N-G-A-R. Four letters.

If you don't see this character on in game its easy to lookup on discord as well. Ngar is a UN speaker for Kittens.

3) And I'm sure Kittens will be happy to recruit you even at level 50. (Especially if its a druid. And needs an epic.) Because they're a mostly casual but sometimes pretend to raid guild.

So this could be the perfect place for you to go to where you could literally do anything you want from there.

1) You could lvl to 60 a couple times with kittens and then reevaluate where else you'd like to bounce to based off of the super accurate gossip Kittens constantly share amoungst themselves about all the actual raid guilds.

or

2) I'm sure you could just stop leveling and just show up as a level 50 to whatever coordinated events they 'offer.' Just be consistent with reminders about needing an epic. And have fun!I actually have a 50+ Necro and Cleric. Necro was boring and felt like playing game on easy mode. Rerolled a gnome cleric. Solo’d til level 50 and realized that a lack of Undead mobs in Kunark and beyond was going to severely limit my ability to play the game so I rerolled again with this shaman.

I never really said I wanted to join a raid guild, but I’ve had several strangers approach me asking if I wanted to join their guild. (This never happened on my Cleric, I kept /anon on at all times because people would ask me to stop what I was doing and run 4 zones away and wade through a dungeon to 50% Rez them, no joke).

And part of me is like, man, maybe I should join a guild. It gets lonely playing this game for days at a time without a single conversation, but then I’m also hesitant / cautious about joining a guild and not enjoying it or finding out a significant portion of the server will blacklist me for my affiliation.

It’s a real concern because I don’t know any of the guild lore on blue. On Green I could write an essay about why I like and dislike certain guilds.

Jimjam
12-14-2022, 05:09 AM
Black listed?

You’re hidden away soloing undead, /anon, unguilded and refusing to assist corpse runs - sounds like you’ve already ostracised yourself?

Andyman1022
12-14-2022, 10:37 AM
1) "Close to 50" is not close to ready to join a raiding guild. You need about 4-5 level 60's. Hope this helps.

2) Since you mentioned slave owners in the 1800's I think the first in game tell you send should be to an officer of <Kittens Who Say Meow> named Ngar. N-G-A-R. Four letters.

If you don't see this character on in game its easy to lookup on discord as well. Ngar is a UN speaker for Kittens.

3) And I'm sure Kittens will be happy to recruit you even at level 50. (Especially if its a druid. And needs an epic.) Because they're a mostly casual but sometimes pretend to raid guild.

So this could be the perfect place for you to go to where you could literally do anything you want from there.

1) You could lvl to 60 a couple times with kittens and then reevaluate where else you'd like to bounce to based off of the super accurate gossip Kittens constantly share amoungst themselves about all the actual raid guilds.

or

2) I'm sure you could just stop leveling and just show up as a level 50 to whatever coordinated events they 'offer.' Just be consistent with reminders about needing an epic. And have fun!

Jimmies confirmed rustled

WokeCat
12-14-2022, 12:50 PM
Black listed?

You’re hidden away soloing undead, /anon, unguilded and refusing to assist corpse runs - sounds like you’ve already ostracised yourself?

That's not accurate really. I leveled the Cleric in like 2020? Early 2021? I think? Because I remember the Capitol Riot things happening and arguing with someone in the EC Tunnel around that same time period. I found it kind of insane that I never got group invites as a Cleric, but at the same time, I didn't really hate it. I read about Clerics who had solo'd to high level, and kind of saw it as a challenge.

I remember doing the scarecrows in West Karana to 20. Once I hit 20, I went to Unrest and solo'd a lot of the stuff on the 1st and 2nd floor. Occasionally I would get groups while doing this.

Once I got high enough level, I think it was 25? When the lowest level halfling Guard stopped resisting my spells and this was back when Halfling Guards respawned every 6 minutes or so. I basically AFK farmed them until I could no longer stand it. I think I left at level 35? But I had made enough plat from selling their spears that I was able to buy some wisdom gear, and then went to Unrest and solo'd Hag Tower to 40 in like a single day. That experience was insane.

Then I began the mind numbing AFK farming of spectres in Feerrott. While doing this, I would frequently have people messaging me asking me to go down to Lower Guk and resurrect them, and I'm not the type of person who says no easily. I will help any player who is in distress. So I did end up going ANON to avoid that after a bit. I also think I got burned once because someone asked me to run to City of Mist for a group, and then logged off after I finally got out there. I think the same thing happened with Splitpaw in my mid 30s, but the memories are hazy.

This is why I picked Shaman as my class. Being a Necro is lonely, but Shamans can solo or heal, so I like having the option to do both. Like my Shaman was able to go South Karana and solo Treants, Gnolls, Aviaks etc. while occasionally finding Splitpaw groups in between. If I had been a Cleric, I wouldn't have been able to do much other than sit LFG for days, possibly weeks etc. so I just think Shaman is a better class who someone who wants to play with other people, but is also aware of the fact that they will often times have to play this game solo.

I also don't know how easy it would be to level a Cleric solo to 50 now that they nerfed Halfling guards. I mean if you are a total twink, it might not be a big deal, but I actually really needed the plat from those guards to get enough Wisdom to not go OOM trying to kill a single mob, lol. My Cleric is a Gnome so his wisdom is fairly low.

WokeCat
12-14-2022, 01:03 PM
I also do plan on becoming a Gnome Cleric main again, once my Shaman gets level 60, and has Torpor, I'm hoping that I can twink the Gnome up really well to where solo'ing feels more like a novelty rather than a burden or curse. I just love the way Gnomes look, and the concept of a Plate-wearing caster class. Very rare dynamic IMHO.

loramin
12-14-2022, 01:17 PM
You definitely don't need halfling guards to solo as a cleric. At the earlier levels you can do Lake Rathe (undead gnolls) at night, and Rather Mountains (dry bone skeletons at the tower), and at 27 you can switch to Tower of Frozen Shadow in Velious.

That being said, it's unfortunate that you felt the need to solo as a cleric; when I did it, it was deliberately for the challenge of soloing a hard to solo class. If any class should be able to group to 60, it's cleric.

Chortles Snortles
12-14-2022, 01:19 PM
you forgot to link the wiki
(lol)

loramin
12-14-2022, 01:33 PM
you forgot to link the wiki
(lol)

Except ... it's in my signature :p

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xSibw85qLmM/maxresdefault.jpg

WokeCat
12-14-2022, 01:54 PM
You definitely don't need halfling guards to solo as a cleric. At the earlier levels you can do Lake Rathe (undead gnolls) at night, and Rather Mountains (dry bone skeletons at the tower), and at 27 you can switch to Tower of Frozen Shadow in Velious.

That being said, it's unfortunate that you felt the need to solo as a cleric; when I did it, it was deliberately for the challenge of soloing a hard to solo class. If any class should be able to group to 60, it's cleric.

The way I leveled the Cleric felt more like a huge time sink rather than a challenge. I remember mostly watching YouTube while medding up to get enough mana to nuke down a scarecrow in West Karana, and the Halfling Guards were very similar since I was only doing one at a time. Some of the Unrest stuff was kind of hard though, especially Hag Tower.

I had several stopwatches going at once because of that random dude who spawns in the hallway, if you weren't cognizant of him it could really mess you up, and then I had to make sure all the hags and PHs in the tower itself were split by several minutes apart so I would have enough mana to deal with them.

I learned pretty quickly that I could use Divine Aura to eat the Harm Touch when the Undead Knight spawned.

It's good to know that there is other places for Clerics, but I still felt like the Halfling Guards really elevated my character because I went from having no wisdom items to having 200 wisdom by the time I finished them. I feel like if I had done some of the other camps that I probably would have only made enough $$$ to buy my spells, lol.

I imagine a twinked Cleric could solo really well though, might even be fun. I know once my Cleric hit level 44 he could kill the Spectres in Feerrott really fast and efficiently.

WokeCat
12-14-2022, 02:01 PM
Edit: I know I said I initially viewed it as a challenge, and I did, but once I got 40+ I realized that most people could actually solo a Cleric to high level relatively easy if they don't mind the fact that it may take them a much longer time than playing other classes.

I feel like leveling a Wizard may actually be harder because they probably don't have a massive advantage over Clerics due to having no pet or mana regen, and they don't have self heals or plate armor / buffs? Or obviously leveling a Rogue or Warrior etc. I feel like even a Twinked Rogue would have a hard time out-solo'ing an untwinked Cleric, lol.

Snaggles
12-14-2022, 02:03 PM
I leveled to 60 solo. Didn't care (or know) about guild reputations until I started raiding. I'm only semi-jaded now.

IMHO, I'd spend a bit more time out in the woods. You get out of the game what you put in.

WokeCat
12-14-2022, 02:08 PM
I leveled to 60 solo. Didn't care (or know) about guild reputations until I started raiding. I'm only semi-jaded now.

IMHO, I'd spend a bit more time out in the woods. You get out of the game what you put in.

I'm a little angry at the world ATM because I rode the boat and ran all the way to CoM last night and eventually gated back to the old world to continue solo'ing guards after 2 days of not being able to find a group (by 2 days I mean a couple of hours of LFG last night before bed, and early this morning).

WokeCat
12-14-2022, 02:10 PM
Also I forgot that Lull is a really powerful tool that Clerics have. Before Kunark came out on green, my Cleric could easily clear the Ghoul Supplier room by using IVU and Lull to split the room. I remember thinking my Shaman would have a much easier time doing the same camp once he hit level 50, and then I proceeded to wipe trying to break the camp because he didn't have Lull and got Ghoul rooted and beat to death LOL.

Jimjam
12-14-2022, 03:58 PM
You definitely don't need halfling guards to solo as a cleric.

I remember doing unrest then oasis spectres. I found groups would happily take a 39-44 in kc basement (I didn’t reveal my level and no one ever died). The xp was fast. Then I hit Seb , but that seems a dead zone these days.

loramin
12-14-2022, 05:07 PM
I'm a little angry at the world ATM because I rode the boat and ran all the way to CoM last night and eventually gated back to the old world to continue solo'ing guards after 2 days of not being able to find a group (by 2 days I mean a couple of hours of LFG last night before bed, and early this morning).

First of all, learn /who dial all. At most times you can find a porter willing to take you between continents much more quickly. You'll have to donate a few plat, but porters expect less from lower-level characters, and whatever you pay will be worth it to save the boat time.

Second, https://wiki.project1999.com/Group_Hunting_Spots can sort of give you an idea of where to find groups, but it's not perfect (as a side note, everyone reading should feel welcome to edit that page and make it more accurate!)

Third ... why not solo CoM while waiting for a group? Alternatively, you could also run over to TT and kill the ghosts in the ruins (I think if you're CoM level they should be blue to you). https://wiki.project1999.com/Per-Level_Hunting_Guide for more details.

Either way you can check for groups or duo/trio partners, even if you are in TT, with /who all cityofmist.

Chortles Snortles
12-14-2022, 10:01 PM
don't forget to upboat, like and subscribe today
(lol)