As a Bard player, I have to say:

[Gloomlord]

75% of Bard players should stop playing Bard.

Nothing is more exasperating than seeing a Bard play only one song, whilst doing utterly subpar melee damage. I complain every single time I see it, and I'm fed up with everyone staying silent about it in groups.

[Ripqozko]

Sorry you got mana song, hope that helps.

[Smoofers]

doing utterly subpar melee damage

Stopped reading right there. If you're doing melee as a bard you're a complete shitter.

Hope this helps.

[Jibartik]

Play the manasong OP and shutup.

YiJnNRt9dUs

[unsunghero]

Nobody tells DJ Request what to play

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fWvwOcBVpSA

[Bardp1999]

I love being in groups with overactive players who feel the need to critique the damage output at LCY in KC. It's usually the same guys that need "afk for bong rip" and are playing an Iksar Monk

[magnetaress]

I don't like bards at all doesn't matter how good they are.

[Encroaching Death]

and are playing an Iksar Monk

Iksar Monks are the BMWs of the P99 world

....it's always a dude playing an Iksar Monk

[cd288]

I love being in groups with overactive players who feel the need to critique the damage output at LCY in KC. It's usually the same guys that need "afk for bong rip" and are playing an Iksar Monk

Yup. "How could you not do enough damage for us to kill the mob in 8 seconds instead of 10! How dare you!!!!!"

[unsunghero]

I don't like bards at all doesn't matter how good they are.

I have no idea what bards are capable of. I have only grouped like 3 times total, but happened to group up with a <castle> bard the other day and was pretty impressed

He was charming adds with me (my huge cha buff apparently helps their charms), and rather than me peeing my mana finishing charm pets, I’d just root it and he’d stack 3 dots on it. Them dots are pretty nasty

And of course that mana song is juicy. It’s a shame that songs don’t affect pets on p99, I coulda swore they did on live EQ

[Encroaching Death]

I have no idea what bards are capable of. I have only grouped like 3 times total, but happened to group up with a <castle> bard the other day and was pretty impressed

He was charming adds with me (my huge cha buff apparently helps their charms), and rather than me peeing my mana finishing charm pets, I’d just root it and he’d stack 3 dots on it. Them dots are pretty nasty

And of course that mana song is juicy. It’s a shame that songs don’t affect pets on p99, I coulda swore they did on live EQ

When you have a good Bard, Necro, or Ranger in group - they can impress.

It's just hard to find players who can excel with them in groups.

[Gloomlord]

Stopped reading right there. If you're doing melee as a bard you're a complete shitter.

Hope this helps.

Unsure if this is a joke, but I'm one of the bards who don't melee.

I keybind every song slot and swap instruments.

It's funny how people joke about how I should play mana song and shut up, but a lot of bards don't even do that. They basically just play a subpar rogue.

[Ripqozko]

Unsure if this is a joke, but I'm one of the bards who don't melee.

I keybind every song slot and swap instruments.

It's funny how people joke about how I should play mana song and shut up, but a lot of bards don't even do that. They basically just play a subpar rogue.

play manasong and shuttup. hope that helps.

[Encroaching Death]

Unsure if this is a joke, but I'm one of the bards who don't melee.

I keybind every song slot and swap instruments.

It's funny how people joke about how I should play mana song and shut up, but a lot of bards don't even do that. They basically just play a subpar rogue.

I always found it amusing how some games gave Bard classes a weapon like, "Do you want me to play music or no? I need both hands..."

Hell, caster classes don't melee - why should Bards? Jam on my brother. Play that funky music, elf boy

[red_demonman]

What if I have a magical sword that sings, can I whack the mob now?

[Encroaching Death]

What if I have a magical sword that sings, can I whack the mob now?

https://media.tenor.com/pX6XN_vsAtkAAAAM/tracy-morgan-no-way.gif

[Swish]

Bard dps

https://i.imgur.com/Lnd9pVk.gif

[branamil]

There's no point. Doing one song gets you 90% of the way there. No point in giving yourself carpal tunnel for that extra 10% just so some obese 45 year old man in pennsylvania can get a female druid to level 58 slightly faster.

[Zuranthium]

If you're doing melee as a bard you're a complete shitter.

Bards with Epic should definitely be doing melee enough to sustain the Epic proc, in melee centric groups.

[Jimjam]

My bard wields a combine long sword. :)

[magnetaress]

I have no idea what bards are capable of. I have only grouped like 3 times total, but happened to group up with a <castle> bard the other day and was pretty impressed

He was charming adds with me (my huge cha buff apparently helps their charms), and rather than me peeing my mana finishing charm pets, I’d just root it and he’d stack 3 dots on it. Them dots are pretty nasty

And of course that mana song is juicy. It’s a shame that songs don’t affect pets on p99, I coulda swore they did on live EQ
It honestly doesn't matter what they are capable of.

[Andyman1022]

OP is a bard but groups with other bards... huh?

[hobart]

If it's me in your KC group you're getting 2 songs consistently with the appropriate instrument. I'll keep my epic buff up. You'll also get snare, charm, mez CC as needed.

If the group needs more than that, I am not in the group. If you want more than that, go fuck yourself.

[Nibbles]

I generally play mana song and just mez/charm adds. Basically I am playing a plate wearing chanter.

[arsenalpow]

I also play Bard. Should finish this season in gold one tricking him.

[Naethyn]

Wait till you hear the math behind why a bard is better in the tank group, instead of a full group of clerics on raids.

[Kohedron]

OP just outed himself

[unsunghero]

Thus far my only experience with bards has been to say:

“Ho-ly shit look at that giant blob of mobs. Is that every mob in this zone? Please don’t run that over me”

And thus far luckily none have

[l0053g0053]

I love playing my bard but its really a pain in the ass to juggle instruments and constantly twisting songs, using /stopsong to grab that extra tick.

I am over here running myself ragged on the keyboard when someone else is just /afk, /pet attack /cast1 /afk

When I feel it, its really powerful and fun, but when I am not feeling it, I would rather just solo.

With a well rounded group with everyone 100% engaged it can be a BLAST

[Tunabros]

plays bard

>does nothing but mana song and kite on raids

>it takes skill, fellow elves

[magnetaress]

Just auttocorrect bard player to bad player and gg.

[Gloomlord]

OP is a bard but groups with other bards... huh?

Yeah. I also play a Necromancer, Paladin and Rogue.

[Gloomlord]

Today, I had 3 awful bards who did nothing but melee.

It's a pandemic of terrible bards on this server.

[khaybrother86]

Stopped reading right there. If you're doing melee as a bard you're a complete shitter.

Hope this helps.

If you can't instrument swap and melee as a Bard, you are lazy. Hope this helps

[khaybrother86]

I love playing my bard but its really a pain in the ass to juggle instruments and constantly twisting songs, using /stopsong to grab that extra tick.

I am over here running myself ragged on the keyboard when someone else is just /afk, /pet attack /cast1 /afk

When I feel it, its really powerful and fun, but when I am not feeling it, I would rather just solo.

With a well rounded group with everyone 100% engaged it can be a BLAST

Best times are in duo's or trios with people who ate actually at the keys. I did quite a bit if leveling on my Bard with a Paladin. Can get into a lot of fun dungeon crawling with that duo.

[Gustoo]

Play the manasong OP and shutup.

YiJnNRt9dUs

This just made my day dude

[Gustoo]

Just auttocorrect bard player to bad player and gg.

hehe

[unsunghero]

If you can't instrument swap and melee as a Bard, you are lazy. Hope this helps

I’d prefer even heavy micromanagement of a bard to the mind numbing monotony of simply hitting backstab every few seconds on rogue

No offense to rogues, but melees in this game are far too basic in terms of how they play compared to (some) casters. I understand that there’s positioning and pulling and stuff which helps tho

But that’s one thing that WoW noticed and heavily improved on, their melees were just as complex as their casters with their own resource systems and wide range of abilities

[nostalgiaquest]

I've always mained a bard in EQ. After playing one, i can't seem to stay interested in any other class past about lvl 40. Bard is just too much fun. So many different ways to play, solo or in groups. Also fun to duo/trio with random classes and figure out the best way to work together. And once you get used to having selo's speed, nothing compares. It makes running from zone to zone actually fun.

But yeah it does take pretty constant attention, and a poorly played bard is worthless.

[Toxigen]

I've always mained a bard in EQ. After playing one, i can't seem to stay interested in any other class past about lvl 40. Bard is just too much fun. So many different ways to play, solo or in groups. Also fun to duo/trio with random classes and figure out the best way to work together. And once you get used to having selo's speed, nothing compares. It makes running from zone to zone actually fun.

But yeah it does take pretty constant attention, and a poorly played bard is worthless.

Except for anything remotely difficult when your charm and mez are rendered useless.

Hop on that enchanter life and never look back.

[Reiwa]

Just auttocorrect bard player to bad player and gg.

I can't figure out how to play more than 3 songs as a bad.

[l0053g0053]

Instead of using spell gems as hotkeys make macro keys with

/stopsong
/cast 1

If gives you a bit more time and can weave 4

/stopsong
/cast #

Make one for each song, 1-8. These are the ones you will use 9 times out of 10, if you're actually paying attention (and when you're the group's puller/cc/tank, you damn well better be paying attention).

You can macro up 2 songs by doing:

/stopsong
/cast 1
/pause 30
/stopsong
/cast 2

You can use a pause of 30. As it stands, it works every time.

You can combine some of the commands onto one line, but never enough to do 3 songs correctly with one macro, so it's there's no real advantage to gain from it. Additionally, the more songs you have per macro the less reliable it will be, and the more work you'll have to do every time you change the songs you have memmed.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20939

[Reiwa]

Instead of using spell gems as hotkeys make macro keys with

/stopsong
/cast 1

If gives you a bit more time and can weave 4



https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20939

Neat, thank you.

[azxten]

Professional Bard here. The point of melee as a Bard is to proc things. Go for useful procs and completely ignore weapon damage/delay. If you're not twisting 4 songs, swapping instruments and weapons, proccing shit, and entertaining the group then you're not playing Bard. If a single mob you're fighting casts a spell you failed and should delete your character.

Also in the current P99 broken channeling/charm/mez meta Enchanter is still ridiculously OP making Bards retarded as a character choice.

[reznor_]

play manasong and shuttup. hope that helps.

I miss the old Ramen

[Toxigen]

Professional Bard here.

lol

[Jujuminjo]

I have no idea what bards are capable of. I have only grouped like 3 times total, but happened to group up with a <castle> bard the other day and was pretty impressed

He was charming adds with me (my huge cha buff apparently helps their charms), and rather than me peeing my mana finishing charm pets, I’d just root it and he’d stack 3 dots on it. Them dots are pretty nasty

And of course that mana song is juicy. It’s a shame that songs don’t affect pets on p99, I coulda swore they did on live EQ

Weren't you quitting because they are nerfing enchanters?

[unsunghero]

Weren't you quitting because they are nerfing enchanters?

What’s up CD alt

How’s that nerf coming along? Think it’ll happen in the next decade or 2?

[unsunghero]

Actually I dunno who’s alt this is, but seems too dumb to be CD

Sorry your class envy is flaring up so badly, keep holding your breath waiting on that nerf

In the meantime, you can brush up on your English here: https://www.rosettastone.com