My EverQuest Experience

[July]

Got kicked out of 3 guilds in the span of 6-weeks, so I felt compelled to talk about my experience in this community.

For starters, I'd like to mention that I'm no stranger to rejection. The first time I was treated poorly for being an autistic person, I was 5-years old. That's never stopped, and it will never stop. It's merely a fact of life. But diving in:

Guild One

With the first guild, I have no idea what I did wrong. The GM basically just said someone thought I was acting weird.

Weeks later, I received a message from one of their members which suggested I'd offended them. They were confident I'd done so knowingly & maliciously, so kicking me was their revenge.

Guild Two

This one was largely my fault: I told someone in Discord to shut-up. In my experience, people are at their worst in groups -- when they're being seen by others. The wrong person took deep offense and wanted to hurt me in return, so I was kicked again.

When I tried to explain my intent to stay out of chats so I don't offend anyone in the future, it was treated as proof I should be removed.

Guild Three

By this point, I'd hidden guild chat entirely & resolved to never use public Discord channels. I didn't want to accidentally offend anyone like I'd done with guild #1, and I didn't want to lose my temper & offend someone like I'd done with guild #2. But one day I found myself AFK in the entrance of TOV for about 10 minutes, (while playing Warcraft in the background), which apparently makes things harder on the DKP-counting-robot.

Understandably, the guild wanted to discourage that behavior. And to their credit, about a week prior I'd AFK'd for several hours in the entrance, not knowing what a problem that would be. The following morning, I woke up to discover I'd been "temporarily" gkicked under the rationale: "so the officers would have to do less work in managing the dkp robot." However, we were killing Vulak at the time... there was no more possibility of DKP administration.

As it turns out, they'd assumed I was maliciously AFK for that 10-minutes, and they expected me to see their gkick as some kind of warning to stop. But autistics don't communicate in hints, subtext & clues. They largely go over my head.

Since I'd assumed they were telling me the truth and behaving irrationally, I pointed out the irrationality.... which made them upset. Having misunderstood this as an attempt to insult them, they escalated with insults & power trips. I basically told them "this is a shitty way to treat people." And that was gkick #3.

Wrap Up

Guild #1 and #3 were aware that I'm autistic. It made no difference.

I'm not posting this for anyone's sympathy, nor to shame anyone, nor to change the outcome of these events. I wish all of these people nothing but the best, and I don't blame anyone for behaving the way they did.

I'm only posting this in the hopes that people will go a little easier on the next autistic person to come through this community. As I often say, our suicide rate is about 7x higher, and it's almost entirely because of how we're treated by others.

Please don't assume all odd behavior has malicious intent. Try to remember there are alternative explanations. Forgiveness & mercy are good for the soul. Wrath is not.

[Chortles Snortles]

https://i.imgur.com/2FELaAz.gif

[Syke410]

you were kicked from <Good Guys> because you told someone to kill themselves.

[Drayzin]

What a bunch of heartless people OP. Sounds like this server needs an Autistics only guild that can rise up and meet the needs of the population and take back the server from the higher functioning autists.

[Toxigen]

lol

[unsunghero]

you were kicked from <Good Guys> because you told someone to kill themselves.

#JustAutismyThings

[Encroaching Death]

I like Autistic people. They're unintentionally based.

And that's just based.

[sedrie.bellamie]

blow it out your arse

[magnetaress]

I get accused of being autistic all the time and I never have had punitive action taken against me by any guilds. Everquest or WoW.

[hobart]

Why did Toxigen need a second account to post that? Also, you left out all the part about being a racist and a repugnant piece of shit.

[Trexller]

Why did Toxigen need a second account to post that? Also, you left out all the part about being a racist and a repugnant piece of shit.

I too am a high functioning autistic adult.

You're a sad sack of shit who insults the disabled.

Go ahead punk, make my day.

[Bardp1999]

Im a complete psychopath and drug addict and have been kicked out of zero guilds. Seek Jesus my young friends

1)Asgard
2)Aftermath
3)Ancient Blood
4)Seal Team

[Chortles Snortles]

https://i.imgur.com/7cLy3T7.png

[Encroaching Death]

Why did Toxigen need a second account to post that? Also, you left out all the part about being a racist and a repugnant piece of shit.

Please stop being Ableist.

[Kohedron]

OP's retarded, lol

[cd288]

Guild one are assholes if they knew you were autistic and kicked you for some odd comments or behavior rather than trying to discuss it with you.

But tbh if you AFK in TOV you risk guild discipline because you look like you're trying to DKP soak. Unfortunately, enough people have done this maliciously that people assume that's what's happening. And it's a fair assumption on their part in my opinion. Don't AFK in TOV for 10+ minutes if you don't want to risk what happens to you as a result.

[Encroaching Death]

https://i.ibb.co/9vhYNPQ/flat-750x-075-f-pad-750x1000-f8f8f8.jpg

[magnetaress]

Autism, autistic should be like the bad words u can't say online. Or at least near the top of the list.

[zelld52]

I'm also a high-functioning austist. I don't use it as a shield to protect me from being an asshole. Based on your post, OP - it seems you are aware enough / intelligent enough to realize that you fucked up. It has nothing to do with you being autistic.

I think I know who you are, and the guild I belong to kicked you because you repeatedly showed you don't care about other players - you were largely unhelpful - said concerning things to members in guild chat and on discord - and you frequently left groups without any notice (as the group's cleric).

Don't use your condition as a reason to claim persecution and ableism, because that's not the truth.

[Ooloo]

Wait is this gnoteeth?!?

[reznor_]

Got kicked out of 3 guilds in the span of 6-weeks, so I felt compelled to talk about my experience in this community.

For starters, I'd like to mention that I'm no stranger to rejection. The first time I was treated poorly for being an autistic person, I was 5-years old. That's never stopped, and it will never stop. It's merely a fact of life. But diving in:

Guild One

With the first guild, I have no idea what I did wrong. The GM basically just said someone thought I was acting weird.

Weeks later, I received a message from one of their members which suggested I'd offended them. They were confident I'd done so knowingly & maliciously, so kicking me was their revenge.

Guild Two

This one was largely my fault: I told someone in Discord to shut-up. In my experience, people are at their worst in groups -- when they're being seen by others. The wrong person took deep offense and wanted to hurt me in return, so I was kicked again.

When I tried to explain my intent to stay out of chats so I don't offend anyone in the future, it was treated as proof I should be removed.

Guild Three

By this point, I'd hidden guild chat entirely & resolved to never use public Discord channels. I didn't want to accidentally offend anyone like I'd done with guild #1, and I didn't want to lose my temper & offend someone like I'd done with guild #2. But one day I found myself AFK in the entrance of TOV for about 10 minutes, (while playing Warcraft in the background), which apparently makes things harder on the DKP-counting-robot.

Understandably, the guild wanted to discourage that behavior. And to their credit, about a week prior I'd AFK'd for several hours in the entrance, not knowing what a problem that would be. The following morning, I woke up to discover I'd been "temporarily" gkicked under the rationale: "so the officers would have to do less work in managing the dkp robot." However, we were killing Vulak at the time... there was no more possibility of DKP administration.

As it turns out, they'd assumed I was maliciously AFK for that 10-minutes, and they expected me to see their gkick as some kind of warning to stop. But autistics don't communicate in hints, subtext & clues. They largely go over my head.

Since I'd assumed they were telling me the truth and behaving irrationally, I pointed out the irrationality.... which made them upset. Having misunderstood this as an attempt to insult them, they escalated with insults & power trips. I basically told them "this is a shitty way to treat people." And that was gkick #3.

Wrap Up

Guild #1 and #3 were aware that I'm autistic. It made no difference.

I'm not posting this for anyone's sympathy, nor to shame anyone, nor to change the outcome of these events. I wish all of these people nothing but the best, and I don't blame anyone for behaving the way they did.

I'm only posting this in the hopes that people will go a little easier on the next autistic person to come through this community. As I often say, our suicide rate is about 7x higher, and it's almost entirely because of how we're treated by others.

Please don't assume all odd behavior has malicious intent. Try to remember there are alternative explanations. Forgiveness & mercy are good for the soul. Wrath is not.

yeah you suck

[Lostfaction]

Mistake #4 was posting this in rnf.

But in all honesty telling a raid leader to [redacted] over coms in the middle of a AOW engage is a bit challenging to just look past. Maybe stick to smaller group content.

[Twochain]

Got kicked out of 3 guilds in the span of 6-weeks, so I felt compelled to talk about my experience in this community.

For starters, I'd like to mention that I'm no stranger to rejection. The first time I was treated poorly for being an autistic person, I was 5-years old. That's never stopped, and it will never stop. It's merely a fact of life. But diving in:

Guild One

With the first guild, I have no idea what I did wrong. The GM basically just said someone thought I was acting weird.

Weeks later, I received a message from one of their members which suggested I'd offended them. They were confident I'd done so knowingly & maliciously, so kicking me was their revenge.

Guild Two

This one was largely my fault: I told someone in Discord to shut-up. In my experience, people are at their worst in groups -- when they're being seen by others. The wrong person took deep offense and wanted to hurt me in return, so I was kicked again.

When I tried to explain my intent to stay out of chats so I don't offend anyone in the future, it was treated as proof I should be removed.

Guild Three

By this point, I'd hidden guild chat entirely & resolved to never use public Discord channels. I didn't want to accidentally offend anyone like I'd done with guild #1, and I didn't want to lose my temper & offend someone like I'd done with guild #2. But one day I found myself AFK in the entrance of TOV for about 10 minutes, (while playing Warcraft in the background), which apparently makes things harder on the DKP-counting-robot.

Understandably, the guild wanted to discourage that behavior. And to their credit, about a week prior I'd AFK'd for several hours in the entrance, not knowing what a problem that would be. The following morning, I woke up to discover I'd been "temporarily" gkicked under the rationale: "so the officers would have to do less work in managing the dkp robot." However, we were killing Vulak at the time... there was no more possibility of DKP administration.

As it turns out, they'd assumed I was maliciously AFK for that 10-minutes, and they expected me to see their gkick as some kind of warning to stop. But autistics don't communicate in hints, subtext & clues. They largely go over my head.

Since I'd assumed they were telling me the truth and behaving irrationally, I pointed out the irrationality.... which made them upset. Having misunderstood this as an attempt to insult them, they escalated with insults & power trips. I basically told them "this is a shitty way to treat people." And that was gkick #3.

Wrap Up

Guild #1 and #3 were aware that I'm autistic. It made no difference.

I'm not posting this for anyone's sympathy, nor to shame anyone, nor to change the outcome of these events. I wish all of these people nothing but the best, and I don't blame anyone for behaving the way they did.

I'm only posting this in the hopes that people will go a little easier on the next autistic person to come through this community. As I often say, our suicide rate is about 7x higher, and it's almost entirely because of how we're treated by others.

Please don't assume all odd behavior has malicious intent. Try to remember there are alternative explanations. Forgiveness & mercy are good for the soul. Wrath is not.

I'm sorry bro. All I can say is that you need to make yourself more useful for the guild. It's hard to kick someone who is eager to step up and help in any way possible.

Kabull was able to do it and he's on the spectrum, so can you.

[meathook]

Yo TwoChain, did you get my DM??

[gkmarino]

Yo DM, did you get my twochain?

[Toxigen]

you sliding into my DMs?

[Tunabros]

OP is lying lol

[MrSparkle001]

https://c.tenor.com/75WYdyhnDFsAAAAC/barron-trump-melania-trump.gif

[cd288]

OP is lying lol

Oh hey it's the dude who said he was leaving P99 because he had a kid and that everyone was jealous of him for having a "life"

Color me shocked that he's still here

[Balimon]

My oldest son has autism, and during your application process I fought for you to have a fair chance, knowing some of the challenges you have faced in your life. After you joined you proved yourself to be a competent, active, and quiet player. This was great, there's no rule that you have to be social, our rules are very clear: play when you want, follow the rules and have a good time. You were up front about how you feel about other people and our response was: No problem, just follow the rules, which includes treating people with respect.

You can't use autism as a shield to be a dick to people, which is what you do. You are obviously intelligent, you should realize that even if you don't care what people think about you that being rude and belligerent doesn't get you anywhere in a social game like this. Instead of taking direction from leadership about curbing your rude behavior, which I'd like to add is against the rules in the guild, you basically told them to screw off and that we were on 'thin ice'. If you were just able to take simple direction or criticism about your behavior you would still be guilded. These are all minor issues that other new players have no issue with regardless of their neuro status.

I'm glad you posted here because I had thought about DMing you, and I really wanted a chance to let you know that you have missed an opportunity here. Hopefully you can use this as a learning experience, being nice to people is easier and gets you farther more often than being rude. Why do you always take the hard road? What do you think you have to prove? All sorts of people have autism, it's a gift, use it for good and help the people that you share this life with instead of thinking that you are somehow not a part of a community and have a role to play. Please take care and good luck to you!

[Videri]

Now, that's a good guy. ^

[Reiwa]

Now, that's a good guy. ^

Videri guild soaking mad DKP with the batphone replies.

[Twochain]

Yo TwoChain, did you get my DM??

Lmao what DM my friend?? U trying to get Slanging into GG?

[branamil]

Got kicked out of 3 guilds in the span of 6-weeks, so I felt compelled to talk about my experience in this community.

For starters, I'd like to mention that I'm no stranger to rejection. The first time I was treated poorly for being an autistic person, I was 5-years old. That's never stopped, and it will never stop. It's merely a fact of life. But diving in:

Guild One

With the first guild, I have no idea what I did wrong. The GM basically just said someone thought I was acting weird.

Weeks later, I received a message from one of their members which suggested I'd offended them. They were confident I'd done so knowingly & maliciously, so kicking me was their revenge.

Guild Two

This one was largely my fault: I told someone in Discord to shut-up. In my experience, people are at their worst in groups -- when they're being seen by others. The wrong person took deep offense and wanted to hurt me in return, so I was kicked again.

When I tried to explain my intent to stay out of chats so I don't offend anyone in the future, it was treated as proof I should be removed.

Guild Three

By this point, I'd hidden guild chat entirely & resolved to never use public Discord channels. I didn't want to accidentally offend anyone like I'd done with guild #1, and I didn't want to lose my temper & offend someone like I'd done with guild #2. But one day I found myself AFK in the entrance of TOV for about 10 minutes, (while playing Warcraft in the background), which apparently makes things harder on the DKP-counting-robot.

Understandably, the guild wanted to discourage that behavior. And to their credit, about a week prior I'd AFK'd for several hours in the entrance, not knowing what a problem that would be. The following morning, I woke up to discover I'd been "temporarily" gkicked under the rationale: "so the officers would have to do less work in managing the dkp robot." However, we were killing Vulak at the time... there was no more possibility of DKP administration.

As it turns out, they'd assumed I was maliciously AFK for that 10-minutes, and they expected me to see their gkick as some kind of warning to stop. But autistics don't communicate in hints, subtext & clues. They largely go over my head.

Since I'd assumed they were telling me the truth and behaving irrationally, I pointed out the irrationality.... which made them upset. Having misunderstood this as an attempt to insult them, they escalated with insults & power trips. I basically told them "this is a shitty way to treat people." And that was gkick #3.

Wrap Up

Guild #1 and #3 were aware that I'm autistic. It made no difference.

I'm not posting this for anyone's sympathy, nor to shame anyone, nor to change the outcome of these events. I wish all of these people nothing but the best, and I don't blame anyone for behaving the way they did.

I'm only posting this in the hopes that people will go a little easier on the next autistic person to come through this community. As I often say, our suicide rate is about 7x higher, and it's almost entirely because of how we're treated by others.

Please don't assume all odd behavior has malicious intent. Try to remember there are alternative explanations. Forgiveness & mercy are good for the soul. Wrath is not.

Imagine being rejected out of a virtual elf enjoyer society composed of people who were themselves rejected from regular society. There's no hope for you bro

[magnetaress]

Imagine being rejected out of a virtual elf enjoyer society composed of people who were themselves rejected from regular society. There's no hope for you bro

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

My oldest son has autism, and during your application process I fought for you to have a fair chance, knowing some of the challenges you have faced in your life. After you joined you proved yourself to be a competent, active, and quiet player. This was great, there's no rule that you have to be social, our rules are very clear: play when you want, follow the rules and have a good time. You were up front about how you feel about other people and our response was: No problem, just follow the rules, which includes treating people with respect.

You can't use autism as a shield to be a dick to people, which is what you do. You are obviously intelligent, you should realize that even if you don't care what people think about you that being rude and belligerent doesn't get you anywhere in a social game like this. Instead of taking direction from leadership about curbing your rude behavior, which I'd like to add is against the rules in the guild, you basically told them to screw off and that we were on 'thin ice'. If you were just able to take simple direction or criticism about your behavior you would still be guilded. These are all minor issues that other new players have no issue with regardless of their neuro status.

I'm glad you posted here because I had thought about DMing you, and I really wanted a chance to let you know that you have missed an opportunity here. Hopefully you can use this as a learning experience, being nice to people is easier and gets you farther more often than being rude. Why do you always take the hard road? What do you think you have to prove? All sorts of people have autism, it's a gift, use it for good and help the people that you share this life with instead of thinking that you are somehow not a part of a community and have a role to play. Please take care and good luck to you!


I'd like to second the post. I work with a lot of group homes and retirement villages, and we use p99 to teach residents basic life skills if they are ready for social interaction.


It's a nice mix-up because we use Blood emulators for motor skills.

[Cecily]

Do you have any pointers?

[Chortles Snortles]

https://i.imgur.com/IiruBKk.gif

[Valakut]

why p99 got all this autism on autism crime going on?

[Tunabros]

Oh hey it's the dude who said he was leaving P99 because he had a kid and that everyone was jealous of him for having a "life"

Color me shocked that he's still here

last i checked p99 forums and in game are not the same thing?

maybe learn to read, fuck ass retard

[magnetaress]

last i checked p99 forums and in game are not the same thing?

maybe learn to read, fuck ass retard

Plz don't talk to your kid or self like that.

[Tunabros]

i dont

which is why i do it to people on here

[unsunghero]

Plz don't talk to your kid or self like that.

I dunno, can you remember anything before age 3?

You can say whatever disturbing shit you want as long as you say it in a nice friendly tone. Sort of like you could do with your dog. “You’re a piece of shit you know that?” but said your in nice dog-owner voice and the dog will love you for it

[magnetaress]

I dunno, can you remember anything before age 3?

You can say whatever disturbing shit you want as long as you say it in a nice friendly tone. Sort of like you could do with your dog. “You’re a piece of shit you know that?” but said your in nice dog-owner voice and the dog will love you for it

I remember some stuff. I'm pretty special tho. Point is you never know and it's more fundamental before their brains fully develop. Putting a kid around loud machine noises or lots of gunfire on a regular but sporadic basis probably has developmental effect. Some good, some bad likely.

I don't really know. I wouldn't risk it. I know how a violent abusive childhood effected me. Best for Tunabros to grow and mature and get in good habits now. Rather than turn his little Mozart into a puts the lotion on its skin marine. Could be 10 years from now. My advice still stands.

[magnetaress]

I remember some stuff. I'm pretty special tho. Point is you never know and it's more fundamental before their brains fully develop. Putting a kid around loud machine noises or lots of gunfire on a regular but sporadic basis probably has developmental effect. Some good, some bad likely.

I don't really know. I wouldn't risk it. I know how a violent abusive childhood effected me. Best for Tunabros to grow and mature and get in good habits now. Rather than turn his little Mozart into a puts the lotion on its skin marine. Could be 10 years from now. My advice still stands.

Actually now that u mentioned it I can't repeat what I remember from that age here. At least a few of the memories are good.

Some are pretty horrific tho.

[unsunghero]

I remember some stuff. I'm pretty special tho. Point is you never know and it's more fundamental before their brains fully develop. Putting a kid around loud machine noises or lots of gunfire on a regular but sporadic basis probably has developmental effect. Some good, some bad likely.

I don't really know. I wouldn't risk it. I know how a violent abusive childhood effected me. Best for Tunabros to grow and mature and get in good habits now. Rather than turn his little Mozart into a puts the lotion on its skin marine. Could be 10 years from now. My advice still stands.

Yeah that’s why I mentioned HOW you say it is all that matters, as in your tone and your facial expression, not the actual words. Not for a newborn that lacks the concept of language

Angry yelling, withholding affection, etc are things that can screw a baby up, not word choice. But hey, I’m not a parent so…

[magnetaress]

Yeah that’s why I mentioned HOW you say it is all that matters, as in your tone and your facial expression, not the actual words. Not for a newborn that lacks the concept of language

Angry yelling, withholding affection, etc are things that can screw a baby up, not word choice. But hey, I’m not a parent so…

Well I was trying to say I remember some bad physical things. None are verbal or language related tho

[Sirban]

#macequest

[razzdazz2]

Did Linnae just claim autism?

[Raj]

Did Linnae just claim autism?

This whole topic and story has nothing to do with Linnae and could very well be completely fabricated anyways. You or the OP trying to frame her or something? Lol :cool:

Talk about boiling cats or some other crazy but real thing if you have some butthurt or grievance and want to stay honest. :cool:

[magnetaress]

Face it everyone is obsessed.

Except me.

Hope ur doing well tho.

[quido]

The right guild for you will help you to wield your autism for the betterment and enjoyment of everyone. I hope you find them.

I personally think everyone is both autistic and a savant in their own right. People always associate autism with just the social and a few other mainstream autism traits, but I think there's all different flavors of autism and everyone has at least a couple of them.

[reznor_]

Based

[goblinmob]

Yes. I too, have chosen "Not Like the Others" for my 1st lvl perk.