Hate mongering / hate speech question, Oh no.

[Frontier]

My question is simply does p1999 allow freedom of speech or not?

[Mblake1981]

Go back to WoW

[Ratchet51]

Yeah, you'd get banned for that.

[Mblake1981]

I also like to spell it as averege so people know my iq is high, the shit I took the morning was lumpy and light color, not much effort required and it flushed clean.

[unsunghero]

I like that the P99 forums aren’t as cucked as places like Reddit (that I’m banned from)

But no, that stuff probably wouldn’t fly here. Maybe someone could get away with it for a while until a mod noticed

[unsunghero]

Edit: it’s unlikely that even The Donald would put up with that shit. They’d assume you were undercover FBI trying to stir up shit to get the site shut down

Your only bet would be 4chan

[18120]

Enjoy your ban.

[Smoofers]

waow based

[Encroaching Death]

Please just obey and do not question anything.

[SantagarBrax]

5th Circuit ruled against Big Tech censoring Free Speech last week so it's surely going to SC.

[SantagarBrax]

Have staff drawn battle lines as well?

[Reiwa]

5th Circuit ruled against Big Tech censoring Free Speech last week so it's surely going to SC.

They can just ignore it and it's only binding in that circuit. Look away, look away, look away.

[Reiwa]

(not that it was ruled on merit this is just more fun)

[hobart]

My question is simply does p1999 allow freedom of speech or not?

Is p99 the government? No.

If you say hateful and repugnant shit in my house, I'll give your ass the boot. Why should you be treated any differently in this house?

[Reiwa]

Is p99 the government? No.

But is it a newspaper or is it a telephone company?

Those are the only options, soz. :o

[Rager and Quitter]

My question is simply does p1999 allow freedom of speech or not?

The only real question whether or not something is acceptable to say is: Does it offend any group besides white males? If so, then you cannot say it. Welcome to 2022.

[SantagarBrax]

Free Speech is the bedrock of freedom. It's a worthy ideal to strive for in all of humanity, not just for "government". In order for one to be able to think, one must risk being offensive/offended.

[unsunghero]

I love free speech, but humans have within them the capability to be too annoying, stupid, and/or weird to allow any public space without moderation

As Louis CK joked, all it takes is a single word, and you can ground an airplane in flight. And that word is not bomb, or anything violent. You can simply say the word "DOWN", over and over...and if you do not stop saying it, they will land the fucking plane. That's the kind of power words can have, when you get really really annoying with them

If free speech > all, then people should be allowed to spam chat rooms and message boards with ads. Or any kind of spam

So if we agree that certain things need to be blocked, then free speech really can't exist without moderation. The rest is just deciding what to block

[cd288]

In the rules it says:

The following actions would be considered abuse:
1. Hate Mongering - participation in or propagation of Hate literature, behavior, or propaganda related to real -world characteristics.

So how does p1999 interpret this rule, would i get banned for example for stating my belief that the alleged genocide referred to as the "holocaust" is a lie?

Would i get banned for saying the fact that black people have lower iq than whites on averege?

Wtf is wrong with you someone please report this idiot

[Jibartik]

I think if your post count remains 0 you can say whatever the fuck you want.

[SantagarBrax]

I don't believe anyone is advocating for zero moderation nor does anyone want to go backwards to slinging shit at each other in the zoo.

I do believe there is a bigger problem when a member of staff conducts behavior that is apologetic towards subjective "certain phrases", censors said phrases under threat of punishment, and censors players trying to gain clarification because he doesn't like what they have to say or ask.

Is a pattern emerging?

[Reiwa]

I don't believe anyone is advocating for zero moderation nor does anyone want to go backwards to slinging shit at each other in the zoo.

I do believe there is a bigger problem when a member of staff conducts behavior that is apologetic towards subjective "certain phrases", censors said phrases under threat of punishment, and censors players trying to gain clarification because he doesn't like what they have to say or ask.

Is a pattern emerging?

It's real disappointing if that's what this thread is about.

[Toxigen]

hehe

[Encroaching Death]

It's real disappointing if that's what this thread is about.

I was listening to a podcast where one of the hosts wouldn't let another say "I disagree with China" for fear they would get banned.

"I disagree with China".

We are cowards.

[Elfminster]

The only real question whether or not something is acceptable to say is: Does it offend any group besides white males? If so, then you cannot say it. Welcome to 2022.

That would indicate that the white man is the king of the beasts because he can take the abuse and nobody else can which is something to be proud of if you think about it. It means that contrary to popular belief you're a strong sacrificial lamb because nobody else can take the beatings like you can.

However, 'white man' is too vague. A man who is straight and values certain principles receives bigger lashings.

Poverty is the greatest abuser though.

Mass media insults are nothing compared to being poor for real.

Don't tell me you're being persecuted while you sit in a jacuzzi next to the love of your life.

Values > skin color
Reality > your fantasy

[Elfminster]

Would i get banned for saying the fact that black people have lower iq than whites on averege?

That would be a big no no.

You can say they have more intelligence but not less intelligence (ref: Erudite and Humans).

You can also say white humans have less intelligence than lizards (ref: Iksar and Humans).

If you want to say something 'offensive' and get away with then you need to have something to hide behind or to get somebody to say it for you.

Examples: screenwriter, comedien, actor

Now if I were black and you wrote that and I couldn't scrutinize your claim because somebody banned you and spoke on my behalf I would be upset because I don't like being censored.

I would tell you that ALL mortals no matter their IQ is are morons because they all work for NOTHING.

[Toxigen]

the average P99er is the same type of person that would agree James Watson deserved to have his honorary titles stripped

[Encroaching Death]

the average P99er is the same type of person that would agree James Watson deserved to have his honorary titles stripped

I don't know who that gentleman is, but he sounds nice, and I don't want anyone to have their titles stripped.

Science should be practiced, no matter what answer it comes up with. Even if it proves or disproves god or cures cancer (bye bye Ontologists...hope homelessness is fun)

[Toxigen]

I don't know who that gentleman is, but he sounds nice, and I don't want anyone to have their titles stripped.

Science should be practiced, no matter what answer it comes up with. Even if it proves or disproves god or cures cancer (bye bye Ontologists...hope homelessness is fun)

Nah man haven't you heard? Mathematics and being on time are now racial constructs.

Get woke ya fuckin bigot.

[Encroaching Death]

Nah man haven't you heard? Mathematics and being on time are now racial constructs.

Get woke ya fuckin bigot.

I won't apologize for being a human :p

[Smoofers]

Civilization is racist, hope this helps

[hobart]

Nah man haven't you heard? Mathematics and being on time are now racial constructs.

Get woke ya fuckin bigot.

Weren't you kicked out of multiple guilds for being a repugnant piece of shit?

[hobart]

I don't believe anyone is advocating for zero moderation nor does anyone want to go backwards to slinging shit at each other in the zoo.

I do believe there is a bigger problem when a member of staff conducts behavior that is apologetic towards subjective "certain phrases", censors said phrases under threat of punishment, and censors players trying to gain clarification because he doesn't like what they have to say or ask.

Is a pattern emerging?

If it's a problem, that staff member will be removed.

Free speech doesn't mean you're free from repercussions. If you think it does, let me head over to your mom's house and curse at her for 20-30 mins. You can come by and support my free speech while I do it.

[Patrece]

Free speech means clean it up janny

Hobart is a self admitted bivalent cuck

[Encroaching Death]

Civilization is racist, hope this helps

https://i.redd.it/563z0czjyp041.jpg

[Encroaching Death]

If it's a problem, that staff member will be removed.

Free speech doesn't mean you're free from repercussions. If you think it does, let me head over to your mom's house and curse at her for 20-30 mins. You can come by and support my free speech while I do it.

That's called 'harrassment'.

You shouldn't be attacked if you discuss taxes with my mom.

You know, like civilized people do.

[Bardp1999]

Not sure how these ideas or thoughts belong in elf sim, seek sunshine and maybe turn your computer off for a day or two

[magnetaress]

P99 does not allow freedom of speech and expression.

There are limits and standards. No nazi shaped rainbow shapes for example. No big black male genitalia. Probably goes for others. Boobies at least need pasties. Bloody wounds are also a no go even if ur just seeking medical advice. These all come from my own experience here.

Best just to talk about the weather and multiboxing.

Hope this helps.

[Encroaching Death]

P99 does not allow freedom of speech and expression.

There are limits and standards. No nazi shaped rainbow shapes for example. No big black male genitalia. Probably goes for others. Boobies at least need pasties. Bloody wounds are also a no go even if ur just seeking medical advice. These all come from my own experience here.

Best just to talk about the weather and multiboxing.

Hope this helps.

One of these days we will live in an EQ world where everything is accepted, no matter how heinous it's perceived by the priesthood.

For now I will live and reside in the sewers with the rest of the Bloodsabres (4Chan) where we can freely have gay orgies, shoot "illegal" fireworks, and scream the N word as loud as we want.

[Grapeape]

Not sure how these ideas or thoughts belong in elf sim, seek sunshine and maybe turn your computer off for a day or two

[unsunghero]

One of these days we will live in an EQ world where everything is accepted, no matter how heinous it's perceived by the priesthood.



I dunno man. I don’t think many people would like it if they went to check the forum and I had posted another pic of a giant gaping bloody butthole like the goatse one from back in the day

They could /ignore my account but what if I made new ones

There’s certain things that are universally accepted as not acceptable for most mediums, things like porn, extreme violence/gore, extreme vulgarity/profanity. I have no problem lumping in blatant racism and <Hitler did nothing wrong> dumb shit meant to be provoke like that. But that’s where I draw the line, pretty chill with most other stuff

[unsunghero]

Edit: I guess a way to sum this idea above up is that I don’t think we have to live in a “progressive” society but we have to live in a civilized one

[Frontier]

So a small followup, my original post in the thread has been purged and i got a PM from a senior guide which reads:

Originally Posted by Ambrogio
Greetings!
Senior Guide Ambrogio here. Please refrain from utilizing the type of comment seen in your thread entitled, Hate mongering / hate speech question, Oh no. We do not tolerate that type of speech or behavior. Failure to comply will result in actions taken against your account.

I've written back asking for clarification on which of my "comments" broke the rules and how.

[Jibartik]

This guy has zero posts.

https://i.imgur.com/Yy0ZXMc.gif

[unsunghero]

I've written back asking for clarification on which of my "comments" broke the rules and how.

oooh I bet he can't come up with a reason and has to un-delete the comment

When he does be sure to screenshot it so you can show 4chan how you beat the system

[unsunghero]

Don't forget when you get the moderator in a logic trap about censorship be sure to tip your fedora to him and say "nothing personal, but...checkmate"

[Chortles Snortles]

https://i.imgur.com/2qWJcD7.jpg