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zelld52
08-16-2022, 09:16 AM
Been kickin around a bunch of toons with some pretty good twink gear, and wondering if anything will compete with my other toons.

First toon was Shaman, blasted to 60 in a few months without having to meditate via bind wound and cannibalize.. Torpor.. farmed plats.. etc. Made a rogue alt to 55 (retired)... cleric alt to 55 (retired)... Warrior alt to 55 (retired)...

Then I rolled Monk with Fungi, CoF, Runed Fighter Staff and Elder Beads. Jesus. Soloed to 60, crawled tons of dungeons, had (having) a blast.

But I want to roll another toon. However, around level 30-40 I keep petering out and the grind gets very boring for any of my toons. (30s paladin, ranger, bard, shadowknight, 2nd shaman, 2nd rogue) It could be my bias - but none of these classes seem super efficient when compared to the monk with RFS shredding through every mob... Also can't do the same fun / dangerous camps as the monk as well without instant FD / sneak / etc.

I've tried enchanter, but I like to play a bit more casual now and be able to walk away from PC and not have to babysit a charmed pet. Bard was fun, lots of utility but damn the melee damage sucks, having songs interrupted is worse than spells being interrupted, and swarm kiting frustrates me to no end. Paladin fun to Lull pull and heal groups when needed, but lack of invis hurts. SK is fun to tank with, but it's like a tankier monk with worse FD, worse offense, and no sneak. Rogue - not going there again. Ranger - fun, but lack of damage still compared to monk / rogue, and seems they really drop off around level 50.

I have not played casters on p99 (besides level 20 enc). I know the levelling curve is typically opposite casters compared to melee where the higher level you get, the more tools you get to effectively solo. (Melee, the opposite). Would this make me feel more powerful in that level 30-40 slump?

I know Necro is probably a solid choice that can solo well to 60, casually. But -- anyone else had similar experience and been spoiled by monk? What do next? Sell my melee twink gear and Roll Necro with a Zlandicar Heart? Pick a tank and stick with it? ...Retire from p99? <3

Crede
08-16-2022, 09:54 AM
Monk is a broke ass class on this server. Not much gonna compare so I’d get that outta your head.

Necro was a blast though, but they don’t really start getting good until 34+ I’d say enc is more like 29 with c but I don’t think enc will fit your play style.

DeathsSilkyMist
08-16-2022, 10:05 AM
Might want to try a Wizard. They are quite fun to solo, and you have a lot to look forward to between epic and various damage clickies. They have good damage throughout their life, you are just going to be medding in between fights.

Enchanter is also a lot of fun, and I agree with Crede. Enchanters are similar to Shamans in the sense that they don't get good until you are in the mid game, in the 30s. I have a level 28 Enchanter at the moment with Z Heart and it is pretty great. Between Breeze and ZHeart I don't have too much downtime unless I am really unlucky with mob resists. Enchanter will also scratch your itch of being able to do difficult camps, things that your Monk/Shaman can't do like Siren's Grotto.

zelld52
08-16-2022, 10:16 AM
Monk is a broke ass class on this server. Not much gonna compare so I’d get that outta your head.


I know. I almost wish I waited til the end of my p99 career to roll a monk. NothingCompares2U monk

zelld52
08-16-2022, 10:17 AM
Might want to try a Wizard. They are quite fun to solo, and you have a lot to look forward to between epic and various damage clickies. They have good damage throughout their life, you are just going to be medding in between fights.

Enchanter is also a lot of fun, and I agree with Crede. Enchanters are similar to Shamans in the sense that they don't get good until you are in the mid game, in the 30s. I have a level 28 Enchanter at the moment with Z Heart and it is pretty great. Between Breeze and ZHeart I don't have too much downtime unless I am really unlucky with mob resists. Enchanter will also scratch your itch of being able to do difficult camps, things that your Monk/Shaman can't do like Siren's Grotto.

Enchanter with a Z Heart sounds awesome. The lack of regen / heals was the other real thing keeping me from continuing on Enc.

Also kicked around rolling a wizard with the fun clicks. Might be fun to log in 2-3 hours a night, 3-4 nights a week. (my current play availability)

Crede
08-16-2022, 10:22 AM
I know. I almost wish I waited til the end of my p99 career to roll a monk. NothingCompares2U monk

I did a monk on live for years, so when I came here my goal was to try every other class, which I have.

Most fun for me have been Necro & Enchanter. Wizard was surprisingly enjoyable once you get to 34 & quadding is very easy/relaxing. Make sure to go DE for hide if you go this route. Most productive class IRL I've had was definitely wiz. Being able to insta pull stuff with flux staff aoe snare is nice for rounding up a quad in a matter of seconds.

I've also done several SK builds. For some reason I keep going back to that class, so many good races available and with a reaver you pretty much slaughter everything until 51. Their epic is so cool if you can manage to get one, the proc is amazing and at 50+ I can kill pretty much nonstop with it if you're open to some fear kiting. Their pets also get a lot better at 52/58 compared to the lower ones.

Kich867
08-16-2022, 10:24 AM
Enchanter with a Z Heart sounds awesome. The lack of regen / heals was the other real thing keeping me from continuing on Enc.

Also kicked around rolling a wizard with the fun clicks. Might be fun to log in 2-3 hours a night, 3-4 nights a week. (my current play availability)

Currently leveling a Wizard, it's slow to start but once it picks up it picks up. It becomes really obvious why they aren't great in groups when you do group, but solo they're extremely effective.

I just started quadding at 35, and it's simply the most fun thing to me. The XP rate is completely stupid and if you could routinely get SoW / Clarity I doubt much compares to how fast you level. Got halfway through my hell level in a couple hours so far. I loved quadding on my druid as well--which, by the way, is also a very fun class if you haven't tried them.

Druids aren't ever amazing in groups, but they kinda do everything, and transitioning from a Druid to just about anything else is hard. Having SoW, levitate, teleports, snare, root, and decent DoT's and nukes, its just so convenient. You can always be where you want to be. You can solo just about everything. If you get your epic it's even better. You can powerlevel people later. Really, really love druids.

zelld52
08-16-2022, 10:36 AM
Strong arguments for wizard here. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

zelld52
08-16-2022, 10:41 AM
I've also done several SK builds. For some reason I keep going back to that class, so many good races available and with a reaver you pretty much slaughter everything until 51. Their epic is so cool if you can manage to get one, the proc is amazing and at 50+ I can kill pretty much nonstop with it if you're open to some fear kiting. Their pets also get a lot better at 52/58 compared to the lower ones.

My current twink is an Ogre SK twink. It's really fun to carry groups with. I also have a 45 Iksar SK -- which is fun for different reasons --- but that Ogre strength WOOF my Massive Dragonclaw Shard hits HARD

Crede
08-16-2022, 10:43 AM
Strong arguments for wizard here. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

All pure casters are pretty much leveling machines once you get to the 30s. Mages get a bit of a head start. I hear chain petting is kinda broke atm but also a relaxing class with really fun and powerful pets.

I would just port to wc and donate for potg on my wiz and the xp would flow in. It will slow down 55+ though, not a lot of options unless you can befriend a bard to aoe, only a few good quadding spots left at that point and usually camped like WL sents. I stopped playing at mine at 57 but still enjoyed it more than I thought I would.

Crede
08-16-2022, 10:43 AM
My current twink is an Ogre SK twink. It's really fun to carry groups with. I also have a 45 Iksar SK -- which is fun for different reasons --- but that Ogre strength WOOF my Massive Dragonclaw Shard hits HARD

Heh yea reaver is even better I’m pretty sure my ogre sk was out dpsing monks until the 50s

Jimjam
08-16-2022, 10:58 AM
Necromancer could be seen as a monk/enc hybrid. If anything will come close to monk, while letting you take random afk breaks this is the class for you.

An alternative could be magician since you seem to have a thing with shelving toons at 55.

zelld52
08-16-2022, 12:24 PM
Necromancer could be seen as a monk/enc hybrid. If anything will come close to monk, while letting you take random afk breaks this is the class for you.

An alternative could be magician since you seem to have a thing with shelving toons at 55.

Heh thought of that -- I didn't have as much of a problem with 55-60 on shaman and monk because of solo capabilities (really, solo options). War / Clr / Rog all grp dependant, and grouping 55+ gets tiresome. But -- realistically, not sure this toon will even make it to 55. Just wanna get through the 30s and 40s lol

Keebz
08-16-2022, 02:48 PM
Do you just want the class for leveling or do you want raid or farm?

All the melees are gonna crush 1-50 with Fungi/CoF/Weapons and it's not gonna be a whole lot different between classes because you're just facerolling. The hybrids have a bit more variety if you learn their kit, which unfortunately is not required when you're twinked to hell. That being said, I enjoy my SK much more than my 60 monk for derping around. Monk is like a 2 button class.

If it's just for the leveling exp, I'd consider Ench/Necro/Bard/Druid/Mage. All capable non-melee soloers that will provide a new experience for you. I'd also suggest trying out raiding if you're getting bored with the exp grind.

Keebz
08-16-2022, 03:48 PM
Also, FWIW Wizard is very one-note but chill. Druid and Mage have awesome Velious armor clickies (assuming those didn't get nerfed) which are OP to twink with. Bards are more fun charm kiting, than swarming. Necro/Ench are just OP esp. w/ Z Heart, but are gonna take til like 30 until they come into their own.

Crede
08-16-2022, 03:50 PM
Also, FWIW Wizard is very one-note but chill. Druid and Mage have awesome Velious armor clickies (assuming those didn't get nerfed) which are OP to twink with. Bards are more fun charm kiting, than swarming. Necro/Ench are just OP esp. w/ Z Heart, but are gonna take til like 30 until they come into their own.

Pretty sure you can’t do the velious armor twinks anymore at lvl 5 or whatever it used to be

Keebz
08-16-2022, 03:58 PM
Pretty sure you can’t do the velious armor twinks anymore at lvl 5 or whatever it used to be

Is it all of them or just druid? Lvl 5 druid with regrowth was the best. Either way is weak af.

I will say druids are still a fun twink even with just a fungi (yes druids can wear fungi) and an oakleaf scimitar. Around 35, you gotta start being a caster though.

sajbert
08-16-2022, 05:16 PM
You’ll get bored with Wiz.

Go with Druid. Charm, root rot, nuke - quite a few ways to twink (manastone plus fungi eheh) and ports are amazing. Once you had ports anything w/o firepot bind feels like a brick to play.

zelld52
08-17-2022, 11:48 AM
Think I'm goin necro. The toolkit is wonderful. Feign death is also juicy so I can FD and just walk away for like 30+ mins

Crede
08-17-2022, 03:51 PM
Think I'm goin necro. The toolkit is wonderful. Feign death is also juicy so I can FD and just walk away for like 30+ mins

Excellent choice.

I went Human Eyepatch Necro with my Zheart, loved every minute of it. Got lots of compliments, only a few iksar haters. Class is just stupidly powerful I never felt like I needed the extra regen.

zelld52
08-17-2022, 03:55 PM
Excellent choice.

I went Human Eyepatch Necro with my Zheart, loved every minute of it. Got lots of compliments, only a few iksar haters. Class is just stupidly powerful I never felt like I needed the extra regen.

I actually have a 40 Iksar necro I could pick up.... BUT -- I was considering rerolling. Gonna try to pick up a Z Heart anyway, to negate the need for Iksar regen. Human eyepatch, or gnomer seem cool. But starting from level 1 doesn't. Not being KoS would be awesome. I have to travel to Neriak on Iksar to bank from EC and it sucks.

Crede
08-17-2022, 04:01 PM
I actually have a 40 Iksar necro I could pick up.... BUT -- I was considering rerolling. Gonna try to pick up a Z Heart anyway, to negate the need for Iksar regen. Human eyepatch, or gnomer seem cool. But starting from level 1 doesn't. Not being KoS would be awesome. I have to travel to Neriak on Iksar to bank from EC and it sucks.

Both solid options, I started charming as soon as I could, pre nerf CoS is great if you can get one.

zelld52
08-17-2022, 04:48 PM
Both solid options, I started charming as soon as I could, pre nerf CoS is great if you can get one.

I tried a bit of this in Kaesora, but was having a rough time CCing the warders after charm breaks. Screaming terror didnt seem to last long enough to stop them from healing themselves

Crede
08-17-2022, 05:47 PM
I tried a bit of this in Kaesora, but was having a rough time CCing the warders after charm breaks. Screaming terror didnt seem to last long enough to stop them from healing themselves

Not sure what you mean. Best to pet the warders first, and use undead nukes to finish them when you break charm at 1-2% with pre nerf cos/gob ring. Usually ward or expulse undead did the trick, keep the others rooted. Screaming terror your pet to recharm if needed.

Philistine
08-17-2022, 06:31 PM
Think I'm goin necro. The toolkit is wonderful. Feign death is also juicy so I can FD and just walk away for like 30+ mins

I feel like this is what you're looking for. Super powerful in zones with undead, lots in the toolkit, and useful in groups and raids if the urge ever strikes you.

Have fun!

nilzark
08-17-2022, 07:04 PM
I have really enjoyed leveling a bard, pretty much no down time solo and great fun in a group. Have not swarmed a single time and have leveled in to high 40's.

Elizondo
08-17-2022, 08:39 PM
I know Necro is probably a solid choice that can solo well to 60, casually. But -- anyone else had similar experience and been spoiled by monk? What do next? Sell my melee twink gear and Roll Necro with a Zlandicar Heart? Pick a tank and stick with it? ...Retire from p99? <3

Necro all the way

You don't need a Zlandicar Heart

cd288
08-18-2022, 02:07 AM
You don’t have to babysit a charmed pet as an enchanter. Just kill both the mob and the pet when they get low by breaking charm. Then repeat. Tears through exp. AFK as needed because you’re not keeping a pet charmed.

Or if you want to raid get the warrior to 60 and then be a badass main tank on high tier raid content.

But yeah if your gauge is “I want something as efficient as the monk” you’re not really going to find that because you have an unrealistic amount of twinking compared to the era we’re in on P99. So nothing will really compare to the monk exp speed that you have

Indecisive
08-20-2022, 05:33 AM
I have to travel to Neriak on Iksar to bank from EC and it sucks.

You can bank in Freeport with the wall trick, I do it all the time. Same with Felwithe, and many other places. Anywhere you can click the banker without LoS, i.e. other side of the wall.

Castle2.0
08-22-2022, 11:38 PM
Try soloing with rogue and poisons and circle strafe backstabbing. Would be a challenge.

Bardp1999
08-23-2022, 02:07 AM
Necro is the best/most fun class

Toxigen
08-23-2022, 10:34 AM
solo enc w/ z heart is just bonkers

you can AFK just fine as an enc btw...leveling you're gonna just be cycling through pets and nuking em dead when they get low anyway....you don't really start weaponizing until you're set up at a proper camp and/or in a duo/group where you're keeping one for a while

in a situation where you wanted to maintain a pet but AFK, just calm the pet, break, root, blur... you're good to invis and AFK

a good example of that is NG in seb - you charm the krup roamer, torch it, slay the 3 bugs, break/blur, go afk in that little safe cubby...1k plat / hour in gems for like 5-7 mins of work every 27 minute spawn cycle

Insaiyan
08-23-2022, 10:46 AM
Iksar SK … longest journey but
Give yourself fungi + zheart + green mist

Sounds cool

zelld52
08-23-2022, 01:20 PM
getting the hang of it charming in Kaesora. it helps having played an enchanter for a bit before necro to get the hang of it. i love FD and think i will stick with necro. Also great to be able to tap HP with stacking leach DoTs

Necro is the best/most fun class