EverQuest is ez mode

[Elfminster]

Here are some ideas to make the game more challenging,


Remove multi-questing.
Remove trading.
Remove floor transfers.
Remove racial perks.
Remove lowbie buffing/ports.
Remove pre-nerf loot.
Remove Bard swarming.
Remove fungi tunic.
Remove level 1 weapon procs.
Remove epic weapons.
Remove Torpor spell.
Remove SoW.
Remove Clarity.
Remove Lich.
Remove Cannibalize.
Remove instant invis items.
Make charm more unreliable.
Increase mana cost of spells.
Increase mob damage.
Increase mob health.
Make mobs smart instead of dumb.
Increase faction requirements.
Hardcore mode only.


I'm not sure how you can fix EQ being an evironment in which you waste your life working for nothing of value.

[Elfminster]

I gave a torch and 2HS weapon to a L8 enchanter pet.

The pet was slashing for 67.

It was soloing Blackburrow.

EZmode.

[magnetaress]

EQ is easy. That it's not a twitch game and has downtime and organizational aspects is its main selling point.

[magnetaress]

EQ is easy. That it's not a twitch game and has downtime and organizational aspects is its main selling point.

And is more sandbox. In modern games like wow if you want to earn gold... you're streamlined into a carefully psychologically crafted gold per hour activity pipeline with a daily or weekly cap. That needs to change.

Also unnerf platfarming through pottery and mail quests and stuff. That's not currently classic and p99 funnels ppl deliberately into raid content and degenerate list camps for making plats.

[mycoolrausch]

I think a hard mode custom server could be cool as a gimmick.

I'd do most of the nerfs you mention except i'd ++XP.

[realsubtle]

EQ feeling too easy for an elite gamer like yourself? Whenever the game seems like you're breezing through, hit yourself as hard as humanly possible in the crotch with a ball peen hammer so you have to struggle through enormous amounts of pain in order to do the tasks that the game requires. Your irreparably bruised, necrotizing genitalia are a small price to pay for those sweet, sweet bragging rights! >:D

[magnetaress]

Realaubtle

[magnetaress]

Frack

[Strifer]

1. Lose 20 Equifax credit score on death. No rezzes.
2. Cancel any other programs or internet devices while playing, you cannot check wikis,atlas,etc.
3. All gear is replaced with Cloth, leather and banded armor. Bronze is endgame.
4. Mana only regenerates briefly after manually drinking water or other consumable drink.
5. Same as above but with food and health.
6. In the event of public griefing of any manner, Rogean instantly Doxxes you.
7. Multiboxing results in bans, and a force-fed push of a paid Nicocado onlyfans subscription.
8. Siren comes back to offer elite hacked gear, like a smoldering brand.
9. Orcs audio is replaced by orgasm noises.
10. Rap Battles for FTE.

HARDCORE.

[Reiwa]

1. /cmd bury OP's corpse upside down at a crossroads

[magnetaress]

1. /cmd bury OP's corpse upside down at a crossroads

U trying to summon demons?

[Reiwa]

U trying to summon demons?

No trying to keep them down!

[Elfminster]

EQ feeling too easy for an elite gamer like yourself? Whenever the game seems like you're breezing through, hit yourself as hard as humanly possible in the crotch with a ball peen hammer so you have to struggle through enormous amounts of pain in order to do the tasks that the game requires. Your irreparably bruised, necrotizing genitalia are a small price to pay for those sweet, sweet bragging rights! >:D

What bragging rights are those?

What you're doing now somebody did 22 years ago and did it better.

[Elfminster]

1. Lose 20 Equifax credit score on death. No rezzes.
2. Cancel any other programs or internet devices while playing, you cannot check wikis,atlas,etc.
3. All gear is replaced with Cloth, leather and banded armor. Bronze is endgame.
4. Mana only regenerates briefly after manually drinking water or other consumable drink.
5. Same as above but with food and health.
6. In the event of public griefing of any manner, Rogean instantly Doxxes you.
7. Multiboxing results in bans, and a force-fed push of a paid Nicocado onlyfans subscription.
8. Siren comes back to offer elite hacked gear, like a smoldering brand.
9. Orcs audio is replaced by orgasm noises.
10. Rap Battles for FTE.

HARDCORE.

Allow ninja looting, training and kill stealing.

[Videri]

EQ feeling too easy for an elite gamer like yourself? Whenever the game seems like you're breezing through, hit yourself as hard as humanly possible in the crotch with a ball peen hammer so you have to struggle through enormous amounts of pain in order to do the tasks that the game requires. Your irreparably bruised, necrotizing genitalia are a small price to pay for those sweet, sweet bragging rights! >:D

+1. OP should follow the helpful instructions above!

[Elfminster]

+1. OP should follow the helpful instructions above!

The reward for playing EQ isn't good enough to warrant violent self harm.

It wasn't good enough 22 years ago and it's certainly not good enough now.

[Elfminster]

My experience of P99 so far...

Random army of moneygrabbing Druids/Wizards say out of character, "Dial A Port porting for plat, 1pp per level"

Pikertrading auctions, "WTS absolutely everything, WTB absolutely everything"

EQtrader shouts, "DON'T TRAIN SLATE TO NORTH RO ZONE"

Infallible Wiki loot values

No /ooc Ding

No /duel

Error 1017

Soandso tells you, "Stop stealing my giants"

Soandso tells you, "You're too high level for this area please leave"

"Your client might have crashed"

No high value long lasting reward for working hard and being stressed out

[Ennewi]

Remove floor transfers.
It's a great example of risk versus reward that helps the economy. Players can either find the more obscure locs to ground transfer or take their chances in highly trafficked areas. Either way, there's always the chance of items poofing or being picked up by someone else.

Remove racial perks.
Add more, but include NPCs.

Remove lowbie buffing/ports.
Add a negative side effect for level disparity. The more disparity, the greater the effect/more often it takes hold. Ex.: Clarity on a newbie causing mild intoxicated vision and sow or haste having a chance to cause spin the bottle once per tick.

The higher in level a zone's NPCs are, the greater likelihood a lower level player gets left behind when porting over, planar zones included. The wizard portal in Nro should be less reliable as well, given that it's mostly buried in sand.

Remove pre-nerf loot.
Boost post-nerf loot instead, so players might just want one of each. Ex.: Change the effect of Circlet of Shadows to IVU or Skin of the Shadow instead of Gather Shadows.

Remove Bard swarming.
Limit to quading.

Remove Clarity.
Grant wizards the clarity-line. Remove clarity from enchanters and instead grant them versions of wandering mind/theft of thought at lower/higher levels, possibly including mana drain over time.

Remove instant invis items.
Add more variety to the different forms of invis, with cloudy potions and low level versions requiring that the player avoid passing over/through otherwise KoS mobs, or risk aggro and the spell fading. This would add more pros to being a small race or at least getting shrunk, and another con to being a large race. A gnome could pass between the legs of Kael giants with regular invis, while an ogre with superior camouflage hugged the walls.

Make charm more unreliable.
When charming, the charmer bind sights on the charmed mob for full duration which also grants them the ability to use attacks/spells but at the cost of accessing their own. An enchanter could choose to focus on DPS or CC, but not both at once unless they charmed an enchanter NPC.

Increase mob health.
If old world mobs had similar HP as Velious mobs, it would move PUGs around, but then loot tables would need adjustments. Dragons having a single scale to loot, or none at all, makes little sense unless the idea is that all of the scales were somehow ruined/destroyed in battle.

Make mobs smart instead of dumb.
Bard NPCs that cast songs including ones unavailable to player characters; rogue NPCs that sneak/hide, poison, and pickpocket; monk NPCs that mend; warrior NPCs that defensive disc and berserker; shadow knight NPCs that shadow step at low health; etc. All melee NPCs should be able to disarm players.

Hardcore mode only.
No more corpse restorations. Hardcore mode opt-in, PK tagged, with titles, nodrop rewards, and normal mode granted at level 60.

[Elfminster]

1. /cmd bury OP's corpse upside down at a crossroads

VMYAEHE2GrM

[Elfminster]

1. /cmd bury OP's corpse upside down at a crossroads

In the Barrens?

[Tunabros]

so basically not everquest

[Kohedron]

Wow look at this not classic guy talking not classic stuff

close thread now

[magnetaress]

Allow ninja looting, training and kill stealing.

yep and let ppl loot other ppls corpse with /consent

server is definately not classic at all

[Elfminster]

Wow look at this not classic guy talking not classic stuff

P99 is emulated classic.

It's like creating a 70's themed fancy dress party in 2022.

It's more of an RP event which the moneygrabbers have taken over.

[Twochain]

-Everyone gets only 1hp
-weapons now have a delay of 500
-spells are turned off
-no discs
-why
-are we talking about
-making a game that already is a gigantic time sink
-harder

[Elfminster]

-why
-are we talking about
-making a game that already is a gigantic time sink
-harder

Because wasting time on nothing is the core design of EQ so anything which speeds up the game up should be removed.

Remove haste items
Remove jboots
Remove pots
Remove damage shields
Remove hotzones
If monks go overweight make them attack 5x slower

[Reiwa]

In the Barrens?

Old Europe thing. Done to keep the departed from returning to cause a ruckus in the ham.

[Ratchet51]

Remove RMT, but for real this time.

[Toxigen]

op is still looking for mankrik's wife

[realsubtle]

"Waste of time, waste of time" Ah, I am fascinated to wonder what important, boastworthy things OP is spending his time on. He must be playing some truly challenging, hardcore video games in between tilling the soil and working on hydroelectric projects.

[Jibartik]

OP described world of warcraft

:confused:

[Patrece]

Based on the previous raid scene disparity, I'd say there's more to it than you all realized?

[SantagarBrax]

Here are some ideas to make the game more challenging,


Remove multi-questing.
Remove trading.
Remove floor transfers.
Remove racial perks.
Remove lowbie buffing/ports.
Remove pre-nerf loot.
Remove Bard swarming.
Remove fungi tunic.
Remove level 1 weapon procs.
Remove epic weapons.
Remove Torpor spell.
Remove SoW.
Remove Clarity.
Remove Lich.
Remove Cannibalize.
Remove instant invis items.
Make charm more unreliable.
Increase mana cost of spells.
Increase mob damage.
Increase mob health.
Make mobs smart instead of dumb.
Increase faction requirements.
Hardcore mode only.


I'm not sure how you can fix EQ being an evironment in which you waste your life working for nothing of value.

You don't have to do any of that...just compete. Literally all you have to do to make it challenging and fun.

[Elfminster]

I am fascinated to wonder what important, boastworthy things OP is spending his time on.

I don't suffer so I can boast to the likes of you that's for sure. That would be a dumb reason for working hard. You're here today gone tomorrow so you're a dead end. Greatness to you is a pair of boots which let you run quicker in a universe that lacks taste, smell, touch and can disappear overnight.

If you love existing in that virtual universe so much you wouldn't be trying to speed it up you would be trying to slow it down to savor every moment.

Instead, you're trying to reach 60 ASAP. You want to be 'great' as quick as possible with minimal effort and the rewards reflect that.

On a side note a Barb Shaman told me that beauty is subjective so there's not just 'conventional' beauty. But I don't see anybody spending their time camping things that make themselves weak do you?

Me: "What you doing today Shaman?"
Shaman: "I'm gonna go camp 40 hours for an item that gives me -50 STR and -50 WIS"
Me: "You're supposed to be strong not weak"
Shaman: "Society taught you that there is only one type of strength but there isn't"
Me: "You're going to be weak though"
Shaman: "I won't have conventional strength but I will still be strong"
Me: "You will be a burden on others"
Shaman: "dat's racist"
[some time later]
Shaman tells you, "Can I loot your corpses because I can't kill anything and can you powerlevel me for free?"

[Arvan]

delete the enchanter and try to solo a rogue to 60

problem of difficulty solved

[Reiwa]

I don't suffer so I can boast to the likes of you that's for sure. That would be a dumb reason for working hard. You're here today gone tomorrow so you're a dead end. Greatness to you is a pair of boots which let you run quicker in a universe that lacks taste, smell, touch and can disappear overnight.

If you love existing in that virtual universe so much you wouldn't be trying to speed it up you would be trying to slow it down to savor every moment.

Instead, you're trying to reach 60 ASAP. You want to be 'great' as quick as possible with minimal effort and the rewards reflect that.

On a side note a Barb Shaman told me that beauty is subjective so there's not just 'conventional' beauty. But I don't see anybody spending their time camping things that make themselves weak do you?

Me: "What you doing today Shaman?"
Shaman: "I'm gonna go camp 40 hours for an item that gives me -50 STR and -50 WIS"
Me: "You're supposed to be strong not weak"
Shaman: "Society taught you that there is only one type of strength but there isn't"
Me: "You're going to be weak though"
Shaman: "I won't have conventional strength but I will still be strong"
Me: "You will be a burden on others"
Shaman: "dat's racist"
[some time later]
Shaman tells you, "Can I loot your corpses because I can't kill anything and can you powerlevel me for free?"

I listen for the whisper of your sweet insanity (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb2W_xkJ2G0)

[Raj]

"Waste of time, waste of time" Ah, I am fascinated to wonder what important, boastworthy things OP is spending his time on. He must be playing some truly challenging, hardcore video games in between tilling the soil and working on hydroelectric projects.

Not exactly "real subtle" about how bitter you are about how much precious time in your life you have wasted on trivial BS LoL :cool:

[Raj]

PS this subforum is quiclly devolving into forum AIDS even worse than off-topic. Obviously none of the "writers" around here and getting paid for their creative writing skills - ever... :cool:

Why does off-topic have wayy more actual ranting and flaming these days than the "Rants and flames?" LoL

Im asking for a friend

[Elfminster]

delete the enchanter and try to solo a rogue to 60

problem of difficulty solved

What's the end game reward?

[Ostros]

Is this thread for real? I hope this is some weird avante garde shitposting, cause lol, lmao.

[Ravager]

This game is paint by numbers.

[Arvan]

What's the end game reward?

EQ is a game about the journey not the destination. Lvl 60 rogues are always in high demand though.