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Arvan
06-18-2022, 03:06 PM
Remember this?

"For whatever reason, their leadership can’t get along and it’s making the game extremely unpleasant for a large portion of the player base and staff. I applaud Galach in trying to mediate between these guilds, but it seems none of these players will ever be happy with whatever compromise is settled on. Alternatively, something is settled on, but we end up right back where we started almost immediately.

Many members (and, more importantly, leaders) of these guilds feel the need to constantly antagonize each other in and out of game instead of simply playing the game. These players have become hyper-sensitive to every negative thing that happens. In turn, the staff gets a flurry of PMs, forum petitions and screenshots of these conversations. This behavior is immature and creates an unhealthy environment for our community as a whole, as well as our staff. The end result of this are sour relationships that will never heal if things don’t change, and we are witnessing more and more escalation.

This is taking far more of our volunteer staff’s time than it has any right to and is impacting our ability to keep up with the petitions for people who legitimately need help. We are down right tired of it. It is time to re-evaluate how you are behaving or leave our server."

So when are they leaving?

Chortles Snortles
06-18-2022, 03:11 PM
https://i.imgur.com/UiMQpNX.gif

Smoofers
06-18-2022, 04:02 PM
Another excellent thread from a guild full of grown men who meow in voice chat

Ripqozko
06-18-2022, 04:09 PM
You can get your response at the next twitch stream, donate bits today

Reiwa
06-18-2022, 04:46 PM
Another excellent thread from a guild full of grown men who meow in voice chat

lol

cd288
06-18-2022, 10:51 PM
Another excellent thread from a guild full of grown men who meow in voice chat

A grown man neckbeard trying to use “grown men” phraseology to imply that something a group is doing is immature. Pretty ironic

Reiwa
06-19-2022, 12:02 AM
https://i.imgur.com/UiMQpNX.gif

bQH4___OHTc

starkind
06-19-2022, 12:45 AM
https://i.imgur.com/UiMQpNX.gif

If Jason Momoa just ate right!

Arvan
06-19-2022, 12:46 AM
Another excellent thread from a guild full of grown men who meow in voice chat

Whats worse a fully grown man child screeching in the UN about god knows what or a guild who enjoys feline pets?

Mblake1981
06-19-2022, 01:01 AM
Whats worse a fully grown man child screeching in the UN about god knows what or a guild who enjoys feline pets?

So not only are the police terrible but so are the people they bust.

Viscian
06-19-2022, 04:43 AM
Whats worse a fully grown man child screeching in the UN about god knows what or a guild who enjoys feline pets?

Stop reading in the UN and stay out of RnF. All your stress will be gone!

Ennewi
06-19-2022, 06:47 AM
Another excellent thread from a guild full of grown men who meow in voice chat

Misinformation. We only meow in /gu and /ooc, but since it seems to irk the guild leadership most associated with training, scripting, and pnp violations, perhaps actual cat meows could be included with gina triggers. Thanks for the idea, guy who also plays with virtual elf figurines.

Zoggren
06-19-2022, 11:43 PM
When will KWSM stop brainwashing hatred into their members ears and allow them to compete more on a weekly basis? Why no competition on a competitive server? You have a strong force of knowledgeable players, and yet, nothing....

Is it because leadership knows it must get its hand dirty and maybe get petitioned to compete, and they need their high horse position so badly, that they neuter their own players to keep it?
Let your players play, Kittens. Put your hand in the dirt and sling some mud. For fucks sake, lets play and not call for fucking perma bans like some total server cucks. For every Beef you ban, two more come emboldened. You think history only brings one Arcler or Detoxx or Furor or whoever else you are asking to be perma banned? Hardly.

I rarely if ever have problems with riot members outside of raids or on alts, hell we both laugh about shit all the time together. We have a hidden comradery forged in the trenches of competition, and both guilds want to extend our hands out to any guild willing to spice things up out there, but especially kittens, who are in the best position to do so.
I hope to see a new kittens out there someday, even if I have to take a train or two.

DMN
06-19-2022, 11:49 PM
https://i.imgur.com/l8kSQ42.jpeg

Croco
06-20-2022, 02:05 AM
Stop reading in the UN and stay out of RnF. All your stress will be gone!

I'll do you one better. Quit p99 entirely because the staff/box owners have allowed the server to devolve into the current dystopian shithole that it's become.

Arvan
06-20-2022, 02:52 AM
When will KWSM stop brainwashing hatred into their members ears and allow them to compete more on a weekly basis? Why no competition on a competitive server? You have a strong force of knowledgeable players, and yet, nothing....

Is it because leadership knows it must get its hand dirty and maybe get petitioned to compete, and they need their high horse position so badly, that they neuter their own players to keep it?
Let your players play, Kittens. Put your hand in the dirt and sling some mud. For fucks sake, lets play and not call for fucking perma bans like some total server cucks. For every Beef you ban, two more come emboldened. You think history only brings one Arcler or Detoxx or Furor or whoever else you are asking to be perma banned? Hardly.

I rarely if ever have problems with riot members outside of raids or on alts, hell we both laugh about shit all the time together. We have a hidden comradery forged in the trenches of competition, and both guilds want to extend our hands out to any guild willing to spice things up out there, but especially kittens, who are in the best position to do so.
I hope to see a new kittens out there someday, even if I have to take a train or two.

Stop training people every week and or causing problems/issues with everyone all the time.

Hope this helps.

Tunabros
06-20-2022, 06:01 AM
if you cant beat them, join them

@arvan

Ennewi
06-20-2022, 07:48 AM
Why no competition on a competitive server? You have a strong force of knowledgeable players, and yet, nothing....

Sir, this is the old beta server, not what most would considered to be the place to be most competitive. BiS means less here than anywhere else and BotB fights happened years ago. Green server boasts shorter timeline with a playerbase having benefitted from less nonclassic features, and Red is more competitive by design.

Is it because leadership knows it must get its hand dirty and maybe get petitioned to compete, and they need their high horse position so badly, that they neuter their own players to keep it?

What exactly are the benefits of this high horse position, given that punishments so far have been pretty lenient? As for raid behavior that has earned rebuke from staff, in the moment it's easy to recognize when history is about to repeat itself and the guild makes every effort to avoid making a bad situation worse, for the sake of their own sanity and staff's. If competition means having to write a novella petition every single time after the fact, while providing irrefutable evidence (which will still be refuted), than no, hard pass. The game is enough of a time sink as it is already.

Let your players play, Kittens. Put your hand in the dirt and sling some mud.

Again, there's been a server for that. Try red.

For every Beef you ban, two more come emboldened. You think history only brings one Arcler or Detoxx or Furor or whoever else you are asking to be perma banned? Hardly.

One person can make a difference.

https://i.imgur.com/GksCHzM.jpg

Getting rid of that one person will benefit the others. Greengrocer ruined EC for a while there, but then that came to an end. Sure, now there's Caros but that's a lazy comparison.

I rarely if ever have problems with riot members outside of raids or on alts, hell we both laugh about shit all the time together. We have a hidden comradery forged in the trenches of competition,

Be sure to include this detail in with your weekly petitions for staff to read.

and both guilds want to extend our hands out to any guild willing to spice things up out there, but especially kittens, who are in the best position to do so.

https://i.imgur.com/mDwQHWB.gif

I hope to see a new kittens out there someday, even if I have to take a train or two.

https://i.imgur.com/8DrUAhT.gif

Viscian
06-20-2022, 10:38 AM
I'll do you one better. Quit p99 entirely because the staff/box owners have allowed the server to devolve into the current dystopian shithole that it's become.

Why should you quit. The staff has given you free pixels every 3 months as well as bag limits. You should be praising them for the welfare. However, just like society. You get free warfare and you’re still ungrateful.

Zoggren
06-20-2022, 10:42 AM
TAKP server does have rotations. Is that your end goal?

Arvan
06-20-2022, 11:22 AM
TAKP server does have rotations. Is that your end goal?

End goal is the people who are causing problems/breaking rules/cheating consistently either re-evaluate how they are playing/treating others or leave the server.

Ripqozko
06-20-2022, 11:56 AM
End goal is the people who are causing problems/breaking rules/cheating consistently either re-evaluate how they are playing/treating others or leave the server.

lol, in 10 years you will still be complaining about same thing. nothings gonna change hope that helps.

Ennewi
06-20-2022, 11:58 AM
The staff has given you free pixels every 3 months as well as bag limits.

All of it is free. No one's paying $9.89 per month for each account.

You should be praising them for the welfare.

Everyone is getting 2-3 quakes per month, which is a lot more than the servers received in the past. A way of showing gratitude would be to decrease the workload for staff, but in your own words...

You get free warfare and you’re still ungrateful.

Keep socking those quakes...

Allishia
06-20-2022, 01:12 PM
Ya I really thought draft + bag limits solved the issue for guilds that don't want to compete so they get to time events around what's best for them

Worry
06-20-2022, 01:24 PM
lol @ people using words like "competition" for Everquest PVE circa-2001.

You can't make this up.

Allishia
06-20-2022, 01:36 PM
lol @ people using words like "competition" for Everquest PVE circa-2001.

You can't make this up.

It's actually really fun, when you see the other person rushing toward the mob and then yellow text goes out and you see your name. Very exciting and it is competitive /nod.

Yelinak is probably my favorite, I only really fte on warrior engages, so yeli, twins, triples, zlandi...those are ones I get to fte sometimes...lot more fun than just doing it uncontested which them ya it's no brainer cause you can have full force for engage..

I like competition engages cause you have to use da idols, wort pots etc and try to stay alive. Really really fun /nod

Zoggren
06-20-2022, 03:20 PM
I think you really exaggerate things Arvan. I'd rather see you in game hustling for that FTE then seeing you jump on your soapbox about how someone/people should be banned. I do appreciate our leadership in that while you're here complaining, they are spending time pushing the meta forward and trying to be more competitive. Riot has been kicking some ass lately, and Kittens could of jumped in and gave us some really bad weeks and savored some really quality victories but all we get is more of this. The spot is open for you, until you let Ex Astra, or other Aegis up and coming guilds snatch it from you.

Ripqozko
06-20-2022, 03:29 PM
I think you really exaggerate things Arvan. I'd rather see you in game hustling for that FTE then seeing you jump on your soapbox about how someone/people should be banned. I do appreciate our leadership in that while you're here complaining, they are spending time pushing the meta forward and trying to be more competitive. Riot has been kicking some ass lately, and Kittens could of jumped in and gave us some really bad weeks and savored some really quality victories but all we get is more of this. The spot is open for you, until you let Ex Astra, or other Aegis up and coming guilds snatch it from you.

competition ended in 2015, you didnt exist then. hope that helps.

SantagarBrax
06-20-2022, 03:40 PM
I tend to agree that this thread and attitude is just being a drama queen for the sake of it. Human interaction has both positive and negative aspects, instead of realizing it for what it is and enjoying the dynamics of it, Arvan would rather strip out the dynamics and beg for a bland one flavor fits all server. (TAKP) If you don't want human interaction, the way Everquest was meant to be played, then go to another server where you can have that.


Ramen's broken record is spinning again, Mr. Irrelevant is trying to stay relevant. Nothing has changed on his end since 2016 besides his RNF post counts increasing exponentionally.

Ripqozko
06-20-2022, 03:47 PM
I tend to agree that this thread and attitude is just being a drama queen for the sake of it. Human interaction has both positive and negative aspects, instead of realizing it for what it is and enjoying the dynamics of it, Arvan would rather strip out the dynamics and beg for a bland one flavor fits all server. (TAKP) If you don't want human interaction, the way Everquest was meant to be played, then go to another server where you can have that.


Ramen's broken record is spinning again, Mr. Irrelevant is trying to stay relevant. Nothing has changed on his end since 2016 besides his RNF post counts increasing exponentionally.

sorry you dont got competition

Ennewi
06-20-2022, 04:13 PM
Human interaction has both positive and negative aspects, instead of realizing it for what it is and enjoying the dynamics of it, Arvan would rather strip out the dynamics and beg for a bland one flavor fits all server. (TAKP) If you don't want human interaction, the way Everquest was meant to be played, then go to another server where you can have that.

Date : 30/03/2000

Topic : Play Nice Policy

The purpose of the Play Nice Policies is to discourage people from being anti-social jerks...

EverQuest is a Multiplayer game, and as such, people
have to interact with other people. The focus of these rules
will be to form some guidelines for these interactions, and
provide the GMs and Guides a course of action in the
event that some people purposely attempt to reduce the
amount of fun that another person can have. You all pay
the same amount of money to play the game, and thus
deserve the same options while here.

Ultimately, the goal is to provide some tools that allow
people to work out situations on their own and not
involve the GM/Guide staff who should be focused on
adding content and dealing with real customer-service
issues. I think that the rules, which will be outlined next
week in the Producer's Letter, will result in more
short-term intervention by the GM/Guide staff, but will
empower people to solve their own problems in the long
run.

-- Abashi, AKA Gordon Wrinn

SantagarBrax
06-20-2022, 07:56 PM
"EverQuest is a Multiplayer game, and as such, people
have to interact with other people. The focus of these rules
will be to form some guidelines for these interactions, and
provide the GMs and Guides a course of action in the
event that some people purposely attempt to reduce the
amount of fun that another person can have. You all pay
the same amount of money to play the game, and thus
deserve the same options while here.

Ultimately, the goal is to provide some tools that allow
people to work out situations on their own and not
involve the GM/Guide staff who should be focused on
adding content and dealing with real customer-service
issues. I think that the rules, which will be outlined next
week in the Producer's Letter, will result in more
short-term intervention by the GM/Guide staff, but will
empower people to solve their own problems in the long
run.

-- Abashi, AKA Gordon Wrinn"

Leadership and players from various guilds do not have to like each other and that's never been the goal of the PNP. P99 has a loose ruleset of addressing problems before they reach staff level and it's utilized in game, then the UN, then at staffs' desk if necessary.

Abashi - "...purposefully attempt to reduce the amount of fun that another person can have". Is someone stalking and harassing you in and out of game in an attempt to reduce yours or anyone else's fun?

Name and shame if so. If not, quit being a drama queen looking to exaggerate and inflame every minor human disagreement or dislike.

Arvan
06-20-2022, 07:58 PM
Ya I really thought draft + bag limits solved the issue for guilds that don't want to compete so they get to time events around what's best for them

I don’t have an issue (besides getting trained almost every time i’m near vanquish - please stop training me) but the staff do have an issue. Time to stop causing issues.

Croco
06-20-2022, 08:44 PM
It's actually really fun, when you see the other person rushing toward the mob and then yellow text goes out and you see your name. Very exciting and it is competitive /nod.

Yelinak is probably my favorite, I only really fte on warrior engages, so yeli, twins, triples, zlandi...those are ones I get to fte sometimes...lot more fun than just doing it uncontested which them ya it's no brainer cause you can have full force for engage..

I like competition engages cause you have to use da idols, wort pots etc and try to stay alive. Really really fun /nod

Yeah it's so fun that you jumped ship and joined the band wagon guild snowballing all the content so you could enjoy the pixel train instead of actually competing lol.

Ennewi
06-20-2022, 09:11 PM
Leadership and players from various guilds do not have to like each other and that's never been the goal of the PNP. P99 has a loose ruleset of addressing problems before they reach staff level and it's utilized in game, then the UN, then at staffs' desk if necessary.

That wasn't being argued.

Abashi - "...purposefully attempt to reduce the amount of fun that another person can have". Is someone stalking and harassing you in and out of game in an attempt to reduce yours or anyone else's fun?

Stalking and harassing don't reduce fun, they eliminate it outright. Did Greengrocer stalk or harass any one person in particular? Afaik, no. But he did purposefully attempt to reduce the fun of numerous players trying to buy and sell in East Commonlands. It isn't black or white, where either someone is violating the rules or they are not; if that was the case, there wouldn't be as many rules/rulings as there are on this server.

If not, quit being a drama queen looking to exaggerate and inflame every minor human disagreement or dislike.

One guild leader threatening physical harm on another. One guild leader using another guild's account info to train them, then lying to staff about it after the fact. The very same guild that was all but proven to be scripting. These are hardly minor human disagreements. And if anyone's being the drama queen looking to exaggerate and inflame, it's...

https://i.imgur.com/Y7wiXKD.jpg

And the number of abusive tells Detoxx has sent numerous players is enough to count as harassment against the raid community. It's become a meme at this point.

cd288
06-20-2022, 10:31 PM
I honestly have no idea how Detoxx is still allowed on this server…

Croco
06-21-2022, 12:20 AM
I honestly have no idea how Detoxx is still allowed on this server…

Naethyn
06-21-2022, 01:05 AM
1. Vulak Ring
2. Ancient Spells
3. Artifacts
4. We're all having fun.

PlsNoBan
06-21-2022, 01:24 AM
I honestly have no idea how Detoxx is still allowed on this server…

PlsNoBan
06-21-2022, 01:25 AM
https://i.imgur.com/1KtDoQt.png

AenorVZ
06-21-2022, 03:54 AM
Sleeper is woke on bofa deez servers. Who gives a shit?

SantagarBrax
06-21-2022, 12:33 PM
I don’t have an issue (besides getting trained almost every time i’m near vanquish - please stop training me) but the staff do have an issue. Time to stop causing issues.

Another gross exaggeration and I'm gonna call straight up bullshit. Stop looking to be a victim at every possible opportunity. 99.9% of trains are unintentional and not malicious. It's called "learning" and we all make mistakes on the path towards understanding how to do things properly on this server and within the ruleset established. This takes time and repetition to know where to start, stop, and the path to follow along with all the dynamics involved throughout the process. It's not easy figuring out all of the various pathing, yet it is rewarding when that "Aha!" moment arrives. That's part of the joy of the game, figuring out the right way to do things.

There's a reason why I /who all when in ToV and if I see Axiom, Kittens, Ex Astra, etc.. I'll send them a /tell asking where they are at so that I don't train them and to inform my guild so that no one else trains them. It just takes a little extra effort and it's not difficult to do so. Trust me when I say that no one is sitting around thinking or saying "how can we train that guild?". It's a ridiculous assumption and position.

I'm just seeing a victimhood and cancel culture mentality here along with a conscious effort to instigate further drama. If some of you would spend half the amount of effort spent on instigating drama and whinging here on the forums and in discord, you may find you actually enjoy the competitive aspect of the game and I guarantee that you will find success.

If any of you have questions or want to learn, I'll be happy to save you a lot of time and trouble (and possibly trains) with a little training. Just shoot me a /tell in game.

How does that sound? My door is always open.

Be well all.


Unchainedfury

cd288
06-21-2022, 12:50 PM
Another gross exaggeration and I'm gonna call straight up bullshit. Stop looking to be a victim at every possible opportunity. 99.9% of trains are unintentional and not malicious. It's called "learning" and we all make mistakes on the path towards understanding how to do things properly on this server and within the ruleset established. This takes time and repetition to know where to start, stop, and the path to follow along with all the dynamics involved throughout the process. It's not easy figuring out all of the various pathing, yet it is rewarding when that "Aha!" moment arrives. That's part of the joy of the game, figuring out the right way to do things.

There's a reason why I /who all when in ToV and if I see Axiom, Kittens, Ex Astra, etc.. I'll send them a /tell asking where they are at so that I don't train them and to inform my guild so that no one else trains them. It just takes a little extra effort and it's not difficult to do so. Trust me when I say that no one is sitting around thinking or saying "how can we train that guild?". It's a ridiculous assumption and position.

I'm just seeing a victimhood and cancel culture mentality here along with a conscious effort to instigate further drama. If some of you would spend half the amount of effort spent on instigating drama and whinging here on the forums and in discord, you may find you actually enjoy the competitive aspect of the game and I guarantee that you will find success.

If any of you have questions or want to learn, I'll be happy to save you a lot of time and trouble (and possibly trains) with a little training. Just shoot me a /tell in game.

How does that sound? My door is always open.

Be well all.


Unchainedfury

Ok that's all very nice of you, but like some P99 players you make the mistake of thinking everyone in your guild operates the same way. There are absolutely people on the other side of the spectrum in vanquish who do the exact opposite (intentional training, etc.). It's nice of you to try to make sure trains and things don't happen, but unfortunately you're somewhat in the minority in your guild (which is the case in any guild that has Furoar and Detoxx in it).

You should stop taking it personally and recognize that when you join a guild that has those two people in it a lot of people in that guild are going to be willing to operate the way they do. As a result, you need to learn to distinguish between criticism of Vanquish and criticism of you personally.

unroot
06-21-2022, 12:56 PM
It's actually really fun, when you see the other person rushing toward the mob and then yellow text goes out and you see your name. Very exciting and it is competitive /nod.

Yelinak is probably my favorite, I only really fte on warrior engages, so yeli, twins, triples, zlandi...those are ones I get to fte sometimes...lot more fun than just doing it uncontested which them ya it's no brainer cause you can have full force for engage..

I like competition engages cause you have to use da idols, wort pots etc and try to stay alive. Really really fun /nod

we don't deserve alli

unroot
06-21-2022, 01:00 PM
Ok that's all very nice of you, but like some P99 players you make the mistake of thinking everyone in your guild operates the same way. There are absolutely people on the other side of the spectrum in vanquish who do the exact opposite (intentional training, etc.). It's nice of you to try to make sure trains and things don't happen, but unfortunately you're somewhat in the minority in your guild (which is the case in any guild that has Furoar and Detoxx in it).

You should stop taking it personally and recognize that when you join a guild that has those two people in it a lot of people in that guild are going to be willing to operate the way they do. As a result, you need to learn to distinguish between criticism of Vanquish and criticism of you personally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uJ51AoDJLo

Zoggren
06-21-2022, 01:11 PM
I ended in 2015, I have no idea what is actually going on. hope that helps.

FIXED

Ripqozko
06-21-2022, 01:27 PM
FIXED

sorry you dont got competition

Ennewi
06-21-2022, 01:51 PM
Another gross exaggeration and I'm gonna call straight up bullshit. Stop looking to be a victim at every possible
opportunity.

If it was an exaggeration, there wouldn't be a long list of petitions in the UN channel.

99.9% of trains are unintentional and not malicious.

https://i.imgur.com/D7eUZUU.jpg

It's called "learning" and we all make mistakes on the path towards understanding how to do things properly on this server
and within the ruleset established. That's part of the joy of the game, figuring out the right way to do things.

[Sat May 21 21:41:05 2022] Unchainedfury says out of character, 'nice KS on lady N kittens.'

So an entire guild that regularly socks ToV was still learning the Lady N encounter?

Trust me when I say that no one is sitting around thinking or saying "how can we train that guild?". It's a ridiculous
assumption and position.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=372736

I'm just seeing a victimhood and cancel culture mentality here along with a conscious effort to instigate further drama. If some of you would spend half the amount of effort spent on instigating drama and whinging here on the forums and in discord, you may find you actually enjoy the competitive aspect of the game and I guarantee that you will find success.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=393481

Behavior

We expect raiding guilds - and especially their leadership - to behave in a way that reflects positively on the Project 1999 community. As some of our most senior players, they should be role models. However, we see these players acting in a way that doesn’t represent the server nor its playerbase. Project 1999 will never be a utopia - nor do we strive to. A certain amount of trash talking and banter is part of the game. However, what we’ve recently seen in screenshots, voice recordings and have witnessed has gone too far. If a player chooses not to represent themselves in a civil manner, please know that any discipline is potentially on the table, including blanket PNP violations, forced removal from a guild leadership role, or even suspension of your guild. Our jurisdiction for enforcing these policies will include any channel managed by the P99 staff, including in-game, p99 forums, p99 discord, or UN discord. While DMs through applications are not directly policed by p99 staff, we are often provided with transcripts and it doesn’t help our opinion of players. If you can’t figure out the difference between harmless banter and malicious attacks, you know where the door is.

If any of you have questions or want to learn, I'll be happy to save you a lot of time and trouble (and possibly trains) with a little training.
Just shoot me a /tell in game.

How does that sound? My door is always open.

Be well all.

Unchainedfury

Again, hard pass.

Allishia
06-21-2022, 03:29 PM
I've definitely trained people by accident, regardless of guild tag lol 😂...also I've goofed where the dragon knocked me back and I wasnt on it technically so had to concede grrrr... people make mistakes, it's not always malicious.

Like zlandi rat train, in my mind I was saying woohoo detox died, now I get to tank the dragon! It didn't click in my brain that riot had the fte till I was almost back to the zlandi pad...opps :)

Naethyn
06-21-2022, 03:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inmvLn0Ypdc

Allishia
06-21-2022, 03:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inmvLn0Ypdc

Lol /nod

Ennewi
06-21-2022, 06:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inmvLn0Ypdc

But after that happy button is pressed and the stupid, hungry, horny little goon in all of us comes to its senses and, more of then than not, comes to the conclusion that something must be done to prevent the bad shit from being known. So the scheming takes place. And that is nefarious.

toadstopher2
06-21-2022, 06:58 PM
But after that happy button is pressed and the stupid, hungry, horny little goon in all of us comes to its senses and, more of then than not, comes to the conclusion that something must be done to prevent the bad shit from being known. So the scheming takes place. And that is nefarious.


??????????? drugs

Arvan
06-22-2022, 02:21 AM
Another gross exaggeration and I'm gonna call straight up bullshit. Stop looking to be a victim at every possible opportunity. 99.9% of trains are unintentional and not malicious. It's called "learning" and we all make mistakes on the path towards understanding how to do things properly on this server and within the ruleset established. This takes time and repetition to know where to start, stop, and the path to follow along with all the dynamics involved throughout the process. It's not easy figuring out all of the various pathing, yet it is rewarding when that "Aha!" moment arrives. That's part of the joy of the game, figuring out the right way to do things.

There's a reason why I /who all when in ToV and if I see Axiom, Kittens, Ex Astra, etc.. I'll send them a /tell asking where they are at so that I don't train them and to inform my guild so that no one else trains them. It just takes a little extra effort and it's not difficult to do so. Trust me when I say that no one is sitting around thinking or saying "how can we train that guild?". It's a ridiculous assumption and position.

I'm just seeing a victimhood and cancel culture mentality here along with a conscious effort to instigate further drama. If some of you would spend half the amount of effort spent on instigating drama and whinging here on the forums and in discord, you may find you actually enjoy the competitive aspect of the game and I guarantee that you will find success.

If any of you have questions or want to learn, I'll be happy to save you a lot of time and trouble (and possibly trains) with a little training. Just shoot me a /tell in game.

How does that sound? My door is always open.

Be well all.


Unchainedfury


It is a verifiable fact that I die to a train caused by vanquish when i am raiding next to them MORE than 50% of the time.

I'm not sure what else to tell ya dude.

(Please stop training me)

Arvan
06-22-2022, 02:36 AM
And don't get it twisted i'm not saying getting trained constantly is the biggest issue overall that's just what effects me personally and gets old after like the 100th time. For instance there's no good sportsmanship or accountability shown by your guild's leadership ever (and historically if you knew what guilds they were in before as well) There's been like a dozen times recently you guys have wiped us and not even helped rez :( To add to it people in your guild (laymembers and leadership alike) are constantly harassing and insulting every other player on the server at every opportunity in and out of game. It's getting kind of old and tired. I get you guys enjoy the whole "we're the server bad guys" thing but please get over it. You're wasting not only everyone else on the server's time but the staff's time by your constant pettiness and utter inability to get along with others.

To summarize: When someone points out a legitimate issue the response is always "I'm good you're bad" instead of "Let's talk about that like grown ups"

I guess I just wish Menden or anybody would have done something more than throw out an empty threat to get people to change their behaviors. WTB gms or at least enforcement of the pnp and raid rules

Ennewi
06-22-2022, 02:40 AM
??????????? drugs

Nope, just quoting directly from the video that was linked and questioning the point that was made within it. Talking cartoon horses philosophizing does seem pretty druggy though.

Naethyn
06-22-2022, 02:45 AM
Weaponizing "you had your shot" after blatantly training the competition by forcing them to go without any good faith to actually vacate the zone is a desperate attempt to keep the status quo in order to win Vulak at all costs - because otherwise they will fall apart and the cracks won't just be cracks anymore. The server has seen it all before and it will never work out in the long run for Vanquish.

Ennewi
06-22-2022, 02:46 AM
99.9% of trains are unintentional and not malicious.

...

Be well all.


Unchainedfury

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB-evJdAZT4

Allishia
06-22-2022, 09:41 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB-evJdAZT4

Lol, he is just a slow lizard, made a wrong turn obviously :p

PlsNoBan
06-22-2022, 10:09 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB-evJdAZT4

Good guy Vanquish never did no wrong

Nibblewitz
06-22-2022, 11:39 AM
These tears are sweeter than the pixels we won.

Allishia
06-22-2022, 11:47 AM
These tears are sweeter than the pixels we won.

Hi Nibble!

Arvan
06-22-2022, 12:09 PM
These tears are sweeter than the pixels we won.

Hey nimwit why'd you leave the UN? Watching you screech and cry every cycle was a big source of comedy for me. When you comin' back?

Nibblewitz
06-22-2022, 12:35 PM
Who keeps screeching to GMs via DMs and mentions? I forget.

misterbonkers
06-22-2022, 01:06 PM
If any of you have questions or want to learn, I'll be happy to save you a lot of time and trouble (and possibly trains) with a little training.

a thinly veiled admission of guilt? :eek:

PlsNoBan
06-22-2022, 01:21 PM
These tears are sweeter than the pixels we won.

You really went downhill after Chest let you off the leash huh?

https://i.imgur.com/jMcfuIs.jpg

Ennewi
06-22-2022, 04:29 PM
Anyone who has to deal with Vanquish leadership on a regular basis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPhke6G-4d4

Using the word "man" loosely.

Zoggren
06-22-2022, 10:35 PM
Thank you again for your profound statements on server culture Ennewi!

Ennewi
06-22-2022, 11:23 PM
Thank you again for your profound statements on server culture Ennewi!

https://i.imgur.com/EwChpQa.jpg

Likewise.

whathappenedhere
06-23-2022, 12:31 AM
Regardless of which side you are, can we all agree that Vanquish is toxic trash, Riot are crybaby bitches, and Kittens are just kinda weirdos for a bunch of 40 year olds?

I think we all agree Detoxx is trash, but it is kinda weird that Riot acts high and mighty while its members send DMs like these to him. I think all the players on P99 are more similar than they are different but the people at the top insist on exaggerating the differences.

Maybe it is time for rotations rather than creating more rules.

https://imgur.com/PLip6kM

https://imgur.com/XEfy5CL

whathappenedhere
06-23-2022, 12:44 AM
Can we all agree Vanquish is toxic trash, Riot are crybaby bitches, and Kittens are kinda weirdos for 40 year olds?

Zoggren
06-23-2022, 12:50 AM
I have to ask, do you even have skin in the game? Also thank you for your brevity. Had you written a few more words, I might of pissed myself and an-heroed.

Ennewi
06-23-2022, 01:48 AM
I have to ask, do you even have skin in the game?

Yes, as does everyone who plays.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Players:Fashion

Also thank you for your brevity.

Brevity is the soul of wit comes from the play Hamlet, written by English poet William Shakespeare around 1603. Polonius says it in act 2, scene 2.

Ennewi
06-23-2022, 03:22 AM
Kittens are just kinda weirdos for a bunch of 40 year olds?

Weird's a good enough description of KWSM. I think if Weird Al Yankovic played EQ, he would have chosen a guild like ours, if for no other reason than the name, over the serious-sounding ones. The tag is meant to remind members to have a sense of self-irony and/or awareness that this is, after all, just a game. A very old game.

I think all the players on P99 are more similar than they are different but the people at the top insist on exaggerating the differences.

The scarcity of targets/rarity of items reveals to what extent players are different (Bladefrenzy versus everyone else who was actually present for the pull and the kill). Who has at least one guardian robe? Who has a willsapper? Etc. It also demonstrates who is for and against the community overall based on their history/contributions. Golem races? For the community. Scripting/Auto-firing? Against the community. Draft week? For the community. RMT? Against the community. Etc.

Duik
06-23-2022, 06:23 AM
??????????? drugs

Horse drugs. Fixed it.

PlsNoBan
06-23-2022, 08:49 AM
can we all agree that Vanquish is toxic trash, Riot are crybaby bitches, and Kittens are just kinda weirdos for a bunch of 40 year olds?

Zoggren
06-23-2022, 10:23 AM
Weird's a good enough description of KWSM. I think if Weird Al Yankovic played EQ, he would have chosen a guild like ours, if for no other reason than the name, over the serious-sounding ones. The tag is meant to remind members to have a sense of self-irony and/or awareness that this is, after all, just a game. A very old game.



The scarcity of targets/rarity of items reveals to what extent players are different (Bladefrenzy versus everyone else who was actually present for the pull and the kill). Who has at least one guardian robe? Who has a willsapper? Etc. It also demonstrates who is for and against the community overall based on their history/contributions. Golem races? For the community. Scripting/Auto-firing? Against the community. Draft week? For the community. RMT? Against the community. Etc.

Kittens = Just an innocent Weird Al guild, not a bunch of cliquish sanctimonious bootlickers that are a feeder guild to Paradigm Shift. Definitely not that.

Zoggren
06-23-2022, 10:28 AM
Kittens = Just an innocent Weird Al guild, not a bunch of cliquish sanctimonious bootlickers that are a feeder guild to Paradigm Shift. Definitely not that.

Disclaimer = Have 99 percent positive interaction with Kittens outside of TOV. Just trying to make R&F Flamey again, and not full of dumb Chortles posts.

Smoofers
06-23-2022, 01:51 PM
I have to ask, do you even have skin in the game?

Irrelevant skin that nobody really takes seriously

Ennewi
06-23-2022, 02:42 PM
Disclaimer = Have 99 percent positive interaction with Kittens outside of TOV. Just trying to make R&F Flamey again, and not full of dumb Chortles posts.

Dude, no disclaimers. Fully commit, like it's roleplaying.

Ennewi
06-23-2022, 03:41 PM
Irrelevant skin that nobody really takes seriously

Everybody has a "skin" in the game, unless it's a MUD.

Originally Posted by Zoggren
I have to ask, do you even have skin in the game?

Originally Posted by Ennewi
Yes, as does everyone who plays.

https://i.imgur.com/E40epVt.gif

Smoofers
06-23-2022, 04:26 PM
Irrelevant skin that nobody really takes seriously

Zoggren
06-23-2022, 08:04 PM
Dude, no disclaimers. Fully commit, like it's roleplaying.

I'll leave that to the yiffing that obviously goes on in Kittens officer chat.

Ennewi
06-23-2022, 10:12 PM
Irrelevant skin that nobody really takes seriously

Serious relevance in elf sim of old.

I'll leave that to the yiffing that obviously goes on in Kittens officer chat.

Insert audio recordings of another guild's leadership verbally abusing/standardizing its members.

Zoggren
06-24-2022, 12:03 AM
Insert audio recordings of another guild's leadership verbally abusing/standardizing its members.

If you want, I can put on a furry suit and verbally abuse you, if that is what you are into, otherwise not sure what you're saying here. I am sex positive though, and if this is what you want, I will help.

Tunabros
06-24-2022, 12:37 AM
iTs NoT aBuSE

Chortles Snortles
06-24-2022, 09:36 AM
https://i.imgur.com/Liqro6i.jpg