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greenspectre
05-29-2022, 03:39 AM
I don't RnF often, but wanted to share a story about Fungi King last night on Green. I joined up with a mixed-guild PUG- 4 Kingdom, 1 FoH, one FoW. The monk that invited me had been at this camp for 10 hours keeping the roster running, with camp at the Zone-Out room. 30 minutes or so into the camp, we see another monk and shaman post up at the Brain room. We call a CC, and this lovely piece happens:

(Apologies for shitty logs)

[Sat May 28 20:04:35 2022] Kaido says out of character, 'CC'
[Sat May 28 20:04:50 2022] Torporinator says out of character, 'The King'
[Sat May 28 20:05:11 2022] Liriel says out of character, 'we've been at king for like 10 hours.. it just spawned the PH'
[Sat May 28 20:05:32 2022] Wraz says out of character, 'brain was wide open, we just walked right in'
[Sat May 28 20:05:39 2022] Liriel says out of character, 'we're at exit pad'
[Sat May 28 20:06:53 2022] Wraz says out of character, 'gotta hold down brain and PH, we just killed brain and are killing PH right now'
[Sat May 28 20:07:04 2022] You say out of character, 'dont have to hold down brain to take the camp'
[Sat May 28 20:07:05 2022] Liriel says out of character, 'You don't need brain room if you're camping at exit'
[Sat May 28 20:07:18 2022] Wraz says out of character, 's'not what the gms said'
[Sat May 28 20:07:33 2022] Astram says out of character, 'why is brain room included?'
[Sat May 28 20:07:45 2022] Wraz says out of character, 'ask Galach bruv, idk'
[Sat May 28 20:07:51 2022] Liriel says out of character, 'You snagged PH after it was up for like 15 seconds that isnt reasonable'
[Sat May 28 20:09:08 2022] Daoko says out of character, 'play nice rule would have you just not steal a camp from other players'


We knew we were in for a fight over this camp. Wraz had tagged the PH while our monk was running back to us for a Levitate, and of course petitions had been sent. There was arguing throughout the zone for the next fifteen minutes, from people at all camps, and the consensus was, of course, that you don't run to another room, and just say that's the only place you're allowed to hold camp from. But we had no idea how long it would take for a GM to respond.

THANKFULLY, we didn't have to wait long.

[Sat May 28 20:24:18 2022] Liriel tells the group, 'Blistig is in zone'

Shortly afterwards, we get this gem--

[Sat May 28 20:25:51 2022] Wraz says out of character, 'Blistig laid down the hammer, she's all yours, boys.... but just know, we'll be watching...'
[Sat May 28 20:25:58 2022] Blistig says out of character, 'no you wont'
[Sat May 28 20:26:00 2022] Liriel says out of character, 'lol'
[Sat May 28 20:26:03 2022] You say out of character, 'LMAO'
[Sat May 28 20:26:04 2022] Wraz says out of character, 'lol'
[Sat May 28 20:26:07 2022] Kaido says out of character, 'Lolol'
[Sat May 28 20:26:08 2022] Vexyan says out of character, 'lol'
[Sat May 28 20:26:17 2022] Daoko says out of character, 'wow'

TL;DR- Don't be a dick and try to make up rules to steal camps especially if they've been actively held for hours. Also, huge shout out to GM's for responding to this petition in a timely manner. And shutting silly stuff like this down. We don't get enough stories about GM's kicking ass in RnF so I figured I'd post this one.

Gustoo
05-29-2022, 05:44 AM
Nasty. Thanks for sharing.

I'd say consider red but whatever.

Naonak
05-29-2022, 09:34 AM
We know who the real loser is. Thanks for posting.

Jimjam
05-29-2022, 10:53 AM
Monopolise camp for 10 hours = good guy.

Malikail
05-29-2022, 11:00 AM
Monopolise camp for 10 hours = good guy.

Bluntly put yes. It was a group when they get an opening you can join. Same rules everybody plays by the bad guy here is pretty d*** clear.

Reiwa
05-29-2022, 12:14 PM
[Sat May 28 20:25:58 2022] Blistig says out of character, 'no you wont'
[Sat May 28 20:26:00 2022] Liriel says out of character, 'lol'

Daloon
05-29-2022, 12:16 PM
What guild are/were they in?

PatChapp
05-29-2022, 12:40 PM
Monopolise camp for 10 hours = good guy.

As if ten hours is a long time to play eq. King requires long camps

greenspectre
05-29-2022, 12:47 PM
What guild are/were they in?

Wraz was Seal Team, anon of course. Torp was Foreign Policy. Though I want to insert the usual disclaimer that one person does not necessarily reflect an entire guild. Some are good, some are bad. This was just the worst I've experienced.

Naethyn
05-29-2022, 12:52 PM
Filed under green.

Ratchet51
05-29-2022, 01:01 PM
That Torporinator guy seems like a real asshole

Zoggren
05-29-2022, 01:49 PM
What we all want to know is who does Torporinator play on blue?

Smoofers
05-29-2022, 03:21 PM
Why did you not simply shout homophobic slurs at them in OOC?

mycoolrausch
05-29-2022, 03:38 PM
It's not considered polite or nice to try to take another groups camp just because you want it.

I offer social etiquette training to anyone on green or blue that needs it. My rates are 10kpp/hour and I will follow you around and tell you what to do in each situation you encounter.

Daloon
05-29-2022, 03:54 PM
Seal Team what are you going to do about this behavior? Thats pretty low class forreal.

greenspectre
05-29-2022, 06:02 PM
Seal Team what are you going to do about this behavior? Thats pretty low class forreal.

Can confirm Wraz still in ST today. Camping fungi, albeit more legitimately.

The issue I really have is if you don't care about other people's opinions of you, why wouldn't you run a play like that? Obviously the worst that happened was a slap on the wrist if he's up and running the next day. Don't get me wrong I'm very happy the staff made him leave, but there's really nothing keeping somebody from TRYING to steal a camp as long as they come up with a BS enough reason. Worst that happens is you're asked to leave and you can pull that move again on somebody else later. Even if it only works 10% of the time, that's still value, right?

It feels like a similar argument that when on a few years ago in the Pro Magic: the Gathering scene as a result of a known cheater getting essentially the maximum amount of warnings per tournament for gameplay violations. Like, if you know the punishment is minimal why wouldn't you run the play, even if it's against the rules?

In this instance, it also frazzled our group. Fungi is a tough camp to hold, and we had members needing EXP too so we were doing regular pulls. During the 15 mins we were arguing in OOC, we almost wiped. It's tough to keep on top of your game when you're angry, worried, etc. So sometimes just showing up and THREATENING to take a camp could be enough to destabilize the players enough that they mess up and die and you win and get their camp.

It's all pretty gross, but food for thought.

Worry
05-29-2022, 06:14 PM
A lot of warm bodies from raid guilds on either server seem to get a sense of entitlement for non-raid zones after a while. I've seen anon'd raid-guild-tagged players act this way over Unrest camps lol.

Ratchet51
05-29-2022, 06:17 PM
Seal Team what are you going to do about this behavior? Thats pretty low class forreal.

They kicked me from the guild... Thanks a lot, dickhead

greenspectre
05-29-2022, 06:27 PM
They kicked me from the guild... Thanks a lot, dickhead

[Sun May 29 17:26:30 2022] Wraz is a member of Seal Team.

Ratchet51
05-29-2022, 06:33 PM
You're a good elf, Lobnor. Welcome to the mud.

System Shock
05-29-2022, 06:37 PM
When The Gm's can keep the rules static, and not change them on a monthly basis based on which one is making the call then you can make retarded treads like this, but until that happens we were told that you need you hold and keep brain room cleared to claim fungi king camp.

azeth
05-29-2022, 06:49 PM
lifelong chaos fan checking in

PatChapp
05-29-2022, 06:50 PM
Can confirm Wraz still in ST today. Camping fungi, albeit more legitimately.

The issue I really have is if you don't care about other people's opinions of you, why wouldn't you run a play like that? Obviously the worst that happened was a slap on the wrist if he's up and running the next day. Don't get me wrong I'm very happy the staff made him leave, but there's really nothing keeping somebody from TRYING to steal a camp as long as they come up with a BS enough reason. Worst that happens is you're asked to leave and you can pull that move again on somebody else later. Even if it only works 10% of the time, that's still value, right?

It feels like a similar argument that when on a few years ago in the Pro Magic: the Gathering scene as a result of a known cheater getting essentially the maximum amount of warnings per tournament for gameplay violations. Like, if you know the punishment is minimal why wouldn't you run the play, even if it's against the rules?

In this instance, it also frazzled our group. Fungi is a tough camp to hold, and we had members needing EXP too so we were doing regular pulls. During the 15 mins we were arguing in OOC, we almost wiped. It's tough to keep on top of your game when you're angry, worried, etc. So sometimes just showing up and THREATENING to take a camp could be enough to destabilize the players enough that they mess up and die and you win and get their camp.

It's all pretty gross, but food for thought.
They probably figured you would just leave rather than deal with the hassle.

greenspectre
05-29-2022, 08:29 PM
They probably figured you would just leave rather than deal with the hassle.

This is another problem with there being such a light punishment on this kinda thing. There is just *too much to gain* if you're trying to steal someone's camp this way. I think one of my groupmates DID initially suggest "screw it it's not worth it". Yet another way someone trying to muscle in can end up winning.

When The Gm's can keep the rules static, and not change them on a monthly basis based on which one is making the call then you can make retarded treads like this, but until that happens we were told that you need you hold and keep brain room cleared to claim fungi king camp.

If this is Wraz or Torp, you're focusing so much on one supposed GM interaction and not giving any context, that this kind of statement is silly. If you see a group actively clearing mobs at the exit room, and don't call a CC (yes understanding its a courtesy not a requirement) and just tag the PH after it resets from a monk in our camp ACTIVELY trying to pull him, then you are ignoring the whole spirit of the rules themselves.

EVEN IF that was the rule that you have to hold brain room or it doesn't matter if you've been clearing PH's, then your choice to take the brain room and start muscling in on somebody's camp is the problem here. Instead of being like "Hey I see you guys are pulling King, did you know you're required to hold the brain room to claim camp?" you instead were looking for a way to spin the rule to your advantage.

Raiding is supposed to be competitive by nature on this server, but grouping is not. This wasn't a contested King Tormax FTE, this was a group posted up at the Fungi King in Sebilis on a 1.25 xp weekend. Know the difference and act accordingly, or go play one of the many fine single-player tuned custom servers here if you don't like playing nice with others, please. I recommend Imperium, Sturm does great work over there and you can get a Fungi Tunic within a couple hours of starting, all while griefing exactly zero other players.

Ratchet51
05-29-2022, 08:32 PM
You think Fungi is an EXP camp? Bless your heart

greenspectre
05-29-2022, 08:35 PM
You think Fungi is an EXP camp? Bless your heart

We were AT fungi on a 1.25xp weekend, doesn't mean we were there for XP, sillykins. I was playing my 60 shaman, and everyone knows guys who camp fungi only want one thing and it's fucking disgusting (because it's covered in fungus).

Ratchet51
05-29-2022, 08:40 PM
We were AT fungi on a 1.25xp weekend, doesn't mean we were there for XP, sillykins. I was playing my 60 shaman, and everyone knows guys who camp fungi only want one thing and it's fucking disgusting (because it's covered in fungus).

You're so wholesome... I can't even be mad at you.

greenspectre
05-29-2022, 08:51 PM
You're so wholesome... I can't even be mad at you.

Awww thanks <3 Figured if I'm gonna actually post on RnF I'm going to bring a different energy. This place is stale otherwise, wouldn't you agree?

Cecily
05-29-2022, 09:32 PM
I don't understand how you had the camp if brain was wide open.

CancerMage
05-29-2022, 09:49 PM
good thing a GM was there to get ur camp back you lost.

Blondii
05-29-2022, 09:53 PM
Y'all can't be too mad at Patchet. Remember when he was advertising travel-anywhere free rez's for the server?

CancerMage
05-29-2022, 10:20 PM
Y'all can't be too mad at Patchet. Remember when he was advertising travel-anywhere free rez's for the server?

now hes just out here following the server rules.

dylanmilleson
05-29-2022, 11:26 PM
Wraz had tagged the PH while our monk was running back to us for a Levitate

Sorry Ductale doesn't have Pegasus Feather Cloak.

Ratchet51
05-29-2022, 11:30 PM
I do what's best for P99, and that will never change. You can always count on me.

DMN
05-29-2022, 11:50 PM
Y'all remember that one guy who came in here gloating about getting someone in hot water for stealing their EC ork camp and then the GM invovled came in an reversed their decison?

Ratchet51
05-30-2022, 12:20 AM
Hope that guy is doing well. He had the purest of intentions.

sedrie.bellamie
05-30-2022, 01:53 AM
Wraz was Seal Team, anon of course. Torp was Foreign Policy. Though I want to insert the usual disclaimer that one person does not necessarily reflect an entire guild. Some are good, some are bad. This was just the worst I've experienced.

crazy, people in different guilds group together?


In this instance, it also frazzled our group. Fungi is a tough camp to hold, and we had members needing EXP too so we were doing regular pulls. During the 15 mins we were arguing in OOC, we almost wiped. It's tough to keep on top of your game when you're angry, worried, etc. So sometimes just showing up and THREATENING to take a camp could be enough to destabilize the players enough that they mess up and die and you win and get their camp.

It's all pretty gross, but food for thought.

fungi is a trios camp

Naonak
05-30-2022, 02:10 AM
Can we please confirm. As this is the real question in this thread.

Kingdom shitter's put their alt's in FP for when green give out bag limits/drafts/server rotations?

Imagine having to 6 man King Camp. Pulling the camp badly and leaving PH's for a silly amount of time, a ST monk has the chance of tagging it, pulling it clean as shit to camp and killing it.

It's a duo camp on blue, trio at WORST.

I/WE on blue still wish you all who couldn't make it on BLUE, the best in your P99 endeavors.

Ratchet, Felwithe's Champion, will be missed on BLUE as always. :D

wagorf
05-30-2022, 03:02 AM
so are they kicked from guild or no?

cuz if not, whatever guild that is is fuckin lame

Samoht
05-30-2022, 03:24 AM
I do what's best for P99, and that will never change. You can always count on me.

Please come back to blue so you can follow me around and give me Divine Strength.

zillabunny
05-30-2022, 03:31 AM
Monopolise camp for 10 hours = good guy.

Back in my day we sat for 26 hours at drenzle clicking an afk check every 7-11 minutes

Ratchet51
05-30-2022, 04:44 AM
so are they kicked from guild or no?

cuz if not, whatever guild that is is fuckin lame

Torporinator has been removed from Foreign Policy.

Domo
05-30-2022, 05:57 AM
this thread reads like some people dont want justice but people suffer.

Wharfrat
05-30-2022, 07:48 AM
this thread reads like some people dont want justice but people suffer.

Like every thread here, discord , and UN, it doesnt matter where, it's always the same.

Low character people playing a simple game that anyone can master thinking they are better then the rest

We can all act like this you know.

Be better!

And as far as the peanut gallery .. not sure what's worse tbh!

Why not hold the guild accountable for the behavior of it's players?

Seems to me that would stop alot of the bullshit!

OuterChimp
05-30-2022, 04:16 PM
Blistig is not a GM on Teal.

loramin
05-30-2022, 04:31 PM
When The Gm's can keep the rules static, and not change them on a monthly basis based on which one is making the call then you can make retarded treads like this, but until that happens we were told that you need you hold and keep brain room cleared to claim fungi king camp.

The rules are very clearly outlined in the Play Nice Policies, and haven't changed in years.

The specific details of rulings on camps are detailed here, https://wiki.project1999.com/Camp%20Rules ... and they haven't changed since (checks history (https://wiki.project1999.com/index.php?title=Camp_Rules&action=history)) ... June of 2020.

Yeah, those GMs sure do change the rules a lot :rolleyes:

Scalem
05-30-2022, 04:40 PM
The rules are very clearly outlined in the Play Nice Policies, and haven't changed in years.

The specific details of rulings on camps are detailed here, https://wiki.project1999.com/Camp%20Rules ... and they haven't changed since (checks history (https://wiki.project1999.com/index.php?title=Camp_Rules&action=history)) ... June of 2020.

Yeah, those GMs sure do change the rules a lot :rolleyes:

Tell me you know nothing about the current state of the game without telling me you know nothing about the game.

loramin
05-30-2022, 04:46 PM
The specific details of rulings on camps are detailed here, https://wiki.project1999.com/Camp%20Rules ... and they haven't changed since (checks history (https://wiki.project1999.com/index.php?title=Camp_Rules&action=history)) ... June of 2020.

Actually I just invalidated myself; that page now has an update date of today ... because I just added this thread to the page, to make it 100% clear for future readers :D

Tell me you know nothing about the current state of the game without telling me you know nothing about the game.

You clearly have no idea who you are talking to. I've been playing here for nearly a decade, have multiple 60s on Blue, and ATM I'm getting safety XP on my (very active) 60 Green toon.

Ooloo
05-30-2022, 05:36 PM
Legit question: Those two giants that everyone kills in frontier mountains would be considered outdoor, and thus two different camps right?

mycoolrausch
05-30-2022, 06:04 PM
A GM definitely went to a group at exit room and told them they need to move to brain room.

Nobody would just, say something that never happened

That happened 4 sho

cd288
05-30-2022, 07:12 PM
Can confirm Wraz still in ST today. Camping fungi, albeit more legitimately.

The issue I really have is if you don't care about other people's opinions of you, why wouldn't you run a play like that? Obviously the worst that happened was a slap on the wrist if he's up and running the next day. Don't get me wrong I'm very happy the staff made him leave, but there's really nothing keeping somebody from TRYING to steal a camp as long as they come up with a BS enough reason. Worst that happens is you're asked to leave and you can pull that move again on somebody else later. Even if it only works 10% of the time, that's still value, right?

It feels like a similar argument that when on a few years ago in the Pro Magic: the Gathering scene as a result of a known cheater getting essentially the maximum amount of warnings per tournament for gameplay violations. Like, if you know the punishment is minimal why wouldn't you run the play, even if it's against the rules?

In this instance, it also frazzled our group. Fungi is a tough camp to hold, and we had members needing EXP too so we were doing regular pulls. During the 15 mins we were arguing in OOC, we almost wiped. It's tough to keep on top of your game when you're angry, worried, etc. So sometimes just showing up and THREATENING to take a camp could be enough to destabilize the players enough that they mess up and die and you win and get their camp.

It's all pretty gross, but food for thought.

I mean no if they did the same shit multiple times they’d get suspended or banned

cd288
05-30-2022, 07:15 PM
Can we please confirm. As this is the real question in this thread.

Kingdom shitter's put their alt's in FP for when green give out bag limits/drafts/server rotations?

Imagine having to 6 man King Camp. Pulling the camp badly and leaving PH's for a silly amount of time, a ST monk has the chance of tagging it, pulling it clean as shit to camp and killing it.

It's a duo camp on blue, trio at WORST.

I/WE on blue still wish you all who couldn't make it on BLUE, the best in your P99 endeavors.

Ratchet, Felwithe's Champion, will be missed on BLUE as always. :D

Wow dude it’s almost like some people on P99 enjoy socially playing with people and so are totally fine with having a full group instead of a duo or trio. You’re a loser

cd288
05-30-2022, 07:17 PM
When The Gm's can keep the rules static, and not change them on a monthly basis based on which one is making the call then you can make retarded treads like this, but until that happens we were told that you need you hold and keep brain room cleared to claim fungi king camp.

Lol stfu that’s never happened, they have never said you have to hold the brain room

DMN
05-30-2022, 07:29 PM
Lol stfu that’s never happened, they have never said you have to hold the brain room

what makes you so sure, particularly given someone in rats and lames as well as in the reported incident believe they did?

CancerMage
05-30-2022, 08:15 PM
what this boils down 2 is that another guilds group couldnt get it done, another group did. how'd they get ur fungi PH if u were camping it. HOW.

Mblake1981
05-30-2022, 08:29 PM
Wraz was Seal Team, anon of course. Torp was Foreign Policy. Though I want to insert the usual disclaimer that one person does not necessarily reflect an entire guild. Some are good, some are bad. This was just the worst I've experienced.

They were not sending their best.

greenspectre
05-30-2022, 08:30 PM
what this boils down 2 is that another guilds group couldnt get it done, another group did. how'd they get ur fungi PH if u were camping it. HOW.

Liriel's levitate wore off mid-pull, she had to come back real quick for a re-up and Wraz snagged the PH as soon as it reset. We were also in the middle of a fight when the king PH popped, for what that's worth.

Korsk
05-30-2022, 08:49 PM
Liriel's levitate wore off mid-pull, she had to come back real quick for a re-up and Wraz snagged the PH as soon as it reset. We were also in the middle of a fight when the king PH popped, for what that's worth.

legendary

Omegalul
05-30-2022, 09:04 PM
WTB Fungi tunic 65k PST Namule in game

CancerMage
05-30-2022, 09:57 PM
Liriel's levitate wore off mid-pull, she had to come back real quick for a re-up and Wraz snagged the PH as soon as it reset. We were also in the middle of a fight when the king PH popped, for what that's worth.

imagine not being able to visualize in your head how long your PH spawn is, and not clicking levitate before every important pull.

explains alot. but again, my point still stands.... somehow you feel these are valid arguments to why you should be given the camp even though you lost it.

Ratchet51
05-30-2022, 10:09 PM
WTB Fungi tunic 65k PST Namule in game

Anybody else need one?

mycoolrausch
05-30-2022, 10:19 PM
imagine not being able to visualize in your head how long your PH spawn is, and not clicking levitate before every important pull.

explains alot. but again, my point still stands.... somehow you feel these are valid arguments to why you should be given the camp even though you lost it.

You lose a camp because a PH sits up for an extra minute or two while you're clearing mobs associated with the camp?

At any rate, I'm sure the brain room interlopers didn't take advantage of any of the pats being down between brain and PH when sniping the pull.

sedrie.bellamie
05-30-2022, 10:27 PM
Anybody else need one?

did this dude sell a fungi tunic in a RNF thread?

legendary

sounds like all fungi tunics flow through this Wraz guy

greenspectre
05-30-2022, 10:32 PM
imagine not being able to visualize in your head how long your PH spawn is, and not clicking levitate before every important pull.

explains alot. but again, my point still stands.... somehow you feel these are valid arguments to why you should be given the camp even though you lost it.

I mean, we as the players decide how we want to act towards each other. I get that this is RnF, but do we want a community where you must hold a camp perfectly and pull your PH within 30 seconds of it popping or risk losing your camp to somebody waiting to steal it? A community that doesn't allow for simple human error or, as the PnP policy for camping states "a reasonable amount of time?"

It's not like it was a wipe situation, that's totally understandable- you wipe and somebody else is set up and ready, yeah you're gonna lose your camp. This is why GM's have had to specify "a reasonable amount of time," which has to be interpreted individually in each case, because there's a difference between stalling on a pull purposefully and normal EQ chaos that happens at a camp. But when you instead want to be like "get gud, you lost the camp because there was any opportunity at all for someone to tag the PH" you're actually part of the problem, not the solution.

CancerMage
05-30-2022, 10:33 PM
You lose a camp because a PH sits up for an extra minute or two while you're clearing mobs associated with the camp?

At any rate, I'm sure the brain room interlopers didn't take advantage of any of the pats being down between brain and PH when sniping the pull.

you must pull it within a reasonable time.

greenspectre
05-30-2022, 10:36 PM
you must pull it within a reasonable time.

And in this case, a GM decided "As soon as the PH resets from the monk actively trying to pull it" as not an OK amount of time for another person to snag it and claim the camp. As I would imagine anybody with a sense of common decency would.

sedrie.bellamie
05-30-2022, 10:44 PM
And in this case, a GM decided "As soon as the PH resets from the monk actively trying to pull it" as not an OK amount of time for another person to snag it and claim the camp. As I would imagine anybody with a sense of common decency would.

if you cannot pull the mob then that is not reasonable

cd288
05-31-2022, 12:03 AM
if you cannot pull the mob then that is not reasonable

You’re an idiot

greenspectre
05-31-2022, 12:20 AM
if you cannot pull the mob then that is not reasonable

This statement is true but does not apply in this situation. Needing to rebuff or having to try a pull, especially one as difficult as Fungi King, more than once does not mean "you cannot pull the mob". There's a major difference between having to try more than once on a pull and intentionally stalling, which is what the "reasonable amount of time" rule is trying to prevent.

This isn't a competitive raid FTE, where one failed pull SHOULD allow another force to take the mob, this is grouping. The rules are the way they are because grouping and holding a camp are supposed to work differently and be less competitive than raiding, or at least that is what the staff seems to be trying to get across.

Folks that want to MAKE things more competitive by trying to lawyerquest folks out of their camps by twisting the rules against their own spirit, like Wraz here, are the reasons we make posts like this.

Bardp1999
05-31-2022, 12:56 AM
This is the most profitable camp in the game, you are acting like you were in Black Burrow or some shit

Scalem
05-31-2022, 01:15 AM
Actually I just invalidated myself; that page now has an update date of today ... because I just added this thread to the page, to make it 100% clear for future readers :D



You clearly have no idea who you are talking to. I've been playing here for nearly a decade, have multiple 60s on Blue, and ATM I'm getting safety XP on my (very active) 60 Green toon.

Then you should know the wiki is irrelevant for rules. The GMs have said if it’s not a forum post or ruling in the UN it’s not law. Sure the wiki is nice for a quick reference but that’s it.

Arvan
05-31-2022, 02:15 AM
Imagine green

Ratchet51
05-31-2022, 02:32 AM
This is the most profitable camp in the game, you are acting like you were in Black Burrow or some shit

You're a good elf, I don't tell you that enough

Naonak
05-31-2022, 02:39 AM
Why so serious?

This isn't the matrix.

23 year old elf sim.

Seems to me like they got the reaction they were looking for. You sir, bit hard and took the hook/line and sinker.

Happy days.

Toxigen
05-31-2022, 04:41 AM
imagine camping king with 6 players in 2022

DMN
05-31-2022, 06:06 AM
are we now gatekeeping a 50 year old elf sim?


yikes.

Pint
05-31-2022, 09:33 AM
Camp dispute with a happy ending, get this this out of here

lullzy
05-31-2022, 10:21 AM
whenever i am in ST discord and ratchet starts talking I log out and leave raid because he is so autistic

unsunghero
05-31-2022, 01:50 PM
The monk that invited me had been at this camp for 10 hours keeping the roster running

Korsk
05-31-2022, 02:47 PM
whenever i am in ST discord and ratchet starts talking I log out and leave raid because he is so autistic

I send him a tell to shut the fuck up every time he opens his mouth. Than he sends me something cute and my heart melts.

Worry
05-31-2022, 03:42 PM
I genuinely feel bad for this wraz fellow.

CancerMage
05-31-2022, 07:14 PM
This statement is true but does not apply in this situation. Needing to rebuff or having to try a pull, especially one as difficult as Fungi King, more than once does not mean "you cannot pull the mob". There's a major difference between having to try more than once on a pull and intentionally stalling, which is what the "reasonable amount of time" rule is trying to prevent.

This isn't a competitive raid FTE, where one failed pull SHOULD allow another force to take the mob, this is grouping. The rules are the way they are because grouping and holding a camp are supposed to work differently and be less competitive than raiding, or at least that is what the staff seems to be trying to get across.

Folks that want to MAKE things more competitive by trying to lawyerquest folks out of their camps by twisting the rules against their own spirit, like Wraz here, are the reasons we make posts like this.

when i chain wipe at fungi king 12 times i hope the GM's come and bail me out for still having reasonable time.

Wharfrat
05-31-2022, 07:30 PM
PNP

Wharfrat
05-31-2022, 07:31 PM
ENFORCE IT

Local
05-31-2022, 07:43 PM
when i chain wipe at fungi king 12 times i hope the GM's come and bail me out for still having reasonable time.

I like that you acknowledge you'll chain wipe at fungi king 12 times.

CancerMage
05-31-2022, 09:54 PM
I like that you acknowledge you'll chain wipe at fungi king 12 times.

i mean, it happens. duoing it absolutely.

Tethler
06-01-2022, 12:58 AM
imagine not being able to visualize in your head how long your PH spawn is, and not clicking levitate before every important pull.

explains alot. but again, my point still stands.... somehow you feel these are valid arguments to why you should be given the camp even though you lost it.

Name checks out

cd288
06-02-2022, 03:28 PM
I like that you acknowledge you'll chain wipe at fungi king 12 times.

Feel free to ignore Ramal. He's an idiot

Chortles Snortles
06-02-2022, 03:53 PM
boxing king def challenging, right Phil
(lol)

Korsk
06-02-2022, 06:02 PM
leave phil alone

Qyxxl
06-02-2022, 07:36 PM
Anybody else need one?



Ya but on blue

Dollar
06-03-2022, 08:43 AM
Lol it’s like we get the entire squadron of the two little ahole’s friends defending them by making childish remarks at op for trying to play everquest. You guys are legit trash.

Tethler
06-03-2022, 10:03 PM
Feel free to ignore Ramal. He's an idiot

Wait, CancerMage is Ramal? How did I not know this

Kohedron
06-03-2022, 11:39 PM
green working as intended. I don't see the problem here.

Ratchet51
06-04-2022, 04:04 AM
Lol it’s like we get the entire squadron of the two little ahole’s friends defending them by making childish remarks at op for trying to play everquest. You guys are legit trash.

Look at me having friends and shit... Wild times we're living in.

Dollar
06-04-2022, 01:51 PM
Shitbirds of same feather stick together?

CancerMage
06-04-2022, 08:25 PM
Shitbirds of same feather stick together?

hell ya brother

Chortles Snortles
06-04-2022, 08:36 PM
https://i.imgur.com/DFcUFIn.gif

PabloEdvardo
06-07-2022, 08:54 PM
typical behavior when Patchet plays Wraz... zero regard for others, all he cares about is getting fungi tunics

Torpinator was probably innocent, Patchet will take anyone he's with and force them to bend rules just to get what he wants

I'm posting this behind three proxies because if Patchet ever finds out I'm talking shit, I'll be sleeping 6 feet under the fungus king

Topgunben
06-11-2022, 03:12 PM
Monopolise camp for 10 hours = good guy.

Terrok
06-11-2022, 04:24 PM
What guild are/were they in?

Vanq looking for new recruits?