At least there's some good news

[Rager and Quitter]

Looks like a new TLP is releasing soon. It will be fun for at least 9-12 months. By then, hopefully Red99 will have been shut down permanently. How long are devs going to let those homeless losers squat in there?

[starkind]

agreed if u into nostalgia highly recommend

[starkind]

not about red tho, just roll every server into red and launch red.2.0

only have pvp servers sign off on that as the raid rules gg

[Bardp1999]

Just play WoW if you want a modern MMORPG, the TLP servers suck shit through a straw.

Praying for OP to get back on meds

[PlsNoBan]

Just play WoW if you want a modern MMORPG, the TLP servers suck shit through a straw.

Praying for OP to get back on meds

Sorry TLP's are significantly more popular than any emu (including this one). Vocal minority opinions are not facts.

Hope this helps

[Arvan]

So lots of people have bad taste? That’s nothing new

[starkind]

wow is better than retail EQ

they really should have reskinned EQ 1 and launched it as EQ 3

they could have had like stuff like player housing and slightly cooler tradeskilling and resource gathering (not like the crap in EQ 2 tho) (more like wows) and it would ahve been a huuge successs

SoE is happy with the cash shop tho

[starkind]

that said retail EQ isn't that bad. and better than the insanity asylum p99 raiding is

[Bardp1999]

Sorry TLP's are significantly more popular than any emu (including this one). Vocal minority opinions are not facts.

Hope this helps

P99 been around13 years, Every TLP is dead within 12 months. Sorry live EQ is hot garbage and you are invested in gimmick servers bound for isolation

[Gustoo]

Yeah pretty hilarious to say TLP is better than 13 year old project 1999 server. I'd take blue over any live server so would all 1200 or whatever players here.

So yeah it will always be a niche...people who give a damn about the actual old game but for anyone who likes "actual" EQ , the alternatives are a joke.

A lot of people are cool scooting through old world with godmode enabled for the nostalgia feels but not the nostalgia experience.

I myself want to be slain by pixies in gfay like a true lowly elf.

[PlsNoBan]

P99 been around13 years, Every TLP is dead within 12 months. Sorry live EQ is hot garbage and you are invested in gimmick servers bound for isolation

Oh ya my bad. Playing same server on same content with no wipes/resets for 10+ years is way better and not stale at all. I forgot :(

[Bardp1999]

PLay whatever you like, just dont tell people TLPs are a positive EQ experience. I played on Ragefire or Lockjaw or one of those two and it was fun....for like 2 months max before there was no reason to log in besides "raiding" instanced bull shit content with my guild to get gear that meant nothing.

Instancing would immediately make P99 population fall to sub 500 within 3 months. I make fun of the "competition" on P99 regularly, but its better than the loot piñata (by a lot)

[MrSparkle001]

PLay whatever you like, just dont tell people TLPs are a positive EQ experience. I played on Ragefire or Lockjaw or one of those two and it was fun....for like 2 months max before there was no reason to log in besides "raiding" instanced bull shit content with my guild to get gear that meant nothing.

Instancing would immediately make P99 population fall to sub 500 within 3 months. I make fun of the "competition" on P99 regularly, but its better than the loot piñata (by a lot)

Gear means nothing whether or not there's instancing, unless you think the lack of instancing lets people show off their gear like special snowflakes that spend too much time playing the game.

Instancing is the best thing to happen to MMORPGs, followed by no corpse runs. Just because classic Everquest did it doesn't make it best. It's in fact the opposite: a lot of what Everquest did taught future MMORPG developers what not to do.

[Vaildez]

Gear means nothing whether or not there's instancing, unless you think the lack of instancing lets people show off their gear like special snowflakes that spend too much time playing the game.

, followed by no corpse runs. Just because classic Everquest did it doesn't make it best. It's in fact the opposite: a lot of what Everquest did taught future MMORPG developers what not to do.

Instancing is the best thing to happen to MMORPGs

This may be true but it also is what makes classic EQ more interesting... Some people like the competition and content not being accessible to everyone.

[Rager and Quitter]

Of course the pseudo-elitist purists hate on instancing because they are the lifeless shut-ins that play EQ like 12 hours a day for the real classic feel, but the normal, well-adjusted adults that want to experience old nostalgia love the TLP teddy-bear instancing because it allows you to experience it quickly and then move onto something else. I play EQ for a handful of weeks, mostly fucking around on alts in CB or MM, then after about a year or two and think "man EQ used to be fun" and do it again. What adult has that kind of free time to put into a video game? Classic EQ was soul crushingly demanding of your time. Normal people can't invest like that as adults.

[Danth]

Lack of time is one of the reasons I like P99: If it takes me 5 years to build up a character, I can get away with that here because the game's a static era and doesn't outrun my limited efforts at character advancement.

[Danth]

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Mind you, I don't think this game's perfect by any stretch, and I regard instancing as a tool which has its place. I consider EQ more a case of, "take the good with the bad." There's enough good I like it, but it doesn't blind me to its faults, either.

[Rang]

I really don’t understand how they justify charging 15 bucks a month. I refuse to pay that much for a game released in 1999.

[Grumph]

I really don’t understand how they justify charging 15 bucks a month. I refuse to pay that much for a game released in 1999.

$15 today though is like $4.25 back in 1999 though.

[Mblake1981]

Oh ya my bad. Playing same server on same content with no wipes/resets for 10+ years is way better and not stale at all. I forgot :(

It's why you are talking to this group instead of 12 month PUGs. Yes, it is better.

[Vaildez]

Of course the pseudo-elitist purists hate on instancing because they are the lifeless shut-ins that play EQ like 12 hours a day for the real classic feel, but the normal, well-adjusted adults that want to experience old nostalgia love the TLP teddy-bear instancing because it allows you to experience it quickly and then move onto something else. I play EQ for a handful of weeks, mostly fucking around on alts in CB or MM, then after about a year or two and think "man EQ used to be fun" and do it again. What adult has that kind of free time to put into a video game? Classic EQ was soul crushingly demanding of your time. Normal people can't invest like that as adults.

I don't fit in the hardcore crowd but there is a time and a place for instancing. I like it in modern MMO's but it's also nice to have that nostalgic competition for zones. I have tried many times to get back into Live EQ servers and it never lasts long. I would much rather playing on P99.

[Weekapaug]

If you go in with the understanding that you are going to be playing with inflated everything and revamps and that they are simply content locked servers, these TLPs are pretty fun for a while. I'm probably biased about that because I just have a thing for fresh starts on new servers and did the first 3 rounds of these things years ago.

Problem for me always is that these servers are massive Krono farms for the absolute dregs of society and it makes doing a lot of what makes EQ fun really annoying at best and impossible at worst. Sad to see really.

[PlsNoBan]

It's why you are talking to this group instead of 12 month PUGs. Yes, it is better.

I'm here cause these forums are infinitely more entertaining than the main EQ forums. Mostly cause of all the drama that unfolds due to all the asinine behavior that results from lack of instances at the endgame. What's more entertaining A: a forum full of people playing a game they enjoy with mostly nothing major to complain about and no competitive pvp or pve that result in drama or B: a forum full of overgrown man children flinging shit at each other 24/7/365 while they screenshare track 16hr window variance raid mobs and practice "racing" for pixel dragons (and in some cases abuse scripts to "win") on a server that has been doing the same exact content every week for 10+ years and acting like it's still important?

It's quite obvious which forum is going to be a more entertaining trainwreck to stare at. Has nothing to do with which version of the game is more fun/less cancerous to play on. Good try tho.

[Bardp1999]

https://i.imgur.com/RAS719I.jpg

[greenspectre]

Lack of time is one of the reasons I like P99: If it takes me 5 years to build up a character, I can get away with that here because the game's a static era and doesn't outrun my limited efforts at character advancement.

This is where I stand on the subject, too. I was 50 and doing planes when green was in classic, but couldn't play as much during Kunark so I was 56 when Velious hit. I then finished my grind at my own pace and slowly put my VP key together, got my Torpor and the whole 9 yards and now I can raid endgame content while working on my monk alt in between events.

On TLP, even if the population remained steady, I simply wouldn't be able to keep up. By the time I hit 60, Luclin would have been out, then I would have AA's to grind and wouldn't have been able to enjoy VP because we'd already be keying for Vex Thal, etc. Having some static endgame is actually healthy here I'd say.

[Skarne]

https://i.imgur.com/RAS719I.jpg

female dwarf ftw...beards over bras

[starkind]

Good news would be p99 unlocking female playable Erudar.

[Croco]

So lots of people have bad taste? That’s nothing new

p99 exists so yeah

[Evia]

The reason why instancing sucks is because it totally ruins the illusion/immersion of being in a' world within a world '

It's awesome to play EQ because when I am somewhere in the game, or killing some named mob, I know that this is the only version of that going on. So it adds to this feeling of being in a 'living breathing world' but as soon as you instance shit the illusion is destroyed and now I'm staring at these 1999 graphics and realizing I'm just playing some old fucking computer game and the magic fades away.

[bigfun]

giving daybreak money in 2022 for anything is pathetic.

[Halius]

Lack of time is one of the reasons I like P99: If it takes me 5 years to build up a character, I can get away with that here because the game's a static era and doesn't outrun my limited efforts at character advancement.

This is exactly why I still play on P99 and do not partake in TLPs. I would never be able to keep up with content with mine and my kids schedules before it became a ghost town.

Whereas here, shoot, I've been playing on P99 since June of 2013. 9 years, with multiple breaks in that time. I've got one level 54 to show for it. However, every time I come back it's just as fun and the community is still thriving, so I'll be here to stay.