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Hesseth
05-12-2022, 07:00 PM
https://www.pcgamer.com/everquest-players-break-sacred-mmo-code-by-waking-up-20-year-old-dragon/

EverQuest players break sacred MMO code by waking up 20-year-old dragon

They woke the Sleeper, and not everyone was thrilled about it.

A few weeks ago, more than 100 players delved to the bottom of Sleeper's Tomb, the final dungeon of EverQuest's 22-year-old Scars of Velious expansion. It's a brutal, challenging area gated behind a key that requires players to defeat an endgame dragon. It seems like a serious moment, demanding coordination and focus. But this raid was not serious. It was a party at the end of the world as they knew it.

It was the kind of party that saw retired members returning, GMs turning people into illusory dragons, and a beloved community streamer narrating along on Twitch. Soundboards with in-jokes from two years of raiding together threw folks into gales of laughter. The server's strongest guild, Seal Team, had broken into this tomb to wake the Sleeper.

And that meant everyone else on the server was pissed.

So why would the server's most dominant guild want to wake the Sleeper? There is no more dramatic decision in EverQuest: it's a server-changing onetime event that unleashes the legendary dragon Kerafyrm on a murderous rampage across the server and removes his Warders—and, critically, their incredible loot—forever? Waking the Sleeper is the most historic moment in all of EverQuest, one of the most historic in any MMO, and anyone not already keyed was losing their chance forever to get these items.

According to Seal Team's detractors, it's a simple matter of the guild selfishly taking its ball and going home. For months, Seal Team had had the Tomb all to themselves by monopolizing the keyholder dragons. But in recent weeks challenger guild Kingdom and their allies in Safe Space had finally begun to accumulate some keys by getting kills on dragons like Yelinak and Zlandicar. Rather than let them have a chance at getting Warder loot, the selfish and miserable members of Seal Team were going to wake the Sleeper, ruin everyone's fun, and become that kid in the Disney movie with the black jersey that punches our plucky hero right in the schnoz. The p99 forum was filled with hundreds of posts like "Your decision to wake the Sleeper will not only tarnish your legacy and be a reason people look back at your guild with distaste, but it will inevitably lead to your collapse. Mark my words."

So, yeah. Hardcore EverQuest players are still really intense about EverQuest.

But that's just the story according to Seal Team's critics. The real story may be a bit more complicated. There had been extensive argument in the guild on when to wake the Sleeper, with heated words on both sides. Some wanted it done immediately to free the guild from having to focus solely on keys at the expense of good loot. Some wanted it left asleep forever, not seeing the point in taking away content. Accusations of officer corruption, tired players sick of tracking keyholder dragons, and a particularly loud German calling everyone pixel poopers made for a volatile stew.

Finally some Seal Team players had had enough. Taking matters into their own hands, a splinter faction of keyed players created a Discord channel called Kerafyrm's Dream in the middle of the night and started making moves toward the Tomb. Discontented Seals alongside members of other guilds were going to wake the Sleeper, consensus be damned. Only some mad scrambling by guild leadership—mobilizing to the Tomb, changing passwords on shared accounts, talking members off ledges—prevented disaster. The clock was ticking: Someone on Project 1999 Green was going to wake the Sleeper. The only question that remained was who was going to do it.


Seal Team's guild leadership was facing the biggest dilemma any EverQuest guild has ever or will ever have to face: Do they wake the Sleeper and risk alienating members who have worked tirelessly to level, raid, and compete for keys but who may not have yet gotten the items they want from the Tomb? Or do they leave it asleep and risk having another guild or a splinter faction wake it for them, ruining the chance for their members to experience the event?

For many who play on Project 1999 Green, this one incredibly rare moment is the culmination of 20 years of nostalgia. Two decades ago, this same moment was the first time in a massively multiplayer video game that players decided their own fate—really, the fate of their entire online world. It was one of the first big, scripted events in an MMO ever, with repercussions almost unthinkably dramatic in a game today. Imagine players in WoW or Final Fantasy 14 being able to permanently kill a boss, making their loot forever unobtainable for the rest of their server.

So on Project 1999 Green, polls were taken. Guild members' feathers were de-ruffled. And in the end, Seal Team made its decision: the guild would wake the Sleeper, no matter what anyone else on the server thought.

When the last Warder died, the whole server shook. Kerafyrm woke up and started rampaging through Sleeper's Tomb, killing everything in his path. Seal Team had posted on the forums that anyone who wanted could come to Skyshrine, the home of Lord Yelinak and Kerafyrm's final target, and face the Sleeper in an epic last stand to try to kill the invincible dragon, something that had only been done once before and was itself a legendary piece of MMO history.

Hundreds of players from other guilds, furious at Seal Team's actions, killed Yelinak before the battle could begin in earnest. Then Kerafyrm killed everyone and disappeared forever.

Project 1999 Green is now living in the aftermath. Historically, guilds that wake the Sleeper—even dominant ones—tend to fade into obscurity afterward. Something about releasing all that pressure, perhaps. Or feeling like the long journey is finally done. Seal Team's fate has yet to be determined, but one thing is clear. There is no going back.

TrevarianX
05-12-2022, 08:35 PM
Russian Ship ‘Seal Team’. GFY.

Tethler
05-12-2022, 10:49 PM
the selfish and miserable members of Seal Team were going to wake the Sleeper, ruin everyone's fun, and become that kid in the Disney movie with the black jersey that punches our plucky hero right in the schnoz.

I lol'd

Reiwa
05-13-2022, 12:38 AM
What sacred code what the hell, website?

getsome
05-13-2022, 02:41 AM
ARTICLES BY: RUSSELL ADDERSON

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Jimjam
05-13-2022, 02:42 AM
Lol which one of you bitter old nerds works for PC Gamer?

Bravo and fair play to you!

Kinda fun that we can provide published in media citations for slandering these green guilds now :D

Gustoo
05-13-2022, 05:49 AM
Nice coverage. Ripe for the pvp launch. Nothing entices wannabes more than legendary stories of deep QQ from pvp action. This good coverage just primes the pump.

They better fix line of sight for spells tho, casting from the ground up to kelethin is a hundred percent classic the z axis didn’t get implemented till like LDON or something.

Top of wizard spires, etc.

socialist
05-13-2022, 06:08 AM
Nice coverage. Ripe for the pvp launch. Nothing entices wannabes more than legendary stories of deep QQ from pvp action. This good coverage just primes the pump.

They better fix line of sight for spells tho, casting from the ground up to kelethin is a hundred percent classic the z axis didn’t get implemented till like LDON or something.

Top of wizard spires, etc.

Did they ever fix the resist system? Back when I played on red, it had some custom abomination designed to make sure spells had a decent chance to land no matter your resists. I recall getting rooted and snared pretty regularly through 130MR and sometimes sitting through full-duration roots. Any resistance other than MR was pointless as even basic generic nukes would usually land for full damage through 100 FR/CR. If they never changed that, there's no point launching another red server as it will die again for the exact same reason.

MrSparkle001
05-13-2022, 07:02 AM
Lol this made it to PC Gamer?

"Something happened on a private server that 800 people play every day" - PC Gamer

Gaxx
05-13-2022, 08:43 AM
PC Gamer is how I first heard about EverQuest back in the day. I remember seeing an article about it and it showed a bunch of people standing around the Gfay spire I think. I was like 12 and had no idea what a MMO was.

Then one day I broke my elbow and had to get a cast and was super bummed out about it because I couldn't ride bikes and skate with my friends so my parents took me to EB games to get a new game and I saw Everquest on the shelf and that was the start of a beautiful addiction. I bought NIN's "The Fragile" on the same day, popped it in my portable Sony CD player and got completely immersed while I ran around Gfay on my naked wood elf druid in this huge new world. I can't listen to the first few tracks of that album without thinking of Greater Faydark. Still one of my favorite albums ever.

Bardp1999
05-13-2022, 10:19 AM
Russell Adderson <Force of Will>

eqravenprince
05-13-2022, 10:53 AM
I can't believe this made it in PC Gamer, they must be hurting for news.

Jimjam
05-13-2022, 11:03 AM
Russell Adderson <Force of Will>

FoW jimmies confirmed RUSSELLed.

starkind
05-13-2022, 11:28 AM
PC gamer is a terrible magazine and you should feel terrible for being in it.

Gustoo
05-13-2022, 04:31 PM
Did they ever fix the resist system? Back when I played on red, it had some custom abomination designed to make sure spells had a decent chance to land no matter your resists. I recall getting rooted and snared pretty regularly through 130MR and sometimes sitting through full-duration roots. Any resistance other than MR was pointless as even basic generic nukes would usually land for full damage through 100 FR/CR. If they never changed that, there's no point launching another red server as it will die again for the exact same reason.

Not sure. Currently you can be a melee and run rampant on top of casters who don't even have enough mana to 1 v 1 kill you with moderate velious gear so I guess you might be happy with the current state of level 60.

Gaxx - the fragile is the best so you lucked out. I never listened to it playing EQ though, full MIDI gfay music immersion for me.

Zephys
05-13-2022, 04:45 PM
Maybe this is what they've been waiting for before they started seriously considering a blue/green merge or whatever the next step is supposed to be.

Scalem
05-13-2022, 06:47 PM
Nice coverage. Ripe for the pvp launch. Nothing entices wannabes more than legendary stories of deep QQ from pvp action. This good coverage just primes the pump.

They better fix line of sight for spells tho, casting from the ground up to kelethin is a hundred percent classic the z axis didn’t get implemented till like LDON or something.

Top of wizard spires, etc.

Do you ever get tired of inserting shitty red that 20 people care about into every single thread? We get it you want a new red, sorry your server sucks and is dead.

Reiwa
05-13-2022, 07:57 PM
Do you ever get tired of inserting shitty red that 20 people care about into every single thread? We get it you want a new red, sorry your server sucks and is dead.

I wonder if we'll get TAKP source for a PvP box before we get P99 Discord. :p

Gustoo
05-13-2022, 08:25 PM
Do you ever get tired of inserting shitty red that 20 people care about into every single thread? We get it you want a new red, sorry your server sucks and is dead.

Not at all. You'll have a good time on red 2 if it is the next p99 server and I will help you out even if you're the kinda guy that makes lame-o posts like this.

Chance of red 2 being the next p99 server is higher than a third blue server. The people that are on the top of Green will get to enjoy their hard earned pixels for some time, I'd expect.

Coridan
05-13-2022, 09:57 PM
If there's going to be a new pvp server it's going to be teams for sure. Kingdom, FoW and ST can each pick one. I'm sure they'll all be fighting over the shorties team.

Reiwa
05-13-2022, 11:36 PM
If there's going to be a new pvp server it's going to be teams for sure. Kingdom, FoW and ST can each pick one. I'm sure they'll all be fighting over the shorties team.

Shame only 2 teams get shaman races. Harder to raid like that.

Twochain
05-14-2022, 01:52 AM
glad to see the article

Zephys
05-14-2022, 02:30 AM
Shame only 2 teams get shaman races. Harder to raid like that.

How about just good vs evil? Or did those servers have a neutral faction too?

A Knight
05-14-2022, 03:18 AM
Man I had a decent joke, but its not off topic section, or RNF.

Neutral team probably certainly sees themselves as good team, even though they are neutral team.

Keza
05-14-2022, 03:41 AM
Sacred code of MMOs..? Cringe.

Most MMO players these days never played a real MMO. It's either a singleplayer themepark where you join a guild to raid (where you probably hate 80% of the players within) or a fake MMO like Destiny or Temtem. I'd guess the sacred code of MMOs by today's standards is "skip cutscene or kicked."

I know PCgamer has been around for a long time so I'd like to give it a handwave but these info sites are a dime-a-dozen now and they legitimately force you to type "reddit" into a search query in order to find useful information regarding anything game related due to these trash sites being every search engine algorithm's recommended choices. I hate them merely because of that.

Vizax_Xaziv
05-15-2022, 10:15 AM
How about just good vs evil? Or did those servers have a neutral faction too?

Interestingly, this is what happened on Tallon Zek. It was four-team ruleset (shorts v. humans v. elves v. evils) but the evil-team races we SO POPULAR that the sever basically became shorts+humans+elves vs evils. Still a huge problem though - the evils don't have BARD ACCESS. Which is a HUUGGGEE negative in outdoor PVP (as well as no resist songs for raiding)

So eventually ALL of the top guilds became "cross-team" guilds. Basically because you can't PVP against a guild who has ALL teams when your guild doesn't -- because some of those opponents will be invulnerable.

Zephys
05-15-2022, 04:19 PM
Sounds like a tricky issue to fix, but the staff's made plenty of other 'non-classic' changes over the years. Be kinda fun to see betrayal quests and special dark elf bard trainer NPCs or some such.

Think I might just hang out on red until something actually happens with the other servers. Evicting people from the camp you want by force is fun.

Cen
05-16-2022, 10:08 AM
what if there was a teams server unlike any that ever existed? like two factions that can use any race :D then no class restriction.

You can either join the fighting mongooses or the hand banana team.

Jimjam
05-16-2022, 11:31 AM
Teams suggestion:

Industrial/commerce:
Akanon, Kaladim, Freeport, Halas, Felwithe

Naturalistic:
Qeynos, Surefall, Grobb, Kelethin, Rivervale

Imperial/Domination:
Cabilis, Erudin, Neriak, Oggok, Paineel

what if there was a teams server unlike any that ever existed? like two factions that can use any race :D then no class restriction.

You can either join the fighting mongooses or the hand banana team.

I rather like this idea too.

Fammaden
05-16-2022, 12:03 PM
Qeynos is more industrial/commerce. I would say that switches with Halas and rename naturalistic to agrarian or something.

You may have had some more sort of class distribution or geographical balance in mind with the choices though, but Qeynos is just as much a port/mercantile place as Freeport.

Midfrost
05-20-2022, 09:04 PM
So... :S ... no point leveling on green anymore... thanks guys... I guess. GG... I guess.
I'm surprised it lasted this long, but also quite saddened by the turn of events as I thought Kerafyrm was kept sleeping because players wanted to try defeating him/her.

Until the next server!

-Ciao

Scalem
05-21-2022, 12:54 AM
So... :S ... no point leveling on green anymore... thanks guys... I guess. GG... I guess.
I'm surprised it lasted this long, but also quite saddened by the turn of events as I thought Kerafyrm was kept sleeping because players wanted to try defeating him/her.

Until the next server!

-Ciao

Sorry you lost and didn’t get warder loot.

Ooloo
05-21-2022, 03:50 PM
Warder loot severely overrated. I honestly don't get why it would ever be a make or break for somebody playing here. I mean how many people joined the server and were leveling up like a month before sleeper woke thinking "Okay if I just get all my ducks in a row here I'm pretty sure I'll get some warder loot still!"

Midfrost
05-21-2022, 08:04 PM
Sorry you lost and didn’t get warder loot.

I never cared about the warder loot... I had a lvl 13 rogue on live with salindrite dagger and SoD, I've already twinked as much as velious is capable of twinking. More than twenty years ago...

I just wanted to be in on a kill attempt... and I thought that was the reason Kerafyrm hadn't been awoken yet.
Because people wanted to achieve something... something that had priorly only been achieved on a PvP-server on live.

Ravager
05-21-2022, 08:07 PM
I never cared about the warder loot... I had a lvl 13 rogue on live with salindrite dagger and SoD, I've already twinked as much as velious is capable of twinking. More than twenty years ago...

I just wanted to be in on a kill attempt... and I thought that was the reason Kerafyrm hadn't been awoken yet.
Because people wanted to achieve something... something that had priorly only been achieved on a PvP-server on live.

That'll never happen here. There's always been a core of folk here who get their jollies from rustled jimmies.

Scalem
05-22-2022, 01:02 PM
I never cared about the warder loot... I had a lvl 13 rogue on live with salindrite dagger and SoD, I've already twinked as much as velious is capable of twinking. More than twenty years ago...

I just wanted to be in on a kill attempt... and I thought that was the reason Kerafyrm hadn't been awoken yet.
Because people wanted to achieve something... something that had priorly only been achieved on a PvP-server on live.

The guild that woke Kera on Green wanted to attempt to kill it. Their main competition and some casual guilds decided they would try and foil those plans and they did. There will never be a legit attempt to kill Kera on any P99 Server unless the GMs force everyone to work together and attempt it. You'll always have the 2nd and 3rd string guilds and casuals who think they deserved warder loot upset that the guild on top has decided to wake it and will do what they can to play the role of spoilers.

Ennewi
05-23-2022, 06:20 PM
There will never be a legit attempt to kill Kera on any P99 Server unless the GMs force everyone to work together and attempt it. You'll always have the 2nd and 3rd string guilds and casuals who think they deserved warder loot upset that the guild on top has decided to wake it and will do what they can to play the role of spoilers.

Would be a solid prerequisite for custom content to be unlocked on blue. Serverwide sleeper kill. But jfc the lag.

Tethler
05-23-2022, 10:46 PM
Even if everyone here cooperated, killing the sleeper would never happen on p99. It was killed on Rallos Zek in November of 2003. That's a year deep into Planes of Power. The power gap from gear and AA's is too big.

Saaxir Asimatenya
05-23-2022, 11:07 PM
I think the server should have merged with blue after the Sleeper was released. It would have been good story telling to have the world end in apocalypse from the Sleeper's rampage, and for all characters to have their afterlife in the world of stasis that is blue.

Ennewi
06-01-2022, 08:01 AM
Even if everyone here cooperated, killing the sleeper would never happen on p99. It was killed on Rallos Zek in November of 2003. That's a year deep into Planes of Power. The power gap from gear and AA's is too big.

Wonder how close the server would get to killing it though, esp if soulfires and ivandyr's hoops were unnerfed. Everything deemed unclassic allowed/reverted back to see what players could do, using all of the tricks. Unlikely to ever take place but still. Either that or custom content first, then return of the sleeper. Also unlikely.

mischief419
06-06-2022, 08:47 PM
Wonder how close the server would get to killing it though, esp if soulfires and ivandyr's hoops were unnerfed. Everything deemed unclassic allowed/reverted back to see what players could do, using all of the tricks. Unlikely to ever take place but still. Either that or custom content first, then return of the sleeper. Also unlikely.

I'd say not even close. I was online on RZ when this happened. The gap on gear for even non raid when comparing then and now is wild. Even the low 50s trash mobs quad attacked for 380 dmg like it was nothing, to compare.

Smuuglie
06-12-2022, 01:41 PM
<< the selfish and miserable members of Seal Team>>

Smuuglie
06-12-2022, 01:45 PM
Even if everyone here cooperated, killing the sleeper would never happen on p99. It was killed on Rallos Zek in November of 2003. That's a year deep into Planes of Power. The power gap from gear and AA's is too big.

Not to mention they cheated xD

Snaj
06-15-2022, 01:46 PM
Hey Seal Team. You guys suck. 2nd worst guild to ever exist.

Toxigen
06-15-2022, 04:15 PM
Look on the bright side: at least you weren't the 1st or 2nd monk in line (dkp wise) for the next shroud.

Imagine how rustled those mfkers are.

coki
06-23-2022, 01:15 AM
Look on the bright side: at least you weren't the 1st or 2nd monk in line (dkp wise) for the next shroud.

Imagine how rustled those mfkers are.

One of them already quit Seal team and or possibly green already

SummerYU
11-30-2022, 02:14 AM
Not into it anymore. Now I'd rather play other games like WotLK or FFXIV.