Roe v. Wade

[nilzark]

In before meltdown - LoL

[A Knight]

Ehh... I think if the fetus looks like Cell in the chamber in Dr Geros lab. Then its not alive.

But also if its a baby, and people chop it out, it might be normal to feel very shitty or fucked up about it.

But If we coexist with Conservatives, and Christians kinda made this country, then maybe people should practice keeping their fly up, and other things responsible to not have a baby. Birth control is cancer for women though /shrugs.

I'm being tortured to death in a fake reality, where supposedly in the real reality, people from the fake world have accused me of having a child. So I feel the frustrating of being born with sharp teeth, that make me autistic, and unresponsible to carry a penny to my male credibility. But also maybe people should be more responsible and practice safe sex.

I believe cats killed in China is worse, than something just dreaming, and passing on to another reincarnation.

The Matrix has you Neo. (I don't think I'm in the matrix. Just a fake reality. Just wanted to sound cool.)

[Nocht]

Inb4 Insurrection at the Supreme Court.


Oh wait. Remember its not an insurrection if its the Demos perpetrating it.

[Trexller]

I wonder what the apes are gonna burn this summer

[robayon]

Let's hear from the women on the forums

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[starkind]

You want to kill kids? This is how you do it. With conditioning, indoctrination, and shame. (https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/9585852002)

Top post already.
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Ehh... I think if the fetus looks like Cell in the chamber in Dr Geros lab. Then its not alive.

But also if its a baby, and people chop it out, it might be normal to feel very shitty or fucked up about it.

But If we coexist with Conservatives, and Christians kinda made this country, then maybe people should practice keeping their fly up, and other things responsible to not have a baby. Birth control is cancer for women though /shrugs.

I'm being tortured to death in a fake reality, where supposedly in the real reality, people from the fake world have accused me of having a child. So I feel the frustrating of being born with sharp teeth, that make me autistic, and unresponsible to carry a penny to my male credibility. But also maybe people should be more responsible and practice safe sex.

I believe cats killed in China is worse, than something just dreaming, and passing on to another reincarnation.

The Matrix has you Neo. (I don't think I'm in the matrix. Just a fake reality. Just wanted to sound cool.)

I actually understand you. Makes total sense.

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My mom and one of my sisters who are allegedly females are staunchly prochoice.

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Ain't female. I'm pro government stfu and staying tf out of it and not doing it and ppl keeping their fly zipped and women can just shoot ppl if they feel like it with a 50cal or stab them with Lazer swords. Overturning RvW will just create further administrative headaches and overhead while further eroding our society without actually changing the # of babymurders and pregger suicides.

Maybe punish ppl for extramarital sex instead. Or adultery.


Where is abortion even a problem? Poor ppl? Why tf is it a problem in the first place? Where are the proactive consequences and education and self defense courses?

Maybe if ppl make babies out of wedlock or not in a marriage without a license or adultery than sterilize the mfuckers. Both ppl.

Chop em bois. It's actually the Christian thing to do maybe..

[Kaveh]

I wonder what the apes are gonna burn this summer

Well that’s civil

[Homesteaded]

Don't kill babies. Super controversial stuff.

[starkind]

You're not killing babies if u sterilize them before conception for being stupid and unchristian. Which imo. Is the logical endpoint of this issue.

Citizenship tests and baby licenses. + Marriage licenses.

[MrSparkle001]

This could be a shitstorm of epic proportions. Mass protests, fights, talking heads on the "news" networks and online having a field day riling everyone up for whichever side they're promoting, relationships ruined, breakups skyrocketing, women boycotting men. It's gonna be a mess.

Hey, remember Ukraine? Remember how the invasion was suddenly forgotten because of the Roe vs Wade leak? Those were interesting times.

[robayon]

Rich people will still be able to get abortions, just like conservatives have always wanted. This has never been about protecting children. They just want more kids in the foster system so that they can sell them to billionaires.

[MrSparkle001]

Rich people will still be able to get abortions, just like conservatives have always wanted. This has never been about protecting children. They just want more kids in the foster system so that they can sell them to billionaires.

That's because the decision to allow or outlaw abortions will move to the states, and the rich states like California, New York, New Jersey etc. will continue to allow it while Texas, Mississippi, Alabama etc. will outlaw it.

[robayon]

That's because the decision to allow or outlaw abortions will move to the states, and the rich states like California, New York, New Jersey etc. will continue to allow it while Texas, Mississippi, Alabama etc. will outlaw it.Ah yes, a big opportunity for my fellow southerners. An entrepreneur may get a shot at the burgeoning sex trafficking industry here in Georgia. That or transporting the pregnant children of wealthy enough people to afford the services of a domestic coyote, and then returning them baby-free to maw and paw, then it's back to church on Sunday.

Ahh, perfectly moral behavior according to the christian conservative. America number one!

[Reiwa]

That or transporting the pregnant children of wealthy enough people to afford the services of a domestic coyote

Why need coyote?

[red_demonman]

Always weird to see people get so upset they may not get to kill babies anymore.

[Elizondo]

Dems ready to 'stand up for women' until the next college swim meet

[Jibartik]

Let's hear from the women on the forums

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It takes TWO to tango.

[robayon]

Why need coyote?I assume that they'll find a way to prosecute people for getting abortions across state lines

Even if they don't it is still just another battlefield in the class war, since there will be plenty of people within a given state that can't afford to take such a trip in time, or don't know about the pregnancy early enough

[Reiwa]

I assume that they'll find a way to prosecute people for getting abortions across state lines

commerce clause?

[MrSparkle001]

https://i.imgur.com/RNQ67xV.jpg

[robayon]

commerce clause?I do not have any faith in the powers that be abiding by the words on that rag

[Reiwa]

I do not have any faith in the powers that be abiding by the words on that rag

k but it and the market will preserve the abortion industry in america.

[Jibartik]

I havent been more proud of my gov in a long time, hope this happens!

[Jibartik]

lol everywhere in america in 10 years: https://www.reddit.com/r/CrazyFuckingVideos/comments/uha33s/woman_gets_beaten_up_by_children/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

[Reiwa]

I havent been more proud of my gov in a long time, hope this happens!

it wasn't the gov it was the council of nine. (dark wizards)

[starkind]

It takes TWO to tango.

That is y u sterilize BOTH

[robayon]

k but it and the market will preserve the abortion industry in america.if so, "The market" will keep abortions out of reach of many of the poorest people, by design like healthcare in general, so yes even if RvW is overturned the hierarchy remains untouched

[starkind]

https://i.imgur.com/RNQ67xV.jpg

This is perfect 👌

[Jibartik]

if so, "The market" will keep abortions out of reach of many of the poorest people, by design like healthcare in general, so yes even if RvW is overturned the hierarchy remains untouched

lmao poor people keep babies for welfare stop with this white woman's burden trying to say its "poor people" they're worried about.

[Jibartik]

lmao poor people keep babies for welfare stop with this white woman's burden trying to say its "poor people" they're worried about.

[Reiwa]

if so, "The market" will keep abortions out of reach of many of the poorest people, by design like healthcare in general, so yes even if RvW is overturned the hierarchy remains untouched

Easier for them to ban a public enterprise than a private exchange of goods and services.

You not braingood. 👍

[robayon]

lmao poor people keep babies for welfare stop with this white woman's burden trying to say its "poor people" they're worried about.you grow up poor, jib?

i know they don't care about poor people, that's what this has always been about: making sure only wealthy people can get abortions, preserving the hierarchy

[starkind]

if so, "The market" will keep abortions out of reach of many of the poorest people, by design like healthcare in general, so yes even if RvW is overturned the hierarchy remains untouched

Poor people are way easier to indoctrinate & condition especially if they on welfare and in prison! 👍

Great way for Satanists (both sides) to stay in power! 😈

[robayon]

Easier for them to ban a public enterprise than a private exchange of goods and services.

You not braingood. 👍oh i don't doubt that, i'm just saying anyone who thinks this has anything to do with ethics or saving babies is a hypocrite

e.g. every conservative

[Jibartik]

oh i don't doubt that, i'm just saying anyone who thinks this has anything to do with ethics or saving babies is a hypocrite

e.g. every conservative

I want to make it illegal for people to have abortions because of ethics.

[Reiwa]

oh i don't doubt that, i'm just saying anyone who thinks this has anything to do with ethics or saving babies is a hypocrite

e.g. every conservative

I think I just had a utilitarian thought so it's time for me to shut up. 😀

[Elizondo]

oh i don't doubt that, i'm just saying anyone who thinks this has anything to do with ethics or saving babies is a hypocrite

e.g. every conservative

Killing babies is wrong and evil

Now what

[starkind]

Same people screaming like lunatics outside an empty building in DC right now are the same people that support jab and mask mandates

hwFkvfj2xUk

May 3 Insurrection.

Tbh abortion doesn't go far enough in serving public safety and health and welfare in order to justify killing a single baby.

Gotta sterilize the bad (pagan) procreants! (Infidels!) See its even the root of infidelity! 😘

[Jibartik]

The real problem with america is how people think they know what other people are thinking.

So you can take someone being ethical, and turn it into them being an agent for a dark spirit that is attempting to sand off our genitalia and take over the planet and turn us into cattle.

I mean that's whats really happening but you can THINK its not by PRETENDING that I want abortion to be illegal so a select few can be the only ones that get it.

[starkind]

The real problem with america is how people THINK they know what OTHER PEOPLE are thinking.

So you can take someone being ethcial, and turn it into them being an agent for a dark spirit that is atempting to sand off our genitalia and take over the planet and turn us into cattle.

I mean that's whats really happening but you can THINK its not by PRETENDING that I want abortion to be illegal so a select few can be the only ones that get it.

I'm the most ethical person here. G-d sent me. 😇🤗🙏🧕 time to sand off some genitals. Gentiles. 😘

[robayon]

Killing babies is wrong and evil

Now whatgood to see you also want to defund the military and police, i guess

[starkind]

No one really cares except Elizondo's avatar is on fuck'n point!

[Elizondo]

The real problem with america is how people think they know what other people are thinking.

So you can take someone being ethical, and turn it into them being an agent for a dark spirit that is attempting to sand off our genitalia and take over the planet and turn us into cattle.

I mean that's whats really happening but you can THINK its not by PRETENDING that I want abortion to be illegal so a select few can be the only ones that get it.

Or just turning the issue into yet another cliche anti-capitalist rant most likely being echoed at a local Starbucks near you

[Jibartik]

good to see you also want to defund the military and police, i guess

conservatives are the best now join before its too late

[starkind]

How many babies have you on the good o'le plantation Elly'Z?

[Reiwa]

Jane Blonde just had her license to kill revoked

[Jibartik]

I love how the white kids were expecting their debt to be erased for the midterms but get this instead lol

[starkind]

The really real question is capitalism inherently satanic and racist?

[Jibartik]

or is racism satanic.

[Ooloo]

Let's hear from the women on the forums


Lmao, riiiiiight. It's all about "old white men controlling women" or something, right? As if there are no, ya know, WOMEN in the country who also oppose abortion?

It's weird, they always tend to be pretty hot, whereas the harpies shrieking about how awesome abortion is are super unattractive hambeasts. I've just noticed that.

[Jibartik]

SPERM MEETS EGG.

Not egg is a parasite until a woman feels ready.

TWO

PERSON

DECISION

[Reiwa]

SPERM MEETS EGG.

Not egg is a parasite until a woman feels ready.

TWO

PERSON

DECISION

only if the fetus can change hosts 🤰♂️

[Jibartik]

The problem is people think because there are evil men in the world that all women should chose if they should kill the baby that they most likely enganged in a two person activity to create.

Privlaged people want to be able to do whatever they want, with no repercussions, it's that simple.

Not being able to see this is inherently a TWO person decision is an example of white women in America today demanding attention and being greedy as any white person in america is known to be.

[starkind]

Lmao, riiiiiight. It's all about "old white men controlling women" or something, right? As if there are no, ya know, WOMEN in the country who also oppose abortion?

It's weird, they always tend to be pretty hot, whereas the harpies shrieking about how awesome abortion is are super unattractive hambeasts. I've just noticed that.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2021/11/30/how-americans-really-feel-about-abortion-the-sometimes-surprising-poll-results-as-supreme-court-weighs-overturning-roe-v-wade/

If only women could vote on abortion it would be pretty much legal.

[starkind]

The problem is people think because there are evil men in the world that all women should chose if they should kill the baby that they most likely enganged in a two person activity to create.

Privlaged people want to be able to do whatever they want, with no repercussions, it's that simple.

Not being able to see this is inherently a TWO person decision is an example of white women in America today demanding attention and being greedy as any white person in america is known to be.

Ya but you need to punish the immoral act not just the consequences of that act. And in that regard you need to punish the immoral men and women equally. Not just the women.

Most people who are that immoral by the time they are able to procreate are not reformable. So the consequence must be that they lose the privilege of procreation. Both men and women can be made so they cannot orgasm. Which is at the root of the issue.

[robayon]

conservatives are the best now join before its too latei would rather die

[Jibartik]

Ya but you need to punish the immoral act not just the consequences of that act. And in that regard you need to punish the immoral men and women equally. Not just the women.

I agree.

Abortion should happen if it threatens the life of the mother, or is an instance of rape.

If it was an instance of rape, then the person who caused the abortion to happen should go to jail for manslaughter, or worse.

If its to save the life of the mother, then it's up to the mother.

If its because they cant quit drinking coffee and blowing guys then to bad you're stuck with the kid. Or you can give it to me for adoption. I will put it in a Monroe box.

[starkind]

Look guys. I'm not im favor of abortion or immorality in any form. By choosing to have sex you take on a duty and responsibility under G-d.

I don't know where having sex with an abomination such as myself that cannot procreate falls under this, probably a lesser sin to some degree.

[Jibartik]

i would rather die

I am well aware you and half the country will start a civil war if it turns out the majority of us are conservative after all.

I don't know where having sex with an abomination such as myself that cannot procreate falls under this, probably a lesser sin to some degree.

Trans is a commodity in a world where abortion is illegal. :o think about it!

[robayon]

It's weird, they always tend to be pretty hot, whereas the harpies shrieking about how awesome abortion is are super unattractive hambeasts. I've just noticed that.I think that this portion of your post speaks volumes about your own mentality

[starkind]

I agree.

Abortion should happen if it threatens the life of the mother, or is an instance of rape.

If it was an instance of rape, then the person who caused the abortion to happen should go to jail for manslaughter, or worse.

If its to save the life of the mother, then it's up to the mother.

If its because they cant quit drinking coffee and blowing guys then to bad you're stuck with the kid. Or you can give it to me for adoption. I will put it in a Monroe box.
100% u nailed it. Gg.

Although maybe a woman has a duty to risk her life if the sex was consensual and under G-d and the society a duty to that woman and child in the case of severe illness. 🤔

[Ooloo]

I think that this portion of your post speaks volumes about your own mentality

I know I have this really crazy mentality where I think chopping up a baby and sucking it out of a women with a vaccum like it's literal garbage is bad.

I'm weird like that.

[unsunghero]

I’m pro choice under some circumstances so I should be allowed to post this:

[Jibartik]

What if in your DNA you pass on a diagram of you, and if there is no such thing as god, millions of years from now, we will find out we lock ourselves into immortality instaed, by burring yourself deep inside our childrens's children's children's dna, and so those that have kids in the future will be able to be resurected, and those that dont, will be thought of the way we do plane crash victims today, bummer, but oh well, lets move on with our lives!

I think about this a lot, because I like to think of a world where we are just made of stardust, but are able to live on forever into the future.

I think the only other way for us to live on forever, is if we invent time travel.

Which is maybe as plausible as resurrecting's someone through their great great great great great grandkids DNA

Anyway, this is why rape should never result in a child. Just to make sure nobody can live forever by raping a bunch of people.

[Ooloo]

I’m pro choice under some circumstances so I should be allowed to post this:

^^^ lmao

[Reiwa]

i would rather die

Washington v Glucksberg, 521 U.S. 702 (1997): A state is permitted under the Fourteenth Amendment to pass a law prohibiting assisted suicide.

Pro choice on the right to life is dead outside the cities.

I wonder if we'll keep pro choice alive on Obergefell or Lawrence.

[starkind]

What if in your DNA you pass on a diagram of you, and if there is no such thing as god, millions of years from now, we will find out we lock ourselves into immortality instaed, by burring yourself deep inside our childrens's children's children's dna, and so those that have kids in the future will be able to be resurected, and those that dont, will be thought of the way we do plane crash victims today, bummer, but oh well, lets move on with our lives!

I think about this a lot, because I like to think of a world where we are just made of stardust, but are able to live on forever into the future.

I think the only other way for us to live on forever, is if we invent time travel.

Which is maybe as plausible as resurrecting's someone through their great great great great great grandkids DNA

Anyway, this is why rape should never result in a child. Just to make sure nobody can live forever by raping a bunch of people.
Is immortality a privilege or luxury, right, or necessity?

I've seen profound arguments that death is what brings meaning and profundity to life. That without it we become isolated and cruel.

[robayon]

I know I have this really crazy mentality where I think chopping up a baby and sucking it out of a women with a vaccum like it's literal garbage is bad.

I'm weird like that.That's great, but I already know you don't actually care about babies, we've established that together. You just say you do because you are smart enough not to say what you actually mean on this type of subject, congrats

I was referring to you using the prospect of dead babies as a bridge to judge the attractiveness of women, which is just chilling and grim

[Reiwa]

If its to save the life of the mother, then it's up to the mother.

If its because they cant quit drinking coffee and blowing guys

Jib we need to have a talk. 🐦🐝

[Toxigen]

i usually lean right but im firmly lib on this

we have enough unwanted kids and shitty parents as is - let the bitches abort

[starkind]

Jib we need to have a talk. 🐦🐝

Birds and bees aren't sexually compatible without Corona virus mRNA

[Homesteaded]

Always telling when someone refers to poor people as if it is a genetic trait.

[unsunghero]

Wondering if protest signs will continue to exclude by having “Women’s rights” on them rather than “Birthing people’s rights” ;)

[Jibartik]

Jib we need to have a talk. 🐦🐝

You can get aids from a glass (https://www.nlm.nih.gov/exhibition/survivingandthriving/digitalgallery/img/st-A025403.jpg).

[Jibartik]

Always telling when someone refers to poor people as if it is a genetic trait.

poor people are important

all lives mater you say?

https://i.imgur.com/bOBddxx.png

[starkind]

Always telling when someone refers to poor people as if it is a genetic trait.

It's not necessarily. However it's telling how many are willing to accept impoverished circumstances and further perpetuate those very same circumstances or make them worse without sacrifice or work to improve them. There is something fundamentally flawed there. Be that potentially genetic in some scenarios or environmental. Regardless every G-dly person has a duty to stop enabling poverty and Infidelity.

[Ooloo]

That's great, but I already know you don't actually care about babies, we've established that together. You just say you do because you are smart enough not to say what you actually mean on this type of subject, congrats

I was referring to you using the prospect of dead babies as a bridge to judge the attractiveness of women, which is just chilling and grim

Hey you know what's grim? Chopping up a healthy baby and throwing it in the garbage.

[Ooloo]

Wondering if protest signs will continue to exclude by having “Women’s rights” on them rather than “Birthing people’s rights” ;)

Yeah it's pretty hilarious how they keep yelling "women's rights!" and then you're like "what's a woman?" and they bluescreen

[Nocht]

Robayon losing their mind because they can't murder babies any more.

Stay triggered liberal mutant.

[MrSparkle001]

Wondering if protest signs will continue to exclude by having “Women’s rights” on them rather than “Birthing people’s rights” ;)

Oh someone HAS to do this and protest the exclusion! I need the lols.

https://i.imgur.com/7tc81wb.jpg

[starkind]

I'm pregnant with a big brown burrito which I giveth to the world every day.

[Jibartik]

Always telling when someone refers to poor people as if it is a genetic trait.

Always telling when someone refers to a woman as if it is a genetic trait.

[Elizondo]

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[Botten]

Always telling when someone refers to poor people as if it is a genetic trait.

It is just easier for you to make more money with money. IE if you are born into a family with less of it. It is just that harder. I mean you should know this being a farmer and all.

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I actually can't be angry about this move.

1. From the leak it will be up to the state to decide. No lose of Abortion it is still there but the benefits of study from it and tourism to blue states is profitable.

2. Decision will take place before the midterms. Getting the blue vote out there.

3. Even more energized younger women voters along with their white knights

4. Higher taxes for Red state to pay for more mouths to feed

5. Business were further support policies against evil red states that don't care about woman health. +plus

More lose of revenue to red states who adopt these shenanigans. See last dumb republican move Mexico Shifts Trade Railway from Texas to New Mexico (https://www.nationalreview.com/news/mexico-shifts-trade-railway-from-texas-to-new-mexico-over-abbotts-enhanced-border-checks/).

6. More protests in Red State; they hate those things.


About the only plus to republicans in this is they get more uneducated white voters to combat the already increasing immigrant population turning these states blue.

[Jibartik]

It is just easier for you to make more money with money. IE if you are born into a family with less of it. It is just that harder. I mean you should know this being a farmer and all.

lets actually look at upward mobility rates Spoiler since obama they have gone below 10% in the USA with get this, an actual uptick during trump. PAH-thetic.

Is the American Dream over? Here's what the data says (https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/09/social-mobility-upwards-decline-usa-us-america-economics/)

The more the economy is inflated, the larger the gap between the rich and the poor, the smaller the chance at upward mobility. It's simple arithmetic.

[New_Guy]

I love how incels(whose only option to procreate is through forced rape) think they have the moral highroad to govern the reproductive rights of an entire gender.

Meanwhile all their imaginary sky wizard issues would disappear if they just got their penis touched.

[Jibartik]

I love when someone gets online to self reflect.

[unsunghero]

It is just easier for you to make more money with money. IE if you are born into a family with less of it. It is just that harder. I mean you should know this being a farmer and all.

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I actually can't be angry about this move.

1. From the leak it will be up to the state to decide. No lose of Abortion it is still there but the benefits of study from it and tourism to blue states is profitable.

2. Decision will take place before the midterms. Getting the blue vote out there.

3. Even more energized younger women voters along with their white knights

4. Higher taxes for Red state to pay for more mouths to feed

5. Business were further support policies against evil red states that don't care about woman health. +plus

More lose of revenue to red states who adopt these shenanigans. See last dumb republican move Mexico Shifts Trade Railway from Texas to New Mexico (https://www.nationalreview.com/news/mexico-shifts-trade-railway-from-texas-to-new-mexico-over-abbotts-enhanced-border-checks/).

6. More protests in Red State; they hate those things.


About the only plus to republicans in this is they get more uneducated white voters to combat the already increasing immigrant population turning these states blue.

Yeah it can only hurt the GOP

It shifts the focus from ongoing supply chain, inflation, etc issues to the never-ending abortion debate. That hurts the GOP since a community focused on a struggling economy is a community angry at the president for it, whether it’s their fault or not. And it turns suburban women against the GOP

I would have to disagree on the point where it shifts all abortions to blue states. That would only be for the people who can afford to go. A lot of the poorest people I see in my job have no transport, and can’t afford even a greyhound bus pass much less a plane ticket. So for poor people in red states, it will probably push them to try risky types of at-home abortions

The more mouths to feed is a good point tho. Banning something without putting infrastructure in place to handle a population surge is poor planning. Same issue I have with rescinding title 42/immigration

[New_Guy]

I love when someone gets online to self reflect.

Don't be mad at me because I see through this thinly veiled guise of giving a fuck about women's reproductive rights as anything more than being mad no chick will touch your dick.

True fact, every dude I every met who for any reason gave a shit about what women did with their bodies was a creepy super incel or gay as fuck on the downlo.

[starkind]

Always telling when someone refers to a woman as if it is a genetic trait.

17614

:o

[Reiwa]

I love how incels(whose only option to procreate is through forced rape) think they have the moral highroad to govern the reproductive rights of an entire gender.

Which right is being governed?

[New_Guy]

No normal guy with an average sized penis or above, who has sex with living humans, actually gives a fuck about telling women how to live their life.

[Kaveh]

Don't be mad at me because I see through this thinly veiled guise of giving a fuck about women's reproductive rights as anything more than being mad no chick will touch your dick.

True fact, every dude I every met who for any reason gave a shit about what women did with their bodies was a creepy super incel or gay as fuck on the downlo.

You being mad just gets more of them to vote in the midterms and ‘24

You played yourself. Stop whining and vote, if under 30s actually voted this wouldn’t matter but you don’t and then whine about the results

[Reiwa]

lets actually look at upward mobility rates Spoiler since obama they have gone below 10% in the USA with get this, an actual uptick during trump. PAH-thetic.

Is the American Dream over? Here's what the data says (https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/09/social-mobility-upwards-decline-usa-us-america-economics/)

The more the economy is inflated, the larger the gap between the rich and the poor, the smaller the chance at upward mobility. It's simple arithmetic.

Stagnant wages or stagnant wage growth? I don't know what those words mean but I know the two are different.

[Kaveh]

Roe v wade decision eliminates right to privacy? That’s terrible precedent and wrong headed, I’m hoping some of you moderates see it

I’m not gonna shriek about it like New_guy though. People have to vote or live with the results

[New_Guy]

Which right is being governed?

We should have a funeral, for your penis, have you ever thought of donating it? Every year thousands of perfectly healthy penises go unused, don't be one of them.

[Elizondo]

If men have no say then they shouldn't have to pay child support

[Reiwa]

We should have a funeral, for your penis, have you ever thought of donating it? Every year thousands of perfectly healthy penises go unused, don't be one of them.

I'm not familiar with that right. Please explain.

[New_Guy]

You being mad just gets more of them to vote in the midterms and ‘24

You played yourself. Stop whining and vote, if under 30s actually voted this wouldn’t matter but you don’t and then whine about the results

Don't blame me for giving you your little penis. Why else would you want to try and force women to incubate your unwanted seed.

You should blame your sky wizard, he's the one who gave you a toddlers penis.

[Ooloo]

No normal guy with an average sized penis or above, who has sex with living humans, actually gives a fuck about telling women how to live their life.

Well the doctors who kill little girls inside their mothers certainly feel authorized to tell *that* woman (the little girl) how to live her life, in that she shouldn't exist!

Nothin ghoulish about that sir!

(making this about women's rights is incoherent and you are wrong)

[New_Guy]

Well the doctors who kill little girls inside their mothers certainly feel authorized to tell *that* woman (the little girl) how to live her life, in that she shouldn't exist!

Nothin ghoulish about that sir!

(making this about women's rights is incoherent and you are wrong)

I'm not here to reason with Christians who want to infringe their religious beliefs on others and force women into incubators.

I'm just here to laugh at you for being a sexless freak who leads a shitty orgasm-less life all because of ancient scrolls you never even read.

It's hilarious

[Ooloo]

Roe v wade decision eliminates right to privacy?

What? It doesn't do that at all. Even RBG was against Roe on the grounds that it's a flimsy, weak argument and wouldn't stand up in the long run, and as it turns out she was right!

Mind you, she wanted abortion enshrined as a matter of equal protection.

The right to privacy is still very much intact, abortion simply doesn't fall under it now.

[Ooloo]

I'm not here to reason with Christians who want to infringe their religious beliefs on others and force women into incubators.

I'm just here to laugh at you for being a sexless freak who leads a shitty orgasm-less life all because of ancient scrolls you never even read.

It's hilarious

Haha I'm an atheist.

I love you weirdos always think its only religious people who oppose abortion. Like, do you oppose murder? I do, and I don't believe in god. Same principle, see how easy that is!

[New_Guy]

What? It doesn't do that at all. Even RBG was against Roe on the grounds that it's a flimsy, weak argument and wouldn't stand up in the long run, and as it turns out she was right!

Mind you, she wanted abortion enshrined as a matter of equal protection.

The right to privacy is still very much intact, abortion simply doesn't fall under it now.

lol you have no RL friends do you? Which incel board do you frequent, we all need a laugh today?

[MrSparkle001]

If men have no say then they shouldn't have to pay child support

Man: I want to keep the baby.
Woman: No, it's my body and I want to abort. You have NO say in this.

Man: I want to abort the baby.
Woman: No, I want to keep it and you have to pay child support. You have NO say in this.

[starkind]

If you need orgasms to lead a fulfilling life you're a gross pervert. Ancient scrolls are way better.

[Jibartik]

If you talk about how much more sex you have then it's pretty clear you WANT orgasms and wish you lived a fulfilling life.

[New_Guy]

I want to go party with the male anti abortion crowd and get laid!

Said no one, ever, once.

[New_Guy]

If you talk about how much more sex you have then it's pretty clear you WANT orgasms and wish you lived a fulfilling life.

Cmon bro, it's not a secret that nobody wants to party with the male anti abortion crowd, you're the defacto number 1 sexless group of banjo playing unfuckables.

There has also never even been a single sexy or cool depiction of your crowd in any form of fiction. The worlds greatest fictional writers can't even find a way to market your kind as anything but villains.

[Jibartik]

Son, you have a curfew for a reason.

[Elizondo]

17615

[MrSparkle001]

Cmon bro, it's not a secret that nobody wants to party with the male anti abortion crowd, you're the defacto number 1 sexless group of banjo playing unfuckables.

There has also never even been a single sexy or cool depiction of your crowd in any form of fiction. The worlds greatest fictional writers can't even find a way to market your kind as anything but villains.

Some seriously weak arguments. You gotta do better than that.

[New_Guy]

Some seriously weak arguments. You gotta do better than that.

You want me to have a logical argument with someone who thinks text from 2000 year old scrolls is grounds to deny women the right to choose their own bodily autonomy?

I'd have better luck training a fish to be a cyclist.

[Evia]

I'm Christian and strongly oppose abortion, personally.
However, as an American who is a huge believer in the constitution, I think this overturn is horrific and I strongly disagree with it.

Just setting up the next forced vaccine mandate attempt imo. Gotta set that precedent that you can override the constitution if you deem another life is in danger.

More proof that this left vs right shit is all fucking theater and its time to wake up. It's the elites vs the regular joes, and the sooner we stop fighting amongst each other and start looking at the overlords who are manipulating the shit out of us the better. Although its been written in ancient text that we're fucked regardless until Christ returns.

America is truly in jeopardy right now with all the censorship, mandates, and division. We are so beyond fucked.

In a few more years you won't even be able to speak out about it because they'll deem it misinformation. Is no one alarmed by this?

[MrSparkle001]

I'm Christian and strongly oppose abortion, personally.
However, as an American who is a huge believer in the constitution, I think this overturn is horrific and I strongly disagree with it.

Just setting up the next forced vaccine mandate attempt imo. Gotta set that precedent that you can override the constitution if you deem another life is in danger.

More proof that this left vs right shit is all fucking theater and its time to wake up. It's the elites vs the regular joes, and the sooner we stop fighting amongst each other and start looking at the overlords who are manipulating the shit out of us the better. Although its been written in ancient text that we're fucked regardless until Christ returns.

America is truly in jeopardy right now with all the censorship, mandates, and division. We are so beyond fucked.

In a few more years you won't even be able to speak out about it because they'll deem it misinformation. Is no one alarmed by this?

I think this is more about setting up the midterms in a few months than forced vaccinations. Whose base will be up in arms and eager to vote? Which party was going to get spanked hard and now might not be?

I don't trust this shit at all.

[Elizondo]

I'm Christian and strongly oppose abortion, personally.
However, as an American who is a huge believer in the constitution, I think this overturn is horrific and I strongly disagree with it.

Just setting up the next forced vaccine mandate attempt imo. Gotta set that precedent that you can override the constitution if you deem another life is in danger.

More proof that this left vs right shit is all fucking theater and its time to wake up. It's the elites vs the regular joes, and the sooner we stop fighting amongst each other and start looking at the overlords who are manipulating the shit out of us the better. Although its been written in ancient text that we're fucked regardless until Christ returns.

America is truly in jeopardy right now with all the censorship, mandates, and division. We are so beyond fucked.

In a few more years you won't even be able to speak out about it because they'll deem it misinformation. Is no one alarmed by this?

Abortion isn't being outlawed

It's just going back to the States to decide (if this is the actual decision)

As it should be

[Kaveh]

Don't blame me for giving you your little penis. Why else would you want to try and force women to incubate your unwanted seed.

You should blame your sky wizard, he's the one who gave you a toddlers penis.

Did you see my post where I said this was a bad decision? I’m more of a man than you’ll ever be you fucking weirdo

The fact is your anger just motivated all of these guys to vote. You, like most democrats, are a dumb ass. You probably don’t even vote

Vent here as much as you want, but you’re not accomplishing anything. And just to reiterate since you’re an illiterate dumb ass, I’m not for overturning roe v wade and think this was a TERRIBLE decision. It’s just you are the reason why people gleefully vote against liberals

Why don’t you go cry in a corner? I’ll be voting against these guys as is my right, pussy

[Ooloo]

I want to go party with the male anti abortion crowd and get laid!

Said no one, ever, once.

Cool bro high five, lets fuck some chicks!

Just don't get them pregnant and then murder the baby and chop it up and throw it in the garbage.

[Toxigen]

sorry you dont got dead babies

hope this helps

[Kaveh]

I'm Christian and strongly oppose abortion, personally.
However, as an American who is a huge believer in the constitution, I think this overturn is horrific and I strongly disagree with it.

+1

[Evia]

Abortion isn't being outlawed

It's just going back to the States to decide (if this is the actual decision)

As it should be

Ah thanks for the clarification on that. Still though, I don't like this attack on our constitution the last few years. The left was attacking it hardcore and now the right is doing the same. Scary that neither side represents freedom and America anymore.

[Kaveh]

Ah thanks for the clarification on that. Still though, I don't like this attack on our constitution the last few years. The left was attacking it hardcore and now the right is doing the same. Scary that neither side represents freedom and America anymore.

Yes my man this is the truth God bless you

[Kaveh]

New_guy still hasn’t registered to vote. SAD BIGLY!

[Toxigen]

Ah thanks for the clarification on that. Still though, I don't like this attack on our constitution the last few years. The left was attacking it hardcore and now the right is doing the same. Scary that neither side represents freedom and America anymore.

The thing people are talking about are states with "Trigger Laws" in place. So as soon as roe is overturned, some deep red states plan to enact legislation that will make it criminal for residents to travel to other states to carry out an abortion.

I'm all for as little fed government oversight as possible. Leave most of it to the states.

[Ooloo]

If you oppose abortion I really don't see how you can have any problem with this. You can't "privately" murder somebody. Abortion violates basically every fundamental human right *of the baby*.

It's really no wonder colorado wanted 9mo abortions. The left accuses the religious right of believing in magic because they think a 1 day old zygote is a human. They then engage in their own religious miracle thinking, that a baby magically becomes a baby as soon as the last bit of goop exits the birth canal or something. It's moronic and logically inconsistent.

[Kaveh]

If you oppose abortion I really don't see how you can have any problem with this. You can't "privately" murder somebody. Abortion violates basically every fundamental human right *of the baby*.

It's really no wonder colorado wanted 9mo abortions. The left accuses the religious right of believing in magic because they think a 1 day old zygote is a human. They then engage in their own religious miracle thinking, that a baby magically becomes a baby as soon as the last bit of goop exits the birth canal or something. It's moronic logically inconsistent.

Colorado is weird. Denver is the most racist place I’ve ever been and everyone has a BLM flag. I’d guess they’re going to find lead in the water because everyone there is a tattoo’d autist. My son moved there this year and so I’ve spent like 1-2 months in demver and while the hiking in Colorado makes me regret living in Texas all my life pretty much, the people are insufferable in Denver

Pretty sure Denver is turning the whole state blue, that and Boulder. Fort Collins and Springs seemed OK in my experience

Also, abortion isn’t murder. You can keep saying it but you are incorrect

[Kaveh]

The thing people are talking about are states with "Trigger Laws" in place. So as soon as roe is overturned, some deep red states plan to enact legislation that will make it criminal for residents to travel to other states to carry out an abortion.

I'm all for as little fed government oversight as possible. Leave most of it to the states.

Is that constitutional? To prohibit travel across state lines for something other states consider a medical procedure? I wonder…

[Elizondo]

Ah thanks for the clarification on that. Still though, I don't like this attack on our constitution the last few years. The left was attacking it hardcore and now the right is doing the same. Scary that neither side represents freedom and America anymore.

This actually isn't an attack on The Constitution. Abortion was never within it to begin with.

The reasoning to apply it to Roe and abortion was very weak. If anything, this decision (again if it actually happens) will strengthen The Constitution and give power back to the states

[Toxigen]

6 weeks in Texas is insane / extreme.

9 months is insanity too.

Why can't people just agree....get your shit together and decide by the end of the first trimester. Otherwise, you are now legally obligated to keep that child...even if you were drunk and let Billy from algebra class dump a load inside of you.

[Kaveh]

6 weeks in Texas is insane / extreme.

9 months is insanity too.

Why can't people just agree....get your shit together and decide by the end of the first trimester. Otherwise, you are now legally obligated to keep that child...even if you were drunk and let Billy from algebra class dump a load inside of you.

Roe v wade was closer to that than where we are now. But yes, agree with your position for the most part. I still think viability is a good end date. Agree that 9 months is extreme

[Reiwa]

The thing people are talking about are states with "Trigger Laws" in place. So as soon as roe is overturned, some deep red states plan to enact legislation that will make it criminal for residents to travel to other states to carry out an abortion.

I'm all for as little fed government oversight as possible. Leave most of it to the states.

I don't think states can do that, but I'm willing to learn.

[Kaveh]

I don't think states can do that, but I'm willing to learn.

I’m wondering about that as well. That would be very draconian

[Evia]

If you oppose abortion I really don't see how you can have any problem with this.

I oppose abortion STRONGLY! I think it's murder, personally.

However! I think it's more criminal for me to FORCE my views onto another person, and their own body, because of my truth. They wanna argue it's not a baby and it's just cells. Do i agree with them? Absolutely not. But it's their truth.

Just like I think it's unfair of people to try and force their medical beliefs and preventive medicine onto others who oppose. What they might call science and truth, another might see as poison and lies.

Who's right in either scenario?

I stand for the constitution and freedom of choice because imho it's the only fair and reasonable thing we have without GOD himself here to direct us.

[Jibartik]

Shouldn't it be illegal to murder people?

[Evia]

Shouldn't it be illegal to murder people?

Yes, I think so. However the opposing argument is that it's not murder because it's not a life "yet"

I don't agree with that, but who am I to say my view is superior to theirs? Like I said, without GOD here to answer these questions for us it's up to us to decide what we believe is the right thing. So personal freedom is everything.

If these pro abortionist people are in fact killing babies then they can talk to GOD about why they felt it wasn't a real baby.

If these anti vaxers are harming others by not getting a vaccine then they can talk to GOD about why they felt it wasn't necessary.

Why are we trying to play GOD ourselves and push our ideas and views down each other's throats? Shouldn't thou not judge? Lest you be judged yourself?

[Jibartik]

ok so this is a debate about what a life with rights is.

Your argument is what?

Mine is that once you there is conception, a baby will come out of the woman UNLESS you a. destroy it, or b. a tragic accident happens and it is destroyed.

so if destroying is =/= to killing then it should be alright to destroy a person.

OR you are saying destroying = killing, and that the fetus is different than mankind... however, without killing it, there is no other final result except: mankind.

It is not a "clump of cells" anymore than you are, the difference is that you can walk and talk... and if we're using that to define "person" then abortion should be OK until age like 5.

If we're saying you cant kill it if it looks like a person, than it should be illegal to destroy a doll.

What, science, can you argue that it is NOT person at conception?

[Kaveh]

Most pregnancies end in spontaneous termination before the mother even knows it Jib

I don’t think your above argument holds up scientifically

[Horza]

I'm pretty sure Christian fanatics like our friend here could care less about scientific validity.

[Ooloo]

Most pregnancies end in spontaneous termination before the mother even knows it Jib

I don’t think your above argument holds up scientifically

That's a complete non-sequitur to what jib is saying. He already acknowledged that a pregnancy can end by accident.

We're talking about doing it knowingly, that's obviously the key point. This decision is not forcing views onto anyone. States are now free to legislate abortion as the voters in those states see fit. Dems, who claim that democracy is in danger here, are opposing voters having the ability to determine what happens in their own states.

Think that over...

[Jibartik]

Most pregnancies end in spontaneous termination before the mother even knows it Jib

I don’t think your above argument holds up scientifically

What does this mean, spontaneous termination before the mother even knows it?

If you're saying sometimes a baby does not come out because of natural reasons (tragedy) then that's not the same as you saying you punched it in the face and killed it means its natural.

[Reiwa]

This actually isn't an attack on The Constitution. Abortion was never within it to begin with.

The reasoning to apply it to Roe and abortion was very weak. If anything, this decision (again if it actually happens) will strengthen The Constitution and give power back to the states

“The Constitution does not prohibit the citizens of each State from regulating or prohibiting abortion,” the draft concludes. “Roe and Casey arrogated that authority. We now overrule those decisions and return that authority to the people and their elected representatives.”

[Ooloo]

6 weeks in Texas is insane / extreme.

9 months is insanity too.

Why can't people just agree....get your shit together and decide by the end of the first trimester. Otherwise, you are now legally obligated to keep that child...even if you were drunk and let Billy from algebra class dump a load inside of you.

I mean that pretty much *is* how I view it. I technically am pro-choice in that sense.

Dems are freaking out though because they consider it some kind of human rights abuse not to be able to chop up their 4 or 5 or 6 month old healthy baby and throw it in the garbage, so I come off sounding all religious-right.

[Jibartik]

being anti abortion doenst even have anything to do with religion, it just makes sense to not have pregnancy be taken to such a scientific level.

Life should naturally evolve and we should not start breeding people based on their fiscal responsiblity.

Nothing is more "for the rich" than abortion, it encourages people (your generation) to sit at home and cry online abouot your economic situation, rather than nut up and go be a dad and work a real job.

It has created a generation of simps and cucks that dont even ahve sex with each other because they have so much body dysmorphia across the board. Never has a modern western society had less sexual relationships.

The entire argument from the left is that people should embrace irresponsibility, inorder to become more responsible, and meanwhile the results is their own sex lives have collapsed.

[Horza]

Being anti-abortion doesn't have anything to do with religion despite 99% of anti-abortion advocates being fundamentalist Christians lmao

[Ooloo]

Being anti-abortion doesn't have anything to do with religion despite 99% of anti-abortion advocates being fundamentalist Christians lmao

Who cares? It's philosophically consistent to oppose murder and abortion, even if you're secular af.

Unless you have the magic date at which a baby becomes human, and thus killing it constitutes murder? No?

[starkind]

being anti abortion doenst even have anything to do with religion, it just makes sense to not have pregnancy be taken to such a scientific level.

Life should naturally evolve and we should not start breeding people based on their fiscal responsiblity.

Nothing is more "for the rich" than abortion, it encourages people (your generation) to sit at home and cry online abouot your economic situation, rather than nut up and go be a dad and work a real job.

It has created a generation of simps and cucks that dont even ahve sex with each other because they have so much body dysmorphia across the board. Never has a modern western society had less sexual relationships.

The entire argument from the left is that people should embrace irresponsibility, inorder to become more responsible, and meanwhile the results is their own sex lives have collapsed.

I mean. Sort of. I blame a lack of mutual combat. Trans fats. And like the fact that everyone in congress or on the board of a large global corp practically doesn't even go to work or live in America. Nor have any checks and balances against selling dumb shit to dumb ppl. Or owning everything.

You're not wrong sort of. You are also not ready for my holy war. So maybe be greatful for the simps and cucks and get them trained up and clean 🙏

[Ooloo]

It's also important to remember that not all extremes are created equal.

Like I agree that saying you can't kill a one day old embryo is extreme, but what is the worst consequence of that, assuming it is a healthy normal pregnancy? The mother of the child is burdened until it is born, at which point she is free to put it up for adoption.

The opposite extreme (allowing abortion up to the moment of delivery, and occasionally even immediately after), results in outright murder. I would call that the worse of the two extremes.

[Horza]

Many voters may care about religious fanatics using the courts to demand control over women's bodies based on your retarded scripture.

[Jibartik]

Being anti-abortion doesn't have anything to do with religion despite 99% of anti-abortion advocates being fundamentalist Christians lmao

I cant help it if that's the group that actually has compassion and brains when it comes to this form of eugenics and population control.

[Kaveh]

Eugenics, huh? Cmon man

[Reiwa]

Anyone have the bits where Alito talking about fetal viability? Paste please.

[Jibartik]

Eugenics, huh? Cmon man

What part of abortion do you not understand?

It is literally population control and eugenics AT BEST... trying to give a child a better life by aborting it if it wont? That is literally eugenics.

This much is true: In the United States, the abortion rate for black women is almost five times that for white women.

[starkind]

Idk why Jibartik is so afraid of eugenics. It ties directly into the end times tribulation stuff.

[Horza]

Jib is going mask off and assuming everyone else is just as racist as he obviously is.

[Kaveh]

What part of abortion do you not understand?

It is literally population control and eugenics AT BEST... trying to give a child a better life by aborting it if it wont? That is literally eugenics.

Sounds like a right you’re taking from black people then?

People have different opinions than you. Doesn’t make them murderers or eugenicists. Cmon man

[Jibartik]

Idk why Jibartik is so afraid of eugenics. It ties directly into the end times tribulation stuff.

Because my opinions =/= anything, so I can hold whichever moral stance I have, as I enjoy the rest of us sinking our titanic.

[Jibartik]

People have different opinions than you. Doesn’t make them murderers or eugenicists. Cmon man

No but that does not mean they arnt performing the most horrendous acts of eugenics on a personal scale (through millions of citizens millions of times) when they decide to kill their "clump of cells" because the guy they banged was not the best father material.

[Kaveh]

Seems like you want the titanic to sink though

[Jibartik]

Seems like you want the titanic to sink though

Yeah I want it to sink, but that's irrelevant.

I'm not making it sink, anymore than you are. It's just sinking, because that's what titanics do. Name one that hasn't. Egypt? Rome? Greece? Persia? Britten?

Lucky for me, I get to enjoy it. It's my privlage.

That doesn't mean if I had to chose it, that I'd chose it though. Id definitely chose the best things for the most people. Which might be letting nature take its course.

[Kaveh]

No but it does make them performing the act of eugenics, when they decide the guy they banged was not father material.

Or maybe they were too poor for birth control but have sex like normal people? I neither know the reason nor support the immoral action of having an abortion, but it is a right that many normal (not murders, not eugenics supporters) people have exercised and so that makes me question taking that right away from them

Doesn’t matter, the people losing their minds over this probably didn’t vote. Republicans have been saying this since 1973. Personally, I thought it was red meat for the yokels and didn’t think they’d ever actually do it. We decide these things at the ballot box

[Kaveh]

Yeah I want it to sink, but that's irrelevant.

I'm not making it sink, anymore than you are. It's just sinking, because that's what titanics do. Name one that hasn't. Egypt? Rome? Greece? Persia? Britten?

I personally do not want it to sink because it would be bad for the world, possibly even fatal since we are in the nuclear era

[Jibartik]

Or maybe they were too poor for birth control but have sex like normal people? I neither know the reason nor support the immoral action of having an abortion, but it is a right that many normal (not murders, not eugenics supporters) people have exercised and so that makes me question taking that right away from them

These are all issues that Id agree would be great to solve, but abortion is not the right way to do it, anymore than paying a bunch of kids for their loans is to solve the student loan problem.

[Kaveh]

Fatal as in existential for the species

Anyway gonna go to the gym so my heart makes it hopefully another couple decades to be around to help my kids and grandkids with what seems to be an increasingly crazy and nonsensical world

[Kaveh]

These are all issues that Id agree would be great to solve, but abortion is not the right way to do it, anymore than paying a bunch of kids for their loans is to solve the student loan problem.

I don’t have the answers and won’t claim to. I just think we’re taking pleasure in reducing all of our collective rights so that politicians and grifters can grow ever more powerful and laugh at us. None of these dickheads on either side are fit to hold the powdered wigs of the founding fathers

[Jibartik]

I personally do not want it to sink because it would be bad for the world, possibly even fatal since we are in the nuclear era

Sure, but enjoying it, vs being upset about it, when it happens is the difference.

Like we're both = except im having fun and youre not, take my hand, lets just enjoy it!

https://i.imgur.com/BVF0o5P.gif

[Jibartik]

I just think we’re taking pleasure in reducing all of our collective rights so that politicians and grifters can grow ever more powerful and laugh at us. None of these dickheads on either side are fit to hold the powdered wigs of the founding fathers

To answer starkind, too... perhaps I am happy about this because it's just one more step we need to my favorite series finale idea :o

If I die old age and see new discoveries, great, if I die tommorow because we all bow ourselves up, bad fricken ASS! lol who cares i dont.

[Horza]

I personally do not want it to sink because it would be bad for the world, possibly even fatal since we are in the nuclear era

Jib just wants all of us to die horribly in a nuclear apocalypse, why are you so upset about that?

[New_Guy]

when they decide to kill their "clump of cells" because the guy they banged was not the best father material.

See it's not really about saving anyone, it's about finding a way to punish and control women for a narrow oversimplification of a complex problem.

[Evia]

Jib I am not saying the points you’re making are wrong. I agree with what you’re saying and totally get where you’re coming from.

I’m just saying it’s a fine line when you start taking away other people’s rights to their own body. Once we rationalize why we should do it, no matter the reasoning, it becomes easier and easier to start doing it in other areas of people’s lives. Where does it end?

See it's not really about saving anyone, it's about finding a way to punish and control women for a narrow oversimplification of a complex problem.

Also, giant LOL to people doing the mental gymnastics here implying anything jib has said makes him racist or has an interest in controlling women. He’s simply saying you should be held responsible for the decisions you make. Nowhere did I see anything mentioning race at all. Seems unfair to just toss out such strong accusations that are from left field just because he’s against abortion and you disagree.

[Jibartik]

Jib I am not saying the points you’re making are wrong. I agree with what you’re saying and totally get where you’re coming from.

I’m just saying it’s a fine line when you start taking away other people’s rights to their own body. Once we rationalize why we should do it, no matter the reasoning, it becomes easier and easier to start doing it in other areas of people’s lives. Where does it end?

basically where its at now, but without so much abortion.

See it's not really about saving anyone, it's about finding a way to punish and control women for a narrow oversimplification of a complex problem.

Yes that is it, and guess what new guy, we're winning.

[New_Guy]

Yes that is it, and guess what new guy, we're winning.

We know and in the end, you'll lose...everything.

[Jibartik]

either way I win?

https://i.imgur.com/BcUvae8.gif

[GinnasP99]

We've got each other, and that's a lot for love. We'll give it a shot!

[New_Guy]

either way I win?

If you want to punish and control women because of a sky wizard you are already lost.

[Jibartik]

What i want is irrelevant compared to what you want me to want.

[Horza]

They don't really need a reason to want to punish and control women.

[Jibartik]

I see the fetus isnt alive argument didnt work so we're going back to I dont see color erra pro abortion arguments.

You guys have like 5 arguments for this, and why is it so important to you to have so much skin in the woman's vagina game, if you're going to make it about me being a guy?

[Elizondo]

They don't really need a reason to want to punish and control women.

What's a woman?

You a Biologist?

[Jibartik]

I think the ultimate irony is the feminists want equality but when it comes to defending their ridiculous logic about abortion they just revert to vicious sexism and say men are incapable of understanding.

[Horza]

I see the fetus isnt alive argument didnt work so we're going back to I dont see color erra pro abortion arguments.

You guys have like 5 arguments for this, and why is it so important to you to have so much skin in the woman's vagina game, if you're going to make it about me being a guy?

All I see here is a paste eating retard crying about being correctly identified as a misogynist who desperately wants to punish women.

[Jibartik]

Nobody cares what you identify anyone as but yourself.

[Reiwa]

Sure, but enjoying it, vs being upset about it, when it happens is the difference.

Like we're both = except im having fun and youre not, take my hand, lets just enjoy it!

https://i.imgur.com/BVF0o5P.gif

Enact pro-climate change initiatives to then hold a Second American Homestead rush in Siberia. People who don't like other states having different laws can make their own states there.

[Horza]

Nobody cares

https://i.imgur.com/M5UezhI.jpg

[Reiwa]

I’m just saying it’s a fine line when you start taking away other people’s rights to their own body. Once we rationalize why we should do it, no matter the reasoning, it becomes easier and easier to start doing it in other areas of people’s lives. Where does it end?


If a court can create a law, they can also destroy that law.

Personally, I'm in favor of the wizard council doing things I like.

[starkind]

https://i.imgur.com/M5UezhI.jpg

Most of my posts are flippant asshattary. Even if someone engaged in eugenics against the gays or jannies they'd do a half job of it. Most ppl don't have the fortitude to really bring about the kingdom of heaven at the price of their own souls.

A few will try and we'll all pay for it for letting them tho.

Go vote for whatever and clear your conscience. That's the minimum we have for our duty to mankind. And if you really can't vote for whatever reason. Go play games and do puzzles and stop worrying about the abled ppl left fighting. Your job is done.

[Jibartik]

lol horza thinks all of those posts are like, "great post horza!" "nice one horza!" "ohh horza, you make me mad!"

Horza, this one is for you.

[Cecily]

c7Z8Ww1EmMk

[unsunghero]

“We found life on another planet, finally!”

“You found what?”

“Life!”

“A collection of cells is not life, dispose of it”


One of the upsides to a zygote/fetus/embryo/whatever is the still semi-unlimited potential. Hasn’t had any possible permanent damage done by its own stupid choices, or it’s parents, or the environments. Hadn’t had it’s little mind messed with and programmed yet like a kid. Pure unspoiled potential

[Botten]

“We found life on another planet, finally!”

“You found what?”

“Life!”

“A collection of cells is not life, dispose of it”


One of the upsides to a zygote/fetus/embryo/whatever is the still semi-unlimited potential. Hasn’t had any possible permanent damage done by its own stupid choices, or it’s parents, or the environments. Hadn’t had it’s little mind messed with and programmed yet like a kid. Pure unspoiled potential

Hey, Stem Cells. I work with those!

Too soon?

[unsunghero]

Hey, Stem Cells. I work with those!

Too soon?

They are the future. They grew my aunt a new knee with them, when all other mechanical surgical fixes failed. Of course health insurance didn’t cover it and it was super expensive

She did seek out one that uses your own organic material though, not an embryo. I imagine ones using embryos are probably pretty rare or highly circumstantial or something but I haven’t really looked into it

[Ooloo]

Hey, Stem Cells. I work with those!

Too soon?

Stem cells and embryonic stem cells are not the same thing, for starters, but you're just throwing up a red herring.

Even stem cells taken from embryos are fine; the question is in what manner were the embryos lost?

[unsunghero]

Even stem cells taken from embryos are fine; the question is in what manner were the embryos lost?

Christopher Reeve (paralyzed Superman actor) says stem cells are hope

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LNJi0CzfodI

[robayon]

SgjGwOByays

[Ooloo]

Carlin's abortion bit is just an unfunny partisan political dig about how ohhh republicans are bad!

He still doesn't make any kind of compelling point in favor of chopping up your healthy 6 month old baby and flushing it down the toilet and\or throwing it in the garbage, sorry.

[unsunghero]

SgjGwOByays

I agree in that my empathy goes up linearly backwards from whatever the max human age is to embryo

Because if we are considering a death, it’s about the max lost life potential

A 110 year old who dies lost no years, they lived far past the human average

A 40 year old who suddenly dies lost out on the second half of their life

A 10 year old who suddenly dies lost out on like 80% of their life

A newborn who dies of CIDS lost out on their entire life

And, let’s use a miscarriage, a baby who dies due to miscarriage lost out on more potential life than any of those above


Now that’s empathy for the death. Not for the parent. Because obviously I am going to have slightly more empathy for a parent who loses a baby or a 10 year old than one who suffers a miscarriage (although obviously I’ll still have it for this) because they had time to become more attached to the child and so their hurt will be deeper

But a lot of Dems, it seems their empathy goes up linearly backwards from max human age down to 1 day old and stops there

[Reiwa]

But a lot of Dems, it seems their empathy goes up linearly backwards from max human age down to 1 day old and stops there

Style guide recommends linearly, directly, and inversely.

I hope this helps.

[Jibartik]

I like dogs more than most people a fetus is the best a person can be, then once they start talking they wont shutup.

[Ooloo]

I'm personally happy to be alive, even though life is often very hard and tragic. Glad George Carlin wasn't able to decide for me ahead of time that I shouldn't exist to own the evil republicans.

[unsunghero]

I like dogs more than most people a fetus is the best a person can be, then once they start talking they wont shutup.

Yeah not a fan of babies at all. Most are ugly, loud, constantly leaking fluids, and I worry about fucking up holding one

Little kids are smelly, dirty, also loud, destructive, and full of contagious sicknesses they are picking up from all the other smelly dirty kids at school

My niche to hang out with of all child ages is teens. Well-adjusted teens who aren’t constantly trying to be defiant. Like a teen who’s down to just sit and play video games but isn’t going to insist it be Fortnite and freak the F out when he loses

[starkind]

Giant megalithic robots programmed to enforce the 10 commands, commandments. Are where it's at.

Anything less is just imitation.

[robayon]

Carlin's abortion bit is just an unfunny partisan political dig about how ohhh republicans are bad!

He still doesn't make any kind of compelling point in favor of chopping up your healthy 6 month old baby and flushing it down the toilet and\or throwing it in the garbage, sorry.Yeah, this doesn't meet your rigorous standards of "Matt Walsh whines for eight solid minutes without providing any substantial information"

[robayon]

My niche to hang out with of all child ages is teens. Well-adjusted teens who aren’t constantly trying to be defiant. Like a teen who’s down to just sit and play video games but isn’t going to insist it be Fortnite and freak the F out when he losesIf Elizondo were here and you were his schoolyard enemy like I am he'd call you a groomer for this

I mean, I know you're not I'm just using this as an opportunity to mock the village idiot

[Ooloo]

Yeah, this doesn't meet your rigorous standards of "Matt Walsh whines for eight solid minutes without providing any substantial information"

I do admit I'm a huge fan of his, you got me there. I'll own that.

[Horza]

My niche to hang out with of all child ages is teens. Well-adjusted teens who aren’t constantly trying to be defiant. Like a teen who’s down to just sit and play video games but isn’t going to insist it be Fortnite and freak the F out when he loses

https://i.imgur.com/F0j25ZR.gif

[Reiwa]

Giant megalithic robots programmed to enforce the 10 commands, commandments. Are where it's at.

Anything less would be uncivilized. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hp_Ju_vbPro)

[Ooloo]

If Elizondo were here and you were his schoolyard enemy like I am he'd call you a groomer for this

I mean, I know you're not I'm just using this as an opportunity to mock the village idiot

I don't think he'd call him a groomer for that, cause he's just playing videogames with teenagers. As opposed to say, telling a 7 year old he might need estrogen to "feel comfortable in his body".

[New_Guy]

Carlin's abortion bit is just an unfunny partisan political dig about how ohhh republicans are bad!

He still doesn't make any kind of compelling point in favor of chopping up your healthy 6 month old baby and flushing it down the toilet and\or throwing it in the garbage, sorry.

It's not a joke, ya'll are angry ugly unfuckable mutants, George was just being real, and to be honest I wish somebody flushed your ass.

[Ooloo]

It's not a joke, ya'll are angry ugly unfuckable mutants, George was just being real, and to be honest I wish somebody flushed your ass.

Cool man! I think you're a psychotic retard based on your posting itt, and yet I DON'T wish that somebody "flushed your ass"!

Seek therapy.

[New_Guy]

Cool man! I think you're a psychotic retard based on your posting itt, and yet I DON'T wish that somebody "flushed your ass"!

Seek therapy.

Don't blame me for honestly saying the best thing you could have done for mankind was to be aborted, I didn't make you.

[Ooloo]

Don't blame me for honestly saying the best thing you could have done for mankind was to be aborted, I didn't make you.

Lmao, who else could I blame but you for saying a thing that you said?

The syntax of your burns doesn't even make sense.

[unsunghero]

If Elizondo were here and you were his schoolyard enemy like I am he'd call you a groomer for this

I mean, I know you're not I'm just using this as an opportunity to mock the village idiot

Yeah I have to interact with kids juuust about every day at work

Not a fan generally. Although one thing I try to do is not change my tone or mannerisms to “talking to little kid voice” like a lot of teachers and clinicians do. Like I’ll dumb my words down but I’m not going to speak in an overly-excited fake voice because I think on some level kids recognize you are being fake around them

[Cecily]

HEEEY HOW ARE YOU?! YOU LIKE PAW PATROL TOO? I THINK THATS MY FAVORITE.

[unsunghero]

HEEEY HOW ARE YOU?! YOU LIKE PAW PATROL TOO? I THINK THATS MY FAVORITE.

Egggxactly

[starkind]

Hp_Ju_vbPro


🧐🤓😎

[Homesteaded]

I want to go party with the male anti abortion crowd and get laid!

Said no one, ever, once.

The anti-abortion crowd tends to want to make babies. How do you think the crowd that has repopulated the earth meets and gets laid? Get a clue bucko.

[unsunghero]

The anti-abortion crowd tends to want to make babies. How do you think the crowd that has repopulated the earth meets and gets laid? Get a clue bucko.

What’s the saying, all the people arguing for abortion rights were people fortunate enough to be born? Something like that

It is true though that there is a subset of the right that has transferred a lifetime of rejection by women into a hatred of women. They are vocal about how women just need to stop being sluts, etc

But on the flip side of the coin, there is a subset of the left that has also transferred a lifetime of rejection from men (the men they desire anyway) into a hatred of men: the crazy cat lady feminist type. They can be just as hateful but tend to not be as violent. These types would have no problems with discrimination against men in custody hearings, divorce courts, or penal sentencing (men getting harsher sentences than women for the same crime)

So in summary, both sides of the political isle have ugliness to them. Which side has more or which is more ugly will probably depend on your perspective

[unsunghero]

It is interesting, it looks like around 800,000ish abortions occur every year in the US

Could you imagine if all were magically undone? Then you came to the person, now grown up, and presented proof that they only exist because the abortion of them was magically undone

What percent of them would end up pro-life after hearing this, I wonder? I’m guessing it wouldn’t be nearly all but probably most of them. That would be a huge army of pro-life people

Then again, that would be a lot more people in general. Overpopulation problems would be compounded

Edit: nah it’s too hard a hypothetical. Because you couldn’t just assume they would grow up to be a reasonable well adjusted person, or that they would grow up at all, especially if their parent didn’t want them

[robayon]

ould be compounded

Edit: nah it’s too hard a hypothetical. Because you couldn’t just assume they would grow up to be a reasonable well adjusted person, or that they would grow up at all, especially if their parent didn’t want themnow just imagine the quantity of people who grow up despising the united states outsourcing labor to their country

sure, a lot of people might get a crack at a job that pays more than the general wage of the place they grew up in pays for whatever labor

but it makes you wonder if you'd do the thing that gives the privilege to choose to do the thing

[Reiwa]

but it makes you wonder if you'd do the thing that gives the privilege to choose to do the thing

The wha? Learn English or be deported son.

[robayon]

The wha? Learn English or be deported son.ass and balls and poppycock

[Reiwa]

ass and balls and poppycock

codswallop!!

[robayon]

codswallop!!don't be such an elitist, all languages evolve over time, english is slippery

[Arvan]

Ahh yes America - where you can simultaneously hold the belief that the government can’t make you wear a mask but also the government can and should tell your mothers sisters wives and daughters that they suddenly have lost autonomy over their reproductive organs and human rights. What a time to be alive.

[Reiwa]

don't be such an elitist, all languages evolve over time, english is slippery

https://i.imgur.com/5MYHFlO.jpg

[Grumph]

Ahh yes America - where you can simultaneously hold the belief that the government can’t make you wear a mask but also the government can and should tell your mothers sisters wives and daughters that they suddenly have lost autonomy over their reproductive organs and human rights. What a time to be alive.

17624


“Does your bill have any limit on when a woman and doctor can agree to perform an abortion due to psychological well being?”

…

“Lets say. Shes about to give birth. Ok. Shes dilating. Would your bill still allow an abortion to be performed?”

“Yes it would.”

[Botten]

We can't tell others to get a vaccine that saves lives (their body their choice). Yet they say they overwhelmingly care about a life that isn't even complete.

Imagine telling others it doesn't affect yours or another's body because Covid isn't an infectious disease and a vaccine that can shorten this infection period if a break out case occurs can't be administered to them because your body your choice.

Then image also telling others that you don't need the vaccine when your own immunity fades and continues to fade after 6 months after recovering from Covid. Oh and ignoring the chance to have super immunity to Covid by having the virus and then later also getting the vaccine.

EVEN BETTER!!

Imagine being part of a religion against abortion when their own God let their kid die. What? Too Woke for you?

41 senators are representing less than 11% of the US population and can block legislation that is supported by the other 59 senators and 89% of the population.

So even if the government tried to over rule the 3 picked Judges that got their seat through corruption from the Republican head of the senate it is near impossible to enact the will of the political popular majority of the population.

Damn you Republican be corrupt as F....

[Kaveh]

We can't tell others to get a vaccine that saves lives (their body their choice). Yet they say they overwhelmingly care about a life that isn't even complete.

Imagine telling others it doesn't affect yours or another's body because Covid isn't an infectious disease and a vaccine that can shorten this infection period if a break out case occurs can't be administered to them because your body your choice.

Then image also telling others that you don't need the vaccine when your own immunity fades and continues to fade after 6 months after recovering from Covid. Oh and ignoring the chance to have super immunity to Covid by having the virus and then later also getting the vaccine.

EVEN BETTER!!

Imagine being part of a religion against abortion when their own God let their kid die. What? Too Woke for you?

41 senators are representing less than 11% of the US population and can block legislation that is supported by the other 59 senators and 89% of the population.

So even if the government tried to over rule the 3 picked Judges that got their seat through corruption from the Republican head of the senate it is near impossible to enact the will of the political popular majority of the population.

Damn you Republican be corrupt as F....

Drugs

[Botten]

Drugs

Sadly no, no drug I make in the lab can fix retard redneck brainwashing.

[Elizondo]

Ahh yes America - where you can simultaneously hold the belief that the government can’t make you wear a mask but also the government can and should tell your mothers sisters wives and daughters that they suddenly have lost autonomy over their reproductive organs and human rights. What a time to be alive.

Abortion isn't being outlawed

Citizens get to vote on it again

Hope that helps

[Kaveh]

Sadly no, no drug I make in the lab can fix retard redneck brainwashing.

The republicans have nothing to do with how the constitution was written. Most of them aren’t even literate

I kid, but you’re German and don’t understand our constitution. States get two senators, whining about it is drugs, especially since the constitution can be amended. Why not move here from Germany and vote?

[Reiwa]

41 senators are representing less than 11% of the US population and can block legislation that is supported by the other 59 senators and 89% of the population.

Feature, not bug. That's how we got the little states to join our rebellion.

I don't know how you arrived at an odd number of Senators though. That's odd!

[Kaveh]

Feature, not bug. That's how we got the little states to join our rebellion.

I don't know how you arrived at an odd number of Senators though. That's odd!

Hahaha didn’t notice he had 41 senators. Fucking Germans …

[Botten]

Feature, not bug. That's how we got the little states to join our rebellion.

I don't know how you arrived at an odd number of Senators though. That's odd!

A compromise... after a win. Maybe spoils should have gone to the victors instead.

41 Senators outvote 59 colleagues, reducing the value of the votes cast by each of the 59 losing senators (https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/politics/148607-senate-60-vote-rule-is-an-abuse-of-democracy/)

I suspect Reiwa your love for tangents will stretch this out. I am not interested in quickening your need for intellectual divergence.

[Kaveh]

A compromise... after a win. Maybe spoils should have gone to the victors instead.

41 Senators outvote 59 colleagues, reducing the value of the votes cast by each of the 59 losing senators (https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/politics/148607-senate-60-vote-rule-is-an-abuse-of-democracy/)

I suspect Reiwa your love for tangents will stretch this out. I am not interested in quickening your need for intellectual divergence.

41 senators is “odd” because states each have two senators. We’re confused how you got 41 instead of 40 or 42. We understand the filibuster being 60 and how you arrived at 59, that was taught in third grade. Did they teach you how we curbstomped you and Japan in WW2 and you repaid us by funding Putin? How’s Gerhard Schroeder doing?

[Reiwa]

A compromise... after a win. Maybe spoils should have gone to the victors instead.

41 Senators outvote 59 colleagues, reducing the value of the votes cast by each of the 59 losing senators (https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/politics/148607-senate-60-vote-rule-is-an-abuse-of-democracy/)

I suspect Reiwa your love for tangents will stretch this out. I am not interested in quickening your need for intellectual divergence.

They fought in our cause, they're the victors too!

The 41 thing I figured out you're bitching about the filibuster. So, drugs.

[Reiwa]

Senate is supposed to do that, it's modeled on the House of Lords except way god-damned better. We didn't even get to pick Senators before...1910?

No more idiotic filibuster derails Manchin already said no.

[Botten]

They fought in our cause, they're the victors too!

The 41 thing I figured out you're bitching about the filibuster. So, drugs.

Glad you guys figured out. Night. Got work tomorrow.

[Trexller]

Botten is a german cuck inserting himself in the affairs of americans?

now that's funny stuff.

Botten, if your lights are on, and if your water is warm, and if your car has a full gas tank, and if you're connected to the internet, then you are directly responsible for dead Ukrainians.

[Gatordash]

I heard they are smashing cop cars in California to make sure abortion stays legal there. I’m sure this very smart tactic will be celebrated on cnn, Reddit, and Twitter tomorrow. Great work once again libs.

[Botten]

Botten is a german cuck inserting himself in the affairs of americans?

now that's funny stuff.

Botten, if your lights are on, and if your water is warm, and if your car has a full gas tank, and if you're connected to the internet, then you are directly responsible for dead Ukrainians.

*yawn
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3448246&postcount=70

For a guy from Pennsylvania you don’t read well. Oh that’s right because you are originally from Texas. Probably a really rural part of Texas. Where you y’all take things real slowly. Like learning! :rolleyes:

[New_Guy]

Just because some dudes will go there entire lives without having their penis touched is not a good enough reason to enslave women's bodies without their consent.

If you need her body to produce the child it's not an independent human life, and you are choosing to take a women's free will. This is dark age Spanish inquisition type shit.

[Ooloo]

Ahhhh now it's "independent human life", hey I give you credit for at least attempting to give some kind of specific cut off point!

Unfortunately many of the rest of the lunatics in your party want to be able to chop up 9 month old babies and throw them in a garbage can. To me that's a bit more extreme than saying like, for instance, "how about don't do that?"

[New_Guy]

Ahhhh now it's "independent human life", hey I give you credit for at least attempting to give some kind of specific cut off point!

Unfortunately many of the rest of the lunatics in your party want to be able to chop up 9 month old babies and throw them in a garbage can. To me that's a bit more extreme than saying like, for instance, "how about don't do that?"

This is the perfect example of why voting should require a minimum IQ above 85.

[Elizondo]

haha lefties now eating horse paste so they can kill their babies

hahahaha

https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjby4b/anarchist-collective-shares-instructions-to-make-diy-abortion-pills?utm_source=VICE_Twitter&utm_medium=social+

In the video, Laufer explains that, besides being used to medically induce abortions, misoprostol is also used to treat ulcers in horses. This makes misoprostol powder relatively easy to acquire from veterinary sources. (This is reminiscent of ivermectin, which is used to control parasites in horses but also became a favored—but ineffective—COVID treatment among conspiracy theorists. Ivermectin’s use in horses made it easier for humans to get without a prescription.)

[Reiwa]

haha lefties now eating horse paste so they can kill their babies

hahahaha

https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjby4b/anarchist-collective-shares-instructions-to-make-diy-abortion-pills?utm_source=VICE_Twitter&utm_medium=social+

But why? Plan B is legal in every state?

The Hobby Lobby case was because the company didn't want to pay for it cuz RFR.

[robayon]

Ahhhh now it's "independent human life", hey I give you credit for at least attempting to give some kind of specific cut off pointYeah, I know where yours is: the borders of the United States. Past that, you can ethically bathe in the blood of righteously dead babies since all of those foreign babies don't count as people

Good old Conservative Values

[Reiwa]

Yeah, I know where yours is: the borders of the United States. Past that, you can ethically bathe in the blood of righteously dead babies since all of those foreign babies don't count as people

Good old Conservative Values

Not our fault they use human shields.

[Jibartik]

Just because some dudes will go there entire lives without having their penis touched is not a good enough reason to enslave women's bodies without their consent.

When people talk about politics they compare it to events in their own lives.

[robayon]

Not our fault they use human shields.is that the case for every last one, Reiwa? you know it isn't

[New_Guy]

When people talk about politics they compare it to events in their own lives.

Nobody thinks that the sick fucks who want welfare recipients to starve and who actively vote for candidates that defund poor children at every turn actually gives a fuck about the unborn.

Nobody in the world, not even the fake Christians spouting it, think any of you give a fuck about saving babies.

That's why you want to stop women, even victims of incest and rape, from having a say in the matter.

But where are your proposed plans for new orphanages?

Charites and funds to revamp our outdated and failed adoption and foster system?

Oh that's right you don't actually give a shit about the kids.