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Reiwa
05-04-2022, 11:27 AM
is that the case for every last one, Reiwa? you know it isn't

It's not. But the practice exists, more or less.

The fault is theirs.

Jibartik
05-04-2022, 11:28 AM
Nobody thinks that the sick fucks who want welfare recipients to starve and who actively vote for candidates that defund poor children at every turn actually gives a fuck about the unborn.

Nobody in the world, not even the fake Christians spouting it, think any of you give a fuck about saving babies.

That's why you want to stop women, even victims of incest and rape, from having a say in the matter.

But where are your proposed plans for new orphanages?

Charites and funds to revamp our outdated and failed adoption and foster system?

Oh that's right you don't actually give a shit about the kids.

It’s not my fault your parents took you to that church group.

It’s not my fault you let all of that baggage weigh you down for the rest of your life.

Just because you’ve always wanted to say this to your father doesn’t mean that saying it to me is gonna make you feel any better.

Reiwa
05-04-2022, 11:30 AM
That's why you want to stop women, even victims of incest and rape, from having a say in the matter.

MrSparkle had a clever idea on that. :D

New_Guy
05-04-2022, 11:30 AM
It’s not my fault your parents took you to that church group.

It’s not my fault you let all of that baggage weigh you down for the rest of your life.

Just because you’ve always wanted to say this to your father doesn’t mean that saying it to me is gonna make you feel any better.

Meth

Jibartik
05-04-2022, 11:30 AM
Again another one of your burdens.

I’ve actually never even seen meth with my own eyeballs.

I’m like the one percent compared to you.

robayon
05-04-2022, 11:31 AM
Nobody thinks that the sick fucks who want welfare recipients to starve and who actively vote for candidates that defund poor children at every turn actually gives a fuck about the unborn.

Nobody in the world, not even the fake Christians spouting it, think any of you give a fuck about saving babies.

That's why you want to stop women, even victims of incest and rape, from having a say in the matter.

But where are your proposed plans for new orphanages?

Charites and funds to revamp our outdated and failed adoption and foster system?

Oh that's right you don't actually give a shit about the kids.The right wing on this board told me that unless I was personally willing and able to shelter illegal immigrants, my opinions on the border were irrelevant

So this obviously also means that unless conservatives are personally willing to adopt the babies that people will have who otherwise wouldn't have, they have to adopt those babies

Hypocrites

New_Guy
05-04-2022, 11:32 AM
Again another one of your burdens.

I’ve actually never even seen meth with my own eyeballs.

I’m like the one percent compared to you.

I imagine this is what an aneurysm looks like in text format.

Jibartik
05-04-2022, 11:34 AM
How does that make sense?

red_demonman
05-04-2022, 11:34 AM
Nobody thinks that the sick fucks who want welfare recipients to starve and who actively vote for candidates that defund poor children at every turn actually gives a fuck about the unborn.

Nobody in the world, not even the fake Christians spouting it, think any of you give a fuck about saving babies.

That's why you want to stop women, even victims of incest and rape, from having a say in the matter.

But where are your proposed plans for new orphanages?

Charites and funds to revamp our outdated and failed adoption and foster system?

Oh that's right you don't actually give a shit about the kids.

This is an bad argument. Killing children in the womb is wrong. Because the future of that child may not be amazing (which is undetermined) does not make it ok to kill them.

Jibartik
05-04-2022, 11:36 AM
It’s also literally eugenics and population control it’s the stupidest pathetic shit I’ve ever heard and they’ve been parroting it for 50 years.

robayon
05-04-2022, 11:37 AM
It's not. But the practice exists, more or less.

The fault is theirs.Yeah, those fuckers should just throw their kids aside and let us incinerate them, how dare they try to prevent their own deaths!

robayon
05-04-2022, 11:39 AM
This is an bad argument. Killing children in the womb is wrong. Because the future of that child may not be amazing (which is undetermined) does not make it ok to kill them.Tell that to the kids American weapons kill

Also, kinda chilling that you made the distinction "killing children in the womb" is wrong

New_Guy
05-04-2022, 11:40 AM
This is an bad argument. Killing children in the womb is wrong. Because the future of that child may not be amazing (which is undetermined) does not make it ok to kill them.

I think it's funny you said argue and then proceeded to spout batshit Christian moronic idiocy that proved you are of inbred levels of intellectual discourse incapable of debating via critical thought.

You can't argue with a fruitloop sucking the dick of a fake skyfairy and using a bedtime story as their sole justification.

Jibartik
05-04-2022, 11:41 AM
New guy there isn’t one religious reference in the post you quoted you’re delusional and talking about your dad again.

Reiwa
05-04-2022, 11:44 AM
Yeah, those fuckers should just throw their kids aside and let us incinerate them

MrSparkle001
05-04-2022, 11:45 AM
I think it's funny you said argue and then proceeded to spout batshit Christian moronic idiocy that proved you are of inbred levels of intellectual discourse incapable of debating via critical thought.

You can't argue with a fruitloop sucking the dick of a fake skyfairy and using a bedtime story as their sole justification.

Irony at its finest here folks.

And you seem preoccupied with penises.

bomaroast
05-04-2022, 11:48 AM
Just because some dudes will go there entire lives without having their penis touched is not a good enough reason to enslave women's bodies without their consent.

If you need her body to produce the child it's not an independent human life, and you are choosing to take a women's free will. This is dark age Spanish inquisition type shit.

"Don't have sex if you're not willing to suffer the consequences." The entirety of my life I've been hearing this phrase told to men wanting to avoid child support.

I'm all for bringing some equality to the sexes. Let women have the equality they so deeply crave.

New_Guy
05-04-2022, 11:50 AM
Irony at its finest here folks.

And you seem preoccupied with penises.

The irony is trying to claim the moral highground for saving babies while taking away women's free will and forcing them into a broodmare lifestyle.

So slavery is fine, but abortion is an abomination, now that's some irony!

Jibartik
05-04-2022, 11:52 AM
Nothing screams InCell like saying that pregnancy is slavery.

New_Guy
05-04-2022, 11:53 AM
"Don't have sex if you're not willing to suffer the consequences." The entirety of my life I've been hearing this phrase told to men wanting to avoid supporting a child.

I call bullshit, you'd first have to have sex before you have to worry about pregnancy's and you scream unfuckable incel from a bullhorn.

MrSparkle001
05-04-2022, 11:54 AM
"Don't have sex if you're not willing to suffer the consequences." The entirety of my life I've been hearing this phrase told to men wanting to avoid child support.

Like I said yesterday:

Man: I want to keep the baby.
Woman: No, it's my body and I want to abort. You have NO say in this.

Man: I want to abort the baby.
Woman: No, I want to keep it and you have to pay child support. You have NO say in this.

Jibartik
05-04-2022, 11:54 AM
Well that latest new guy quote screams at a little bit more.

New_Guy
05-04-2022, 11:56 AM
Nothing screams InCell like saying that pregnancy is slavery.

No exception for incest or rape in many states regardless of victims ages so yea I think an 11 year old girl forced to carry her dads baby to term is forced slavey only a sick lil incel like yourself would defend ya dickless walking shitstain.

robayon
05-04-2022, 12:01 PM
Hey, question for the fellas that aren't incels or volcels or whatever: if they ever have that male birth control out in stores and you can afford it and all, would you take it?

MrSparkle001
05-04-2022, 12:02 PM
The irony is trying to claim the moral highground for saving babies while taking away women's free will and forcing them into a broodmare lifestyle.

So slavery is fine, but abortion is an abomination, now that's some irony!

The free will is having sex knowing it can potentially result in a new human being. If they're being forced then it's rape.

And I am genuinely worried that were will be many more false rape allegations in the future to justify abortions. It's a serious potential upcoming problem.

No civilized society should consider abortion as anything but an abomination except in extreme cases like the mother's life is in jeopardy or rape. Never, never for birth control. Never. I'm anti death penalty as well.

bomaroast
05-04-2022, 12:03 PM
Once we're all dead, we'll all be incels.. and New_Guy will be right after all.

MrSparkle001
05-04-2022, 12:03 PM
Hey, question for the fellas that aren't incels or volcels or whatever: if they ever have that male birth control out in stores and you can afford it and all, would you take it?

Oh hell yeah, so long as it's clinically proven to work. No conception = no new human being. Would be best if she was taking it as well just to make sure.

Reiwa
05-04-2022, 12:05 PM
Hey, question for the fellas that aren't incels or volcels or whatever: if they ever have that male birth control out in stores and you can afford it and all, would you take it?

I would but hard to make effective because millions vs 1

Poor little ovum.

New_Guy
05-04-2022, 12:10 PM
The free will is having sex knowing it can potentially result in a new human being. If they're being forced then it's rape.

And I am genuinely worried that were will be many more false rape allegations in the future to justify abortions. It's a serious potential upcoming problem.

No civilized society should consider abortion as anything but an abomination except in extreme cases like the mother's life is in jeopardy or rape. Never, never for birth control. Never. I'm anti death penalty as well.

The minute you said free will is having sex you outed yourself as an unfuckable incel.

New_Guy
05-04-2022, 12:12 PM
Once we're all dead, we'll all be incels.. and New_Guy will be right after all.

It's not me the whole world literally thinks anti abortionist are wretched unfuckable people, that's just real talk. Your dating pool is limited to other christian freakadoos in your immediate area, usually family members, hence how you got your reasoning skills.

bomaroast
05-04-2022, 12:12 PM
Exhausting New_Guy. You have fun with that.

New_Guy
05-04-2022, 12:15 PM
Exhausting New_Guy. You have fun with that.

Your penis was not meant to be merely ornamental.

MrSparkle001
05-04-2022, 12:20 PM
The minute you said free will is having sex you outed yourself as an unfuckable incel.

I can guarantee you I've had more in the past month than you've had in the past year. The simple fact that you seem preoccupied with sex and putting others down for a supposed lack of it tells me all I need to know.

robayon
05-04-2022, 12:22 PM
I would but hard to make effective because millions vs 1

Poor little ovum.what if the male birth control pill made you cum just 1 giant sperm, like a potato gun shooting out a tadpole

Jibartik
05-04-2022, 12:24 PM
No exception for incest or rape in many states regardless of victims ages

Who told you this, your dad?

Reiwa
05-04-2022, 12:45 PM
what if the male birth control pill made you cum just 1 giant sperm, like a potato gun shooting out a tadpole

https://i.imgur.com/5TWoScP.gif

Jibartik
05-04-2022, 12:46 PM
I literally thought thats what it was before I pubertied. Like it would flop around like a fish if you dared to risk hairy palms.

Ooloo
05-04-2022, 12:49 PM
is that the case for every last one, Reiwa? you know it isn't

itt rob still doesn't understand the obvious moral difference between killing perfectly healthy babies on purpose cause it's convenient, and killing a baby by accident in a warzone cause he lives nextdoor to a terrorist who is firing rockets at other innocent children. Both are obviously horrible, but it doesnt even remotely come close to the mass murder of babies, on purpose, for profit often that is abortion. Like, duh.

robayon
05-04-2022, 12:52 PM
itt rob still doesn't understand the obvious moral difference between killing perfectly healthy babies on purpose cause it's convenient, and killing a baby by accident in a warzone cause he lives nextdoor to a terrorist. Both are obviously horrible, but it doesnt even remotely come close to the mass murder of babies, on purpose, for profit often. Like, duh.What about the ones that aren't accidents, Ooloo? There's a hell of a lot of those, in addition to the mountain of corpses that are "accidents". For profit, even.

New_Guy
05-04-2022, 12:54 PM
I can guarantee you I've had more in the past month than you've had in the past year. The simple fact that you seem preoccupied with sex and putting others down for a supposed lack of it tells me all I need to know.

Taking a magic marker to your hand and fucking it only qualifies as: "getting some" in inceltown.

Other men can tell when they are talking to an unfuckable whose dick went on to star in the amateur film version of castaway.

Kaveh
05-04-2022, 12:55 PM
itt rob still doesn't understand the obvious moral difference between killing perfectly healthy babies on purpose cause it's convenient, and killing a baby by accident in a warzone cause he lives nextdoor to a terrorist who is firing rockets at other innocent children. Both are obviously horrible, but it doesnt even remotely come close to the mass murder of babies, on purpose, for profit often that is abortion. Like, duh.

You think people are so cold that they have abortions for convenience ? Cmon man

Jibartik
05-04-2022, 12:56 PM
That's the entire argument for benefits of abortions!

New_Guy
05-04-2022, 12:58 PM
I can guarantee you I've had more in the past month than you've had in the past year. The simple fact that you seem preoccupied with sex and putting others down for a supposed lack of it tells me all I need to know.

You want to tell women what to do with their own bodies and give them no choice to their own reproductive health, no shit I'm putting you down you Nazi fuck, I'm glad your retarded melon was able to glean that obvious truth because I was laying it down pretty thick you fuckless halfwit.

Jibartik
05-04-2022, 12:59 PM
Where is Loramin, I demand he speak out against the above generalization!

Rethalis
05-04-2022, 01:00 PM
Does anybody else think it's weird women come here to try to have an anchor baby to make their lives better while women here think killing their child will make their lives better?

New_Guy
05-04-2022, 01:01 PM
That's the entire argument for benefits of abortions!

Main argument for abortions is that women are humans with free will that should make their own choices with their doctors, I don't think a bunch of faggot incels who never touched a breast should tell women what they can or can't do because they were too fucking stupid to question a bedtime story.

bomaroast
05-04-2022, 01:02 PM
I don't know about you but I came into consciousness missing a piece of skin off the end of my dick. I wasn't given much choice there. Can we get mad about that too? Please don't forget to call me an incel.

New_Guy
05-04-2022, 01:05 PM
I don't know about you but I came into consciousness missing a piece of skin off the end of my dick. I wasn't given much choice there. Can we get mad about that too? Please don't forget to call me an incel.

Might as well loped off the whole thing for all the good it's gonna do ya. :D

Elizondo
05-04-2022, 01:07 PM
You want to tell women what to do with their own bodies and give them no choice to their own reproductive health, no shit I'm putting you down you Nazi fuck, I'm glad your retarded melon was able to glean that obvious truth because I was laying it down pretty thick you fuckless halfwit.

Abortion isn't being banned you horse paste eating Groomer

robayon
05-04-2022, 01:11 PM
You think people are so cold that they have abortions for convenience ? Cmon manOoloo is probably the biggest liar on the forums. Can't even tell himself the truth, that's why he dodges tough questions

He thinks this makes him good at arguing because The Daily Wire has warped his ability to tell facts from opinions

New_Guy
05-04-2022, 01:13 PM
Abortion isn't being banned you horse paste eating Groomer

I love when they run to repeat talking points they don't even understand, if you've been borderline retarded fuckton stupid all your life, finding a meme won't suddenly change that.

MrSparkle001
05-04-2022, 01:21 PM
You want to tell women what to do with their own bodies and give them no choice to their own reproductive health, no shit I'm putting you down you Nazi fuck, I'm glad your retarded melon was able to glean that obvious truth because I was laying it down pretty thick you fuckless halfwit.

https://i.imgur.com/8GIy2Df.jpg

Gatordash
05-04-2022, 01:23 PM
You want to tell women what to do with their own bodies and give them no choice to their own reproductive health, no shit I'm putting you down you Nazi fuck, I'm glad your retarded melon was able to glean that obvious truth because I was laying it down pretty thick you fuckless halfwit.

17632

robayon
05-04-2022, 01:27 PM
17632Nice to see someone other than Ooloo arguing against a point absolutely no one was making and then high fiving themselves for a job well done

MrSparkle001
05-04-2022, 01:29 PM
Nice to see someone other than Ooloo arguing against a point absolutely no one was making and then high fiving themselves for a job well done

How about this: if women have the right to abort a baby because they don't want it men have the right to refuse child support because they don't want it?

Elizondo
05-04-2022, 01:31 PM
I love when they run to repeat talking points they don't even understand, if you've been borderline retarded fuckton stupid all your life, finding a meme won't suddenly change that.

b4rFWdWR8CI

robayon
05-04-2022, 01:45 PM
How about this: if women have the right to abort a baby because they don't want it men have the right to refuse child support because they don't want it?Yes, if this keeps abortion legal and available, I'd support such a system. Sounds okay. Plenty of men already find ways to dodge child support anyways, and if we actually had socialized healthcare it would probably broadly be less necessary. Great idea!

red_demonman
05-04-2022, 01:47 PM
You think people are so cold that they have abortions for convenience ? Cmon man

Sadly they are. If you don't believe me look at the Guttmacher institute's study (Page 4, Table 2):
https://www.guttmacher.org/sites/default/files/pdfs/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf

Gatordash
05-04-2022, 01:58 PM
Nice to see someone other than Ooloo arguing against a point absolutely no one was making and then high fiving themselves for a job well done

lol I quoted the guy making the argument. I know picture books are easier but text is important too Rob

robayon
05-04-2022, 02:04 PM
lol I quoted the guy making the argument. I know picture books are easier but text is important too RobI must have missed the part where the claim 'men can get pregnant' was made, but I'm allergic to the back button so I guess I'll just have to wonder

Kaveh
05-04-2022, 02:10 PM
Sadly they are. If you don't believe me look at the Guttmacher institute's study (Page 4, Table 2):
https://www.guttmacher.org/sites/default/files/pdfs/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf

I’m not gonna lie to you man, I’m employed so I can’t read 9 pages from something called the Guttmacher Institute, but on page one:

“The research into U.S. women’s reasons for having abor- tions has been limited. In a 1985 study of 500 women in Kansas, unreadiness to parent was the reason most often given for having an abortion, followed by lack of financial resources and absence of a partner.”

I don’t equate those with convenience. However, I admit I only read page one so if you can tell me or show me which parts of that study, assuming it’s a reputable source, tells
Me about convenience I’m willing to change my mind. Unlike most of you, I’m a centrist fiscal conservative and have voted both ways. I welcome the information to change my mind

Kaveh
05-04-2022, 02:14 PM
https://i.imgur.com/8GIy2Df.jpg

I lol’d

MrSparkle001
05-04-2022, 02:34 PM
17632

https://i.imgur.com/7tc81wb.jpg

Castle2.0
05-04-2022, 02:37 PM
https://i.imgur.com/7tc81wb.jpg

How do you know an ideology/worldview is wrong/bad?

It is self-defeating.

robayon
05-04-2022, 02:38 PM
How do you know an ideology/worldview is wrong/bad?

It is self-defeating.Let us now consider climate change and capitalism in this light heh

MrSparkle001
05-04-2022, 02:43 PM
Let us now consider climate change and capitalism in this light heh

Communism is what seems self-defeating, and climate change isn't an ideology/worldview, just contested because some peoples' idea of solving it are merely clever ways to profit from it (carbon credits anyone?).

Kaveh
05-04-2022, 02:47 PM
Let us now consider climate change and capitalism in this light heh

My brother in law had a bad stress test and his mom died at 51 of a stroke, insurance denied the heart cath his cardiologist recommended

I paid for it out of pocket and it was about $27,000. 90% occlusion of one coronary and 95% for another. He got stents placed and insurance covered that!!!!

Anyway, I wonder what happens if this dude didn’t have me? We just let him die of a heart attack??? His son is a radiologist but hates him because he did drugs and cheated on his mom (my sister) and so he was just like let his ass die

Cmon man!

Jibartik
05-04-2022, 03:12 PM
we live in hell

red_demonman
05-04-2022, 03:12 PM
I’m not gonna lie to you man, I’m employed so I can’t read 9 pages from something called the Guttmacher Institute, but on page one:

“The research into U.S. women’s reasons for having abor- tions has been limited. In a 1985 study of 500 women in Kansas, unreadiness to parent was the reason most often given for having an abortion, followed by lack of financial resources and absence of a partner.”

I don’t equate those with convenience. However, I admit I only read page one so if you can tell me or show me which parts of that study, assuming it’s a reputable source, tells
Me about convenience I’m willing to change my mind. Unlike most of you, I’m a centrist fiscal conservative and have voted both ways. I welcome the information to change my mind

The organization itself is is a sister organization to Planned Parenthood and certainly doesn't have incentive to drive a narrative that abortions are done out of convenience, they would likely want to prove the opposite. From their "About Us" you can infer they would have a left-leaning bias. It's all on their website.

Anyways, decide for yourself where the "convenience" line is as they break down a lot of detailed reasons in Table 4. Appreciate that you are willing to change your mind as that is not often seen in this debate.

Jibartik
05-04-2022, 03:15 PM
If you get an abortion its because it wasn't a convenient time to have a baby how is this even a discussion.

Trexller
05-04-2022, 03:24 PM
treating people like people is the first mistake.

if you can't pull out, or you can't keep your legs together, then you're little more than an animal. like a rabbit, or a dog, you're a collection of cells that operates on instinct.

So check this out my friends:

I propose Free Government Subsidized Abortions for Anyone, Anytime, Anywhere.

Your free taxpayer funded abortion, comes with Mandatory Sterilization.

Fool me once, shame on you, Fool me twice, Shame on me.

Botten
05-04-2022, 04:08 PM
treating people like people is the first mistake.

if you can't pull out, or you can't keep your legs together, then you're little more than an animal. like a rabbit, or a dog, you're a collection of cells that operates on instinct.

So check this out my friends:

I propose Free Government Subsidized Abortions for Anyone, Anytime, Anywhere.

Your free taxpayer funded abortion, comes with Mandatory Sterilization.

Fool me once, shame on you, Fool me twice, Shame on me.

In U.S. politics, the Hyde Amendment is a legislative provision barring the use of federal funds to pay for abortion, except to save the life of the woman, or if the pregnancy arises from incest or rape.

you alt right crazy.



And red_demonman you better believe abortion is convenient now. If you watch/read some of the original court cases. The issue of woman being turned to back ally abortions was real and the concern of well being of the mother and not just the child was an issue. This compelling argument alone made some of the justices realize that the death of the child was going to take place and now it was a case of whether the mother would be lost too in these dirty circumstances. It truly was an issue with single hyped up society expectations with hormonal confusion to lead to some very grim outcomes.

Trexller
05-04-2022, 04:14 PM
the hyde amendment would go away real fast if abortions required sterilization.

also, thanks for supporting putin by using energy in germany, Botten.

Horza
05-04-2022, 04:22 PM
the hyde amendment would go away real fast if abortions required sterilization.

also, thanks for supporting putin by using energy in germany, Botten.

No way that it gets repealed with less than 60 Democrats in the Senate or getting rid of the filibuster, regardless of your Fox News fever dreams about sterilizing minorities.

Botten
05-04-2022, 04:24 PM
the hyde amendment would go away real fast if abortions required sterilization.

also, thanks for supporting putin by using energy in germany, Botten.

You go on with your alt right fascist ultimatums; but not too crazy!

You handling your multi-personality better? You were a little antisemitic there for a while.
I saw your secondary account has gone silent now after you were outed answering your own posts. That must have been pretty awkward, huh?

Make sure you keep on those med little buddy.

Castle2.0
05-04-2022, 04:48 PM
No way that it gets repealed with less than 60 Democrats in the Senate or getting rid of the filibuster, regardless of your Fox News fever dreams about sterilizing minorities.

Sterilizing minorities? You are starting to sound like the racist, eugenics-promoting Democrat who founded Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger.

Trexller
05-04-2022, 04:58 PM
No way that it gets repealed with less than 60 Democrats in the Senate or getting rid of the filibuster, regardless of your Fox News fever dreams about sterilizing minorities.

please quote the post where i said to sterilize minorities

if you posessed skills in reading comprehension, you would realize that im saying to sterilize literally everyone who gets an abortion regardless of race creed breakfast food preference or even gender!

my brand of fascim is 100% inclusive, nobody gets special treatment.

Elizondo
05-04-2022, 05:00 PM
No way that it gets repealed with less than 60 Democrats in the Senate or getting rid of the filibuster, regardless of your Fox News fever dreams about sterilizing minorities.

lol


Just lol ....

WOOPS!

unsunghero
05-04-2022, 05:00 PM
Sterilizing minorities? You are starting to sound like the racist, eugenics-promoting Democrat who founded Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger.

Based on abortion usage I’d say Dems want much fewer poor black babies and many more rich white babies

Kaveh
05-04-2022, 05:04 PM
If you get an abortion its because it wasn't a convenient time to have a baby how is this even a discussion.

Is rape convenient or are you being obtuse?? Cmon man!

Kaveh
05-04-2022, 05:04 PM
If you get an abortion its because it wasn't a convenient time to have a baby how is this even a discussion.

The organization itself is is a sister organization to Planned Parenthood and certainly doesn't have incentive to drive a narrative that abortions are done out of convenience, they would likely want to prove the opposite. From their "About Us" you can infer they would have a left-leaning bias. It's all on their website.

Anyways, decide for yourself where the "convenience" line is as they break down a lot of detailed reasons in Table 4. Appreciate that you are willing to change your mind as that is not often seen in this debate.

I’ll check in after work & gym

-BigTex

Jibartik
05-04-2022, 05:07 PM
When getting an abortion is not for convinence:
-save life of monther
-rape

Thats it, no other reason is anything but convincence.

Jibartik
05-04-2022, 05:09 PM
Is rape convenient or are you being obtuse?? Cmon man!

There are not 900k rape babies per year in america.

Botten
05-04-2022, 05:10 PM
Based on abortion usage I’d say Dems want much fewer poor black babies and many more rich white babies

Only getting rid of Roe vs Wade is meant to create more white conservative babies.

Kaveh
05-04-2022, 05:11 PM
Source?


You guys like speaking in absolutes, for God, and without facts

I appreciate homeboy posting a table with statistics. It is comforting that at least some of you learned PowerPoint

The rest of you cmon man!

Botten
05-04-2022, 05:11 PM
Based on abortion usage I’d say Dems want much fewer poor black babies and many more rich white babies

Only getting rid of Roe v Wade is meant to create more white conservative babies.

New_Guy
05-04-2022, 05:12 PM
When getting an abortion is not for convinence:
-save life of monther
-rape

Thats it, no other reason is anything but convincence.

If you really want to prove your conviction you should chop off your dick and get a vagina, I would take you super serious if you had a vagina!

toolshed
05-04-2022, 05:13 PM
When getting an abortion is not for convinence:
-save life of monther
-rape

Thats it, no other reason is anything but convincence.

"Convenience" is a weird way of saying that people should have privacy from the government to decide their own life; the freedom and liberty that comes from bodily autonomy is not a 'convenience'

New_Guy
05-04-2022, 05:22 PM
Pretty sure the personification of evil always started with an unaffected group deciding what freedoms others should have.

Horza
05-04-2022, 05:24 PM
please quote the post where i said to sterilize minorities

if you posessed skills in reading comprehension, you would realize that im saying to sterilize literally everyone who gets an abortion regardless of race creed breakfast food preference or even gender!

my brand of fascim is 100% inclusive, nobody gets special treatment.

What happened to you guys being the party of small government? I'm not sure how well that jives with forcibly sterilizing everyone.

bomaroast
05-04-2022, 05:27 PM
What happened to you guys being the party of small government? I'm not sure how well that jives with forcibly sterilizing everyone.

Is that what he said? No, it isn't.

Trexller
05-04-2022, 05:31 PM
What happened to you guys being the party of small government? I'm not sure how well that jives with forcibly sterilizing everyone.

yeah you just pray and hope that actual racism exists, because if it doesn't, they you cannot otherwise validate your existence.

im alot more of a federalist on one hand, but super facist on the other

not to worry, the ministry of truth will explain that in a way that makes sense

INGSOC FTW

Horza
05-04-2022, 05:32 PM
Why do you guys want the government to forcibly sterilize anyone while also celebrating making abortion more inaccessible? I can't keep up with these conservative revenge fantasies.

bomaroast
05-04-2022, 05:41 PM
Why do you guys want the government to forcibly sterilize anyone while also celebrating making abortion more inaccessible? I can't keep up with these conservative revenge fantasies.

Reading comprehension is getting more rare as attention spans get shorter.

Horza
05-04-2022, 05:47 PM
Fox News hosts say Kavanaugh was justified in lying about his position on Roe because he was accused of sexual assault. (https://twitter.com/aliciasadowski6/status/1521967586879102976)

bomaroast
05-04-2022, 05:53 PM
Damn a judge for listening to an argument and changing their mind. Damn them!

Botten
05-04-2022, 05:53 PM
Fox News hosts say Kavanaugh was justified in lying about his position on Roe because he was accused of sexual assault. (https://twitter.com/aliciasadowski6/status/1521967586879102976)

Wonder if Foxnews feels the two conservative justices should be absolved of the rapes they committed too. Republicans should be so proud.

unsunghero
05-04-2022, 06:01 PM
Only getting rid of Roe v Wade is meant to create more white conservative babies.

Uh, false

“In 2008, the abortion rate for non-Hispanic White women was 12 abortions per 1000 reproductive-age women, compared with 29 per 1000 for Hispanic women, and 40 per 1000 for non-Hispanic Black women.2 Disparities in abortion rates also exist by socioeconomic status (SES), with women with incomes less than 100% of the federal poverty level (FPL) having an abortion rate of 52 abortions per 1000 reproductive-age women, compared with a rate of 9 per 1000 among those with incomes greater than 200% FPL. In analyses assessing both income and race/ethnicity, both are independently associated with abortion rates.2”

This is just the first source I bothered to click on. Fairly certain the highest utilizer of abortions when normalized for population size is poor black people

You don’t have to admit you want fewer poor black babies and more rich white babies, it doesn’t matter. Either way that’s the result whether you want it or not

Botten
05-04-2022, 06:11 PM
Uh, false


Nope! Already researched. It is to get more white voters. Sorry.

https://youtu.be/NiFSA0uM5qQ

unsunghero
05-04-2022, 06:16 PM
Nope! Already researched. It is to get more white voters. Sorry.

https://youtu.be/NiFSA0uM5qQ

Not going to bother because I know it’s only because it’s not normalized for population size

There’s many times more white people in the USA than black. How this is news to you is beyond me

More proof:

“Almost three-quarters of all abortions in 2019 were in Blacks and white women. Black women had the highest rate — almost 24 abortions per 1,000 women; white women had the lowest, at almost 7 per 1,000 women. The CDC data on race is from 30 areas that reported race and ethnicity.”

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Health/wireStory/us-abortion-trends-changed-landmark-1973-ruling-84474274

Elizondo
05-04-2022, 06:21 PM
Fox News hosts say Kavanaugh was justified in lying about his position on Roe because he was accused of sexual assault. (https://twitter.com/aliciasadowski6/status/1521967586879102976)

Kavanaugh didn't lie about his position on Roe, Paste Eater

He merely acknowledged that it was the law of that land with 'important precedent'. It doesn't mean he wouldn't vote to overturn it

Botten
05-04-2022, 06:23 PM
Not going to bother because I know it’s only because it’s not normalized for population size

There’s many times more white people in the USA than black. How this is news to you is beyond me

More proof:

“Almost three-quarters of all abortions in 2019 were in Blacks and white women. Black women had the highest rate — almost 24 abortions per 1,000 women; white women had the lowest, at almost 7 per 1,000 women. The CDC data on race is from 30 areas that reported race and ethnicity.”

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Health/wireStory/us-abortion-trends-changed-landmark-1973-ruling-84474274

Sorry your research is even close to being equivalent

https://youtu.be/NiFSA0uM5qQ

unsunghero
05-04-2022, 06:26 PM
Sorry your research is even close to being equivalent

https://youtu.be/NiFSA0uM5qQ

My research was from the cdc, yours is from a YouTube video hosted by a comedian

Is this discussion a comedy special? Am I being punked?

unsunghero
05-04-2022, 06:27 PM
I wonder if I could post entire pages of proof

Botten
05-04-2022, 06:28 PM
Kavanaugh didn't lie about his position on Roe, Paste Eater

He merely acknowledged that it was the law of that land with 'important precedent'. It doesn't mean he wouldn't vote to overturn it

Was this when he admit to bisexual pyramid sword fights proposed on his calendar. I mean man he was admittedly pretty drunk.

Botten
05-04-2022, 06:30 PM
My research was from the cdc, yours is from a YouTube video hosted by a comedian

Is this discussion a comedy special? Am I being punked?

Hey consider the research already done. It is only fair. For crying out loud it is in video format. We have to listen to Foxnews parroted here.

Horza
05-04-2022, 06:33 PM
Kavanaugh didn't lie about his position on Roe, Paste Eater

He merely acknowledged that it was the law of that land with 'important precedent'. It doesn't mean he wouldn't vote to overturn it

We must have very different concepts of what constitutes lying, but the damage to the court's reputation and legitimacy is irreparable.

unsunghero
05-04-2022, 06:34 PM
Hey consider the research already done. It is only fair.

Every single site google shows says poor black women are the highest utilizers of abortions when normalized for population size. I can’t find a single source that says otherwise, not from a few years ago or decades ago. I’m talking pages upon pages of data all showing the same thing

I don’t consider John Oliver a legitimate source but if you have an actual one I’m all ears (or eyes, technically)

I do consider it ironic that these liberal articles are saying black women have the most to LOSE if abortion rights are removed

As the highest utilizers, technically abortion is a handy tool to give the weaker races (according to abortion proponents) and poorest citizens a means to end their bloodline so that the rich white women’s babies will continue and flourish while the poor black ones will not

So technically, from a Darwin sort of survival of the fittest perspective, abortion is eugenics to ensure the weaker of the human species dies out. That’s what I consider “losing” on a larger scale…

Botten
05-04-2022, 06:37 PM
Every single site google shows says poor black women are the highest utilizers of abortions when normalized for population size. I can’t find a single source that says otherwise, not from a few years ago or decades ago. I’m talking pages upon pages of data all showing the same thing

I don’t consider John Oliver a legitimate source but if you have an actual one I’m all ears (or eyes, technically)

I do consider it ironic that these liberal articles are saying black women have the most to LOSE if abortion rights are removed

As the highest utilizers, technically abortion is a handy tool to give the weaker races (according to abortion proponents) and poorest citizens a means to end their bloodline so that the rich white women’s babies will continue and flourish while the poor black ones will not

So technically, from a Darwin sort of survival of the fittest perspective, abortion is eugenics to ensure the weaker of the human species dies out. That’s what I consider “losing” on a larger scale…

https://youtu.be/NiFSA0uM5qQ

Sorry man. You aren’t correct.

Jibartik
05-04-2022, 06:38 PM
We must have very different concepts of what constitutes lying, but the damage to the court's reputation and legitimacy is irreparable.

This is the real threat to our democracy.

You’re gonna sit here and say one of the three branches of our government doesn’t work and you’re gonna say that it’s the other people that are trying to destroy our democracy?

You’re gonna sit here and tell me that a conspiracy that you can’t identify managed to put secret agents who you have no evidence of to work to create a fascist resem in this country.

That is ironically the exact same stupid argument the Russia gate three-year impeachment trial tried to insinuate happen with the election.

unsunghero
05-04-2022, 06:40 PM
https://youtu.be/NiFSA0uM5qQ

Sorry man. You aren’t correct.

Me: offers multiple sources from the cdc, multiple LIBERAL news articles, NIH.gov articles

Botten: continues to link the same John Oliver comedy special


At this point I consider it a waste of my time to discuss it further

Jibartik
05-04-2022, 06:42 PM
The left is worried about our democracy yet they think that there is a secret agency of fascist red skull agents that rule over one third of our government.

Botten
05-04-2022, 06:45 PM
Me: offers multiple sources from the cdc, multiple LIBERAL news articles, NIH.gov articles

Botten: continues to link the same John Oliver comedy special


At this point I consider it a waste of my time to discuss it further

Yes it is because those same facts but more equally valid facts are in the video. Sorry you feel comedians can’t do journalism or report on something that you are misunderstanding.

Agree to disagree then.

unsunghero
05-04-2022, 06:53 PM
Yes it is because those same facts but more equally valid facts are in the video. Sorry you feel comedians can’t do journalism or report on something that you are misunderstanding.

Agree to disagree then.

No I think that not only should abortions be legal, but we should do as much as we can to make them as accessible as possible to the poor black community. Triple the number of planned parenthoods in poor black neighborhoods, put one in every high school in black-majority cities. Remind poor black mothers all the benefits of ending their ancestral line

After all, doing anything less would be misogynist AND racist

/s

Elizondo
05-04-2022, 06:55 PM
We must have very different concepts of what constitutes lying, but the damage to the court's reputation and legitimacy is irreparable.

Explain how Kavanaugh "lied"

IN DETAIL

Jibartik
05-04-2022, 07:03 PM
Everything the left says it’s just made up ridiculous nonsense it really is like all life begins when you breathe the fucking first breath into the fucking mouth of the body like the Bible says that’s the kind of shit the fucking left says now I swear to God.

I like the establishment better when they at least combed their hair.

Kaveh
05-04-2022, 07:10 PM
^like the Bible says

“Has nothing to do with religion”

Whatever dude, cmon man!

Trexller
05-04-2022, 07:19 PM
Explain how Kavanaugh "lied"

IN DETAIL

when has horza effectively explained anything at all?

you're tryin to get blood from a stone bro

Jibartik
05-04-2022, 07:24 PM
^like the Bible says

“Has nothing to do with religion”

Whatever dude, cmon man!

The Bible has abortion instructions in it and says life starts at the first breath.

SCIENCE says it’s at the construction of your unique gnome: at conception

All pro abortion arguments are based off religion: because YOU have a religious belief about it.

GOD I HATE THE ESTABLISHMENT!!! It’s SO DUMB!!

Jibartik
05-04-2022, 07:26 PM
when has horza effectively explained anything at all?

you're tryin to get blood from a stone bro

He explained very clearly that when he was telling me to kill myself he very really meant everyone would be happier here if I did.

Trexller
05-04-2022, 07:32 PM
He explained very clearly that when he was telling me to kill myself he very really meant everyone would be happier here if I did.

thats just projection tho.

all the libtards hate their very being, such that their internal angst bleeds thru in their divisive politics.

what horza described as his wish for you, is his own internal struggle to find a place in the world

Reiwa
05-04-2022, 07:33 PM
when normalized for population size

We shouldn't normalize per capita.

Jibartik
05-04-2022, 07:34 PM
I just can’t believe this day and age someone would get online and try to encourage me to commit suicide.

Elizondo
05-04-2022, 07:36 PM
when has horza effectively explained anything at all?

you're tryin to get blood from a stone bro

Don't worry, I'm not holding my breath

Jibartik
05-04-2022, 07:40 PM
Source?


You guys like speaking in absolutes, for God, and without facts

I appreciate homeboy posting a table with statistics. It is comforting that at least some of you learned PowerPoint

The rest of you cmon man!

are you asking me for a source on the yearly abortion rate?

Reiwa
05-04-2022, 07:41 PM
Explain how Kavanaugh "lied"

IN DETAIL

He said 'deference' and IANAL. Me not grasping his full meaning is him lying.

Jibartik
05-04-2022, 08:01 PM
https://i.imgur.com/B1pUfrX.png
https://i.imgur.com/kwiegJA.png

New_Guy
05-04-2022, 08:46 PM
https://i.imgur.com/B1pUfrX.png
https://i.imgur.com/kwiegJA.png

Don't see what's wrong with that I thought Republicans loved rape? Oh black men, got it.

Jibartik
05-04-2022, 08:47 PM
Its ok I get it, you dont have a penis.

Jibartik
05-04-2022, 08:51 PM
https://i.imgur.com/C4JwsZa.png

:o

Elizondo
05-04-2022, 08:54 PM
Don't see what's wrong with that I thought Republicans loved rape? Oh black men, got it.

Hint: She's not a Republican you paste eating retard

Horza
05-04-2022, 08:59 PM
thats just projection tho.

all the libtards hate their very being, such that their internal angst bleeds thru in their divisive politics.

what horza described as his wish for you, is his own internal struggle to find a place in the world

The truth hurts sometimes (daily reminder that Trump lost embarrassingly badly).

Jibartik
05-04-2022, 09:06 PM
actually in a super close election, with the largest turnout in history

#greatestInsperation #MadeAmericaVoteAgain #USA #DonaldJ

Horza
05-04-2022, 09:08 PM
When your obese messiah beat Hillary with the same electoral margin he called it a landslide.

Jibartik
05-04-2022, 09:09 PM
Well in that case it was.

Horza
05-04-2022, 09:10 PM
Well in that case it was.

lol

New_Guy
05-04-2022, 09:37 PM
Its ok I get it, you dont have a penis.

virgins make terrible comedians

Kaveh
05-04-2022, 11:15 PM
Damn guys this page was a new low

I bet im better looking than all of you at age 57

Mitt Romney 2024
Make America Rich Again