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ryandward
06-17-2011, 12:41 PM
This is the first time I have been in this forum, and most of the posts seem likes someone chucked a dictionary into a wood chipper and random words just floated on a page. I mean really... Most of the things I have seen here are just incomprehensible garbage, ... why?
YendorLootmonkey
06-17-2011, 12:49 PM
This is the first time I have been in this forum, and most of the posts seem likes someone chucked a dictionary into a wood chipper and random words just floated on a page. I mean really... Most of the things I have seen here are just incomprehensible garbage, ... why?
Welcome to the internet.
Loly Taa
06-17-2011, 12:49 PM
Welcome to the internet. You didn't think it was all Bing and CNN.com did you?
guineapig
06-17-2011, 12:50 PM
I only read the title and the answer is: yes
I know, it's sad.
Stormhowl
06-17-2011, 12:52 PM
I feel your pain. I majored in English and am working on my Education degree. It hurts to read some of the crap people type, probably more so knowing that's going to be my future in a few years. >.>
It's the Internet. People don't care about being articulate. They see proper English as a sign that you're a pompous ass and they are willing to troll you or disregard your opinions because you "act like you're better than them". Speaking from personal experience, obviously.
Japan
06-17-2011, 12:53 PM
I majored in English
hahahahahahaha
Bruman
06-17-2011, 12:59 PM
I feel your pain. I majored in English and am working on my Education degree. It hurts to read some of the crap people type, probably more so knowing that's going to be my future in a few years. >.>
It's the Internet. People don't care about being articulate. They see proper English as a sign that you're a pompous ass and they are willing to troll you or disregard your opinions because you "act like you're better than them". Speaking from personal experience, obviously.
It's a sign of the emerging culture being one that has no interest in bettering themselves. Any criticism they see as an attack, due to being raised without having any discipline in their lives. The end result is people never leave the mental state of childhood, even when they are technically adults. Battleship Troopers (the book obviously, not the movie) called it.
We're pretty fucked.
Phallax
06-17-2011, 12:59 PM
This is the first time I have been in this forum, and most of the posts seem likes someone chucked a dictionary into a wood chipper and random words just floated on a page. I mean really... Most of the things I have seen here are just incomprehensible garbage, ... why?
Its RnF wtf do you expect? Intelligent discussions?
Stormhowl
06-17-2011, 01:00 PM
hahahahahahaha
Oh please, like I haven't seen that several dozen times before. Try harder. Even 4chan would've banned you for such a failure of an attempt at trolling.
Stormhowl
06-17-2011, 01:03 PM
It's a sign of the emerging culture being one that has no interest in bettering themselves. Any criticism they see as an attack, due to being raised without having any discipline in their lives. The end result is people never leave the mental state of childhood, even when they are technically adults. Battleship Troopers (the book obviously, not the movie) called it.
We're pretty fucked.
It doesn't help when school divisions bend over backwards to avoid lawsuits because Little Billy is special ('cause Mommy says so!) and you cannot fail him! The teachers are clearly picking on him! And stop marking with red pen, it's damaging to children's egos! etc...
A huge problem is the parents instilling this idea on their children that they're special while at the same time neglecting to raise them properly and leaving that job for the TV and/or video games. Parents don't care like they used to.
Goofier
06-17-2011, 01:03 PM
It's a sign of the emerging culture being one that has no interest in bettering themselves. Any criticism they see as an attack, due to being raised without having any discipline in their lives. The end result is people never leave the mental state of childhood, even when they are technically adults. Battleship Troopers (the book obviously, not the movie) called it.
We're pretty fucked.
Starship Troopers.
And it's not that they don't have an interest in bettering themselves, it's that you're not the boss of me. Everyone gets a trophy, win or lose, everyone's special, helicopter parents, gotta have a cell phone and credit card for little Jimmy in the 7th grade, and my own brother still lives in mom and dad's basement at 40.
Why the hell should they improve?
Goofier
06-17-2011, 01:05 PM
It doesn't help when school divisions bend over backwards to avoid lawsuits because Little Billy is special ('cause Mommy says so!) and you cannot fail him! The teachers are clearly picking on him! And stop marking with red pen, it's damaging to children's egos! etc...
A huge problem is the parents instilling this idea on their children that they're special while at the same time neglecting to raise them properly and leaving that job for the TV and/or video games. Parents don't care like they used to.
Simulpost on the same subject, well done :)
Phallax
06-17-2011, 01:08 PM
It doesn't help when school divisions bend over backwards to avoid lawsuits because Little Billy is special ('cause Mommy says so!) and you cannot fail him! The teachers are clearly picking on him! And stop marking with red pen, it's damaging to children's egos! etc...
A huge problem is the parents instilling this idea on their children that they're special while at the same time neglecting to raise them properly and leaving that job for the TV and/or video games. Parents don't care like they used to.
Going to have to agree here. The world and system on how we raise our kids is getting pussified.
I threw a fit in public when I was a kid I got my ass beat and everyone in the store knew it and knew I deserved it. You do that shit today you get CPS called on you and your kid taken.
Hell, you cant even do a simple bottom pat anymore to let your kid know, with out people giving you a dirty look.
Ihealyou
06-17-2011, 01:08 PM
Older generation complains about the younger one, details at 11
Bruman
06-17-2011, 01:16 PM
Starship Troopers.
Gah, yeah, I realized it after hitting post. Damn no edits.
Goofier
06-17-2011, 01:19 PM
Older generation complains about the younger one, details at 11
Oh, sure, nothing new overall, just getting to epic proportions now.
Personally, I blame the WW2 generation. I keep hearing things like, "We did it so our kids would be better off". Well are they? No.
Hank Hill had it right when he was asked if he wanted his son to cut himself with a real knife??? Well, maybe a little bit.
Stormhowl
06-17-2011, 01:22 PM
Going to have to agree here. The world and system on how we raise our kids is getting pussified.
I threw a fit in public when I was a kid I got my ass beat and everyone in the store knew it and knew I deserved it. You do that shit today you get CPS called on you and your kid taken.
Hell, you cant even do a simple bottom pat anymore to let your kid know, with out people giving you a dirty look.
I HATE the Blue Ribbon Society we've got now. Not everyone needs a participation ribbon, seriously. Who cares if the child is upset? They'll get over it.
/em shakes head.
I have no idea why spanking is such an issue nowadays. I know in Sweden that sort of stuff is banned, and their rates of childhood delinquency, suicide, and dropouts have declined greatly since the ban was put in place, but I doubt that would have an effect on attitudes in the rest of the developed world. /shrug.
In regards to CPS, I don't know how it is in the States, but here in Canada the Child Social Services agencies look for a pattern of abuse (e.g., a pattern of physical and emotional abuse towards a child) that is not related to a form of punishment (within reason). Spanking once in a while? CPS won't do anything. Spiral fracture? Improperly healed bones? Injuries that go unreported? Then they'll step in.
baalzy
06-17-2011, 01:29 PM
I feel your pain. I majored in English
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK6ksA0QyE4
Bruno
06-17-2011, 01:53 PM
I see lots of tears in this thread.
Stormhowl
06-17-2011, 01:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK6ksA0QyE4
/yawn
Japan
06-17-2011, 02:07 PM
This insecure tool is gonna get wrecked by the classes he subs. I hope your 4 years of wake-n-bake prepared you to teach a "free day" 5 days a week for minimum wage pal.
Stormhowl
06-17-2011, 02:10 PM
This insecure tool is gonna get wrecked by the classes he subs. I hope your 4 years of wake-n-bake prepared you to teach a "free day" 5 days a week for minimum wage pal.
I wonder at what point you learn I don't give a damn? :D
in reality the baby boomers who were brought up "so gosh darn perfectly" are the ones royally fucking everything up
oh i mean damn kids these days and their sex
Japan
06-17-2011, 02:20 PM
I wonder at what point you learn I don't give a damn? :D
Is this a quote from a conversation with your academic advisor?
azeth
06-17-2011, 02:33 PM
in reality the baby boomers who were brought up "so gosh darn perfectly" are the ones royally fucking everything up
absolute truth. the greatest gen and the boomers love to comment on social irresponsibility, selfishness, cowardice, and laziness when the reality is the boomers couldn't possibly better define those characteristics.
Knuckle
06-17-2011, 03:02 PM
I enjoy my use of their
notahipster
06-17-2011, 03:06 PM
Hi, im hipster. nice to meet you OP.
Theldios
06-17-2011, 03:10 PM
Going to have to agree here. The world and system on how we raise our kids is getting pussified.
I threw a fit in public when I was a kid I got my ass beat and everyone in the store knew it and knew I deserved it. You do that shit today you get CPS called on you and your kid taken.
Hell, you cant even do a simple bottom pat anymore to let your kid know, with out people giving you a dirty look.
I have to disagree with this. I have raised 2 children to be productive members of society and never once did I have to"beat their ass" Parenting is not about hard you can beat your child's ass to get them to do what you want to to behave a certain way. It is about giving them good examples to follow in their lives. And TEACHING them right from wrong. If you do not sit down and explain to them why certain behaviors are wrong then "beating their ass" all day long will not correct the behavior it will only instill fear and hatred and that breeds rebellion.
Hitting your child is never the answer. It should be the last resort.
Goofier
06-17-2011, 03:38 PM
I have to disagree with this. I have raised 2 children to be productive members of society and never once did I have to"beat their ass" Parenting is not about hard you can beat your child's ass to get them to do what you want to to behave a certain way. It is about giving them good examples to follow in their lives. And TEACHING them right from wrong. If you do not sit down and explain to them why certain behaviors are wrong then "beating their ass" all day long will not correct the behavior it will only instill fear and hatred and that breeds rebellion.
Hitting your child is never the answer. It should be the last resort.
Bullshit, and you said it yourself. It's about responsible teaching. Sometimes the only thing that will have the appropriate impact is a reasonable amount of physical reinforcement.
Please note the use of the words sometimes, appropriate, and reasonable. This does not mean beating a kid into fear or the hospital.
baalzy
06-17-2011, 03:41 PM
/yawn
Just waking up in time to get your unemployment check?
(i'm just poking fun lol)
Japan
06-17-2011, 03:48 PM
This does not mean beating a kid into fear
I'm not sure you grasp the MOA of corporal punishment. There is no physically dominating your child without fear.
There are plenty of options for reinforcing the behaviour of a child in either direction without using the trucker's wife plebeian trash ass-slap. Get some fucking class.
azeth
06-17-2011, 03:50 PM
Sometimes the only thing that will have the appropriate impact is a reasonable amount shame, embarassment
fixed for ya.
Goofier
06-17-2011, 03:54 PM
I'm not sure you grasp the MOA of corporal punishment. There is no physically dominating your child without fear.
There are plenty of options for reinforcing the behaviour of a child in either direction without using the trucker's wife plebeian trash ass-slap. Get some fucking class.
Again, bullshit, because it's only about physically dominating the child in your tortured mind. Sorry if daddy put a cigar out on your arm for spilling paint in the garage, but that's not what I'm talking about.
Keep up or shut up and quit trying to make this about physical abuse.
Goofier
06-17-2011, 03:55 PM
fixed for ya.
Thank you, good fix.
Japan
06-17-2011, 04:04 PM
Again, bullshit, because it's only about physically dominating the child in your tortured mind. Sorry if daddy put a cigar out on your arm for spilling paint in the garage, but that's not what I'm talking about.
Keep up or shut up and quit trying to make this about physical abuse.
Surely I think you're a barbaric piece of shit because my dad was a cruel monster. Not because he raised happy, wealthy, attractive, and otherwise successful children without ever laying hands on them when they made youthful mistakes...
The only thing that tortures my mind is the thought that clowns like you will be beating unfortunate children in "reasonable and appropriate" circumstances until the end of civilization.
Again, bullshit, because it's only about physically dominating the child in your tortured mind. Sorry if daddy put a cigar out on your arm for spilling paint in the garage, but that's not what I'm talking about.
Keep up or shut up and quit trying to make this about physical abuse.
no really, it's completely unnecessary to use physical punishment on your child, despite your expertly crafted defense of making up stuff from japan's childhood.
i'm not saying it's the end of the world if you give your kid a spanking, just that there are better alternatives than violence.
Extunarian
06-17-2011, 04:11 PM
no really, it's completely unnecessary to use physical punishment on your child, despite your expertly crafted defense of making up stuff from japan's childhood.
itt pico is awesome
Goofier
06-17-2011, 04:14 PM
Surely I think you're a barbaric piece of shit because my dad was a cruel monster. Not because he raised happy, wealthy, attractive, and otherwise successful children without ever laying hands on them when they made youthful mistakes...
The only thing that tortures my mind is the thought that clowns like you will be beating unfortunate children in "reasonable and appropriate" circumstances until the end of civilization.
Ahhhh, yes, the Ivory Tower approach: You're better than all of us, so you must be right.
Again, pay attention. You're mixing the words 'beating' with 'reasonable and appropriate' as if they're the same thing. I made the distinction because they are not. You're trying to devalue my use of 'reasonable and appropriate' to the level of physical abuse, and that's just not correct. The two are mutually exclusive.
no really, it's completely unnecessary to use physical punishment on your child, despite your expertly crafted defense of making up stuff from japan's childhood.
i'm not saying it's the end of the world if you give your kid a spanking, just that there are better alternatives than violence.
The reference was from The Breakfast Club, it was meant to simply illustrate the difference between what I'm talking about and what he's trying to make it sound like I'm talking about.
And again, you too... I'm not talking about violence. Get it right before you jump in.
Slathar
06-17-2011, 04:17 PM
I wonder at what point you learn I don't give a damn? :D
tell us more about how well-adjusted you are while having multiple 50+ characters in an mmorpg. sitting in front of a computer for 100s of days is totally bettering yourself.
ps - your major sucks, you suck, go fuck yourself loser
Polixenes
06-17-2011, 04:17 PM
When you can't reason with an out of control tot a little swat to get their attention is totally reasonable.
This is not the same as slashing them to death with a breadknife and dancing on their graves singing hallelujah.
Bruno
06-17-2011, 04:19 PM
Ahhhh, yes, the Ivory Tower approach: You're better than all of us, so you must be right.
Again, pay attention. You're mixing the words 'beating' with 'reasonable and appropriate' as if they're the same thing. I made the distinction because they are not. You're trying to devalue my use of 'reasonable and appropriate' to the level of physical abuse, and that's just not correct. The two are mutually exclusive.
The reference was from The Breakfast Club, it was meant to simply illustrate the difference between what I'm talking about and what he's trying to make it sound like I'm talking about.
And again, you too... I'm not talking about violence. Get it right before you jump in.
It sounds like you're trying really hard to justify beating your kids, but nobody is buying it, no matter how many times you ask us to "keep up". But go on and ask us to "keep up" some more.
Goofier
06-17-2011, 04:20 PM
When you can't reason with an out of control tot a little swat to get their attention is totally reasonable.
This is not the same as slashing them to death with a breadknife and dancing on their graves singing hallelujah.
Very good point. Sometimes, with children, there IS no reasoning. That's why there's a different word for them, as opposed to 'adult'.
Hugs and sunshine will not always make everything perfect.
Goofier
06-17-2011, 04:23 PM
It sounds like you're trying really hard to justify beating your kids, but nobody is buying it, no matter how many times you ask us to "keep up". But go on and ask us to "keep up" some more.
The reason I say 'keep up' so much is because of the attempts to redefine what I'm saying, because they're not really paying attention. They're (so far) not capable of understanding something different, apparently, so they're wrapping their own definitions around it, and incorrectly.
Doors
06-17-2011, 04:25 PM
I spell betterer than you do.
Japan
06-17-2011, 04:27 PM
Ahhhh, yes, the Ivory Tower approach: You're better than all of us, so you must be right.
My use of anecdote as a rhetorical device was a parody of your witless Breakfast Club reference. I'm sorry you didn't get it.
Japan
06-17-2011, 04:30 PM
The reason I say 'keep up' so much is because of the attempts to redefine what I'm saying, because they're not really paying attention. They're (so far) not capable of understanding something different, apparently, so they're wrapping their own definitions around it, and incorrectly.
So what you're saying is you're making a semantic argument?
thank you I will stop wasting my time
Goofier
06-17-2011, 04:30 PM
My use of anecdote as a rhetorical device was a parody of your witless Breakfast Club reference. I'm sorry you didn't get it.
Loser says what, 'cause he's got no real comback on the subject?
Goofier
06-17-2011, 04:31 PM
So what you're saying is you're making a semantic argument?
thank you I will stop wasting my time
No, if anything, you were making the semantic argument. I spelled out my position just fine in the first place, you're only catching up now.
Finally.
Idiot.
Goin' to get pizza, fuck you.
Seaweedpimp
06-17-2011, 04:33 PM
I never place my hands on my son but i just cant help but swear when im up to my fill of aggrivation.
TBH i wish i wouldnt, but sometimes im just like fuck! what the fuck!
Stormhowl
06-17-2011, 04:39 PM
I have to disagree with this. I have raised 2 children to be productive members of society and never once did I have to"beat their ass" Parenting is not about hard you can beat your child's ass to get them to do what you want to to behave a certain way. It is about giving them good examples to follow in their lives. And TEACHING them right from wrong. If you do not sit down and explain to them why certain behaviors are wrong then "beating their ass" all day long will not correct the behavior it will only instill fear and hatred and that breeds rebellion.
Hitting your child is never the answer. It should be the last resort.
Sorry, but parenting isn't even HALF of the job of raising a child. Peers and teachers have 50%, if not MORE than 50% of the development of a child. And who cares if you have raised a pair of good children? Anecdotal evidence is so... irrelevant.
Japan
06-17-2011, 04:50 PM
childbeater ends the argument with "loser says what?"
i rest my case
Ledzepp02
06-17-2011, 05:09 PM
Starship Trooper
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTjbWL6XYoU
Goofier
06-17-2011, 05:10 PM
childbeater ends the argument with "loser says what?"
i rest my case
Except that wasn't my last post, not by 20 minutes. You don't rest shit, that's called Fake It Until You Make It.
And there you are, still trying to equate 'childbeater' with what I said. You still don't get it, and you're still not able to address the specifics of what I have said after correcting you. Notice again how the above post has nothing to do with anything except trying to make yourself look superior.
Phallax
06-17-2011, 05:11 PM
I have to disagree with this. I have raised 2 children to be productive members of society and never once did I have to"beat their ass" Parenting is not about hard you can beat your child's ass to get them to do what you want to to behave a certain way. It is about giving them good examples to follow in their lives. And TEACHING them right from wrong. If you do not sit down and explain to them why certain behaviors are wrong then "beating their ass" all day long will not correct the behavior it will only instill fear and hatred and that breeds rebellion.
Hitting your child is never the answer. It should be the last resort.
You missed the point of my post completely. I never once said it was the only way to do it. Im saying that in the world today everyone is looking for a reason to call CPS on you and have your kids taken.
Older generation complains about the younger one, details at 11
lmao
Japan
06-17-2011, 05:25 PM
Except that wasn't my last post, not by 20 minutes. You don't rest shit, that's called Fake It Until You Make It.
And there you are, still trying to equate 'childbeater' with what I said. You still don't get it, and you're still not able to address the specifics of what I have said after correcting you. Notice again how the above post has nothing to do with anything except trying to make yourself look superior.
You have told me you draw a distinction between physical punishment and violence. I disagree. There's not really any way to address that judgement call logically without some scientific evidence neither of us have. The rest is posturing so I'm not sure where your indignation is coming from.
I hope this clears up why I have estimated that you are a barbarian.
Polixenes
06-17-2011, 05:28 PM
This thread is one of many examples of how reasonable argument applied to children does not always result in said children getting a clue, thus physical correction is required.
Stormhowl, you are just going to have to paddle young Japan's backside.
Doors
06-17-2011, 05:44 PM
THIS THREAD IS GOING PLACES
azeth
06-17-2011, 05:47 PM
Doors your avatar and yendor's sig give me a fucking panic attack when i browse these forums @ work.
Goofier
06-17-2011, 05:48 PM
You have told me you draw a distinction between physical punishment and violence. I disagree. There's not really any way to address that judgement call logically without some scientific evidence neither of us have. The rest is posturing so I'm not sure where your indignation is coming from.
I hope this clears up why I have estimated that you are a barbarian.
Not at all, because you're still trying to equate abuse with reasonable. I've been trying to point out that the two are different all this time, and that I'm on the reasonable side. You keep trying to put me on the abuse side.
If you want to say that any form of physically touching a child in any way is 'abuse', then you're still a complete idiot. And by the way, directly from my neighbor that works in a medically professional capacity with children and babies all day long, good luck raising your own kids, you're gonna need it.
Also, I'm not a barbarian. I'm a warrior, monk, druid, cleric, and shadowknight, but not barbarian :D
This thread is one of many examples of how reasonable argument applied to children does not always result in said children getting a clue, thus physical correction is required.
Stormhowl, you are just going to have to paddle young Japan's backside.
I got that taken care of :D
Knuckle
06-17-2011, 05:59 PM
What I would personally like to see, is something that would start just above the knee, and extend to just above the belly button. When you think about it, the business end of males and females are in the same region, And while you can forgive the lack of any significant upper torso, it's a bit harder to ignore the lack of any leg segment. You know its not there, you feel its not there, even if you close your eyes. Not to forget, what you have to feel and grab with your hands is also just as important.
Stormhowl
06-17-2011, 06:15 PM
Not at all, because you're still trying to equate abuse with reasonable. I've been trying to point out that the two are different all this time, and that I'm on the reasonable side. You keep trying to put me on the abuse side.
If you want to say that any form of physically touching a child in any way is 'abuse', then you're still a complete idiot.
To elaborate on this further, "abuse" as defined by a professional refers to a PATTERN of violent physical and emotional abuse with the aim to control a person. A pattern of demeaning a spouse and using intimidation to keep them away from their friends and family is abuse. Spanking a child when they get impossibly unruly is not abuse.
Children cannot reason until the age of 11. And until they are fully developed, they react emotionally rather than rationally. If you think you can "hugs and kisses" and talk your kids down when they're throwing a temper tantrum in McDonalds? You're kidding yourself.
Theldios
06-17-2011, 06:24 PM
Bullshit, and you said it yourself. It's about responsible teaching. Sometimes the only thing that will have the appropriate impact is a reasonable amount of physical reinforcement.
Please note the use of the words sometimes, appropriate, and reasonable. This does not mean beating a kid into fear or the hospital.
Physical reinforcment is not responsible teaching. It is the last resort of those who do not know how to deal with a child. Again i have NEVER hit my children and 2 of the 3 are grown men who are good productive members of society
the 3rd is only a small child still and he will never be hit in any manner by me or my wife for discipline. Violence in any form is never the answer
baalzy
06-17-2011, 06:29 PM
http://theworstpageintheuniverse.com/images/parent_web1.jpg
Theldios
06-17-2011, 06:33 PM
Sorry, but parenting isn't even HALF of the job of raising a child. Peers and teachers have 50%, if not MORE than 50% of the development of a child. And who cares if you have raised a pair of good children? Anecdotal evidence is so... irrelevant.
your pretty dilusional arn't you? the proof is in my children that my way works and works well. The proof is in that the way of the sword creats more of the way of the sword. and the proof is in the teachings of the bleeding heart liberals has hurt more of our children then ever helped. social promotion is one of the bleeding heart liberal programs that shows the great proof of how messed up the teachers and teaching styles of today are.
Goofier
06-17-2011, 06:35 PM
Physical reinforcment is not responsible teaching. It is the last resort of those who do not know how to deal with a child. Again i have NEVER hit my children and 2 of the 3 are grown men who are good productive members of society
the 3rd is only a small child still and he will never be hit in any manner by me or my wife for discipline. Violence in any form is never the answer
Oh, you fucking morons.
First, congradulations, and I sincerely mean that. If that works for you, great, and wonderful.
This is NOT the case with ALL children.
Second, if you are going to join the bandwagon of people misunderstanding the usage of the word 'violence' when compared to, 'physical' in this context, then shut the fuck up.
Again I will try this:
I'm not advocating violence. I'm not advocating abuse. You are trying to make it sound that way. I'm talking about rational enforcement of behavioral standards through physical means that do not include abuse. Stop trying to make me sound like a childbeater, you stupid, holier-than-thou motherfuckers. If you can't wrap your brain around that, go hug your kids and keep deluding yourself into thinking that any form of physical contact is abuse.
Goofier
06-17-2011, 06:37 PM
your pretty dilusional arn't you? the proof is in my children that my way works and works well. The proof is in that the way of the sword creats more of the way of the sword. and the proof is in the teachings of the bleeding heart liberals has hurt more of our children then ever helped. social promotion is one of the bleeding heart liberal programs that shows the great proof of how messed up the teachers and teaching styles of today are.
By the way, I'd like to point out that this is the example that started this whole post. Too stupid to know the difference between 'your' and 'you're', and don't care. Too wrapped up in being the pinnacle of perfect parenting because your one and only experience (your own family) has to be the exact same as everyone else, therefore making you an absolute authority.
Theldios
06-17-2011, 06:43 PM
Oh, you fucking morons.
First, congradulations, and I sincerely mean that. If that works for you, great, and wonderful.
This is NOT the case with ALL children.
Second, if you are going to join the bandwagon of people misunderstanding the usage of the word 'violence' when compared to, 'physical' in this context, then shut the fuck up.
Again I will try this:
I'm not advocating violence. I'm not advocating abuse. You are trying to make it sound that way. I'm talking about rational enforcement of behavioral standards through physical means that do not include abuse. Stop trying to make me sound like a childbeater, you stupid, holier-than-thou motherfuckers. If you can't wrap your brain around that, go hug your kids and keep deluding yourself into thinking that any form of physical contact is abuse.
your a moron
not much more to say than that
Hitting is violence. there is no such thing as resonable hitting period
It is a violent act and you are teching your child violence. plan and simple
no if ands or buts about it.
Hitting is a violent act
No one ever said you were a child beater you have been trying this whole time to justify the of hitting a child as a disciplinary measure. I disagree and think that it is the last resort of those who do not know any better
Too stupid to know the difference between 'your' and 'you're', and don't care.
congradulations
Kassel
06-17-2011, 06:55 PM
a spanking is not abuse.
Barkingturtle
06-17-2011, 06:57 PM
a spanking is not abuse.
Honestly, spanking is just bad, under any circumstance. It's ineffective at best and abusive at its worst. It serves only to sate the violent tendencies of adults who are themselves too lazy to formulate responsible, non-damaging methods of correcting their child's behavior. Fact is though, most of the time you can't reason with the snot-nosed little brats. What I've found effective is to heat a potato-peeler on the stove for ten minutes or so, and then just slide the tip of it into the kiddo's urethra, or their anus. I almost always cum before they lose consciousness. Anyway, I don't have kids but I do babysit from time-to-time, so I probably know more about this than you guys.
Hoggen
06-17-2011, 07:04 PM
This is the first time I have been in this forum, and most of the posts seem likes someone chucked a dictionary into a wood chipper and random words just floated on a page. I mean really... Most of the things I have seen here are just incomprehensible garbage, ... why?
Turn off "bad word filter"
Japan
06-17-2011, 07:07 PM
Honestly, spanking is just bad, under any circumstance. It's ineffective at best and abusive at its worst. It serves only to sate the violent tendencies of adults who are themselves too lazy to formulate responsible, non-damaging methods of correcting their child's behavior. Fact is though, most of the time you can't reason with the snot-nosed little brats. What I've found effective is to heat a potato-peeler on the stove for ten minutes or so, and then just slide the tip of it into the kiddo's urethra, or their anus. I almost always cum before they lose consciousness. Anyway, I don't have kids but I do babysit from time-to-time, so I probably know more about this than you guys.
hahahaha
Doors
06-17-2011, 07:19 PM
Honestly, spanking is just bad, under any circumstance. It's ineffective at best and abusive at its worst. It serves only to sate the violent tendencies of adults who are themselves too lazy to formulate responsible, non-damaging methods of correcting their child's behavior. Fact is though, most of the time you can't reason with the snot-nosed little brats. What I've found effective is to heat a potato-peeler on the stove for ten minutes or so, and then just slide the tip of it into the kiddo's urethra, or their anus. I almost always cum before they lose consciousness. Anyway, I don't have kids but I do babysit from time-to-time, so I probably know more about this than you guys.
Wrong. A good slap to the face or kick in the ass keeps a kid in line.
Uthgaard
06-17-2011, 07:24 PM
We're pretty fucked.
Not really, most of them will never breed. Natural selection's one Ace in the hole.
Doors
06-17-2011, 07:27 PM
I just got trolled and didn't read the entire wall of txt.
Not really, most of them will never breed.
wrong
alexandervaccaro
06-17-2011, 07:33 PM
What I would personally like to see, is something that would start just above the knee, and extend to just above the belly button. When you think about it, the business end of males and females are in the same region, And while you can forgive the lack of any significant upper torso, it's a bit harder to ignore the lack of any leg segment. You know its not there, you feel its not there, even if you close your eyes. Not to forget, what you have to feel and grab with your hands is also just as important.
wtf Knuckle? Did anyone else google this shit? hahaha
Phallax
06-17-2011, 07:40 PM
This whole thread is proving my whole point in my original post.
At least Goofier gets it.
a spanking is not abuse.
^ exactly.
Barkingturtle
06-17-2011, 07:41 PM
I just got trolled and didn't read the entire wall of txt.
Wall of text? It was a fucking paragraph you sad excuse for cunt excrement. It was less than ten sentences. Have your parents considered medication to help you focus?. Jesus Christ, way to epitomize the failures of your generation. You sir, would benefit from having something sharp and searing shoved into your pee-hole.
Abacab "The REAL truth"
06-17-2011, 07:54 PM
Wall of text? It was a fucking paragraph you sad excuse for cunt excrement. It was less than ten sentences. Have your parents considered medication to help you focus?. Jesus Christ, way to epitomize the failures of your generation. You sir, would benefit from having something sharp and searing shoved into your pee-hole.
Seems like you're getting mad, when can we expect your "wife" to enter this thread and write paragraphs about your gnarled dick again? Or should we just keep listening to you as you plunge deeper and deeper into infantilism?
Goofier
06-17-2011, 07:59 PM
Yeah, saw that just now as we got back with the pizza. Of course, there is a slight difference between a typo and ignorance with attitude. And that's the conversation we should be having, honestly.
Goofier
06-17-2011, 08:00 PM
Originally Posted by Goofier
Too stupid to know the difference between 'your' and 'you're', and don't care.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Goofier
congradulations
Guess the board doesn't like quoting nothing but quotes.
Goofier
06-17-2011, 08:01 PM
Not really, most of them will never breed. Natural selection's one Ace in the hole.
Have you seen Idiocracy? I'd love to agree with you, but especially in the case of the holier-but-stupider-than-thous, I think you may be mistaken.
Goofier
06-17-2011, 08:02 PM
This whole thread is proving my whole point in my original post.
At least Goofier gets it.
^ exactly.
Thank you :)
Doors
06-17-2011, 08:06 PM
Wall of text? It was a fucking paragraph you sad excuse for cunt excrement. It was less than ten sentences. Have your parents considered medication to help you focus?. Jesus Christ, way to epitomize the failures of your generation. You sir, would benefit from having something sharp and searing shoved into your pee-hole.
tldr
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhvbiaTWq91qf4hgk.jpg
Barkingturtle
06-17-2011, 08:07 PM
Seems like you're getting mad, when can we expect your "wife" to enter this thread and write paragraphs about your gnarled dick again? Or should we just keep listening to you as you plunge deeper and deeper into infantilism?
Well, if you want to learn about parenting and life skills you should probably continue to listen to me. I don't think you were really asking my advice, though. I think your questions were mostly rhetorical.
Oh, and really? "Plunge deeper and deeper into infanitilism"? Let me guess: you read my last couple posts and couldn't stop thinking about penetrating toddlers, huh? Well you're probably not the only one. I mean, this is the internet, after all. I assume the spanking advocates really just like touching little boys on the pooper.
Stormhowl
06-17-2011, 08:20 PM
Well, if you want to learn about parenting and life skills you should probably continue to listen to me. I don't think you were really asking my advice, though. I think your questions were mostly rhetorical.
Oh, and really? "Plunge deeper and deeper into infanitilism"? Let me guess: you read my last couple posts and couldn't stop thinking about penetrating toddlers, huh? Well you're probably not the only one. I mean, this is the internet, after all. I assume the spanking advocates really just like touching little boys on the pooper.
If I didn't know from your previous posts you were trolling, I'd probably think you actually believed that.
Bruno
06-17-2011, 08:21 PM
No woman is going to let half of nerds impregnate them anyways, so raising a child should be the least of your concerns.
Bruno
06-17-2011, 08:22 PM
you nerds.^ Christ I hate no editing here.
Stormhowl
06-17-2011, 08:24 PM
you nerds.^ Christ I hate no editing here.
Thank god I'm queer so I don't need to worry about that shit anyways.
Barkingturtle
06-17-2011, 08:29 PM
Thank god I'm queer so I don't need to worry about that shit anyways.
Yeah, but then again you've gotta undergo an enema to get laid, so you do have some shit of your own to deal with.
Har har har.
Bruno
06-17-2011, 08:30 PM
Thank god I'm queer so I don't need to worry about that shit anyways.
Somebody needs to keep the population count down.
Barkingturtle
06-17-2011, 08:33 PM
I liked my post belittling homosexuality more than I dug yours, Bruno. Yours just seemed kind of mean spirited while mine is like a pal you haven't seen in a while giving you some shit. I think you're probably a pretty bad bigot.
Stormhowl
06-17-2011, 08:36 PM
Yeah, but then again you've gotta undergo an enema to get laid, so you do have some shit of your own to deal with.
Har har har.
Huh, oh please.
1) Eat fiber to stay regular.
2) Use lube. Shit don't stick.
Bruno
06-17-2011, 08:37 PM
I liked my post belittling homosexuality more than I dug yours, Bruno. Yours just seemed kind of mean spirited while mine is like a pal you haven't seen in a while giving you some shit. I think you're probably a pretty bad bigot.
Good thing I'm not searching for opinions.
Barkingturtle
06-17-2011, 08:38 PM
Huh, oh please.
1) Eat fiber to stay regular.
2) Use lube. Shit don't stick.
Touche'.
Well, I guess you gays do have it pretty easy then, other than the AIDS and the bigots like Bruno and stuff.
Stormhowl
06-17-2011, 08:50 PM
Touche'.
Well, I guess you gays do have it pretty easy then, other than the AIDS and the bigots like Bruno and stuff.
AIDs is more prevalent in African American, Hispanic, and Latino Straights than it is in any demographic of gay people.
Jus' sayin' bro.
Barkingturtle
06-17-2011, 08:53 PM
Wow that is really racist dude.
Heartbeats
06-17-2011, 08:56 PM
Children cannot reason until the age of 11. And until they are fully developed, they react emotionally rather than rationally. If you think you can "hugs and kisses" and talk your kids down when they're throwing a temper tantrum in McDonalds? You're kidding yourself.
Don't take your kids to McDonalds. They're gonna develop a protective layer of fat that makes it harder to beat them.
Bodeanicus
06-17-2011, 08:57 PM
Wow, it took 7 pages before the ubiquitous /chanmemepic appeared. I'm impressed.
Bruno
06-17-2011, 08:58 PM
Wow that is really racist dude.
http://i55.tinypic.com/2edd01k.jpg
Knuckle
06-17-2011, 09:00 PM
Pic of butt.
Phallax
06-17-2011, 09:00 PM
Wow that is really racist dude.
stats arent racist, stats are stats.
Heartbeats
06-17-2011, 09:01 PM
Pic of Butt
I wish I could see the face I'm making right now.
Stormhowl
06-17-2011, 09:03 PM
Pic of Butt
What is this I don't even-
That's the ugliest ass I've ever seen.
Phallax
06-17-2011, 09:06 PM
omg plz stop quoting that picture lol
theres only so much balls ass and torso a person can tolerate
Heartbeats
06-17-2011, 10:25 PM
Pic of Butt
Pic of Butt
Pic of Butt
Pic of Butt
Pic of Butt
OngorDrakan
06-17-2011, 10:30 PM
there is a chain to heavens gate, sheryl crow tells me so, so child, take this man and run to the table with your spoons.
Falisaty
06-17-2011, 11:13 PM
Please note the use of the words sometimes, appropriate, and reasonable. This does not mean beating a kid into fear or the hospital.
i sec this... i have " beat thier ass" discipline my 4 year old and have rearly raised my hand to her but now i can look at her when she is acting up and raise my hand and it will deter her or stop her behavior and she will straighten up.
Reynard_CT
06-18-2011, 01:16 AM
I feel your pain. I majored in English and am working on my Education degree. It hurts to read some of the crap people type, probably more so knowing that's going to be my future in a few years. >.>
It's the Internet. People don't care about being articulate. They see proper English as a sign that you're a pompous ass and they are willing to troll you or disregard your opinions because you "act like you're better than them". Speaking from personal experience, obviously.
Place punctuation within the quotation marks. And it's not just Stormhowl, but I'm too lazy to quote all the evildoers so the first offender gets the prize.
Also, quote is a verb and quotation is a noun.
I guess I'm feeling anal tonight... giggity.
shdwdrake8
06-18-2011, 01:28 AM
Hi guys. This thread is cool.
shdwdrake8
06-18-2011, 01:30 AM
@Reynard - I was thinking the same thing, though I was friends with an English major and he said something like that if it was cloudy outside and the 3rd Saturday of the month it was okay to put punctuation outside quotes. English is a shitty language.
Abacab "The REAL truth"
06-18-2011, 02:21 AM
Well, if you want to learn about parenting and life skills you should probably continue to listen to me. I don't think you were really asking my advice, though. I think your questions were mostly rhetorical.
Oh, and really? "Plunge deeper and deeper into infanitilism"? Let me guess: you read my last couple posts and couldn't stop thinking about penetrating toddlers, huh? Well you're probably not the only one. I mean, this is the internet, after all. I assume the spanking advocates really just like touching little boys on the pooper.
Last time you came at this board warrior the following happened:
We revealed you were old, fat, and balding
You met your wife off an EQ website
You logged on an alternate account pretending to be your "wife"
You talked incessantly about your on-par average penis size
We laughed you out of every thread you posted in for weeks
Did I mention you were some fat ass pretending to be his wife trolling us into talking about your penis as you were laughed out of every serious conversation?
If not well... I'm stating it again
I see you nursed your wounds and it only took like what a year for you to erase the embarrassment of being verbally ass fucked by abacab and crew?
Vladiimir
06-18-2011, 03:26 AM
Last time you came at this board warrior the following happened:
We revealed you were old, fat, and balding
You met your wife off an EQ website
You logged on an alternate account pretending to be your "wife"
You talked incessantly about your on-par average penis size
We laughed you out of every thread you posted in for weeks
Did I mention you were some fat ass pretending to be his wife trolling us into talking about your penis as you were laughed out of every serious conversation?
If not well... I'm stating it again
I see you nursed your wounds and it only took like what a year for you to erase the embarrassment of being verbally ass fucked by abacab and crew?
I hear Abacab is so lonely that he trolls RnF all day for any type of company. Is this true?
Abacab "The REAL truth"
06-18-2011, 03:43 AM
I saw at least 10 posts from you just in 2 days! Don't get mad baby, i still love you.
Lies and slander, but you're bumpin' it up
Abacab "The REAL truth"
06-18-2011, 04:00 AM
Beating a child's ass only works when they're like 6 years old and totally submissive, I used to get my ass beat when I was young and it totally didn't work anymore when I was a teenager...
I recall my dad back-handing me cause I was running my mouth and he was a bit drunk so obviously wasn't going to put up with that shit, and being 17 years old and full of rampant hormones and rage I did what a reasonable human being would do when struck like that: I kicked him in the groin and pushed him down a flight of 30 or so stairs he ended up fracturing his elbow and cracking two ribs from the fall so he was in the ER shortly after that...
Point is I asserted my dominance as the alpha-male in the household and from that day on he didn't raise his hand to me, he only called the probation office
Japan
06-18-2011, 04:20 AM
Did I mention you were some fat ass pretending to be his wife trolling us into talking about your penis as you were laughed out of every serious conversation?
yes, abacab actually wrote this
Abacab "The REAL truth"
06-18-2011, 04:57 AM
yes, abacab actually wrote this
Everytime I see your name I think of this:
http://www.magicaljapan.co.uk/Images/japan1.jpg
but when you type some bullshit it ends up like this:
http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2011/03/14/1226021/069261-japan-earthquake.jpg
purist
06-18-2011, 05:15 AM
http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/3659/wvubub.jpg
shdwdrake8
06-18-2011, 05:53 AM
*announcer voice* ...and Abacab with the interception! He's going, going...!
JenJen
06-18-2011, 06:16 AM
first page - amusing
rest of thread - snoozefest
the guy who was moaning about grammar - people write differently in various situations. Writing a report at work and writing bollocks on a p99 emu forum, for example.
feel free to resume talking shit about how to discipline your kids, as you sit in front of your pc every night for 8 hours ignoring them completely and failing as parents :)
Abacab "The REAL truth"
06-18-2011, 06:23 AM
first page - amusing
rest of thread - snoozefest
the guy who was moaning about grammar - people write differently in various situations. Writing a report at work and writing bollocks on a p99 emu forum, for example.
feel free to resume talking shit about how to discipline your kids, as you sit in front of your pc every night for 8 hours ignoring them completely and failing as parents :)
No one cares about your obvious yet arrogant opinion
Stupid cunt
Goofier
06-18-2011, 06:27 AM
No one cares about your obvious yet arrogant opinion
Stupid cunt
At least they're keeping up with the conversation instead of just ego posting.
Abacab "The REAL truth"
06-18-2011, 06:30 AM
http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/3659/wvubub.jpg
http://i35.tinypic.com/90u6te.jpg
http://bighugelabs.com/output/motivatora85ffe1bfd40a18642eca7ea2de22d7b505ace98. jpg
deathgirl
06-18-2011, 06:34 AM
Beating a child's ass only works when they're like 6 years old and totally submissive, I used to get my ass beat when I was young and it totally didn't work anymore when I was a teenager...
I recall my dad back-handing me cause I was running my mouth and he was a bit drunk so obviously wasn't going to put up with that shit, and being 17 years old and full of rampant hormones and rage I did what a reasonable human being would do when struck like that: I kicked him in the groin and pushed him down a flight of 30 or so stairs he ended up fracturing his elbow and cracking two ribs from the fall so he was in the ER shortly after that...
Point is I asserted my dominance as the alpha-male in the household and from that day on he didn't raise his hand to me, he only called the probation office
until I was five and we left him, my dad would beat me and burn me if I ever cried and told me he was god (a nice touch). but I'm sorry to report that his quest for my ultimate submission failed, apparently I was born rebellious. well, I do have difficulty crying. but who needs crying when you're deathgirl
Constellations
06-18-2011, 06:36 AM
So many wieners: so little time.
Abacab "The REAL truth"
06-18-2011, 06:39 AM
until I was five and we left him, my dad would beat me and burn me if I ever cried and told me he was god (a nice touch). but I'm sorry to report that his quest for my ultimate submission failed, apparently I was born rebellious. well, I do have difficulty crying. but who needs crying when you're deathgirl
When you're like 40 and he's on his death bed, the sheer amount of unresolved issues and PTSD will burn hot through your mind, and ultimately you were thrown into the frays of submission because on his last waking moment all the mental scarring bleeds fresh and I have no doubt shortly after this event you'll be in for long bouts of therapy.
deathgirl
06-18-2011, 07:16 AM
When you're like 40 and he's on his death bed, the sheer amount of unresolved issues and PTSD will burn hot through your mind, and ultimately you were thrown into the frays of submission because on his last waking moment all the mental scarring bleeds fresh and I have no doubt shortly after this event you'll be in for long bouts of therapy.
bah. started therapy when i was eight for other things and it was only ever a game because psychologists are generally newbs at empathy
JenJen
06-18-2011, 07:25 AM
No one cares about your obvious yet arrogant opinion
Stupid cunt
i dont care about you, you fat cunt :)
Slave
06-18-2011, 07:36 AM
Everytime I see your name I think of this:
http://www.magicaljapan.co.uk/Images/japan1.jpg
but when you type some bullshit it ends up like this:
http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2011/03/14/1226021/069261-japan-earthquake.jpg
Best thing you have ever posted. ROFL
luciffe1122
06-18-2011, 09:01 AM
thank you guys
Knuckle
06-18-2011, 09:52 AM
Pic of butt.
lol
Bodeanicus
06-18-2011, 11:41 AM
Beating a child's ass only works when they're like 6 years old and totally submissive, I used to get my ass beat when I was young and it totally didn't work anymore when I was a teenager...
I recall my dad back-handing me cause I was running my mouth and he was a bit drunk so obviously wasn't going to put up with that shit, and being 17 years old and full of rampant hormones and rage I did what a reasonable human being would do when struck like that: I kicked him in the groin and pushed him down a flight of 30 or so stairs he ended up fracturing his elbow and cracking two ribs from the fall so he was in the ER shortly after that...
Point is I asserted my dominance as the alpha-male in the household and from that day on he didn't raise his hand to me, he only called the probation office
AHAHAHA! You, a 100 pound, anorexic hipster with absolutely no muscle tone an "alpha male?!" Maybe you should use your trust fund to join a gym, instead of buying bass gear. Tralina could beat your ass, no problem.
P.S. Jerry Cantrell wants his clothes back.
Abacab "The REAL truth"
06-18-2011, 03:33 PM
AHAHAHA! You, a 100 pound, anorexic hipster with absolutely no muscle tone an "alpha male?!" Maybe you should use your trust fund to join a gym, instead of buying bass gear. Tralina could beat your ass, no problem.
P.S. Jerry Cantrell wants his clothes back.
I don't know, better to be a 20 year old hipster than a 40 year fat ass wouldn't you say? I have no doubt with your curly jewfro and greying hair that you're getting your sex for free, why would someone obviously in the best of shape such as yourself need to pay for hookers to knock his junk around?
http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv262/bodeanicus/me.jpg
Abacab "The REAL truth"
06-18-2011, 03:36 PM
Also Jenjen tagging "abacab pwned by jen" at the bottom doesn't actually make it true; as much as you swear by that tag I'm fairly certain I could put it in your butt no problem
YendorLootmonkey
06-18-2011, 03:54 PM
This is the first time I have been in this forum, and most of the posts seem likes someone chucked a dictionary into a wood chipper and random words just floated on a page. I mean really... Most of the things I have seen here are just incomprehensible garbage, ... why?
So, eight pages later, did you get your answer yet?
Knuckle
06-18-2011, 03:56 PM
Pic of butt.
wehrmacht
06-18-2011, 06:56 PM
until I was five and we left him, my dad would beat me and burn me if I ever cried and told me he was god (a nice touch). but I'm sorry to report that his quest for my ultimate submission failed, apparently I was born rebellious.
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/1680/article126321008f975d30.jpg
Bodeanicus
06-19-2011, 02:08 AM
I don't know, better to be a 20 year old hipster than a 40 year fat ass wouldn't you say? I have no doubt with your curly jewfro and greying hair that you're getting your sex for free, why would someone obviously in the best of shape such as yourself need to pay for hookers to knock his junk around?
http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv262/bodeanicus/me.jpg
Nope, it's better to be a fat ass with a jewfro than a walking skeleton faggot Alice In Chains video reject who looks like he hasn't bathed in a week. Yep, I've gotten fat over the last 3 or 4 years. I'm up to 240, over my normal 200 lbs, which is in the normal range for a 6 footer. I also get laid at least twice a week. By my girlfriend. Who is a female. I've sure you've heard of those. I know you don't interact with many, judging by your musical tastes. Gain about 50 pounds, bathe, and stop buying your clothes at consignment shops in an attempt to be "ironic" and you might get laid too, Faggoty Ann.
Japan
06-19-2011, 02:13 AM
^^^^^^
you should try being skinny white and fine sometime, it works a little better than you realize
Bodeanicus
06-19-2011, 02:15 AM
^^^^^^
you should try being skinny white and fine sometime, it works a little better than you realize
I'm not interested in attracting dudes. No offense, it's not my thing.
Abacab "The REAL truth"
06-19-2011, 02:34 AM
ITT: Fat and aging old man can only remember one mainstream band from the 90's so that must define my perception of Abacab because he also wears flannel
Nope, it's better to be a fat ass with a jewfro than a walking skeleton faggot Alice In Chains video reject
P.S. Jerry Cantrell wants his clothes back.
We just can't possibly like anything with Dimebag in it! What would all my identical Jerry Cantrell looking, flannel wearing poser friends think!
d.
SUSUGAM
06-19-2011, 03:38 AM
ITT: desperately flailing faggots trying to prove that they're cooler, more clever, and more socially acceptable than the other faggots.
abegedun
06-19-2011, 04:09 AM
Morons
All
Of
You
Humerox
06-19-2011, 04:41 PM
hmmmm
off to regenerate my IQ bar.
Knuckle
06-19-2011, 05:39 PM
pic of butt
xshayla701
06-19-2011, 05:58 PM
because he also wears flannel
i like flannel :(
Abacab "The REAL truth"
06-19-2011, 06:02 PM
i like flannel :(
See? Akyra would totally sleep with me and that puts me at a level above all you other forum dwellers!!!
xshayla701
06-19-2011, 06:10 PM
See? Akyra would totally sleep with me and that puts me at a level above all you other forum dwellers!!!
well idk about all that o.o
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