ANGRY DAP KAREN

[sixoffive]

Out of nowhere a DAP druid starts sending me angry messages because apparently he didn't get a C2 sometime years ago I don't even remember.

Now he is outraged I offered c2 and enc mana buffs for a port.

Part 1

https://i.imgur.com/q1tUlDl.png

Part 2

https://i.imgur.com/BHERL4o.png

[Smoofers]

Typical DaP scum

[Smuuglie]

there seem to be a part missing before he randomly shouts though *shrug*

why the editing it out?

[sixoffive]

there seem to be a part missing before he randomly shouts though *shrug*

why the editing it out?

No editing. I only sent him a tell offering c2 and enc mana buffs for a port to cobalt scar.

[Shadowtagger32]

no shouts involved- poster has changed tell colour, obviously... and I don't see where you mean it was edited out...

[sixoffive]

This was the prequel of the convo.
https://i.imgur.com/HxZ6fxl.png

[Shadowtagger32]

OMG, so he started out ok, THEN went off???? good lord

[Chortles Snortles]

https://i.imgur.com/FlUCBmy.jpg

[Mazoku]

No images are loading for me. If this ever loads I'll see who it is. Otherwise I'm just going to say that Dial has and always will be a business. It is pay-for-ports and each porter can set prices for their services. That said, no one should be berating customers or players over buffs given or not. I'm hoping Ayleth can see this soon and fix it.

[Mazoku]

Got ahold of Ayleth and he said Shodud is not in Dial.

[starkind]

Woa. Plz use spoilers and trigger warnings.

[Shadowtagger32]

Got ahold of Ayleth and he said Shodud is not in Dial.

Not anymore LOL

[Grumph]

How do you think enc get so rich?

By tipping for ports instead of casting lvl 11 breeze or whatever?

LOL

[Chortles Snortles]

(lol)

[P99Druid]

While that whole rant was ridiculous, you should still tip on top of the c2! I pay 50-100p on top of c2 usually for a port, the c2 mana will be back before you run anywhere from the ring anyway so it definitely isn't a tip.

[Shadowtagger32]

While that whole rant was ridiculous, you should still tip on top of the c2! I pay 50-100p on top of c2 usually for a port, the c2 mana will be back before you run anywhere from the ring anyway so it definitely isn't a tip.

While true, if the port is accepted as offered, it is accepted as offered.... and as someone who does ports, if you ask for a port and offer less than reg rates, and I accept it, I'm not gonna get mad if you don't give me more than you offered... /shrug

[Grumph]

While true, if the port is accepted as offered, it is accepted as offered.... and as someone who does ports, if you ask for a port and offer less than reg rates, and I accept it, I'm not gonna get mad if you don't give me more than you offered... /shrug


If porters apologize everytime one of them is accused...


While portees just laugh if one of them is called out.


Wanna guess what will happen to the nation of porters?

[starkind]

Anyone ever anon as a wizard ask for a port. Then port the porter and log? 🧙*♀️🧝*♀️🔮✨

[PatChapp]

Anyone ever anon as a wizard ask for a port. Then port the porter and log? 🧙*♀️🧝*♀️🔮✨

This is big brain stuffs

[Trexller]

yeah whoever Shodud is, that guy is a piece of shit

thanks OP for showing us the true colors of this douche bag.

I added the name to my "no ench buffs list"

[PlsNoBan]

At what point did porting go from "donations appreciated but never required" to "if you dont tip me my expected rate I will sperg out about it in tells for 15 minutes"? Norrath has changed so much over the years

[Trexller]

At what point did porting go from "donations appreciated but never required" to "if you dont tip me my expected rate I will sperg out about it in tells for 15 minutes"? Norrath has changed so much over the years

there have always been greedy little bitches that don't know how to go out and farm valuable plat drops

back in the day like before velious dropped on green, I remember asking some halfling druid for a sow at the EC tunnel, only to be told:

The price of a sow is 10 plat

fuck those people.

[Mazoku]

At what point did porting go from "donations appreciated but never required" to "if you dont tip me my expected rate I will sperg out about it in tells for 15 minutes"? Norrath has changed so much over the years


It's always been ports for payments or ports for donation if you're not in Dial a Port. Mostly things change here and there but some things never change; and that one idiot /shouting or sperging out, is part of the cycle that never changes. There's always one bad apple out there but that doesn't make the whole guild bad.

[Trademarked]

The real crime here is having Tells set to red text. Move to resolved.

[Croco]

The real crime here is having Tells set to red text. Move to resolved.

[Bardp1999]

When i see these dial a port cartel members bitching about their precious "time" and then assigning a PP value to it I want to vomit. Suck shit threw a straw. Same goes to the cleric that wants 200 PP to click his fucking weapon.

[Tunabros]

tears were made

fists were thrown

no fucks were given

/thread

[Arvan]

When i see these dial a port cartel members bitching about their precious "time" and then assigning a PP value to it I want to vomit. Suck shit threw a straw. Same goes to the cleric that wants 200 PP to click his fucking weapon.

Filed under mad

[Kohedron]

not reading, sounds like they won though because you are tripped over yourself to cry about it on a dead message board for a dead game

[MaCtastic]

I’ve never seen an /auc with a price for ports, just asking for “donation’s”, what’s this standard price ya’ll are on about?

[Jimjam]

Tanked a few Faydwers for unguilded druids on blue and they never donated even 30pp. Was funny really.

[starkind]

TIL both bardp99 and Tunabros are communists and expect druids and clerics to everything for them.

[Andyman1022]

Shodud should level an enchanter to 60 to become filthy stinking rich instead of complaining about someone tipping with buffs.

[Teako]

If I have to log in, or zone a single time on your behalf against my will you're paying me.

Pay clerics for rezzes. Druids are whatever, because they're druid bots specifically for porting. But if you're eating 96%'s multiple zones away you need to be paying those clerics. That shit is wildly inconvenient for them, and saves you a huge amount of grinding.

Pay for your rezzes. ESPECIALLY if they're strangers.

[Jimjam]

If I have to log in, or zone a single time on your behalf against my will you're paying me.

Pay clerics for rezzes. Druids are whatever, because they're druid bots specifically for porting. But if you're eating 96%'s multiple zones away you need to be paying those clerics. That shit is wildly inconvenient for them, and saves you a huge amount of grinding.

Pay for your rezzes. ESPECIALLY if they're strangers.

Against your will? Wizards troll porting you to hate?

[strongNpretty]

Always tip the porter.. What do enchanter buffs do to somebody who is trying to make money through porting? Nobody is porting at such a rate they need more mana to keep up with clients..

But I will say that if the payment as buffs is made clear to the porter, then the porter needs to pay better attention to chat, and his customers

But seriously- Clarity for a port.. Ok maybe it pays for the mana consumed but it's not paying for the time. And lets be honest, it doesn't take all that much time to port somebody- BUT they are providing a service no matter the cost to them, and you need to pay them for it.

[Teako]

Against your will? Wizards troll porting you to hate?

"Please dude please it'll only take a minute I really need a rez I'm right at X thing I got a port set up for you and everything please just log your cleric on real quick"

Peer pressure exists, and sometimes the path of less resistance is to just do the thing against what you want to do with your day.

[Tunabros]

if you dont pay your porter, go uninstall the game

[Gustoo]

It's pretty stupid.

Pretending to do things for "tips" and then getting raged out when someone doesn't compensate you is a losers game.

When I go to rez people, I do it for free, or I tell a guy I need X amount of money to make the effort if I don't really want to or I hate the guy or something.

The "tips" and then "butthurt" is a stupid system. Trying to have their cake and eat it to. They don't wanna say "40pp per port" because they don't want to miss out on the 200pp tips, but they still rage when someone doesn't tip much and try to flex on them, it is pretty despicable and low.

My druid on blue is only like level 20 and I don't have a green character.

The tone of these conversations is gross though. Can we please get a red 2.0? thanks

[Gustoo]

Basically if you don't name a price, you can't get mad when you don't get as much as you wanted. Choose to be cool and chill and work for tips, or just name a price and get paid in advanced like a normal business person. Trying to have it both ways clearly just gets you stressed out and loses friends, and makes dial a port look like a buncha fucking idiot losers.

[Jimjam]

"Please dude please it'll only take a minute I really need a rez I'm right at X thing I got a port set up for you and everything please just log your cleric on real quick"

Peer pressure exists, and sometimes the path of less resistance is to just do the thing against what you want to do with your day.

Indentured servidruid.

[Tunabros]

Basically if you don't name a price, you can't get mad when you don't get as much as you wanted. Choose to be cool and chill and work for tips, or just name a price and get paid in advanced like a normal business person. Trying to have it both ways clearly just gets you stressed out and loses friends, and makes dial a port look like a buncha fucking idiot losers.

are u brain dead lol?

oh wait you post a red thread every week

[Chortles Snortles]

https://i.imgur.com/Liqro6i.jpg

[apathe]

Nothing wrong with offering buffs for a port, so long as you do so up front.

[mattydef]

The amount of times i've had people take a TL without paying, lol. Oh well, shit happens, it all balances out in the end because most people on the server are pretty generous with their tips.

[Arvan]

<Great expense of my time> Now recruiting!

[Gustoo]

are u brain dead lol?

oh wait you post a red thread every week

I have to admit I didn't read the whole thread.

What I was trying to say is that having a "service" for "tips" means you need to take the "bad tips" with the "good tips" and not be a complainy weirdo.

The other option is to have a "service" for "a fee" which means you state a price and get paid in advance, and everyone is happy with nothing to whine about.

Because I made Gustoo as a helpful character, I usually will rez people for free if I am just farting around in the game (that was not dead yet) or accept money for the longer trickier work. But I never went into a job expecting a "tip" for an unspecified amount of money while gearing up my angst to be dumped on the "bad tipper" because that would be stupid.

Ya new red would be nice, you're right on that point.

[Ennewi]

Indentured servidr00d.

[Ennewi]

But seriously- Clarity for a port.. Ok maybe it pays for the mana consumed but it's not paying for the time. And lets be honest, it doesn't take all that much time to port somebody- BUT they are providing a service no matter the cost to them, and you need to pay them for it.

WTT cab ride for a 5 gallon gas can, freshly siphoned, comes with hose.

[strongNpretty]

WTT cab ride for a 5 gallon gas can, freshly siphoned, comes with hose.

Bahaha

[Jimjam]

WTT cab ride for a 5 gallon gas can, freshly siphoned, comes with hose.

:D The platless clarity tip, while appreciated, does feel a bit like “working for exposure”!

[radda]

did you C2 Mostaffa?
why did you reply to Jeffrica with okay after their thanks?
....

[sixoffive]

Jeffrica was just a random person who asked for a c2 and I gave them one in CS for no tip. Mostaffa got one he's a guy on an event I was going to.

[Mazoku]

Ports should be 1 plat per level or 50 plat per port. Succor costs 100 because it sucks up a lot of mana and is dangerous. Porting takes time and that time should be compensated for based on what the porter rates the person for. If they don't set a rate then they have to take what they're given. Dial doesn't do donations or tips, they do payments. If individual porters in Dial didn't set prices then that is on them. The guild is a business model and as a business it costs money to run it. Dial a Port is working on a tailor and that's really expensive, I've heard the other guilds complain about tailoring costing 85k and yet Dial has to front that money for a service to provide. Do you all complain about paying for food at restaurants too? You pay for the food at the restaurant and then you tip on top of that. Why should ports be free?

[Rethalis]

Ports should be 1 plat per level or 50 plat per port. Succor costs 100 because it sucks up a lot of mana and is dangerous. Porting takes time and that time should be compensated for based on what the porter rates the person for. If they don't set a rate then they have to take what they're given. Dial doesn't do donations or tips, they do payments. If individual porters in Dial didn't set prices then that is on them. The guild is a business model and as a business it costs money to run it. Dial a Port is working on a tailor and that's really expensive, I've heard the other guilds complain about tailoring costing 85k and yet Dial has to front that money for a service to provide. Do you all complain about paying for food at restaurants too? You pay for the food at the restaurant and then you tip on top of that. Why should ports be free?

A restaurant is an actual business. Not a game, judging by the forums way too many people treat this game like real life.

[Smoofers]

Ports should be 1 plat per level or 50 plat per port. Succor costs 100 because it sucks up a lot of mana and is dangerous. Porting takes time and that time should be compensated for based on what the porter rates the person for. If they don't set a rate then they have to take what they're given. Dial doesn't do donations or tips, they do payments. If individual porters in Dial didn't set prices then that is on them. The guild is a business model and as a business it costs money to run it. Dial a Port is working on a tailor and that's really expensive, I've heard the other guilds complain about tailoring costing 85k and yet Dial has to front that money for a service to provide. Do you all complain about paying for food at restaurants too? You pay for the food at the restaurant and then you tip on top of that. Why should ports be free?

What does DAP's guild taylor have to do with pricing? I couldn't care less about what they're funding.

Here's a quick less on how pricing works: I started by giving 50pp, then reduced it by 5pp each time until I started hearing complaints. The magic number is 20pp - that's how much ports are worth.

[Rager and Quitter]

Damn, you nerds will argue about anything on this game.

[Mazoku]

A restaurant is an actual business. Not a game, judging by the forums way too many people treat this game like real life.

Well it certainly takes real life time to play this game and it takes real life time to med that mana for ports.

[greasemonk]

Well it certainly takes real life time to play this game and it takes real life time to med that mana for ports.

Simple solution: Quit playing.

[PlsNoBan]

Boycott tipping for ports. Show those greedy fuckin porters who's boss. Maybe they'll go earn elf currency some other way like a normal person

[xdrcfrx]

Damn, you nerds will argue about anything on this game.

[Tunabros]

if you dont tip me, I will port you to skyfire mountains and not sow you

[Crawdad]

Ports should be 1 plat per level or 50 plat per port. Succor costs 100 because it sucks up a lot of mana and is dangerous.

For the most part people on Blue are very generous tippers. I don't think most people realize how much plat you can make if you're actively trying to port people. ~340 mana earning ~50p while being mostly AFK adds up real fast.

That said fuck succoring, I avoid doing them when at all possible unless I see someone WTB for a longgg time or get a direct request. Way too much of a time investment and either it takes forever to meet up/run/succor or they pay 20p.

[Mazoku]

For the most part people on Blue are very generous tippers. I don't think most people realize how much plat you can make if you're actively trying to port people. ~340 mana earning ~50p while being mostly AFK adds up real fast.

That said fuck succoring, I avoid doing them when at all possible unless I see someone WTB for a longgg time or get a direct request. Way too much of a time investment and either it takes forever to meet up/run/succor or they pay 20p.

Blue is very different. On Green it seems that half the people want Dial to be a free bus with optional payments which is both sad and insulting to the people working Dial.

[Jimjam]

We’re not working, we’re playing a game. Possibly at work.

[Fawqueue]

We’re not working, we’re playing a game. Possibly at work.

Oh, some people are working. The longer you follow server drama, the more of those you'll see get caught doing just that.

[Gustoo]

TLDR: A bunch of penny pinching weirdos get mad at other penny pinching weirdos in 1999 elf sim.

Problem would be 100% resolved if porter stopped pretending to do the work for "tips" and went ahead and just listed a price. If you're doing it for "the generosity of the customer" than you aren't allowed to rage when someone doesn't throw down the big plat.

This thread is laughs I feel like a russian troller is here trying to get p99 community irate at eachother.

Strongly considering making a druid to assist these goofballs.

[starkind]

I'm still a big fan of porting the porters. U can demand payment after, or even do it for free. Both are equally funny lol.

[Tethler]

Boycott tipping for ports. Show those greedy fuckin porters who's boss. Maybe they'll go earn elf currency some other way like a normal person

Excellent idea. Come back in a week and let us know how the boat rides were.

I consider paying for ports to be paying for the time it saves me to not take the boat. Same with rezzes, they save me the time of not re-grinding that xp. It doesn't matter how much or little effort/time/mana it costs the person providing the service, what matters is the benefit I get from their service, and that benefit is worth my plat.

[Jibartik]

lol someone tipped op 100pp while this druid was crying about not getting a tip lol

[Tunabros]

Boycott tipping for ports. Show those greedy fuckin porters who's boss. Maybe they'll go earn elf currency some other way like a normal person

how about druids boycott porting you ungrateful fucks? have fun using boats lol

[starkind]

We should ride share.

[greenspectre]

Agree with OP here, if he said "port for C2 and mana buffs?" and the porter said "sure" then that's on him. To follow the restaurant analogy, if you offer the owner a carton of eggs for a $20 meal and he says yes, he can't exactly get mad at you when you give him exactly that.

[Reiwa]

I'm still a big fan of porting the porters. U can demand payment after, or even do it for free. Both are equally funny lol.

In addition to your prior idea, it would be pretty fun to demand payment from porters after they deliver you, if the discussed terms were ambiguous. :p

Food for thot.

[starkind]

:p :o

[Chortles Snortles]

druids are basically elf buskers
(lol)

[Jimjam]

druids are basically elf buskers
(lol)

more like hookers cos they accept the tip to 'get you there'.

[Grapeape]

Just say "no" Butt hurt dap could have used 2 letters instead of 18 tells

[Smoofers]

how about druids boycott porting you ungrateful fucks? have fun using boats lol

The problem with this idea is that druids and wizards are a dime a dozen on this server, and there are a huge numbers outside of DaP. This is another reason why people pay significantly less than 50pp for a port.

[Chortles Snortles]

tunadunk’d

[Tunabros]

The problem with this idea is that druids and wizards are a dime a dozen on this server, and there are a huge numbers outside of DaP. This is another reason why people pay significantly less than 50pp for a port.

the majority of the blue population have more than enough than to pay "50p" for a port

I myself tip 100 if I can. If you are level 60 and you aren't tipping, you're fucking poor

and bad at the game

Hell, any level above 30 and you aren't tipping at 30p, you're just an asshole

[Gustoo]

Again it is pretty straight forward. Don't try to guilt or shame people into paying more than they want to for a port. Just ask a price, and let them eat dirt if they don't want to pay the price.

Complaining that your "charity" "donations" "tips" are not high enough, is invalid, since you chose to base your happiness on an unspecified sum that you feel is mandatory though never needs mentioning.

I am just theoryquesting I pay a million plat for a port when I want or need one. I agree that being stingey is rude, but getting upset when you don't name a price is stupid.

[starkind]

Porting for plat on the Sabbath is also a tsktsk move.

[Tunabros]

Again it is pretty straight forward. Don't try to guilt or shame people into paying more than they want to for a port. Just ask a price, and let them eat dirt if they don't want to pay the price.

Complaining that your "charity" "donations" "tips" are not high enough, is invalid, since you chose to base your happiness on an unspecified sum that you feel is mandatory though never needs mentioning.

I am just theoryquesting I pay a million plat for a port when I want or need one. I agree that being stingey is rude, but getting upset when you don't name a price is stupid.

lol? do you see waiters telling customers to tip them a specific amount?

it's just common fucking courtesy

[Gustoo]

Waiters are paid a salary + tips and don't have an option to tell each table "you're gunna give me 30% tip or you can take a fucking hike.

Everquest druids can do whatever the fuck they want and they choose to complain about the size of the "donations" they receive.

[Gustoo]

in either case, I do personally believe in courtesy.

I just don't have much sympathy for a complaining port-for-plat guy who doesn't get as much as he wanted, when he doesn't specify how much is required not to make him irate.

[Smoofers]

the majority of the blue population have more than enough than to pay "50p" for a port

I myself tip 100 if I can. If you are level 60 and you aren't tipping, you're fucking poor

and bad at the game

Hell, any level above 30 and you aren't tipping at 30p, you're just an asshole

I'm level 60 and I tip 20pp, not because I'm poor, but because that has been deemed an acceptable amount by the wizards and druids on this server.

If you're tipping 100pp when you could be tipping 20pp, then you are most likely poor and bad at the game. Do you understand how that works?

[cd288]

I mean on the one hand anyone is obviously welcome to take a deal of a buff only for a port. On the other, do you really want to nickel and dime people?

[cd288]

I'm level 60 and I tip 20pp, not because I'm poor, but because that has been deemed an acceptable amount by the wizards and druids on this server.

If you're tipping 100pp when you could be tipping 20pp, then you are most likely poor and bad at the game. Do you understand how that works?

If a geared out level 60 tipped me 20pp I probably wouldn’t port them again lol

[Smoofers]

If a geared out level 60 tipped me 20pp I probably wouldn’t port them again lol

But others would. That's my point

[Crede]

Tbh I’m not sure why c2 for a port is considered an insult. That c2 equates to how many port casts in its timeline? Seems like a win for the druid imo. Never understood the point per level thing. Just because I’m 60 doesn’t mean I’m farming pp like crazy. Getting paid 25-30pp for basically not moving and casting a spell or 2 is more pp/minute than most classes can actually do on their own.

[Tethler]

If a geared out level 60 tipped me 20pp I probably wouldn’t port them again lol

[Tunabros]

If you're tipping 100pp when you could be tipping 20pp, then you are most likely poor and bad at the game. Do you understand how that works?

that makes no sense

read that to yourself again

[Stonewallx39]

The people want to know the story behind stiffing this cleric after a rez!

[greasemonk]

This fucking thread is 10 fucking pages?

Yall mother fuckers need Jesus.

[Topgunben]

It’s business. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Smoofers]

that makes no sense

read that to yourself again

Do you go to a restaurant and tip 80% of the bill? Or would that be considered bad financial discipline?

[Tunabros]

Do you go to a restaurant and tip 80% of the bill? Or would that be considered bad financial discipline?

jesus christ, you are really dense. If you are level 60, geared, and spend hundreds of hours on this server, and you pay "20 p" to a druid porting you

you are poor and probably bad at the game (just kill like 5 guards...boom 50 p right there)

Druids aren't porting you for free or for fun lol

if you are really complaining about a service that druids are taking time to do for you,

then you don't deserve ports

try using a boat next time or your jboots

[Trexller]

I'm level 60 and I tip 20pp, not because I'm poor, but because that has been deemed an acceptable amount by the wizards and druids on this server.

If you're tipping 100pp when you could be tipping 20pp, then you are most likely poor and bad at the game. Do you understand how that works?

take note students, this is what we commonly refer to as "a cheap ass bastard"

don't ever port or buff this guy, and if he bears your guild tag, you should fix that.

[Zoggren]

But others would. That's my point

Do you hand each porter a copy of Atlas Shrugged as well?

[Trexller]

But others would. That's my point

No, you don't have a point. you're just cheap as shit and you suck as a human being.

[Toxigen]

If you're tipping 100pp when you could be tipping 20pp, then you are most likely poor and bad at the game. Do you understand how that works?

lol

[Jimjam]

On a level 55 warrior I tipped 30pp for a port, and then asked for a transfer (all characters in the same zone) and tipped a further 30. Is that reasonable? Was that too little for the port / too much for the transfer / reasonable over all?

[starkind]

This fucking thread is 10 fucking pages?

Yall mother fuckers need Jesus.

https://i.imgur.com/8RSAiWz.jpeg

[Trexller]

On a level 55 warrior I tipped 30pp for a port, and then asked for a transfer (all characters in the same zone) and tipped a further 30. Is that reasonable? Was that too little for the port / too much for the transfer / reasonable over all?

absolutely should have tipped more, closer to 50 and 50

plat is not rare, and is easy as fuck to farm.

i'm starting to think that alot of you are black or european IRL

[strongNpretty]

Tip your character level chumps!!!! It's the most simple answer to this problem...

[starkind]

I feel like I maybe have 1k plat combined across all three servers and like 17 characters.

Ya'll asking me to tip 50p are means.

BTW I always ask if I can get a Freeport. And sometimes tip 10-20p.

[Gustoo]

If I go and take my time to level up a free porting Druid on green just to turd on these jerkwads I’m gunna be very grateful for a clarity because I’m not gunna have a manastone and the only thing that’s going to be holding me back is my med time.

I agree though this thread is hilarious. If anyone in the outside world cared about eq they would make sketch comedy about this

[Smoofers]

jesus christ, you are really dense. If you are level 60, geared, and spend hundreds of hours on this server, and you pay "20 p" to a druid porting you

you are poor and probably bad at the game (just kill like 5 guards...boom 50 p right there)

Druids aren't porting you for free or for fun lol

if you are really complaining about a service that druids are taking time to do for you,

then you don't deserve ports

try using a boat next time or your jboots

The druids I pay 20pp to port me seem to disagree. And I'm not complaining about their service, I'm telling you that you can pay 20pp and not more. Doing this over a long time period means you have more money yourself in the end. Not sure how else I can say it.

Please try to calm down.

[Chortles Snortles]

p-p-p-p-p-please tip me for my services
(lol)

[ReoDobbs]

TLDR:

OP is a cheap fuck.

Porter is dumb for accepting pre agreed to terms.

Pretty much everyone did the normal RnF thing of piling on a guild when the opportunity presented itself

[Trazic]

If I go and take my time to level up a free porting Druid on green

This sounds great! Well, until you get bored and realize you are wasting your time and logout. Then you will have to come back to reality from the magical fairly land that only exists inside of the head of the deranged.

In the meantime the rest of us will continue donating 50p for ports because we value others time and not just our own. Coincidentally this will also subsidize the ports of people like smoofers because if everyone tipped exactly 20p I am pretty sure the service would dry up pretty quickly.

Frankly I really appreciate the service. The amount of time it actually saves me is incredible. Imagine running from WC to CS.

[Tunabros]

The druids I pay 20pp to port me seem to disagree. And I'm not complaining about their service, I'm telling you that you can pay 20pp and not more. Doing this over a long time period means you have more money yourself in the end. Not sure how else I can say it.

Please try to calm down.

take note students, this is what we commonly refer to as "a cheap ass bastard"

don't ever port or buff this guy, and if he bears your guild tag, you should fix that.

[Arvan]

absolutely should have tipped more, closer to 50 and 50

plat is not rare, and is easy as fuck to farm.

i'm starting to think that alot of you are black or european IRL

You’re right - plat is easy to farm so go farm more if you don’t like your tip

See it works both ways

[Smoofers]

Tunabros, it's apparent you're upset since you're lashing out and pushing to cancel me in a 22 year old elf simulator. I'm sorry to hear my stance offends you. You can do better, though.

[Tunabros]

Tunabros, it's apparent you're upset since you're lashing out and pushing to cancel me in a 22 year old elf simulator. I'm sorry to hear my stance offends you. You can do better, though.

translation: I am poor

[Worry]

I pay 100p usually a port, it's very convenient. Literally can save up to 30 minutes of your session. I had no clue people paid 20 lol, that's awful.

[Jimjam]

absolutely should have tipped more, closer to 50 and 50

plat is not rare, and is easy as fuck to farm.

i'm starting to think that alot of you are black or european IRL

Hmm i thought 60pp total for both was pretty generous. I’ve never had anyone tip me for item transfers before so i’ll be sure to request the standard 50pp fee upfront hereonin. Thanks for correcting me on that.

[wagorf]

sorry 20pp is just way too fuckin cheap, unless you are new

pay the daps well so the service doesn't discontinue. there are hardly any daps in non peak hours now and i blame you cheap fucks

[Smoofers]

sorry 20pp is just way too fuckin cheap, unless you are new

pay the daps well so the service doesn't discontinue. there are hardly any daps in non peak hours now and i blame you cheap fucks

Most porters are in their 30s or 40s, so I'll use hill giants as an example of an equivalent way to make platinum. How much mana does it take to kill a hill giant, which gives an average of 25pp in plat and droppables? How much mana does it take to port someone? I'll let you do the math, it's not difficult.

Hope this helps.

[mattydef]

I always pay 50p or more for a port, but I never ask or expect that much when i'm porting on my wizard.

[Gustoo]

tunabros = shodud

sorry

[Chortles Snortles]

imagine rolling a begging players for elf money class
(lol)

[Tunabros]

hey guys come watch my stream where I die in guk (lol)

[Chortles Snortles]

https://i.imgur.com/DNW5cfF.png

[Jimjam]

Watching shiz hit the fan is way more interesting than seeing the same thing over and over. More to learn from too.

Love the avatar atm btw Charli!

[Ennewi]

https://i.imgur.com/uru0VyQ.gif

[Chortles Snortles]

https://i.imgur.com/NZbeuFZ.gif

[Nocht]

Clarity is a helluva drug

[Tethler]

Most porters are in their 30s or 40s, so I'll use hill giants as an example of an equivalent way to make platinum. How much mana does it take to kill a hill giant, which gives an average of 25pp in plat and droppables? How much mana does it take to port someone? I'll let you do the math, it's not difficult.

Hope this helps.

How much time did you save by porting compared to running/boating? Did it save you 10 minutes? 30? Do you value your time? Tip taking the time you saved/recovered into consideration. That's what you're receiving. The mana spent by the porter is irrelevant.

The time saved by the recipient for ports/rezzes is why those services came to be a service valued enough to tip for to begin with.

[Reiwa]

How much time did you save by porting compared to running/boating? Did it save you 10 minutes? 30? Do you value your time? Tip taking the time you saved/recovered into consideration. That's what you're receiving. The mana spent by the porter is irrelevant.

The time saved by the recipient for ports/rezzes is why those services came to be a service valued enough to tip for to begin with.

Also hostile PNP players yelling at you for "stealing my giant".

Porting sounds better.

[Chortles Snortles]

https://i.imgur.com/VPNqOEk.jpg

[Smoofers]

How much time did you save by porting compared to running/boating? Did it save you 10 minutes? 30? Do you value your time? Tip taking the time you saved/recovered into consideration. That's what you're receiving. The mana spent by the porter is irrelevant.

The time saved by the recipient for ports/rezzes is why those services came to be a service valued enough to tip for to begin with.

Agreed. And it's worth 20pp to me and to the average porter.

[Toxigen]

Agreed. And it's worth 20pp to me and to the average porter.

It still doesn't change the fact that you're a cheap fuck.

[Tunabros]

Agreed. And it's worth 20pp to me and to the average porter.

you are either a cheap bastard or poor as hell

probably both

[Smoofers]

It still doesn't change the fact that you're a cheap fuck.

It's so strange that being "cheap" is considered an insult. I look at people IRL that spend beyond their means on things like cars, takeout food, high end phones, and I can't help feel pity. Is the smug self-satisfaction of giving waiters 40% tips worth not having a nest egg for when you're too old to work? I don't get it.

And yes, we're talking about a game here, but the same general principle applies.

If me tipping the minimum acceptable amount for ports makes me cheap in your eyes, then so be it. I don't really respect people that make poor financial decisions, and it's hard to feel insulted by someone you don't respect.

[Chortles Snortles]

haha you saved your money
(lol)

[Tunabros]

It's so strange that being "cheap" is considered an insult. I look at people IRL that spend beyond their means on things like cars, takeout food, high end phones, and I can't help feel pity. Is the smug self-satisfaction of giving waiters 40% tips worth not having a nest egg for when you're too old to work? I don't get it.

And yes, we're talking about a game here, but the same general principle applies.

If me tipping the minimum acceptable amount for ports makes me cheap in your eyes, then so be it. I don't really respect people that make poor financial decisions, and it's hard to feel insulted by someone you don't respect.

ok cheap bastard

[Smoofers]

Updated my profile location to reflect this

[Tunabros]

cant relate

[Old_PVP]

It's so strange that being "cheap" is considered an insult. I look at people IRL that spend beyond their means on things like cars, takeout food, high end phones, and I can't help feel pity. Is the smug self-satisfaction of giving waiters 40% tips worth not having a nest egg for when you're too old to work? I don't get it.

And yes, we're talking about a game here, but the same general principle applies.

If me tipping the minimum acceptable amount for ports makes me cheap in your eyes, then so be it. I don't really respect people that make poor financial decisions, and it's hard to feel insulted by someone you don't respect.

I'm with you buddy. Tip culture is cancer. Shit, even places like Panera bread have tip lines on the receipts now. So I'm expected to tip cause you punched my order into a register? "They are providing you a service!" - I hate that argument. Almost EVERYONE is providing a service, yet society doesn't tip them. People don't tip their dentists, their nurses, electricians, Amazon delivery drivers. Just select industries like food? LOL. Fuck'em.

Porting on Red for FREE. Cause I'm a helpful fucker, and don't rely on tips to get by.

[Ennewi]

https://i.imgur.com/camqumL.jpg

[layhousehours]

if you rely on tips to survive in your field of work, your employer is pocketing what should be your paycheck have a good day

[Tethler]

It's so strange that being "cheap" is considered an insult. I look at people IRL that spend beyond their means on things like cars, takeout food, high end phones, and I can't help feel pity. Is the smug self-satisfaction of giving waiters 40% tips worth not having a nest egg for when you're too old to work? I don't get it.

And yes, we're talking about a game here, but the same general principle applies.



Not really. The only retirement in EQ is quitting, and you need 0 plat for that. You don't need to spend plat to continue "living" in-game, and you have no bills. All plat is discretionary income. Bad analogy.

[starkind]

Periodits ain't cheap.

[Jimjam]

Periodits ain't cheap.
I think this issue was resolved in the 'Dial A Raid' thread - where in we discovered that MQ loot rights cost lots of PP because PP is only used for consumables (such as peridots) ... casting aego on 50 characters and associated recharges every bat phones begins to add up!

[Tethler]

Periodits ain't cheap.

Peridots aren't really needed in non-raid content, and if your guild doesn't reimburse your raid-use dots...lol

[cd288]

Smoofers if you’re so confident about your opinion here, why don’t you list all of your character names for porters to be aware of

[Reiwa]

Smoofers if you’re so confident about your opinion here, why don’t you list all of your character names for porters to be aware of

You tryna cancel him, Lib? 😼

[Chortles Snortles]

imagine paying for a port
(lol)

[applesauce25r624]

something tells me tunabros starts off a lot of sentences IRL with "my wife's boyfriend"

[Chortles Snortles]

LEAVE MY WIFES BOYFRIENDS NAME OUTTA YOUR MOUF

[Jimjam]

something tells me tunabros starts off a lot of sentences IRL with "my wife's boyfriend"

Take it easy on the kid - you don't know what stuff he may be going through IRL.

[Geaux]

Privileged?

Entitled?

OP apparently is sooooooooooooooo cheap, he is spamming porters, probably has a button saved so he can click it.

Rather than go to a DAP leader with a concern, he posted the WOKE TRIGGER thread in an apparent effort to seek attention, not realizing that others would see this for what it...pathetic!

A member of Castle? Is this representative of Castle? I certainly did not think it was...

[dareo]

Wow, did someone offer you 100pp for a C2? Seems like a lot. 11 mana/tick for 35 mins is what 3850 mana if the person is not full mana? Druid coulda just said no. I like to give people clarity as much as i possibly can but thats just my prerogative.

[conjuror]

not reading, sounds like they won though because you are tripped over yourself to cry about it on a dead message board for a dead game

lol this message board is hardly dead.

[conjuror]

The real crime here is having Tells set to red text. Move to resolved.
lol just sickening. Reading the private messages in red made me nervous and gave me Agita. :eek::):rolleyes:

[conjuror]

People are free to enter into bad contracts. If you correct a woke Karen for publicizing and attempting to embarrass a woke Karen, then you're obviously a Keauxren. ;)

AAANNDD you're a jew baby-loving, arms bearing, DeSantis-ite with good intentions and the RIGHT political view. Let's go BRANDON! :cool:

[Geaux]

Wow, did someone offer you 100pp for a C2? Seems like a lot. 11 mana/tick for 35 mins is what 3850 mana if the person is not full mana? Druid coulda just said no. I like to give people clarity as much as i possibly can but thats just my prerogative.

Druid did say no. Druid could have said "Mr Castle, please stop asking me to port for buffs, I have told you I do this to earn money, like crafters do as an example, and my time is worth money".

Instead, Druid got frustrated by Mr Castle, who had instantly already asked another player for port, before Druid had even responded. (makes me wonder if the request was intended to upset the Druid, as Mr Castle did not even wait for the reply before asking another)

I imagine that the previous refusal to C2 the Druid would upset anyone, if Mr Castle was C2ing others and blew the Druid's request off and ignored him. All sorts of possibilities...

[Chortles Snortles]

https://i.imgur.com/NZbeuFZ.gif

[Seidin]

Not much to add to this that hasn't already been hashed out but here's the DAP rules that would apply here.

They didn't agree on a price so really whatever the porter gets they get, a few folks mentioned you just take the good with the bad and that's honestly the way to do it. S Sometimes getting a C2 is great when it's busy, sometimes you port one person in a 2 hour window so it's less useful than you'd think. Either way it's a game, sperging out seems like a weird path forward.

4 Greed will not be tolerated of any kind! You may set your own prices for ports or other services, but do not argue with a client over the fare received if the price was not agreed upon initially. You will get stiffed from time to time but just bite your tongue and move on.

7 Avoid the words "donations" or "tips" when advertising your services as we are a pay-for-port service and those words can have mixed meanings. We do however encourage members to advertise free CRs and help lowbies and new members as much as possible.

[Geaux]

Not much to add to this that hasn't already been hashed out but here's the DAP rules that would apply here.

They didn't agree on a price so really whatever the porter gets they get, a few folks mentioned you just take the good with the bad and that's honestly the way to do it. S Sometimes getting a C2 is great when it's busy, sometimes you port one person in a 2 hour window so it's less useful than you'd think. Either way it's a game, sperging out seems like a weird path forward.

4 Greed will not be tolerated of any kind! You may set your own prices for ports or other services, but do not argue with a client over the fare received if the price was not agreed upon initially. You will get stiffed from time to time but just bite your tongue and move on.

7 Avoid the words "donations" or "tips" when advertising your services as we are a pay-for-port service and those words can have mixed meanings. We do however encourage members to advertise free CRs and help lowbies and new members as much as possible.

I wonder if Castle has any rules for their members?

[Smoofers]

Not once in my 10 years of playing on the server has a porter set or mentioned the price of the port beforehand. If they don't receive the payment they expect, then whose fault is that?

[Blingy]

Periodits ain't cheap.

Keep a stack of cats eye agates for this purpose.

[Jimjam]

Not once in my 10 years of playing on the server has a porter set or mentioned the price of the port beforehand. If they don't receive the payment they expect, then whose fault is that?

When I’m on my blue wizard and feel like porting I advertise ports as 30pp each (excluding planes). The funniest thing is the number of people that claim “they would have paid more” if i “wasn’t greedy” and advertised ports for free/donations :rolleyes:

[Gustoo]

When I’m on my blue wizard and feel like porting I advertise ports as 30pp each (excluding planes). The funniest thing is the number of people that claim “they would have paid more” if i “wasn’t greedy” and advertised ports for free/donations :rolleyes:

I fully believe that to be the case.

[cd288]

Not once in my 10 years of playing on the server has a porter set or mentioned the price of the port beforehand. If they don't receive the payment they expect, then whose fault is that?

What are the names of your characters? If you’re so confident that you’re right, why not post who you are??

[Geaux]

What are the names of your characters? If you’re so confident that you’re right, why not post who you are??

Perhaps he meant 10 months as his join date would indicate? Or maybe I am just extremely, um, lucky? My very first port with someone from DAP, the guy told me he was supposed to ask for 1p per level, but he made exceptions for new players.

I had been playing 2 weeks.

[Smoofers]

That guy was grooming you to become a "good tipper", AKA a chump.

Pro tip: if you throw all of your wearable gear in your bags you can get free ports by claiming you're on a corpse run.

[PlsNoBan]

Pro tip: if you throw all of your wearable gear in your bags you can get free ports by claiming you're on a corpse run.

This guy fucks

Enough with these entitled dru/wiz expecting med/large pp tips for casting a spell. Not everyone has 500kpp on their mule from doing nothing with their life but play P99 for years on end.

[Ennewi]

FHOHuGftRCA

[Tethler]

When I’m on my blue wizard and feel like porting I advertise ports as 30pp each (excluding planes). The funniest thing is the number of people that claim “they would have paid more” if i “wasn’t greedy” and advertised ports for free/donations :rolleyes:

If I'm on one of my 50+ characters, I tip 50p minimum for a port, and have tipped 100-200p if the porter is going out of their way (like picking me up from OT and they run from skyfire to get me). I do occasionally get someone saying something like this, and I just go, "ok" and tip them the 30 or whatever.

In general, I'm generous with my tips, but people that set a price get that price and no more. That's just me though. Overall, I'd guess you're correct to be skeptical. I was in DAP for a while when I was new to the server and the amount of cheap-asses is pretty high. Can't count the number of times someone would ask me to go pick up their "twink" from field of bone and then tip me 4 plat and 30 gold or some stupid shit.

[unsunghero]

Pro tip: if you throw all of your wearable gear in your bags you can get free ports by claiming you're on a corpse run.

My first long corpse run (think I died in FV but was bound in lavastorm) I ran all the way to the FP bank naked to pick up tip money, then ran all the way to the EC tunnel. I also always tip 1pp per my level

The porter didn’t accept the tip money, telling me CR’s didn’t need it. Almost kinda wanted them to at that point because otherwise it felt like I wasted my time running to go take the money out, but I didn’t push it

Tipping with a buff is cheap shit IMO. Money is always useful while a buff may not be, depending on what the porter planned on doing after. I also would always just buff literally anyone (warriors, monks, rogues, I don’t give a shit) with clarity when I passed them

[Valura]

one time someone with a dain ring and sow sword didnt tip me D: