<Ring a Rez> is now recruiting, the rezzers version of <Dial a Port>!

[AdrenolineLove]

Recruiting Clerics, Paladins and Necromancers of all levels and origins to join us in becoming part of something this community is missing - rezzes for tips.

Gone are the days of desperately sliding in DMs of random clerics who didn't bother to /role. <Ring a Rez> will happily come out and rez you for tips, the same way Dial a Port will!

We are just getting established so if this takes off hopefully we can work something mutually beneficial out with the members of <Dial a Port> so we can travel and provide rezzes for people all across Norrath.

Contact a member to join today!

Glitterr / Glitterheal
Joebin#3804 on discord

[Trexller]

<Dial a Port> has shared cleric bots that do this...

the clerics that go out to rez people still need ports, so you can't do this without druids/wizards.

why don't you guys just make a guild that serves all utility roles, period?

some sort of <One Stop Shop> for ports, rezzes, buffs, item transfers, corpse retrievals, power levelling etc

you guys would also be able to fill ranks on open/allied raids, so this "utility guild" would have raiding opportunities as well

[AdrenolineLove]

Youre just describing a normal guild Trexxler. Its easier to just get established as the rez for tips guild and then work with Dial.

[Trexller]

nah not a guild, you wouldn't have any melee

you'd be a utility guild

transportation is just as/more important than the rezzer

a cleric stuck in west wastes can't do much otherwise

[cd288]

Yeah I mean it’s an okay idea of DAP didn’t have guild clerics that they can log onto in a split second. Speaking as someone who has a DAP char, why would I partner with your guild instead of using my guilds cleric? That’s money that goes to you and not to me/my guild.

Speaking as someone who might need a rez, why would I go through your guild for that? If I message DAP they show up with a guild cleric in two seconds. If I message you then I have to wait for you to find a port or have you go through DAP to get to me. Not only do I now have to use two groups instead of one, but I now have to either reimburse you for your point cost or pay DAP for porting you when they generally don’t make you pay for 100% of both if you go through DAP.

[Tunabros]

then the clerics would be funding dap to get to the actual body to rez lol

in the end only dap wins

[onlyrockerfan]

this is just the 2.0 version of <Hospice>. that utility guild never got off the ground. but hopefully it works out for ya

[Nomadic Plainswalker]

Good idea. Good luck trying something new. We need more of that.

[Wall O Lead]

Once every year, someone has the big brain idea to start a rezz guild. Also once a year it completely fails.

[Fawqueue]

Once every year, someone has the big brain idea to start a rezz guild. Also once a year it completely fails.

Largely because 99% of active Clerics aren't going to pick some utility guild over literally any other guild on the server that they can get invited to at the snap of a finger. DAP works because there's an abundance of Druids that aren't exactly buried under a mountain of other guild invites.

[cd288]

Largely because 99% of active Clerics aren't going to pick some utility guild over literally any other guild on the server that they can get invited to at the snap of a finger. DAP works because there's an abundance of Druids that aren't exactly buried under a mountain of other guild invites.

True and also because DAP already has guild clerics ready to be used for this purpose. The niche is already filled

[iplayeq]

True and also because DAP already has guild clerics ready to be used for this purpose. The niche is already filled

From what I understand(I could be incorrect), there is only one cleric in DaP on green and only certain people have access to it. It would be nice to find a guild that only on rez.

[ReoDobbs]

From what I understand(I could be incorrect), there is only one cleric in DaP on green and only certain people have access to it. It would be nice to find a guild that only on rez.

Pretty much this, while this service is offered by DaP it is not frequent nor consistent when this is offered. I think DAP is overestimating their ability to provide these rezzes in this thread.

[Tunabros]

everyone has this huge idea but no one actually commits or want to do it

everyone knows the tip will be ass

[Fawqueue]

From what I understand(I could be incorrect), there is only one cleric in DaP on green and only certain people have access to it. It would be nice to find a guild that only on rez.

Sort of. Only certain people have access to it, but it's actually quite easy to become one of those people. What I found from my time with an alt in that guild was that nobody ever asked about the Cleric. So the issue is less about access, and more about general awareness. If there really is a need that hasn't been fully filled with rezzing on this server, it sounds like that small faction of Clerics would be better off simply joining DaP and advertising from within the existing structure. More access to resources and logistics, with the exact same service rendered.

[PatChapp]

Sort of. Only certain people have access to it, but it's actually quite easy to become one of those people. What I found from my time with an alt in that guild was that nobody ever asked about the Cleric. So the issue is less about access, and more about general awareness. If there really is a need that hasn't been fully filled with rezzing on this server, it sounds like that small faction of Clerics would be better off simply joining DaP and advertising from within the existing structure. More access to resources and logistics, with the exact same service rendered.

Friend of mine has saved my ass with daphobbit so many times. Surprised it's not used more

[cd288]

Pretty much this, while this service is offered by DaP it is not frequent nor consistent when this is offered. I think DAP is overestimating their ability to provide these rezzes in this thread.

Literally all you have to do is ask for the login and you can have access. It’s not “offered” in the sense that DAP isn’t going around to zone being like anyone need a rez? Instead if you need a rez just message DAP and they will bring the cleric for ya

[JDAm0nk]

What is the going rate for a rez on Green? For <Ring a Rez>, DAP cleric bot (good to know!), or in general? I'm always unsure what to offer unlike when asking for ports.

[jadier]

What is the going rate for a rez on Green? For <Ring a Rez>, DAP cleric bot (good to know!), or in general? I'm always unsure what to offer unlike when asking for ports.

Highly dependent on the situation. Died in Velks, dragged body to zone line, and watched an epic cleric zone in on your body? 50pp is a good tip.

Died in Sebilis and have to make someone keyed run way out there? Died in HS and need a commando force drop-in? Well….more

[Trexller]

Yeah these things work for about 20 minutes until clerics realize that farming bronze weapon drops is more plat than what the stingy/broke ass plebs will pay.

the longer it takes and the further they have to run should increase the tip.

If you pay less than 50p for a port ANYWHERE, you suck at life.

If you pay less than 100p for a rez ANYWHERE, you suck at life.

If you are gonna reply pissing and moaning that you can't get that kind of plat, then you suck at everquest.

[AdrenolineLove]

To respond to some of yall:

I have never in the history of my many years on P99 had DaP provide or offer rezzes to me, so its great they have a cleric but its a shame they arent using it. Someone mentioned "why would I let the money to go another guild instead of DaP", you realize DaP tips dont go in some giant DaP piggy bank right? Its for personal gains, so it doesn't matter which "guild" it goes to. Thats just your pride talking.

Yall keep talking about people being stingy but lets be honest, level 10s arent going to Ring a Rez, they will make up the lost exp in minutes. Also people who need a rez just to travel arent going to Ring a Rez either cuz they can just get a free CR port from DaP.

Where this matters is level 40s+ who want an exp rez so they didn't just lose an hour-three hours of grinding and there are no clerics there. If youre in your 40s and value your time and everyone elses, you can afford 100pp for a rez and an extra 15 for the cleric to pay a DaP. DaP and the cleric both win, if yall dont see how this is mutually beneficial for the customer, DaP and clerics, I cant help yah.

Also to be clear: we are not a FOR TIPS guild. We are providing a service, we can set pricing if we want to and thats the one thing that will separate us from DaP. If you want us to travel across 10 zones and get a port to rez you for 10pp, sorry about it, thats your problem not ours. If you want a rez you'll pay for a rez, simple as that. We can all afford it if we're in our 40s/50s.

[Trexller]

and an extra 15 for the cleric to pay a DaP.

15p? Really? 15? thats all a port is worth to you? druid has to port 7 times to make 100p?

people like you are why this type of model doesn't work. you're also why no one wants to work wait staff anymore.

[Nomadic Plainswalker]

Kinda ironic (and sad) that someone with over 2K posts on this board is telling people they 'suck at life'.

[Tunabros]

lol

[cd288]

To respond to some of yall:

I have never in the history of my many years on P99 had DaP provide or offer rezzes to me, so its great they have a cleric but its a shame they arent using it. Someone mentioned "why would I let the money to go another guild instead of DaP", you realize DaP tips dont go in some giant DaP piggy bank right? Its for personal gains, so it doesn't matter which "guild" it goes to. Thats just your pride talking.

Yall keep talking about people being stingy but lets be honest, level 10s arent going to Ring a Rez, they will make up the lost exp in minutes. Also people who need a rez just to travel arent going to Ring a Rez either cuz they can just get a free CR port from DaP.

Where this matters is level 40s+ who want an exp rez so they didn't just lose an hour-three hours of grinding and there are no clerics there. If youre in your 40s and value your time and everyone elses, you can afford 100pp for a rez and an extra 15 for the cleric to pay a DaP. DaP and the cleric both win, if yall dont see how this is mutually beneficial for the customer, DaP and clerics, I cant help yah.

Also to be clear: we are not a FOR TIPS guild. We are providing a service, we can set pricing if we want to and thats the one thing that will separate us from DaP. If you want us to travel across 10 zones and get a port to rez you for 10pp, sorry about it, thats your problem not ours. If you want a rez you'll pay for a rez, simple as that. We can all afford it if we're in our 40s/50s.

Yeah because DAP isn't going to you every time you need a port and saying "do you need a rez too?" Just like they aren't sending you random tells asking you if you need ports. DAP is an on request service...so if you need a rez, you can ask them for one and they will provide it. If you're unaware that DAP has guild clerics I don't know what to tell you...that has been a well known thing for years lol.

And again, it's not really mutually beneficial to DAP because again they have their own clerics who they can use and then both the rez and port tip go to a DAP character not a random third party.

Also, not really sure what your final point is intended to say. So you're a priced service and if anyone can't pay that price you won't rez them? Good strategy...if I don't like your pricing I'll go use DAP's rez service since they don't require a minimum tip. Edit: Not saying I'm trying to stiff people on rez tips, just trying to illustrate the point that not only is your service already competing with DAP's in general, but the service you're competing for also doesn't set a required payment so that's just another thing that may hurt you with your average player.

[Mazoku]

DAP HAS NOT AND NOR EVER WILL BE PORT FOR TIPS. Some porters may operate that way but the entire establishment of DAP is port for PAYMENTS. Dial is not a bus or volunteer service.




To respond to some of yall:

I have never in the history of my many years on P99 had DaP provide or offer rezzes to me, so its great they have a cleric but its a shame they arent using it. Someone mentioned "why would I let the money to go another guild instead of DaP", you realize DaP tips dont go in some giant DaP piggy bank right? Its for personal gains, so it doesn't matter which "guild" it goes to. Thats just your pride talking.

Yall keep talking about people being stingy but lets be honest, level 10s arent going to Ring a Rez, they will make up the lost exp in minutes. Also people who need a rez just to travel arent going to Ring a Rez either cuz they can just get a free CR port from DaP.

Where this matters is level 40s+ who want an exp rez so they didn't just lose an hour-three hours of grinding and there are no clerics there. If youre in your 40s and value your time and everyone elses, you can afford 100pp for a rez and an extra 15 for the cleric to pay a DaP. DaP and the cleric both win, if yall dont see how this is mutually beneficial for the customer, DaP and clerics, I cant help yah.

Also to be clear: we are not a FOR TIPS guild. We are providing a service, we can set pricing if we want to and thats the one thing that will separate us from DaP. If you want us to travel across 10 zones and get a port to rez you for 10pp, sorry about it, thats your problem not ours. If you want a rez you'll pay for a rez, simple as that. We can all afford it if we're in our 40s/50s.

[Trexller]

Kinda ironic (and sad) that someone with over 2K posts on this board is telling people they 'suck at life'.

I retired before 40.

hbu?

[cd288]

I retired before 40.

hbu?

Yeah but you probably also live in like Arkansas so you lose by default

[Fawqueue]

To respond to some of yall:

I have never in the history of my many years on P99 had DaP provide or offer rezzes to me, so its great they have a cleric but its a shame they arent using it. Someone mentioned "why would I let the money to go another guild instead of DaP", you realize DaP tips dont go in some giant DaP piggy bank right? Its for personal gains, so it doesn't matter which "guild" it goes to. Thats just your pride talking.

Yall keep talking about people being stingy but lets be honest, level 10s arent going to Ring a Rez, they will make up the lost exp in minutes. Also people who need a rez just to travel arent going to Ring a Rez either cuz they can just get a free CR port from DaP.

Where this matters is level 40s+ who want an exp rez so they didn't just lose an hour-three hours of grinding and there are no clerics there. If youre in your 40s and value your time and everyone elses, you can afford 100pp for a rez and an extra 15 for the cleric to pay a DaP. DaP and the cleric both win, if yall dont see how this is mutually beneficial for the customer, DaP and clerics, I cant help yah.

Also to be clear: we are not a FOR TIPS guild. We are providing a service, we can set pricing if we want to and thats the one thing that will separate us from DaP. If you want us to travel across 10 zones and get a port to rez you for 10pp, sorry about it, thats your problem not ours. If you want a rez you'll pay for a rez, simple as that. We can all afford it if we're in our 40s/50s.

This is, sort of correct but l think you're lacking context and details. DAP doesn't require any kind of dues, thus the money you pay for ports does go straight into the hands of the porters, which you had correct. However, many members donate either plat, items, or both to the guild bank that is later distributed to members either directly or through a large raffle. The last one on Valentine's day was over 30k. So in that sense, a portion of DAP 'tips' are going into a 'giant piggy bank' that benefits the members. So in that sense, it could matter which guild it goes to.

Now all that being said, you seem intent on doing this regardless of what everyone's said in response, so by all means give it a shot. I definitely think you shouldn't be so quick to dismiss the low-level customer base though. High level players in established guilds really don't need the service you're offering - they have cleric friends more than willing to do this for them. It's your newbies and un-guilded that lack the connections to get rezzes that would be your bread-and-butter.

[Nomadic Plainswalker]

I retired before 40.

hbu?

I'd have to talk to your mom and dad to confirm that. Yell upstairs and see if they are available.

[Trexller]

I'd have to talk to your mom and dad to confirm that. Yell upstairs and see if they are available.

both of my parents died in my 20s

friendly reminder to set your clocks ahead today, you don't wanna be late for your shift at pizza hut.

[Tirano]

Recruiting Clerics, Paladins and Necromancers of all levels and origins to join us in becoming part of something this community is missing - rezzes for tips.

Gone are the days of desperately sliding in DMs of random clerics who didn't bother to /role. <Ring a Rez> will happily come out and rez you for tips, the same way Dial a Port will!



Also to be clear: we are not a FOR TIPS guild. We are providing a service, we can set pricing if we want to and thats the one thing that will separate us from DaP. If you want us to travel across 10 zones and get a port to rez you for 10pp, sorry about it, thats your problem not ours. If you want a rez you'll pay for a rez, simple as that. We can all afford it if we're in our 40s/50s.

I'm confused.

[cd288]

I'm confused.

Also the first post should read “will happily come rez you if you agree to pay what we want you to. Lowbie with not much plat who wants a rez? Unless you happen to have died in the same zone as our cleric then you’re SOL because you’re not worth our time…go farm some plat with the big boys if you want to use our exclusive service”

Like don’t get me wrong, when I’ve been in DAP there are times I get annoyed with a tip I’ve received if I had to travel across zones to do the port etc., but if you’re gonna be part of that type of guild then that comes with the territory. You’re there to provide a service to everyone on the server and they will pay what they’re willing to.

[Mazoku]

Also the first post should read “will happily come rez you if you agree to pay what we want you to. Lowbie with not much plat who wants a rez? Unless you happen to have died in the same zone as our cleric then you’re SOL because you’re not worth our time…go farm some plat with the big boys if you want to use our exclusive service”

Like don’t get me wrong, when I’ve been in DAP there are times I get annoyed with a tip I’ve received if I had to travel across zones to do the port etc., but if you’re gonna be part of that type of guild then that comes with the territory. You’re there to provide a service to everyone on the server and they will pay what they’re willing to.

This does NOT work with Uber, a transportation service. Also, Dial can and does set prices for their time and services. Some do and some don't but the whole guild is a business and service. Try paying only in tips to a taxi driver or an Uber, here's $2 for the 45 minute drive, have a great day.

[Trexller]

<Dial a Port> has shared cleric bots that do this...

the clerics that go out to rez people still need ports, so you can't do this without druids/wizards.

why don't you guys just make a guild that serves all utility roles, period?

some sort of <One Stop Shop> for ports, rezzes, buffs, item transfers, corpse retrievals, power levelling etc

you guys would also be able to fill ranks on open/allied raids, so this "utility guild" would have raiding opportunities as well

OP just doesn't know what he's doing. This could *NOT* be a "for tips" guild in order to be successful. It would require a structured pricing model.

its still a good idea, if someone with a brain can implement it properly, you set pricing guidelines based on the effort required to travel and reach the corpse to be rezzed.

need a rez in WC? basically free, 20p? who cares its WC. need a rez in WW? thats gonna run you 250+ at a minimum. Need a summon and a rez? that's 600p

if a dru/wiz is required to transport the rezzer/summoner, then they split the fee 50/50

don't even send a tell if you intend to pay anything less.

like i said in post #2 of this thread, opportunities for members would extend well beyond simple ports/rezzes.

this guild would have clerics, necros, paladins, druids, wizards and OP p99 rogues at a minimum, you all have alts like enchanter and shaman as well. most guilds exist for the purpose of leveling and ultimately raiding, this guild would not. allied/open raids could just be a nice bonus.


some sort of <One Stop Shop> for ports, rezzes, buffs, item transfers, corpse retrievals, power levelling etc

you guys would also be able to fill ranks on open/allied raids, so this "utility guild" would have raiding opportunities as well

[cd288]

This does NOT work with Uber, a transportation service. Also, Dial can and does set prices for their time and services. Some do and some don't but the whole guild is a business and service. Try paying only in tips to a taxi driver or an Uber, here's $2 for the 45 minute drive, have a great day.

Dial is not permitted to require tips except in certain select circumstances. You could ask someone what they’re willing to pay if you have to like run many zones to go get them, but otherwise you’re not really allowed to set a required tip. That’s kind of the whole point of the guild rules

[Mazoku]

Dial is not permitted to require tips except in certain select circumstances. You could ask someone what they’re willing to pay if you have to like run many zones to go get them, but otherwise you’re not really allowed to set a required tip. That’s kind of the whole point of the guild rules

Wrong, I will submit for your review the official rule #4 of Dial.

"Greed will not be tolerated of any kind! You may set your own prices for ports or other services, but do not argue with a client over the fare received if the price was not agreed upon initially. You will get stiffed from time to time but just bite your tongue and move on."

Aaaaaaand rule #7

"Avoid the words "donations" or "tips" when advertising your services as we are a pay-for-port service and those words can have mixed meanings. We do however encourage members to advertise free CRs and help lowbies and new members as much as possible."


These are not new rules either. They are part of the original rules that haven't changed.

[cd288]

Wrong, I will submit for your review the official rule #4 of Dial.

"Greed will not be tolerated of any kind! You may set your own prices for ports or other services, but do not argue with a client over the fare received if the price was not agreed upon initially. You will get stiffed from time to time but just bite your tongue and move on."

Aaaaaaand rule #7

"Avoid the words "donations" or "tips" when advertising your services as we are a pay-for-port service and those words can have mixed meanings. We do however encourage members to advertise free CRs and help lowbies and new members as much as possible."

These are not new rules either. They are part of the original rules that haven't changed.

Thank you for proving my point. You are not allowed to set a minimum price when soliciting services in your port message. If someone messages you and asks you to travel across zones to get them you can have a discussion about price

[Mazoku]

Thank you for proving my point. You are not allowed to set a minimum price when soliciting services in your port message. If someone messages you and asks you to travel across zones to get them you can have a discussion about price

No the rule you just misunderstood says you can set prices. How can I get any plainer? Also I set prices and we've had years of people setting prices on blue. One guy on blue set his minimum price at 100. He had a bunch of people who wouldn't ride with him but others did. And that guy made more plat than I ever saw on blue server.

[Loruk]

Recruiting Clerics, Paladins and Necromancers of all levels and origins to join us in becoming part of something this community is missing - rezzes for tips.

Gone are the days of desperately sliding in DMs of random clerics who didn't bother to /role. <Ring a Rez> will happily come out and rez you for tips, the same way Dial a Port will!

We are just getting established so if this takes off hopefully we can work something mutually beneficial out with the members of <Dial a Port> so we can travel and provide rezzes for people all across Norrath.

Contact a member to join today!

Glitterr / Glitterheal
Joebin#3804 on discord


here is an idea. Get clerics going, if this was the beginning, then I would create clerics with their name part of the zone. For example, Thurgadin, cleric would be called Thurgrezzer, level him 49+ and park him there to handle zones - great divide, eastern wastes, Kael and wakening lands ... so on. If clerics already exist which is most likely the scenario, then create a spreadsheet of which zones the clerics would cover.

Each continent have a cleric parked with a name that makes sense to where he is parked.

If you could pull this off, then having a druid to port you around isn't as important. This would take a lot of work to level up many clerics but with a group effort it is possible.

My cleric would join in this madness if it ever took off. He is level 30 currently

[ReoDobbs]

here is an idea. Get clerics going, if this was the beginning, then I would create clerics with their name part of the zone. For example, Thurgadin, cleric would be called Thurgrezzer, level him 49+ and park him there to handle zones - great divide, eastern wastes, Kael and wakening lands ... so on. If clerics already exist which is most likely the scenario, then create a spreadsheet of which zones the clerics would cover.

Each continent have a cleric parked with a name that makes sense to where he is parked.

If you could pull this off, then having a druid to port you around isn't as important. This would take a lot of work to level up many clerics but with a group effort it is possible.

My cleric would join in this madness if it ever took off. He is level 30 currently

Man if I could no life. This would be an amazing way to amass a fortune as a sjngle entity but I'm not sure the human mind could handle leveling 20 clerics to level 49

[cd288]

No the rule you just misunderstood says you can set prices. How can I get any plainer? Also I set prices and we've had years of people setting prices on blue. One guy on blue set his minimum price at 100. He had a bunch of people who wouldn't ride with him but others did. And that guy made more plat than I ever saw on blue server.

You can set prices in one on one convos. Your reading comprehension seems to be off because I specifically said you cannot set prices in your port message.

[cd288]

here is an idea. Get clerics going, if this was the beginning, then I would create clerics with their name part of the zone. For example, Thurgadin, cleric would be called Thurgrezzer, level him 49+ and park him there to handle zones - great divide, eastern wastes, Kael and wakening lands ... so on. If clerics already exist which is most likely the scenario, then create a spreadsheet of which zones the clerics would cover.

Each continent have a cleric parked with a name that makes sense to where he is parked.

If you could pull this off, then having a druid to port you around isn't as important. This would take a lot of work to level up many clerics but with a group effort it is possible.

My cleric would join in this madness if it ever took off. He is level 30 currently

And then you never play you’re cleric again because it has to be parked in an area for rezzes? Idk who would agree to that

[Nachtsuchen]

To those that ask why such a guild idea isn't rolled specifically into <Dial a Port>: When you reach out to a Cleric who explicitly is looking to work, you can then easily still reach out to DaP to have them deliver your Cleric a la Door Dash. It encourages inter-guild economics of sorts, which is neat.

Though in all fairness, I still feel checking for Clerics on /who all accomplishes the same goal much easier. Still, novel idea and I wish y'all luck!