View Full Version : Riot ban for cheating, where?
Samoht
02-16-2022, 03:36 PM
We've all seen the thread. (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=399003)
The only character actually proven to be scripting in that thread is a Riot officer named Kickenit.
Where is their raid ban for cheating?
druidbob
02-16-2022, 03:39 PM
Don't fear, GMs have just made Statue and KT a roll off, so you don't have to worry about Kickenit scripting anymore.
Toryas
02-16-2022, 03:40 PM
We've all seen the thread. (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=399003)
The only character actually proven to be scripting in that thread is a Riot officer named Kickenit.
Where is their raid ban for cheating?
Wonder how long it’d take for Vanquish tears to start flowing. Almost as quick as Stunningly off the line.
Didn't someone 2box and train a rival guild like a year back and never even took a suspension for it? Then a GM posted that it was a "very hard time of year" when people asked them to hold them accountable?
Pretty sure P99 has become the Wild Wild West.
Scalem
02-16-2022, 03:47 PM
How long until we see Stunningly on Green in Kael?
Samoht
02-16-2022, 03:47 PM
Didn't someone 2box and train a rival guild like a year back and never even took a suspension for it?
You are mistaken. The player took a long vacation for this behavior.
I'm sure certain propaganda machines would love to keep spreading the rumor that the player was never punished because it plays to their narrative as the perpetual victim.
They need to stop playing the victim and start playing the game.
hotkarlmarxbros
02-16-2022, 03:48 PM
It'd be nice to see something done about perfect bard circles while the GMs are at it. They been running in perfect circles in DN for the last 5+ years.
https://www.reddit.com/r/project1999/comments/4liirh/bard_ae_kiting_with_aoe_snare_question/
Cochonou
02-16-2022, 03:53 PM
You are mistaken. The player took a long vacation for this behavior.
I'm sure certain propaganda machines would love to keep spreading the rumor that the player was never punished because it plays to their narrative as the perpetual victim.
They need to stop playing the victim and start playing the game.
You are spinning reality as always Alarti. The characters took a long suspension, but the player was still allowed to play guild bots or other people characters.
Vanquish is full of cheaters, but the pixel lust is that big that its players are as blind as a human at night
Croco
02-16-2022, 03:57 PM
You are spinning reality as always Alarti. The characters took a long suspension, but the player was still allowed to play guild bots or other people characters.
Vanquish is full of cheaters, but the pixel lust is that big that its players are as blind as a human at night
His RA was actually higher during his "suspension" than it was previous. Zero penalty. Just like the cheaters that precipitated this change will likely get zero penalty. Just like the guild that was exploiting tunare's call for more than 6 months got zero penalty.
Toryas
02-16-2022, 04:00 PM
You are mistaken. The player took a long vacation for this behavior.
I'm sure certain propaganda machines would love to keep spreading the rumor that the player was never punished because it plays to their narrative as the perpetual victim.
They need to stop playing the victim and start playing the game.
He played bots. His raid attendance was high. Galach’s signature literally says boxing = perma ban but here we are still seeing his toons in game.
Horza
02-16-2022, 04:41 PM
He played bots. His raid attendance was high. Galach’s signature literally says boxing = perma ban but here we are still seeing his toons in game.
Rules for thee and not for me.
Caball
02-16-2022, 04:45 PM
Cakabutt scripts Lodi FTE’s for years, and no changes to Lodi yet?? Why isn’t he a random roll of people can script Kael races and badain turn ins they can clearly script Lodi FTE’s. Please make Lodi a /random and end riots scripting domination, thanks!
Samoht
02-16-2022, 04:46 PM
Rules for thee and not for me.
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm getting at with this post! Kickenit openly cheats in Kael races and his guild gets to cry until server rules get changed to placate their whining.
Why no punishment?
Samoht
02-16-2022, 04:47 PM
Cakabutt scripts Lodi FTE’s for years, and no changes to Lodi yet?? Why isn’t he a random roll of people can script Kael races and badain turn ins they can clearly script Lodi FTE’s. Please make Lodi a /random and end riots scripting domination, thanks!
Good call out! Throw this example on the rules for thee list, Horza!
Cakabutt <Riot> is scripting, too, eh?
Where's the punishment?
Nutsax
02-16-2022, 04:48 PM
I think you are missing the point, losing 20 races in a row is a statistical impossibility. Occom's razor determines that your cheating players/guild uses third party programs and no amount of work can beat an optimized script. You idiots are too stupid to loose a race once in a while to cover your tracks. It's ridicules that this has been permitted.
You should have taken my advice. Hahahahahaha
Twochain
02-16-2022, 05:03 PM
You should have taken my advice. Hahahahahaha
You lost 20 in a row because Lenard stop showing up. Supermad won the race today, and I don't even know if he practices. He won by a fucking mile.
Ripqozko
02-16-2022, 05:17 PM
Good call out! Throw this example on the rules for thee list, Horza!
Cakabutt <Riot> is scripting, too, eh?
Where's the punishment?
not a raid target
Nutsax
02-16-2022, 05:18 PM
You lost 20 in a row because Lenard stop showing up. Supermad won the race today, and I don't even know if he practices. He won by a fucking mile.
That narrative has been debunked by a guy who made a youtube video showing him scripting with a P99 client running.
Caball
02-16-2022, 05:56 PM
not a raid target
Okay so you are saying it’s okay to cheat to win FTE on targets as long as they aren’t raid mobs? Good to know your position on that but cheating on any mob here is a bannable offense, Lodi is no exception. Change Lodi to /random or allow riot to keep benefitting from cheaters while calling foul on anyone else they suspect of doing that same. Absolutely disgusting behavior
Ripqozko
02-16-2022, 06:34 PM
Okay so you are saying it’s okay to cheat to win FTE on targets as long as they aren’t raid mobs? Good to know your position on that but cheating on any mob here is a bannable offense, Lodi is no exception. Change Lodi to /random or allow riot to keep benefitting from cheaters while calling foul on anyone else they suspect of doing that same. Absolutely disgusting behavior
Sorry it's not a raid target , hope that helps
Gustoo
02-17-2022, 01:25 PM
it would be nice of a GM would say they are looking into these accusations and no further spam threads will be necessary.
Samoht
02-17-2022, 01:50 PM
it would be nice of a GM would say they are looking into these accusations and no further spam threads will be necessary.
Riot right now:
https://i.imgur.com/8Hz5cll.jpg
Gustoo
02-17-2022, 03:09 PM
Nice picture haha
Terrok
02-18-2022, 01:09 AM
We've all seen the thread. (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=399003)
The only character actually proven to be scripting in that thread is a Riot officer named Kickenit.
Where is their raid ban for cheating?
I heard Takp is nice this time of year, if furor and detoxx where not banned from there, im sure vanq would be there. you guys can just create your own server like your test server and just give yourselves all BIS gear and handies. Hope this helps.
Viscere
02-18-2022, 06:19 AM
they're busy crushing your teeth in and opening your anus wide on blue tbf
Secrets
02-18-2022, 10:38 AM
Scripting can't be tracked serversided with the amount of people clicking an item without a target, btw - unless P99 adds support for sending a server message when you click an item to Titanium like it is in later clients. The client is self-driven for messages sent to the server without a target. With a target, though, you'll be sending messages as long as you don't have a cast bar.
Though, I can't help but wonder if the issue isn't the fact that scripting FTE is possible, but the fact that such a system exists and is the primary means to compete - which is dependent on one player racing for a target, and not an entire guild.
It seems devoid of actual talent or skill when compared to TLP where open world content can be either instanced or DPS raced and is a consistent source of frustration for the staff of P99.
You might be thinking, "Well, just go play TLP, Secrets!" - and I think that's an unacceptable answer, as P99 is a more enjoyable and authentic leveling experience. This raid scene is just unacceptable.
I wish this community was open to instancing / open world hybrids like TLP servers do. It's the proper solution for the issue that allows all players to enjoy the game. Maybe Rogean would enjoy working on this server more if he didn't get threatened offline over guild drama constantly.
Chortles Snortles
02-18-2022, 10:53 AM
thanks for attending my elf Ted talk
(lol)
titanshub
02-18-2022, 12:11 PM
Scripting can't be tracked serversided with the amount of people clicking an item without a target, btw - unless P99 adds support for sending a server message when you click an item to Titanium like it is in later clients. The client is self-driven for messages sent to the server without a target. With a target, though, you'll be sending messages as long as you don't have a cast bar.
Though, I can't help but wonder if the issue isn't the fact that scripting FTE is possible, but the fact that such a system exists and is the primary means to compete - which is dependent on one player racing for a target, and not an entire guild.
It seems devoid of actual talent or skill when compared to TLP where open world content can be either instanced or DPS raced and is a consistent source of frustration for the staff of P99.
You might be thinking, "Well, just go play TLP, Secrets!" - and I think that's an unacceptable answer, as P99 is a more enjoyable and authentic leveling experience. This raid scene is just unacceptable.
I wish this community was open to instancing / open world hybrids like TLP servers do. It's the proper solution for the issue that allows all players to enjoy the game. Maybe Rogean would enjoy working on this server more if he didn't get threatened offline over guild drama constantly.
Why wouldn't we just ban people for making offline threats? It's beyond me how furoar and stunningly are still allowed to play and race for mobs. Maybe people are just hesitant to drop the hammer but most of the problems on this server come from a very small number of players.
I think the solution to the problem of racing is that, like you are saying, we need to encourage guilds to coordinate and engage as a team. People complain about rooted dragons because they don't like work. Going into the depths of tov is tough and while it's not classic in mechanic, it's far more classic in feel. I don't understand why this has to be a physical mechanic change. This could be accomplished at the policy level as well. Don't pull statue to wl zl, engage him on spawn. Don't train mobs out of the way and disrupt the zone etc. Etc etc
Viscere
02-18-2022, 12:28 PM
Scripting can't be tracked serversided with the amount of people clicking an item without a target, btw - unless P99 adds support for sending a server message when you click an item to Titanium like it is in later clients. The client is self-driven for messages sent to the server without a target. With a target, though, you'll be sending messages as long as you don't have a cast bar.
Though, I can't help but wonder if the issue isn't the fact that scripting FTE is possible, but the fact that such a system exists and is the primary means to compete - which is dependent on one player racing for a target, and not an entire guild.
It seems devoid of actual talent or skill when compared to TLP where open world content can be either instanced or DPS raced and is a consistent source of frustration for the staff of P99.
You might be thinking, "Well, just go play TLP, Secrets!" - and I think that's an unacceptable answer, as P99 is a more enjoyable and authentic leveling experience. This raid scene is just unacceptable.
I wish this community was open to instancing / open world hybrids like TLP servers do. It's the proper solution for the issue that allows all players to enjoy the game. Maybe Rogean would enjoy working on this server more if he didn't get threatened offline over guild drama constantly.
I'm glad they have consistently ignored you then, instancing would be very damaging to Blue/Green.
It has never been proposed for the last 10 years and that's maybe why the server pops are so high and thriving (except for red, cause pvp in classic EQ is retarded), compared to TLPs who...keep dying one after another...
PlsNoBan
02-18-2022, 12:39 PM
I'm glad they have consistently ignored you then, instancing would be very damaging to Blue/Green.
It has never been proposed for the last 10 years and that's maybe why the server pops are so high and thriving (except for red, cause pvp in classic EQ is retarded), compared to TLPs who...keep dying one after another...
If by "very damaging" you mean preventing 90% of RNF threads from ever happening and allowing grown adults with families and jobs to enjoy P99 endgame without resorting to extreme degenerate behavior and cutting back on drama/workload for staff by probably 80%?
Yes I agree it would be "very damaging"
Viscere
02-18-2022, 01:02 PM
well yeah, the RnF and drama is what's so fun about p99, it's what makes it spicy
it wouldn't be as successful without it
Tunabros
02-18-2022, 02:44 PM
+1
rnf is fun even if it doesnt apply to you
cd288
02-18-2022, 02:49 PM
We've all seen the thread. (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=399003)
The only character actually proven to be scripting in that thread is a Riot officer named Kickenit.
Where is their raid ban for cheating?
Lmao vanquish still trying to walk it back frantically after they outed themselves by posting the proof originally. You are so embarrassing dude
Samoht
02-18-2022, 02:55 PM
Lmao vanquish still trying to walk it back frantically after they outed themselves by posting the proof originally. You are so embarrassing dude
I'm pretty sure that neither one of us knows what you're talking about right now.
cd288
02-18-2022, 06:13 PM
I'm pretty sure that neither one of us knows what you're talking about right now.
Oh really? You don’t remember when your guild originally tried to post the videos as proof that Riot was cheating? Only to find out that Riot was actually running a sting operation to show Vanquish cheating and had disclosed that they’d be scripting to do so.
And then Vanquish freaked when they realized they’d just outed themselves by making the post lmao. Most embarrassing thing I’ve seen a guild do in a long time
Chortles Snortles
02-18-2022, 07:05 PM
oops lol
Samoht
02-18-2022, 07:16 PM
Oh really? You don’t remember when your guild originally tried to post the videos as proof that Riot was cheating? Only to find out that Riot was actually running a sting operation to show Vanquish cheating and had disclosed that they’d be scripting to do so.
And then Vanquish freaked when they realized they’d just outed themselves by making the post lmao. Most embarrassing thing I’ve seen a guild do in a long time
Nah, I'm unaware of any such scenario. Do you have any evidence that supports this delusion? Or are you some drug addled delirium?
Ennewi
02-18-2022, 07:33 PM
Nah, I'm unaware of any such scenario. Do you have any evidence that supports this delusion? Or are you some drug addled delirium?
https://www.project1999.com/forums/member.php?u=121
cd288
02-18-2022, 08:06 PM
Nah, I'm unaware of any such scenario. Do you have any evidence that supports this delusion? Or are you some drug addled delirium?
Go look at the post by vanquish from months ago you loser lol
Samoht
02-18-2022, 09:05 PM
Go look at the post by vanquish from months ago you loser lol
So I'll take this as confirmation that it never happened. Just like the other post, yall love making shit up.
titanshub
02-18-2022, 09:33 PM
So I'll take this as confirmation that it never happened. Just like the other post, yall love making shit up.
Your words have no value. Why do you bother?
Terrok
02-19-2022, 01:24 PM
We've all seen the thread. (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=399003)
The only character actually proven to be scripting in that thread is a Riot officer named Kickenit.
Where is their raid ban for cheating?
Where is the proof he is cheating? You don't believe riot when they say they are not cheating, but you believe them when they say they are cheating? Do you even know the difference between proven and admitted? Maybe read a book instead of posting on RNF. It will help you out next year when you start high school.Hope this helps.
Convict
02-19-2022, 01:53 PM
lol literally like year 7 of velious
Samoht
02-19-2022, 03:58 PM
You don't believe riot when they say they are not cheating
I must have missed where this was claimed. I did see a Riot poster tho with "evidence" in their video that Kickenit scripting somehow presented proof that Stunningly was also scripting.
Where's the punishment for Kickenit scripting?
Ripqozko
02-19-2022, 04:08 PM
lol literally like year 7 of velious
PlsNoBan
02-19-2022, 04:10 PM
I must have missed where this was claimed. I did see a Riot poster tho with "evidence" in their video that Kickenit scripting somehow presented proof that Stunningly was also scripting.
Where's the punishment for Kickenit scripting?
Do you really believe the guy that reported himself scripting as a means to prove someone else is scripting should be punished? Or are you just trollin? Hard to tell
Chortles Snortles
02-19-2022, 05:07 PM
lol literally like year 7 of velious
18120
02-19-2022, 05:11 PM
The punishment should be that all loot gotten from scripted FTEs should be deleted. <Riot> or <Vanquish>.
That is fair.
Caball
02-20-2022, 03:32 AM
The punishment should be that all loot gotten from scripted FTEs should be deleted. <Riot> or <Vanquish>.
That is fair.
Sounds great! Guess we’ll see no loot deleted since the people winning didn’t need to script to beat the slow pokes in the back, and zero people have been banned for cheating on any race. Can’t wait to hear about how you are absolute sure there is cheating going on during races, and anyone who won’t also blindly accuse people of being guilty with no proof must be cheating pieces of shit also 😂
Ennewi
02-20-2022, 03:45 AM
Sounds great! Guess we’ll see no loot deleted since the people winning didn’t need to script to beat the slow pokes in the back, and zero people have been banned for cheating on any race. Can’t wait to hear about how you are absolute sure there is cheating going on during races, and anyone who won’t also blindly accuse people of being guilty with no proof must be cheating pieces of shit also 😂
04-07-2019, 01:23 AM
Caball
Sarnak
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Nothing will change until a GM is present and decides to do something about a party breaking rules and scares people back into working things out themselves, and on this 10 year old server it’s unlikely that will happen.
enjchanter
02-20-2022, 03:57 AM
WTB earth staff pm me
Caball
02-20-2022, 04:04 AM
I’m sorry, are you posting a quote that I made 3 years ago talking about AG and AM training each other in ToV, during a period where GM’s had been completely absent from the raid scene, thinking that has anything to do with what’s going on here? What does that have to do with anything from this post?
MaCtastic
02-20-2022, 05:46 AM
WTB Slime Blood
Samoht
02-20-2022, 10:20 AM
anyone who won’t also blindly accuse people of being guilty with no proof must be cheating pieces of shit also 😂
But they *know* vanquish is cheating because *they* were cheating (and still losing). They're trying to use Occum's razor as evidence, but their deductive reasoning sucks.
Their explanation of cheating is wayyy too complex for Occum's razor. (did you WATCH the video?! ROFL.)
The simplest explanation here isn't that Vanquish is cheating. The simplest explanation here is that all of the best Riot racers left and now Riot sucks (even tho they're cheating).
But where's the punishment for Riot cheating?
Ennewi
02-20-2022, 10:25 AM
I’m sorry
Don't be.
are you posting a quote that I made 3 years ago talking about AG and AM training each other in ToV, during a period where GM’s had been completely absent from the raid scene, thinking that has anything to do with what’s going on here?
Player behavior hasn't changed much at the very top, even going back further than 3 years ago before AG and AM. So answer your question, yes I am.
What does that have to do with anything from this post?
Rules.
Ennewi
02-20-2022, 10:36 AM
The simplest explanation here isn't that Vanquish is cheating.
So the main player in question can make those videos available for public viewing again?
cd288
02-20-2022, 07:29 PM
I must have missed where this was claimed. I did see a Riot poster tho with "evidence" in their video that Kickenit scripting somehow presented proof that Stunningly was also scripting.
Where's the punishment for Kickenit scripting?
Because they told the staff in advance that they were going to script in order to show vanquish was cheating. You total moron
Samoht
02-20-2022, 08:47 PM
Because they told the staff in advance that they were going to script in order to show vanquish was cheating. You total moron
I don't see how that excuses anything. Still cheated.
Reiwa
02-20-2022, 08:55 PM
Riot looks guilty from here.
Guilty of being innocent!!
cd288
02-20-2022, 09:27 PM
I don't see how that excuses anything. Still cheated.
Lol you’re so pathetic
PlsNoBan
02-20-2022, 09:29 PM
I don't see how that excuses anything. Still cheated.
You can't be this dense
Convict
02-21-2022, 01:34 PM
You can't be this dense
hes ex-aftermath, thats not a real question I hope
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