Wut in the H

[rusty81]

Is up with this UI in Green? Can i change this horrible UI? and why is there no pet window?

[Jibartik]

https://i.imgur.com/9xzuvGC.png

[Tethler]

Is up with this UI in Green? Can i change this horrible UI? and why is there no pet window?

Pet window is out of era. It's enabled on blue as a concession following an elf riot in 2019.

UI mods are allowed on blue. Unless I'm mistaken, UI mods on green aren't allowed (did this change with Velious launch?). Many people seem to be using them, though.

[rusty81]

I mean not like this UI is classic and its effin my eyes ova here..

Can we go ahead and start the riot over here then?

[Trexller]

yeah the "classic UI" made for the green server is utter trash.

its the titanium UI just cut down to look like the old velious UI, and with pretty much all features disabled.

you can screw with all kinds of things in your own UI files, change borders, colors, patterns, sizes etc

thats all they did for the green UI, then they installed some "big brother" file that monitors shit on your personal property, and sends your entire lifestyle habit data to cambridge analytica

who do you think pays for this? why would they really let it go on?

if a service is free, then YOU are the product.

[Jimjam]

We're the product to the server owner - without us the server would have no pop - which would not be classic.

[Ooloo]

Pretty sure the green UI is supposed to be the original classic UI when you F10-ed out of the letterbox viewport UI. I think many people didn't realize you could do that on day 1, you were never forced to use the default tiny little window view in classic. The actual velious UI that launched with velious was it's own thing iirc.

[rusty81]

Pretty sure the green UI is supposed to be the original classic UI when you F10-ed out of the letterbox viewport UI. I think many people didn't realize you could do that on day 1, you were never forced to use the default tiny little window view in classic. The actual velious UI that launched with velious was it's own thing iirc.

Truthfully none of this matters, its a horrible UI. Some quality of life things are not going to ruin the "classic experience" this UI has got to go at least let me use the old UI with the stone look. The only thing that Ruined EQ IMO was planes of power.

[Ooloo]

Oh don't get me wrong I know it's painful, I'm just used to it

[rusty81]

Oh don't get me wrong I know it's painful, I'm just used to it

A bit too painful for me especially if you wanna do a pet class... Moving to blue lol

[Jibartik]

yeah the "classic UI" made for the green server is utter trash.

wow I got casting bars working at 4 am, I got the breath bar working at like 3 am I spent like 3 weeks learning how to script so we could have marble bags and I had to turn my body inside out to figure out how to create a marble character creator so you could all have your sneekers blown off when you logged into green for the first time

Im really proud of that work.

[rusty81]

wow I got casting bars working at 4 am, I got the breath bar working at like 3 am I spent like 3 weeks learning how to script so we could have marble bags and I had to turn my body inside out to figure out how to create a marble character creator so you could all have your sneekers blown off when you logged into green for the first time

Im really proud of that work.

I mean thank you for your hard work... But not to be mean why cant we just use the UI's that are on Blue?.......

This UI just doesnt work for me.

[Jibartik]

Its fine for you to hate it, but it's not utter trash! It's my greatest creation! Fuck my kids.

[rusty81]

Its fine for you to hate it, but it's not utter trash! It's my greatest creation! Fuck my kids.

Well.... Can you get back to work on it then lol.

[rusty81]

Is there at least plans for a pet window in Green?

[Jimjam]

Is there at least plans for a pet window in Green?

P1999 is reconstructive archaeology. It’s not Jib’s UI you don’t like - it is what he is reconstructing that you find problematic.

It is currently believed there was no pet window in the classic era, as such green lacks this.

It should be added in at the appropriate point in the timeline if it was.

[rusty81]

P1999 is reconstructive archaeology. It’s not Jib’s UI you don’t like - it is what he is reconstructing that you find problematic.

It is currently believed there was no pet window in the classic era, as such green lacks this.

It should be added in at the appropriate point in the timeline if it was.

I dont know last i played live was Ruins of Kunark i played a necro. I never knew this game to not have a pet window (to be clear after the giant box went away). I mean I could be wrong.

[Balimon]

wow I got casting bars working at 4 am, I got the breath bar working at like 3 am I spent like 3 weeks learning how to script so we could have marble bags and I had to turn my body inside out to figure out how to create a marble character creator so you could all have your sneekers blown off when you logged into green for the first time

Im really proud of that work.

I really enjoyed using it, and helping test it! People appreciate the work, I think now that Velious here people just want to do customs now

[Swish]

I dont know last i played live was Ruins of Kunark i played a necro. I never knew this game to not have a pet window (to be clear after the giant box went away). I mean I could be wrong.

I remember having to type the pet commands out myself or use macros. It was a pain but it is classic.

[Jibartik]

Is there at least plans for a pet window in Green?

I honestly have no idea but I did get rid of item linking :D but you can thank rog for putting it back though :mad:

I really enjoyed using it, and helping test it! People appreciate the work, I think now that Velious here people just want to do customs now

hehe ty yeah I dont take hombridge to it just mad at trexller :p

[rusty81]

WTB pet window PST

[Jibartik]

I'll have you know I made proper velious buttons for it you ingrates! so someone just has to flip a switch if it's classic who's got the timeline, paging dr loramin, dr loramin.

[p99deadstarre]

It's my greatest creation! Fuck my kids.

how old are they?

[Jibartik]

one of them gets older this month.

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[Tethler]

P1999 is reconstructive archaeology. It’s not Jib’s UI you don’t like - it is what he is reconstructing that you find problematic.

It is currently believed there was no pet window in the classic era, as such green lacks this.

It should be added in at the appropriate point in the timeline if it was.

I'm pretty sure it was found to come in with Luclin. The scope of p99 ends like 1 patch before pet window was introduced, which is why is was put back in on blue to appease the angrys (since it was so close), but not added to green.

OP, if pet window is a dealbreaker for you, reroll on blue, they have it there. It will never be added on green.

[Kirdan]

Yet another reason blue should just progress to Luclin. Justify keeping the pet window that way.

[rusty81]

Adding a pet window will not "break the Classic experience"... Having 1 or 2 QOL items in game IMO would be a welcome addition. Why not just have a Vote? and put this to bed?

But honestly the bigger reason is not so much the pet window, even though I think it would be welcomed... TO me its the UI itself it is very hard to see even after changing the background, the item screen and all other boxes just straight up hurt my eyes. And its not the UI that brings the classic experience its the people and the gameplay.

[cd288]

Did you really have nothing better to do than create a boring troll post about the UI just to try and annoy everyone?

FYI for anyone wondering: If the boxes are hard to see for you, you can change the color and opacity as well as the text color too I believe.

[Ooloo]

I didn't know you did work for the green client jib that's awesome. I love the marble\stone bags

[Tunabros]

yeah i can feel the pet window pain

I was originally going to play a necromancer on launch but having to click back and forth

on my pet to the mob was driving me nuts

[Jibartik]

I didn't know you did work for the green client jib that's awesome. I love the marble\stone bags

thanks! I really got the bags working less than 24 hours before launch. If you notice, they should say inventory, but I didnt have time to quality assure them :( my mistake..

UNPLAYABLE THE UI IS TRASH! :o

[Ooloo]

I honestly do like it and would choose to use it even if we could use custom UIs. I've never liked using custom UIs for p99 it just feels like sacrilege

[sinnycool]

Is there a way to play with the super old ui where you can barely see anything? I would love to try it.

I see it as like fixed camera angles in resident evil or something. The less you can see the more is left up to imagination etc.

People want to be hand fed milkies these days

[Toxigen]

consider blue

[Ooloo]

Is there a way to play with the super old ui where you can barely see anything? I would love to try it.

I see it as like fixed camera angles in resident evil or something. The less you can see the more is left up to imagination etc.

People want to be hand fed milkies these days

You could just press f10 to get out of that UI, from day 1 of classic everquest.

That UI was a terrible mistake. I mean quake 1 came out 3 years before everquest launched, gamers were not gonna put up with some insanely gigantic UI that you couldn't turn off in any first person game.

[Jibartik]

Is there a way to play with the super old ui where you can barely see anything? I would love to try it.

I see it as like fixed camera angles in resident evil or something. The less you can see the more is left up to imagination etc.

People want to be hand fed milkies these days

the closest you can get is by creating a bunch of custom backgrounds and manually moving the windows around on your PC and like, creating tiles almost.. its technically possible and some folks have made them for live, but if you change your resolution all the windows move around and its all fubar looking and there is no default seting that just works, so every player would load into green and like see a bunch of random windows and be expected to like put it together themselves.

like ooloo says the UI you basically see now was available before velious so its about as classic as we can get with titaniums UI. the real major difference is that stupid window with all the hotkeys and stuff, that never existed in live and there isnt much they leave open to edit with their UI scripting tools, so I basically just tried to make it look as minimal and fit the classic look as possible. Because of the way it works, I was not able to like do the origional buttons like this:

https://i.imgur.com/VSRrJOS.png

because it doesnt map specific buttons, it just uses a generic background for all the hotbuttons, and then uses hardcoded text font on top of it instead now.. we tried hard to figure out some kind of hack to get it to work but couldnt. I also couldnt get empty inventory tiles to work for the same reason, came close, got empty spell gems working though, for some reason that one worked.. kind of.

[rusty81]

Did you really have nothing better to do than create a boring troll post about the UI just to try and annoy everyone?

FYI for anyone wondering: If the boxes are hard to see for you, you can change the color and opacity as well as the text color too I believe.

You annoy me.

[BlackBellamy]

yeah i can feel the pet window pain

I was originally going to play a necromancer on launch but having to click back and forth

on my pet to the mob was driving me nuts

I don't understand the strong pet window feels. I mean yeah but not playing a class because of it? All the buttons are there, what is that you're missing the pet health? I have /pet health macrod to everything he reports his health all the time, idk. Never have to click on mobs or pet there's buttons for that too.

[starkind]

Ya green ui p good thx jib! Thumbs up! I got pretty used to it. Now I prefer it.

[Jimjam]

I don't understand the strong pet window feels. I mean yeah but not playing a class because of it? All the buttons are there, what is that you're missing the pet health? I have /pet health macrod to everything he reports his health all the time, idk. Never have to click on mobs or pet there's buttons for that too.

Only time i use mouse is to right click mouselook when trying to strafe alongside kited mobs.

[Cen]

I dont know last i played live was Ruins of Kunark i played a necro. I never knew this game to not have a pet window (to be clear after the giant box went away). I mean I could be wrong.

Okay it sounds like you don't understand the idea here.

There absolutely was no pet window as of the end of velious. Also they wanted to try to get the stone UI for classic but they just couldn't get it to work out.

You can complain but can you actually do what they cannot?
That's the issue here. What you want may be something nobody can give you ever again and I think that's the end of it.

They are going for as close to classic as possible because we can never have classic again perfectly. It's impossible. There's so many lost assets to time that can't be recovered.. and the project is run by very few people.

[p99deadstarre]

one of them gets older this month.

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https://i.imgur.com/ouR4laX.jpg

[Jibartik]

https://i.imgur.com/ouR4laX.jpg

dont worry everyone's kids will die in the same ww3