Log in

View Full Version : An argument for DEX as best stat.


starkind
12-23-2021, 04:02 PM
Ranged throw/archery dmg is leet AF.

My gnome mage is hitting like a mac truck with 110 dex.

Honestly you probably should bump dex up to max on wizard and warrior too. Warriors get good bow. And wizards can chuck daggers between casts/med ticks.

radbeard
01-25-2022, 03:32 PM
bow damage is based off strength on p99 unless they changed it recently

Cen
01-25-2022, 04:21 PM
Considering bow damage is indeed based on strength and always is and will be in project 1999, it is not technically a good argument to claim that dex is a good stat. However, there are numerous good arguments for having more dexterity, though I do not have wont to convince you of this.

Midfrost
01-25-2022, 04:40 PM
Warriors should indeed place all of their points into Dex, in order to maximize procs off of their weapons.
Or so Eye would posit.

cd288
01-25-2022, 10:45 PM
Warriors should indeed place all of their points into Dex, in order to maximize procs off of their weapons.
Or so Eye would posit.

The difference in proc chance has proven to be extremely minimal. Not worth it whatsoever

Solist
01-26-2022, 04:50 AM
The difference in proc chance has proven to be extremely minimal. Not worth it whatsoever

This is fake news

Samoht
01-26-2022, 04:57 AM
Dex is so easy to cap with buffs. If we're talking level 60, BIS raiding characters, no need to gear dex at all.

Focus = 60 dex
VoG = 25 dex
Avatar = 100 or PE for 20
Boon = 100

If you're looking for strategies on levelling, sure. Some situations dex would be useful.

Jimjam
01-26-2022, 06:14 AM
The difference in proc chance has proven to be extremely minimal. Not worth it whatsoever

Please link the proof.

BlackBellamy
01-26-2022, 10:40 AM
The two buffs I am constantly asked for is STA and DEX.

DeathsSilkyMist
01-26-2022, 01:03 PM
Yeah I wouldn't focus on DEX for your situation OP. I know nothing about throwing/archery on P99, but I don't remember anyone having evidence to support DEX being the damage stat for those skills. I understand why people would think that, as that's how it worked in Dungeons and Dragons, which EQ borrowed heavily from. They didn't bring everything over though, and I am pretty sure the other posters are correct that STR is what is used. But I would love to see some parsing if you think you are seeing a diference.

Dex is best used on melee characters 50+ that have access to good proc weapons for more PPM. Otherwise I wouldn't worry about it.

And I agree with Samoht, you shouldn't dump into dex for your starting stats, especially on a warrior, as there are plenty of DEX buffs. Unless you are specifically creating a solo only warrior for the challenge of it, most Warriors will be grouping or raiding, so they will usually have access to plenty of DEX buffs. In the very specific case of building a solo only challenge warrior, DEX may be a good starting stat, as warriors 50+ are heavily relying on Truncheon of Doom. Procing Truncheon ASAP is probably going to be more worthwhile than any other stat increase, including STA. But solo only warriors are not that common, and honestly you may regret that DEX dump later if you choose to switch your solo leveled 60 warrior over to grouping/raiding lol.

Jibartik
01-26-2022, 01:17 PM
Put all your stats in dex so you dont have to lsiten to the buff classes at the raid lecture you about how they think your class doesn't need it.

ReoDobbs
01-26-2022, 02:04 PM
Ranged throw/archery dmg is leet AF.

My gnome mage is hitting like a mac truck with 110 dex.

Honestly you probably should bump dex up to max on wizard and warrior too. Warriors get good bow. And wizards can chuck daggers between casts/med ticks.

Can you keep troll posts in the rants and flame subforum?

cd288
01-26-2022, 03:45 PM
Please link the proof.

Been proven before. Go find it. Or if you don’t want to believe me waste all your points on dex for no reason and enjoy yourself haha

DeathsSilkyMist
01-26-2022, 04:22 PM
Been proven before. Go find it. Or if you don’t want to believe me waste all your points on dex for no reason and enjoy yourself haha

Even if the benefit is minimal, it is still helpful. For example, when soloing, if you are looking to increase your DPS and/or proc chances, a small bonus is better than nothing. This is especially true when you do not need to increase other stats further, such as max HP, AC, Resistances, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmDvk3udrhI In the video I do not need more HP, AC, or Resistances for this camp. The only way I can increase my efficiency is more DEX, STR, ATK, Haste, HP/Mana Regen, Clickies, or Proc Weapons.

But again I agree about starting stats. DEX really isn't worth putting any points in to for a new character, unless MAYBE you are trying to build a solo only warrior for the challenge. You may still regret it later if you decide to switch your warrior over to grouping/raiding.

cd288
01-26-2022, 04:45 PM
Putting those points in STR will be way more impactful from an overall Dps perspective than putting them in dex

DeathsSilkyMist
01-26-2022, 04:49 PM
Putting those points in STR will be way more impactful from an overall Dps perspective than putting them in dex

Not if you have max STR:)

Jimjam
01-26-2022, 05:00 PM
You can only get to 150 in starting stats. If we are talking about soloing unbuffed, then even with good gear +105 str is quite a lot to achieve to hit cap.

DeathsSilkyMist
01-26-2022, 05:04 PM
You can only get to 150 in starting stats. If we are talking about soloing unbuffed, then even with good gear +105 str is quite a lot to achieve to hit cap.

I have 231 STR on my SK currently. I would be capped right now if I was an Ogre. Plus I can get +10 STR from Siphon Strength.

Jimjam
01-26-2022, 05:57 PM
Been proven before. Go find it. Or if you don’t want to believe me waste all your points on dex for no reason and enjoy yourself haha

Already have! Made a gimmick warrior with dex focus from low level, got to the 40s... felt like he procs a lot (never ran the numbers) so was interested by your claim as it contradicted my experience. Perhaps any benefit I perceived was imagined.

Mazoku
01-28-2022, 09:03 PM
Dex used to be OVERPOWERED on blue. I have 234 dex gnome warrior on blue he used to proc 12x in one fight in less than a minute.

Now he procs a lot less. They nerfed dex twice it seems. Now with 234-244 dex on blue and green I still get a lot of procs but not like I used to. I max out dex on my warrior and paladin. 240 dex with ghoulbane (before potions/buffs)=dead Unrest.