View Full Version : Best / most packed exp zone post ZEM patch
Viscere
12-05-2021, 07:49 AM
Which one if the best right now?
Criterias are :
- best exp
- easy to find a group
- frequent inflammatory comments in ooc between groups
Arvan
12-05-2021, 09:51 AM
kc used to be amazing for mad people in ooc. i used to log in just to read that and laugh sometimes
Chortles Snortles
12-05-2021, 09:52 AM
teh barrens
Jimjam
12-05-2021, 10:52 AM
Really struggling to find groups on green in the 40s.
Com only ever has a quarter dozen 55+ soloing or farming reavers :/
starkind
12-05-2021, 07:38 PM
EC still imho.
Bardp1999
12-05-2021, 11:25 PM
P99 is fairly dead on the leveling scene unfortunately, has been for a while.
Swish
12-06-2021, 08:08 AM
Everyone waiting on red2.0
Fammaden
12-06-2021, 10:13 AM
Finding groups on green in the 40's has always sucked, the casters all go and solo and the melee get left to beg or try to form groups.
And yeah the leveling scene is screwed on both servers due to the population split and green being barely more popular than blue these days. After the changes now 50+ there doesn't seem to be a true pickup group zone anymore for the high end either, but Hole is probably still the closest thing to it.
Stroboo
12-06-2021, 10:50 AM
CoM on blue had 24 people prime time friday night.
Tunabros
12-06-2021, 12:09 PM
leveling on p99 is dead due to devs making the brilliant decision to split the population
in half
basically forcing everyone to either raid, be high level, or just solo
Cecily
12-06-2021, 12:55 PM
leveling on p99 is dead due to devs making the brilliant decision to split the population
in half
basically forcing everyone to either raid, be high level, or just solo
You can run electricity through someone's heart to make it work again for awhile.
Naethyn
12-06-2021, 12:57 PM
Find a rl friend who wants to play same amount as you. Play good class combos (shm/nec, war/clr, etc). Start any group you want anywhere.
Fammaden
12-06-2021, 01:59 PM
Find a rl friend
K I'm gonna stop ya right there.....
unsunghero
12-06-2021, 02:18 PM
K I'm gonna stop ya right there.....
^
Lol
I’ve gotten random whispers from people saying they were in CoM looking for more. The problem is they tend to come in when I’m across the world in Antonica (and this was before I got the worker sledgemallet) and also usually right before I was about to log. So I had to turn them down, but it sounds like some people were grouping in CoM
I might go down there to check it out since I hadn’t been to CoM on P99 yet, but I might be getting a bit high at 51. I’ve checked out Droga a few times but it’s pretty dead, usually just 1-2 high levels camping EoE or CoS always. Before I used to get tells for CT, and there seems to groups in Sol A bar occasionally, but those might be low for 40’s now
EQBarde
12-06-2021, 04:13 PM
No need to group at lvl 40. Head to SK, kill gnolls, collect scrolls for the quest in Qeynos on mules and use them to exp. If you're an evil race and can't do the quest, there's another option: go play FFXIV. Being an evil race on EQ has never been a good choice, just my 2cp.
Gustoo
12-06-2021, 04:39 PM
In all my years everquesting and a good amount of time at the gnoll spires I never turned in a gnoll scroll. Guess I'm an idiot.
Bone chips in kaladim and crushbone belts and pads in kaladim you betcha but never did the gnoll fangs and scrolls.
I guess I'm just an east continent guy at heart.
Hibren
12-06-2021, 06:47 PM
Guess I'm an idiot
The first step is admitting it.
Gustoo
12-06-2021, 07:00 PM
What is the second step?
starkind
12-06-2021, 07:24 PM
Second step is not doing it.
Just send tells to 50,000 ppl and post 60,000 times about it.
D1E53L
12-07-2021, 02:10 AM
I mean its everquest. If youre LFM/LFG send out them tells. Also people could use the LFG tag more frequently, have seen people in DL OOCing LFG in KC without a tag up! I frequently use /who all lfg level level and find people willing to treck to whatever is going on :)
azxten
12-07-2021, 02:35 AM
Leveling is dead until Teal server launches. No enhanced mob spawns. No instancing. No lists. No nerfed quest exp. Yes 10x harder channeling.
Letting people double farm items with Teal was a terrible idea. The already cheesy leveling treadmill was even easier to get on. JBoots flowed like water flasks to /list players abusing scripts and mainly just AFKing while others farmed their item.
Maybe the staff introducing non classic mechanics like more newb spawns and instancing to make the already ridiculously unclassically easy leveling even easier was a bad idea now that everyone has 10 max level alts full of legacy gear and has no reason to login.
Small changes can have a huge impact on an MMO over a long timescale. They didn't just make small changes they made gigantic easy mode changes and now the server is a barren wasteland. Might as well just let people login and #level 60 themselves immediately and start farming items and raiding it was so easy. ZEMs aren't even classic and as far as I know that was proven.
I'll never know why the staff seems to encourage the max level bottleneck on P99. There might have been some kind of plausible deniability in the past but Green launch instancing, spawn rates, etc pretty much proven it's a conscious choice to make players level faster than was classic. They seemed to listen to the idea that we shouldn't have hot spot ZEMs like HHK because it's not classic and in response they just moved it to the Hole. That wasn't the problem guys, the problem was the whole damn hot spot ZEM concept that isn't classic, not the zone it's enabled in. Not to mention the way that allowed Loam armor to flood the market and give dungeon soloing Enchanters an even easier time to finish off whatever might be left to enjoy on Green.
Fighting over low level mob spawns to level on an overcrowded server was classic and no the GMs didn't pop up when you petitioned and ban a paying subscriber because they KSed your fire beetle like happens on P99.
As someone who doesn't enjoy 50+ EQ and raiding I really hate what was done on Green to destroy the leveling curve. Glad other people admit it's fucked up and something was lost there. Any one of those ridiculous things would have ruined it but we got a truckload of them.
EQBarde
12-07-2021, 02:39 AM
leveling on p99 is dead due to devs making the brilliant decision to split the population
in half
basically forcing everyone to either raid, be high level, or just solo
EQBarde
12-07-2021, 02:47 AM
Leveling is dead until Teal server launches. No enhanced mob spawns. No instancing. No lists. No nerfed quest exp. Yes 10x harder channeling.
Letting people double farm items with Teal was a terrible idea. The already cheesy leveling treadmill was even easier to get on. JBoots flowed like water flasks to /list players abusing scripts and mainly just AFKing while others farmed their item.
Maybe the staff introducing non classic mechanics like more newb spawns and instancing to make the already ridiculously unclassically easy leveling even easier was a bad idea now that everyone has 10 max level alts full of legacy gear and has no reason to login.
Small changes can have a huge impact on an MMO over a long timescale. They didn't just make small changes they made gigantic easy mode changes and now the server is a barren wasteland. Might as well just let people login and #level 60 themselves immediately and start farming items and raiding it was so easy. ZEMs aren't even classic and as far as I know that was proven.
I'll never know why the staff seems to encourage the max level bottleneck on P99. There might have been some kind of plausible deniability in the past but Green launch instancing, spawn rates, etc pretty much proven it's a conscious choice to make players level faster than was classic. They seemed to listen to the idea that we shouldn't have hot spot ZEMs like HHK because it's not classic and in response they just moved it to the Hole. That wasn't the problem guys, the problem was the whole damn hot spot ZEM concept that isn't classic, not the zone it's enabled in. Not to mention the way that allowed Loam armor to flood the market and give dungeon soloing Enchanters an even easier time to finish off whatever might be left to enjoy on Green.
Fighting over low level mob spawns to level on an overcrowded server was classic and no the GMs didn't pop up when you petitioned and ban a paying subscriber because they KSed your fire beetle like happens on P99.
As someone who doesn't enjoy 50+ EQ and raiding I really hate what was done on Green to destroy the leveling curve. Glad other people admit it's fucked up and something was lost there. Any one of those ridiculous things would have ruined it but we got a truckload of them.
vanix
12-07-2021, 06:13 AM
Leveling is dead until Teal server launches. No enhanced mob spawns. No instancing. No lists. No nerfed quest exp. Yes 10x harder channeling.
Letting people double farm items with Teal was a terrible idea. The already cheesy leveling treadmill was even easier to get on. JBoots flowed like water flasks to /list players abusing scripts and mainly just AFKing while others farmed their item.
Maybe the staff introducing non classic mechanics like more newb spawns and instancing to make the already ridiculously unclassically easy leveling even easier was a bad idea now that everyone has 10 max level alts full of legacy gear and has no reason to login.
Small changes can have a huge impact on an MMO over a long timescale. They didn't just make small changes they made gigantic easy mode changes and now the server is a barren wasteland. Might as well just let people login and #level 60 themselves immediately and start farming items and raiding it was so easy. ZEMs aren't even classic and as far as I know that was proven.
I'll never know why the staff seems to encourage the max level bottleneck on P99. There might have been some kind of plausible deniability in the past but Green launch instancing, spawn rates, etc pretty much proven it's a conscious choice to make players level faster than was classic. They seemed to listen to the idea that we shouldn't have hot spot ZEMs like HHK because it's not classic and in response they just moved it to the Hole. That wasn't the problem guys, the problem was the whole damn hot spot ZEM concept that isn't classic, not the zone it's enabled in. Not to mention the way that allowed Loam armor to flood the market and give dungeon soloing Enchanters an even easier time to finish off whatever might be left to enjoy on Green.
Fighting over low level mob spawns to level on an overcrowded server was classic and no the GMs didn't pop up when you petitioned and ban a paying subscriber because they KSed your fire beetle like happens on P99.
As someone who doesn't enjoy 50+ EQ and raiding I really hate what was done on Green to destroy the leveling curve. Glad other people admit it's fucked up and something was lost there. Any one of those ridiculous things would have ruined it but we got a truckload of them.
I agree with this ^^^... delete blue and green and make purple please and don't remove my bind wound macro, and like, what the fuck are you guys doing ?? nerfing my bind wound macro? ... that shit WAS classic, and yet.. you guys nerfed it... WTF
starkind
12-07-2021, 07:34 AM
Just play 1 mage at each server and keep a low level camp locked down.
Swish
12-07-2021, 08:10 PM
Roll everything into red and make it permadeath... then launch a new server from the ashes.
Swish
12-07-2021, 08:11 PM
Leveling is dead until Teal server launches. No enhanced mob spawns. No instancing. No lists. No nerfed quest exp. Yes 10x harder channeling.
Letting people double farm items with Teal was a terrible idea. The already cheesy leveling treadmill was even easier to get on. JBoots flowed like water flasks to /list players abusing scripts and mainly just AFKing while others farmed their item.
Maybe the staff introducing non classic mechanics like more newb spawns and instancing to make the already ridiculously unclassically easy leveling even easier was a bad idea now that everyone has 10 max level alts full of legacy gear and has no reason to login.
Small changes can have a huge impact on an MMO over a long timescale. They didn't just make small changes they made gigantic easy mode changes and now the server is a barren wasteland. Might as well just let people login and #level 60 themselves immediately and start farming items and raiding it was so easy. ZEMs aren't even classic and as far as I know that was proven.
I'll never know why the staff seems to encourage the max level bottleneck on P99. There might have been some kind of plausible deniability in the past but Green launch instancing, spawn rates, etc pretty much proven it's a conscious choice to make players level faster than was classic. They seemed to listen to the idea that we shouldn't have hot spot ZEMs like HHK because it's not classic and in response they just moved it to the Hole. That wasn't the problem guys, the problem was the whole damn hot spot ZEM concept that isn't classic, not the zone it's enabled in. Not to mention the way that allowed Loam armor to flood the market and give dungeon soloing Enchanters an even easier time to finish off whatever might be left to enjoy on Green.
Fighting over low level mob spawns to level on an overcrowded server was classic and no the GMs didn't pop up when you petitioned and ban a paying subscriber because they KSed your fire beetle like happens on P99.
As someone who doesn't enjoy 50+ EQ and raiding I really hate what was done on Green to destroy the leveling curve. Glad other people admit it's fucked up and something was lost there. Any one of those ridiculous things would have ruined it but we got a truckload of them.
Have you considered starting your own classic EQ server?
azxten
12-07-2021, 10:53 PM
Have you considered starting your own classic EQ server?
Yeah see my open source post on the Green forums. Now that I have a family and children old enough to play EQ I don't need other players anymore just the source.
I just complain because that's what this forum is for. I'd never run a server not even a private one right now. A wise person told me to start less and finish more so I'm working on that.
Worry
12-08-2021, 08:49 AM
I was all for it before Green launched, but yeah the split of pop kind of killed the feel for classic EQ. Just not enough groupage now, especially between 20-45.
I don't think I've ever seen a pick up group in places like Runnyeye. Even if both servers combined I'm not sure it'll ever get back to what it was. Lots have quit.
starkind
12-08-2021, 08:57 AM
honestly i dont blame the staff, the server split a lot has happened irl that is taking ppl away from the game that were otherwise less dedicated/able to neckbeard hard, and i'm greatful for the neckbeards even tho i totally make fun of them
as long as people can stop killing pixels for like 30 seconds to chat and be a pal they are good peeps if u cant even spend 30 seconds becuase you will not get x number of spawns in x number of seconds u have problems and i want to help u anyway still
Tunabros
12-08-2021, 12:41 PM
everytime someone says something cringe like
-merge green with red
-make "purple" or "yellow"
-delete green
-new red
a dolphin dies
let that sink in
Jimjam
12-08-2021, 01:24 PM
You just killed four dolphins.
Triode
12-09-2021, 05:14 AM
Yeah see my open source post on the Green forums. Now that I have a family and children old enough to play EQ I don't need other players anymore just the source.
I just complain because that's what this forum is for. I'd never run a server not even a private one right now. A wise person told me to start less and finish more so I'm working on that.
If you want to fizzle/get interrupted more and play with family, wayfarers haven (formerly p2002) is a nice option. Melody, autofire and mouse zoom all work, and unlike on takp where I gather spells can be hard to come by, there is a copy of burnout IV for sale right now for 200p (see magelo.wayfarershaven.com). The server devs and GM's are super cool, process legit family IP exemptions efficiently and seem to welcome community support as they work towards rolling out GoD.
I still play on p99 here and there, but for my family group, with two young kids, WFH is awesome and gives you the choice to three box to fill out the group if you feel like it and ultimately to advance through LDoN runs. Toxics are promptly banned, and you can actually decide to do something meaningful, like the Lodi eyepatch quest in any given evening with fair odds that he will be sitting up/pathing around tofs when you drop into Iceclad.
At the end of the day, I still agree with those who feel that the best eq experience is when everyone is single boxing, but life is just too busy these days to watch my very finite free time evaporate while trying to put together a group, solicit a port etc.
Prismaticshop
12-09-2021, 06:35 AM
I thought Sebilis would get a nice boost with the modifier, but seems Hole somehow still is #1 ?
Swish
12-09-2021, 08:05 AM
If you want to fizzle/get interrupted more and play with family, wayfarers haven (formerly p2002) is a nice option. Melody, autofire and mouse zoom all work, and unlike on takp where I gather spells can be hard to come by, there is a copy of burnout IV for sale right now for 200p (see magelo.wayfarershaven.com). The server devs and GM's are super cool, process legit family IP exemptions efficiently and seem to welcome community support as they work towards rolling out GoD.
I still play on p99 here and there, but for my family group, with two young kids, WFH is awesome and gives you the choice to three box to fill out the group if you feel like it and ultimately to advance through LDoN runs. Toxics are promptly banned, and you can actually decide to do something meaningful, like the Lodi eyepatch quest in any given evening with fair odds that he will be sitting up/pathing around tofs when you drop into Iceclad.
At the end of the day, I still agree with those who feel that the best eq experience is when everyone is single boxing, but life is just too busy these days to watch my very finite free time evaporate while trying to put together a group, solicit a port etc.
You can't speak his name but I wouldn't go there for that reason alone.
Jimjam
12-09-2021, 08:29 AM
Vegetable market?
What are good places to xp now with the changes? Population aside.
Toxigen
12-09-2021, 10:20 AM
Seb and Velk are back on the radar. I've seen a lot more people in Karnor's too.
Anyone still XPing in hole is a sadist. Boycott Hole 2022 campaign officially underway.
Triode
12-09-2021, 05:39 PM
You can't speak his name but I wouldn't go there for that reason alone.
I don't believe he's played there for quite a few years fwiw. GG was around occasionally when I first tried the server in 2019, and I recall a 1k pp giveaway contest to the first person to find and hand him an avocado lol. The server is run by Trust and his team, and they do it right if you like that era of the game. I just wish there were more players on late night PST, but then the same comment applies here these days.
No RnF at WFH, so you've got to keep a toe in the water over here for the lulz.
Twochain
12-09-2021, 06:06 PM
Leveling is dead until Teal server launches. No enhanced mob spawns. No instancing. No lists. No nerfed quest exp. Yes 10x harder channeling.
Letting people double farm items with Teal was a terrible idea. The already cheesy leveling treadmill was even easier to get on. JBoots flowed like water flasks to /list players abusing scripts and mainly just AFKing while others farmed their item.
Maybe the staff introducing non classic mechanics like more newb spawns and instancing to make the already ridiculously unclassically easy leveling even easier was a bad idea now that everyone has 10 max level alts full of legacy gear and has no reason to login.
Small changes can have a huge impact on an MMO over a long timescale. They didn't just make small changes they made gigantic easy mode changes and now the server is a barren wasteland. Might as well just let people login and #level 60 themselves immediately and start farming items and raiding it was so easy. ZEMs aren't even classic and as far as I know that was proven.
I'll never know why the staff seems to encourage the max level bottleneck on P99. There might have been some kind of plausible deniability in the past but Green launch instancing, spawn rates, etc pretty much proven it's a conscious choice to make players level faster than was classic. They seemed to listen to the idea that we shouldn't have hot spot ZEMs like HHK because it's not classic and in response they just moved it to the Hole. That wasn't the problem guys, the problem was the whole damn hot spot ZEM concept that isn't classic, not the zone it's enabled in. Not to mention the way that allowed Loam armor to flood the market and give dungeon soloing Enchanters an even easier time to finish off whatever might be left to enjoy on Green.
Fighting over low level mob spawns to level on an overcrowded server was classic and no the GMs didn't pop up when you petitioned and ban a paying subscriber because they KSed your fire beetle like happens on P99.
As someone who doesn't enjoy 50+ EQ and raiding I really hate what was done on Green to destroy the leveling curve. Glad other people admit it's fucked up and something was lost there. Any one of those ridiculous things would have ruined it but we got a truckload of them.
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