Probably time for a Kyle Rittenhouse thread.

[Whale biologist]

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/941/iv/30

better than that NYTIMES link

this is definately a new one to me lol

941.34  Fluoroscopic shoe-fitting machines. Whoever uses, or possesses or controls with intent to so use, any fluoroscopic or X-ray machine for the purpose of shoe-fitting or attempting to fit shoes, or who knowingly permits such machine, whether in use or not, to remain on his or her premises, is subject to a Class B forfeiture. Each day of such use, possession or control shall constitute a separate violation of this section.
History: 1977 c. 173.

Goddam it lady not everything has to be about shoes! :p

[Botten]

Judge Dismisses Count Accusing Kyle Rittenhouse of Violating Curfew (https://lawandcrime.com/live-trials/live-trials-current/kyle-rittenhouse/judge-dismisses-count-accusing-kyle-rittenhouse-of-violating-curfew-because-state-presented-insufficient-evidence/)

Yep, Bias judge is bias.

It’s amazing we have preteens charged with murder in Pennsylvania when it was a cop that killed a child but a 17-year-old kid with a gun that’s not his can go vigilante in WI and kill two and wound another.

[starkind]

Goddam it lady not everything has to be about shoes! :p

ladies don't need no flouroscope we just shove them lil toes in there and cope :p

[Elizondo]

If Kyle is found not guilty Botten gonna need a comfort dog

[starkind]

i don't know why i even need to say this AND it is no justification for what happened however

Common sense dictates that if you see people marching down your street with AK 47's or AR 15's or whatever you don't go out and:

Confront them.
Argue with them.
Threaten them.
Aggress them in any way.
Throw stuff at them.
Yell at them.

first of all and foremost, why would you give your position away to a potential hostile?
second of all why don't you have claymores in your yard behind your holloween decorations
3rd and lastly if your going to fight with someone expect to die, and kill them first

I don't think violence was appropriate from any angle in this situation people are fucking stupid animals though and they are behaving like stupid animals

what neighboord was rosenbaum from and from how many miles away was he protesting in other peoples back yards? I'm only asking because I want to know how ate the fuck up the situation was, a lot like when protesters are driven in on busses from cities far away to instigate violence.

Wasn't Kyle was within walking distance from his home though? that was his neighboorhood, city, regardless of how stupid the cities soveriengty lines were? ---- AND THROUGHOUT the day he was working with law enforcement, firemen etc.

Again it's an ate up situation and americans have lost the idea of what it is to protest they don't know what a protest is anymore. Protesting is lobby fueled and transported apes and fundamentalists on a rampage these days.

[Ooloo]

Yep, Bias judge is bias.

It’s amazing we have preteens charged with murder in Pennsylvania when it was a cop that killed a child but a 17-year-old kid with a gun that’s not his can go vigilante in WI and kill two and wound another.

Bias judge is based af. He's not having any bullshit.

You're not "going vigilante" just by carrying a gun, he was putting out fires and cleaning grafitti. He had the gun for personal protection, and it's a good thing he did isn't it?? Turns out he needed it. He works in kenosha and his father lives there, so he does have a personal stake in it.

He wasn't going on some kind of racist shooting spree, which is how he's been painted by the media outlets you undoubtedly guzzle like maple syrup. He shot people who were attacking him and threatening him. Pure self defense, case closed.

[Elizondo]

Bias judge is based af. He's not having any bullshit.

You're not "going vigilante" just by carrying a gun, he was putting out fires and cleaning grafitti. He had the gun for personal protection, and it's a good thing he did isn't it?? Turns out he needed it. He works in kenosha and his father lives there, so he does have a personal stake in it.

He wasn't going on some kind of racist shooting spree, which is how he's been painted by the media outlets you undoubtedly guzzle like maple syrup. He shot people who were attacking him and threatening him. Pure self defense, case closed.

The dudes he shot were all white and one of them was a pederast

8 Year olds dude

[starkind]

Rosenbaum was a transient from texas who probably didn't even have a legal license and registration yet...? suprising.

That was 5 minutes of google i really don't feel like I need to do more.

What a great loss to society.

I would have felt threatend for my life just seeing him probably.

Find a new martyr.

[unsunghero]

There’s a lot more room to argue because Kyle’s actions to decide to put out fires and help people were good, his choice of setting to do them in was not so good

But when we consider self defense, it is possible to legally defend oneself with a gun and still be in the wrong, here’s an example:

I have a gun, I see another guy and decide to antagonize the living shit out of him verbally. I call him a bitch, a piece of shit, any insult I can think of based on his appearance or otherwise

He eventually gets pissed, picks up a rock, says “now you done it, I’m gonna beat the shit outta you”. As he gets close I open fire killing him


In this situation both people are in the wrong. The other person should have let the insults go, words are just words. And the person with a gun is in the wrong for provoking an innocent person into getting himself killed

Does this mean that the self-defense claim should be thrown out? Not sure what happens legally there, but both parties are in the wrong in that scenario

[Botten]

Bias judge is based af. He's not having any bullshit.

You're not "going vigilante" just by carrying a gun, he was putting out fires and cleaning grafitti. He had the gun for personal protection, and it's a good thing he did isn't it?? Turns out he needed it. He works in kenosha and his father lives there, so he does have a personal stake in it.

He wasn't going on some kind of racist shooting spree, which is how he's been painted by the media outlets you undoubtedly guzzle like maple syrup. He shot people who were attacking him and threatening him. Pure self defense, case closed.

The judge is bias you can trip and fall on how many media sources are reporting the numerous mentions I have already shared in this thread.

LoL you fell for that garbage Kyle stated that his father lived in Kenosha? The defense attorneys knew Kyle could mention anything and his family as a minor could not be investigated by the prosecution.

Michael Rittenhouse; Kyle Rittenhouse's father certainly does not live or work in Kenosha. In fact he traveled there once or twice renting a room for clientele he entertained. In all accounts Michael Rittenhouse works in IL for an accounting firm and is a registered voter of IL. (https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-rittenhouse-b9b16b17b)

Kyle Rittenhouse had no business being down in Kenosha and his social media which was not allowed as evidence showed his INTENT on what he wanted to do to others down there. Kyle very much played vigilante.

Sorry you felt the need to point out the type of people he killed and whether you felt it was relevant whether he was called a racist or not. Baler seek help.

[starkind]

There’s a lot more room to argue because Kyle’s actions to decide to put out fires and help people were good, his choice of setting to do them in was not so good

But when we consider self defense, it is possible to legally defend oneself with a gun and still be in the wrong, here’s an example:

I have a gun, I see another guy and decide to antagonize the living shit out of him verbally. I call him a bitch, a piece of shit, any insult I can think of based on his appearance or otherwise

He eventually gets pissed, picks up a rock, says “now you done it, I’m gonna beat the shit outta you”. As he gets close I open fire killing him


In this situation both people are in the wrong. The other person should have let the insults go, words are just words. And the person with a gun is in the wrong for provoking an innocent person into getting himself killed

Does this mean that the self-defense claim should be thrown out? Not sure what happens legally there, but both parties are in the wrong in that scenario

you get reckless endangermentmanslaughtery stuff happening because you did do something wrong but you weren't premeditatiadly just hiding in the bushes shooting ppl big difference, even if you really wanted to kill that person that person still didn't have to attack you and u were still sorta respecting their rights just being a manipulative asshole

definately not murder per the law ish, because ppl go to a place have things happen without any intention at all and get fucking pissed and mad

---- that guy in wesley chappel who killed the guy in the movie theatre for throwing popcorn was pretty fucked up, similar tho and that guy was a cop

there's usually several things that lead up to stuff like that

kyle definately needs therapy and probably shouldn't be allowed to own a gun or join the armed services unless he moves out to the middle of no were and carries only on his property

he's not a terrorist tho, and he's probably not a psychopath jeffery dalhlmer, definately a jerk and callous and immature and 150% not raised right

[Botten]

If Kyle is found not guilty Botten gonna need a comfort dog

Nah I am sure Kyle will go on to do "classy" things that define his character for the rest his life like put the gun up for auction like so many others that got away with killing others in the name of self defense.

These alt right characters usually mess up again in life. Karma


Gun that killed Trayvon Martin 'makes $250000 for Zimmerman'
https://www.bbc.com › world-us-canada-36354206
May 22, 2016 — The handgun used to kill unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin in 2012 has been sold for $250,000 (£172,000), US media say.

George Zimmerman auction for gun that killed Trayvon Martin ...
https://www.cnn.com › 2016/05/18 › george-zimmerman-...
May 18, 2016 — George Zimmerman's auction for the gun that killed Trayvon Martin ended Tuesday, with the final bidder possibly offering to pay $138,900 for ...

Bids in George Zimmerman gun auction up to $65M - USA ...
https://www.usatoday.com › news › nation › 2016/05/13
May 13, 2016 — Bidding in an online auction for the gun George Zimmerman used to kill Trayvon Martin was up to $65 million Friday morning as Internet ...

[unsunghero]

The judge is bias you can trip and fall on how many media sources are reporting the numerous mentions I have already shared in this thread.

[starkind]

Nah I am sure Kyle will go on to do "classy" things that define his character for the rest his life like put the gun up for auction like so many others that got away with killing others in the name of self defense.

These alt right characters usually mess up again in life. Karma


Gun that killed Trayvon Martin 'makes $250000 for Zimmerman'
https://www.bbc.com › world-us-canada-36354206
May 22, 2016 — The handgun used to kill unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin in 2012 has been sold for $250,000 (£172,000), US media say.

George Zimmerman auction for gun that killed Trayvon Martin ...
https://www.cnn.com › 2016/05/18 › george-zimmerman-...
May 18, 2016 — George Zimmerman's auction for the gun that killed Trayvon Martin ended Tuesday, with the final bidder possibly offering to pay $138,900 for ...

Bids in George Zimmerman gun auction up to $65M - USA ...
https://www.usatoday.com › news › nation › 2016/05/13
May 13, 2016 — Bidding in an online auction for the gun George Zimmerman used to kill Trayvon Martin was up to $65 million Friday morning as Internet ...

that is a major problem with our society

no sane or reasonable person would spend $65 million on a gun like that imo and that we condone it and don't put these people in mental institutions or check out their brain chemistry under disection suprises me (thats Mikahail gods avenging wrath speaking) - totlally nnot christian or good in anyway

[starkind]

ya no offense but cnn has lost all integrity with me

so has Nytimes

as much as they are 'woke' fuck em, they propogandize and spin

[Jibartik]

There’s a lot more room to argue because Kyle’s actions to decide to put out fires and help people were good, his choice of setting to do them in was not so good

But when we consider self defense, it is possible to legally defend oneself with a gun and still be in the wrong, here’s an example:

I have a gun, I see another guy and decide to antagonize the living shit out of him verbally. I call him a bitch, a piece of shit, any insult I can think of based on his appearance or otherwise

He eventually gets pissed, picks up a rock, says “now you done it, I’m gonna beat the shit outta you”. As he gets close I open fire killing him


In this situation both people are in the wrong. The other person should have let the insults go, words are just words. And the person with a gun is in the wrong for provoking an innocent person into getting himself killed

Does this mean that the self-defense claim should be thrown out? Not sure what happens legally there, but both parties are in the wrong in that scenario

yeah the problem here is even if you think Kyle was in the wrong because he brought a gun to a riot, you have to consider one of the guys he shot also illegally brought a gun to a riot, and that guy stands to make 10 million dollars if Kyle is convicted.

Makes no sense. Punishment would be irrelevant because there was a grand reward for the same crime.

[Jibartik]

ya no offense but cnn has lost all integrity with me

so has Nytimes

as much as they are 'woke' fuck em, they propogandize and spin

They are corperate overlords. Very smart people are like, "they are experts and trying to bring free dialogue to the people"

CNN: "Social media should be illegal"

lol

[unsunghero]

yeah the problem here is even if you think Kyle was in the wrong because he brought a gun to a riot, you have to consider one of the guys he shot also illegally brought a gun to a riot, and that guy stands to make 10 million dollars if Kyle is convicted.

Makes no sense. Punishment would be irrelevant because there was a grand reward for the same crime.

Which is why you shouldn't go near protests, ESPECIALLY as it gets later on at night and only the disreputable people remain

These are likely already significantly low IQ people, who's low IQ is lowered even more by being part of a mob and sinking into mob mentality. These are people who will feel encouraged to attack you due to a perceived strength in numbers advantage

I'm not saying them being trash morons means they deserve to die. It does mean that if you plan to go near those people with a gun, then you need to realize that you WILL be killing other human beings that night, and be ready for the moral and legal consequences for that

[Jibartik]

Which is why you shouldn't go near protests, ESPECIALLY as it gets later on at night and only the disreputable people remain

These are likely already significantly low IQ people, who's low IQ is lowered even more by being part of a mob and sinking into mob mentality. These are people who will feel encouraged to attack you due to a perceived strength in numbers advantage

I'm not saying them being trash morons means they deserve to die. It does mean that if you plan to go near those people with a gun, then you need to realize that you WILL be killing other human beings that night, and be ready for the moral and legal consequences for that

Protests should stop at sunset, like they did on January 6th.

[Whale biologist]

that is a major problem with our society

no sane or reasonable person would spend $65 million on a gun like that imo and that we condone it and don't put these people in mental institutions or check out their brain chemistry under disection suprises me (thats Mikahail gods avenging wrath speaking) - totlally nnot christian or good in anyway

without clicking I assume the $65m was a fake bid to sabotage the auction. :p

[walfreyydo]

The dudes he shot were all white and one of them was a pederast

8 Year olds dude

All lives matter...


...oh wait that was only a racist slogan meant for people who agree with you politically, got it.

[starkind]

without clicking I assume the $65m was a fake bid to sabotage the auction. :p

ya mabye it's quite insane still

[walfreyydo]

ya no offense but cnn has lost all integrity with me

so has Nytimes

as much as they are 'woke' fuck em, they propogandize and spin

Please enlighten us on your journalistic alternative sources

[starkind]

All lives matter...


...oh wait that was only a racist slogan meant for people who agree with you politically, got it.

can we not agree that all the people involved recklessly endangered their lives?

[starkind]

Please enlighten us on your journalistic alternative sources

axios is better for starters check it out

a lot of times there is no good source anymore and you have to siphon the facts from the dogma no matter which sources you read and make your own decisions

[Elizondo]

All lives matter...


...oh wait that was only a racist slogan meant for people who agree with you politically, got it.

lol dude

your gripe is with CNN and chalk white libs who keep claiming Hero Kyle a white pizza supreme

[walfreyydo]

axios is better for starters check it out

a lot of times there is no good source anymore and you have to siphon the facts from the dogma no matter which sources you read and make your own decisions

Yes I like Axios. My point is that sometimes mistakes are made, mainly by individual journalists or editors, but that doesnt mean it completely undermines long-standing high quality journalistic sources.

My personal belief is all news should be not-for-profit and should be publicly funded with appropriate barriers and oversight to silo it from political influence, similar to BBC and PBS Newshour (although we have seen republicans rail against PBS).

The main problem with US news sources is that they are all for the most part "for-profit", which means they need to cover stories and issues which get the most attention. You have commentary and opinion which masquerades as news but is really meant to cater to people's pre-existing opinions and beliefs which does a better job of pulling people in/repeat viewership. At the end of the day, viewership is tied to ad revenue which is the driver of what gets covered and how. Peoples pre-existing opinions are catered to as opposed to informed.

That goes for Fox/OAN as well as CNN and MSNBC, as well as many traditional news sources.

By and large, your best source for unbiased news is PBS Newshour, NPR and BBC (although conservatives like to say its biased, its not, the facts just don't reinforce their message). There is no incentive for those sources to do anything but report the news to the highest journalistic standard possible.

[Whale biologist]

https://i.imgur.com/ucYtnn2.jpg

[starkind]

Yes I like Axios. My point is that sometimes mistakes are made, mainly by individual journalists or editors, but that doesnt mean it completely undermines long-standing high quality journalistic sources.

My personal belief is all news should be not-for-profit and should be publicly funded with appropriate barriers and oversight to silo it from political influence, similar to BBC and PBS Newshour (although we have seen republicans rail against PBS).

The main problem with US news sources is that they are all for the most part "for-profit", which means they need to cover stories and issues which get the most attention. You have commentary and opinion which masquerades as news but is really meant to cater to people's pre-existing opinions and beliefs which does a better job of pulling people in/repeat viewership. At the end of the day, viewership is tied to ad revenue which is the driver of what gets covered and how. Peoples pre-existing opinions are catered to as opposed to informed.

That goes for Fox/OAN as well as CNN and MSNBC, as well as many traditional news sources.

By and large, your best source for unbiased news is PBS Newshour, NPR and BBC (although conservatives like to say its biased, its not, the facts just don't reinforce their message).

agreed

[Jibartik]

The reckless counts mean he won't walk.

Both sides get to be equally unhappy. ��

https://i.imgur.com/Ixrg2ry.png

[starkind]

they (arsonists) matter in so much as they should be RESPONSIBLY and RESPECTFULLY cared for once they are under state guardianship and no longer a threat to society (i am willing to make the necessary collective sacrifices for this to happen) not sure about personally, without the state and collective force of the nation, bullet to the back of the head probably. I don't think I could keep an arsonist alive without undue suffering. Or cruel and unusual torture from neglect. On my own.

imho

[Whale biologist]

https://i.imgur.com/Ixrg2ry.png

pbJ4yzA854A

[starkind]

pbJ4yzA854A

pie was within the borders of his kingdom imo :cool:

[Jibartik]

pbJ4yzA854A

where we started vs how its going lol

[unsunghero]

they (arsonists) matter in so much as they should be RESPONSIBLY and RESPECTFULLY cared for once they are under state guardianship and no longer a threat to society (i am willing to make the necessary collective sacrifices for this to happen) not sure about personally, without the state and collective force of the nation, bullet to the back of the head probably. I don't think I could keep an arsonist alive without undue suffering. Or cruel and unusual torture from neglect. On my own.

imho

They may be low IQ, but not low enough to be made wards of the state

What they'll need to do is huff some paint, or smoke some weed out of plastic containers (melted plastic fumes can do organic damage to the brain). That'll do it :)

[starkind]

They may be low IQ, but not low enough to be made wards of the state

What they'll need to do is huff some paint, or smoke some weed out of plastic containers (melted plastic fumes can do organic damage to the brain). That'll do it :)

a lot of people dont get that i genuinely feel bad for these people

i struggle a lot keeping it toghether on a daily basis

yet i'm not out there starting fires and being fucking stupid

i wouldn't be "Angry" at the state for taking my freedoms away because I am just smart enough to know how much damage I can do, especially when I was military fit :(

I don't think that should happen to everyone though. Just because of how hard it is for me to be kewl.

[Jibartik]

I want to give starkind the credit for pointing out for me the first time that King Solomon cutting a baby in half, is the first argument made for abortion if the parents are incapable of taking care of the child lol

[starkind]

i love u jibartik, I would rather king solomon give the baby a chance at a good life in the armed services tho :p

good point however.

[Gustoo]

But he probably did not intend to cut the baby in half, otherwise he would have.

[Jibartik]

Im anti abortion because if I wasn't I would be pro eugenics.

[Gustoo]

OK but what about euthanasia?

All arguments happening in the periphery to make "mercy killing" legal are obvious steps to make "mercy suicide" a cultural insistance AKA "Well it would be really selfish of your to keep living so u should definitely do the right suicide thing"

Of course that really only applies to poor people.

[Jibartik]

I cant believe these people are pretending they are not the new evangelicals lol

n68nIjW7rVU

[Ooloo]

"Now, Mr. Rittenhouse, is it true that you have played the mortal kombats?"

[Gustoo]

"Now, Mr. Rittenhouse, is it true that you have played the mortal kombats?"

Wow.

I just watched the clip so changed my comment.

I think my response would be "I don't really want to talk about video games here, I feel that this is a serious matter"

[starkind]

OK but what about euthanasia?

All arguments happening in the periphery to make "mercy killing" legal are obvious steps to make "mercy suicide" a cultural insistance AKA "Well it would be really selfish of your to keep living so u should definitely do the right suicide thing"

Of course that really only applies to poor people.

absolutely, had it been legalized when I..

*TRIGGER WARNING*

went into the VA and attempted suicide they would have offered me a comfy IV and bed and I would have taken it. As it is i'm pretty sure they legally could not force feed me and it was really close. In this quantum version were I some how survived, what the fuck I did to myself. --- that changes when i'm deamed incapable of making medical decisions ONLY in an emergency situation and when my parents decide to force feed, it came really close to that - and I had the forms filled out saying NO medical intervention - so ya it was close IMO and the IV would haave been much easier than the extreme physical pain i put myself in


I cant believe these people are pretending they are not the new evangelicals lol

n68nIjW7rVU

"Now, Mr. Rittenhouse, is it true that you have played the mortal kombats?"

lol!

I always knew my MW2 5/1 overall K/D ratio would come to haunt me.

same lol

at least he didn't play urban terror lol

https://i.imgur.com/ULXyY8j.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/lb29Dkp.png

too young!

[Gustoo]

Nice screenies never heard of urban terror looks like a safe bet for "cool n normal" rating by any jury.

Also its ok that you quoted my original response.

[Jibartik]

U guys ever seen the hatred trailer lol not for the squemish I still cant believe this was made it had to be from eastern Europe I bet:

9PLumh-wttc

[starkind]

U guys ever seen the hatred trailer lol not for the squemish I still cant believe this was made it had to be from eastern Europe I bet:

9PLumh-wttc

reminds me of postal and that snuff porn videogame i forget the name of i never really got into those though some of my friends seemed to get some amusement from them

they weren't really bad people

lost maybe

i think putting a kid infront of that game and conditioning them to violence could reduce their capacity for empathy in the long run or it could make some re-evaluate the reasons for violence or be a cathartic release for some, all conditions may be true

i would be concerned if thats like all someone did all day long and nothing else

i've felt like that

i sung the kill the middle schoool songs in bootcamp

so i'm on the fence here

i don't think call of duty was a factor, or even a big enough factor to warrent crucifying kyle

[Jibartik]

i think putting a kid infront of that game and conditioning them to violence could reduce their capacity for empathy in the long run or it could make some re-evaluate the reasons for violence or be a cathartic release for some, all conditions may be true

I used to not watch scary movies when I was a kid and all the other kids in the neighborhood would ask me to walk them home at night and they would tell me these insane ideas they had like, "what if some guys in a van just pull up next to us and pull us in and kill us!" and im like, wtf!? I was thinking care bares were gonna come get us and take us to a magic castle this is why you gotta stop with those movies!

Now I run from the kitchen to bed at night so maybe these do have some affect on your psyche.

But I sure as hell dont want to become a ghost and kill people.

*votes for ww3

[BlackBellamy]

U guys ever seen the hatred trailer lol not for the squemish I still cant believe this was made it had to be from eastern Europe I bet:



"My genocide crusade begins...here." -- dialogue written by "Herr Warcrimer".

Herr Warcrimer has the sole writing credit for Hatred.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatred_(video_game)

[Trexller]

so wait, did the prosecution try to play the violent video game card?

if so, smh

does the prosecutor actually want this kid to walk? or what?

[Whale biologist]

so wait, did the prosecution try to play the violent video game card?

if so, smh

does the prosecutor actually want this kid to walk? or what?

They have him dead to rights on the lesser charges and going for the eleganté primo.

[unsunghero]

..

[Topgunben]

Can anyone tell me what was in Rosenbaums bag that he threw at Rittenhouse?

It's hard to believe it was completely empty, and furthermore, who throws an empty bag?

[unsunghero]

Can anyone tell me what was in Rosenbaums bag that he threw at Rittenhouse?

It's hard to believe it was completely empty, and furthermore, who throws an empty bag?

Back in the day apparently canned foods were items Antifa would bring to protests in backpacks

It was entirely because it’s a projectile that you can’t get in trouble for having. If you are pulled aside by cops and they search your backpack, if it’s full of rocks the most plausible reason in the cop’s mind is you are going to throw those rocks at them

But if it’s full of canned goods, you could say you went grocery shopping or plan to donate them. And not only does getting hit with a can of soup in the face still hurt, it also creates a big mess for you to deal with

Not sure about Rosembaum’s case tho

[Whale biologist]

Back in the day apparently canned foods were items Antifa would bring to protests in backpacks

It was entirely because it’s a projectile that you can’t get in trouble for having. If you are pulled aside by cops and they search your backpack, if it’s full of rocks the most plausible reason in the cop’s mind is you are going to throw those rocks at them

But if it’s full of canned goods, you could say you went grocery shopping or plan to donate them. And not only does getting hit with a can of soup in the face still hurt, it also creates a big mess for you to deal with

Not sure about Rosembaum’s case tho

Doesn't that just prove that Antifa are in fact not the real fascists?

A Nazi would never give soup away for free. Sometimes not even bread.

[unsunghero]

Doesn't that just prove that Antifa are in fact not the real fascists?

A Nazi would never give soup away for free. Sometimes not even bread.

Well based on their rail-thin physiques I know they certainly ain’t eating it :)

Me, yeah, I’d never throw food because I love food too much. 4000 calories a day, baby!

[starkind]

Soup nazi

[Ooloo]

Most people are fascists, but me? I'm ANTI-fascist. *crosses arms with toughguy look*

Check out my hog woooooo!!

[Jibartik]

Can anyone tell me what was in Rosenbaums bag that he threw at Rittenhouse?

It's hard to believe it was completely empty, and furthermore, who throws an empty bag?

It would be so funny if he got arrested after this trial and tried for the same thing kyle was since he was waving an illegal gun around and assaulting people no less lol

[Jibartik]

Doesn't that just prove that Antifa are in fact not the real fascists?

A Nazi would never give soup away for free. Sometimes not even bread.

my fave meme of 20what3ever it was

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I just love the way trump sounds interrupting himself constantly when hes sayign this lol he was such a funny prez

[Ooloo]

They throw, ya know, the soup. All the soups. Tremendous, tremendous soups. Ya know some say maybe the best soups in the world, maybe all time, they don't know. Because the people, they, you know they only throw the best soups. They come to me, thousands at a time, they say Mr.Trump thank you, for your tremendous.... pantry, full of these.. fine soups. I say to them you're very welcome.

[Jibartik]

This may be graphic for some.

https://youtu.be/n_7QHRNFOKE (it wont embed)

EVERY VIDEO OF KYLE RITTENHOUSE (KENOSHA SHOOTING)

[Ooloo]

I love how the same people who require safe spaces on college campuses lest they hear a word or concept that upsets them are now making fun of an 18 year old kid for crying because he was forced to kill people to stay alive. "Misgendering is VIOLENCE and it may cause PTSD!! Lol rittenhouse crying lolol stupid pussy!!"

Seriously the left is just completely morally bankrupt at this point, all while thinking of themselves as moral exemplars. Jump ship now if you are still a part of that awful political ideology. It's poison for control-hungry sociopaths.

[nostalgiaquest]

Shut up Baler

[Jibartik]

fight fight fight! (in a civil war)





(so china can take taiwan and the south china sea and do a HK thing with australia, and Russia can take Ukraine and half of Europe)






If you dont think this is what happening and it ahs nothing to do with trump other than he is one of the things they're using to piss each other off, you're a dancing monkey.


https://i.imgur.com/bfqh97S.png

[Gustoo]

Ooloo it’s universal and likely that the internal turmoil is to make it easier for us to ignore china and Russia’s flexing but maybe we’ll do a good job as world police still.

Love your neighbor

[hobart]

I love how the same people who require safe spaces on college campuses lest they hear a word or concept that upsets them are now making fun of an 18 year old kid for crying because he was forced to kill people to stay alive. "Misgendering is VIOLENCE and it may cause PTSD!! Lol rittenhouse crying lolol stupid pussy!!"

Seriously the left is just completely morally bankrupt at this point, all while thinking of themselves as moral exemplars. Jump ship now if you are still a part of that awful political ideology. It's poison for control-hungry sociopaths.

Most people think all of the types of people you're referencing are ridiculous. And that goes for you as well.

Like most Trumptards, you confuse Twitter with real life and have trouble drawing the line between the ridiculous illiberal left who mainly live only there vs normal people IRL. This is because you're a zealot and extremist in your political positions, but are too stupid to realize it.

[Jibartik]

lol then hobart goes full monkey.

[Ooloo]

Most people think all of the types of people you're referencing are ridiculous. And that goes for you as well.

Like most Trumptards, you confuse Twitter with real life and have trouble drawing the line between the ridiculous illiberal left who mainly live only there vs normal people IRL. This is because you're a zealot and extremist in your political positions, but are too stupid to realize it.

Ah yes "Not all" again. I've made the point many times that it is the *far* left, which is a fringe percent, but highly influential and ruthless in their ambitions.

So yes, "NOT ALL!!!" of the left, not that I said it was.

[Elizondo]

Most people think all of the types of people you're referencing are ridiculous. And that goes for you as well.

Like most Trumptards, you confuse Twitter with real life and have trouble drawing the line between the ridiculous illiberal left who mainly live only there vs normal people IRL. This is because you're a zealot and extremist in your political positions, but are too stupid to realize it.

This post is super duper funny

Dude says his peeps not all like that and then paints everyone he don't agree as 1 word

anyways, carry on

[Whale biologist]

Ah yes "Not all" again. I've made the point many times that it is the *far* left, which is a fringe percent, but highly influential and ruthless in their ambitions.

So yes, "NOT ALL!!!" of the left, not that I said it was.

I think if you(plural) make a better effort to note the distinction it would be more appealing. Could still blame the 'fellow travelers' for going along with it if you want to be a dick. :p

After all, Antifa is just a word game.

[Elizondo]

After all, Antifa is just a word game.

They all seem to wear really tight jeans

[Homesteaded]

https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1459730038178422787?s=20

[Duik]

This situation is the exact reason the term lolocaust was coined.
I just didn't know how correct it would be.

[Jibartik]

It’s awesome to see someone be like you confuse Twitter with irl and then be like:

1. Social media causes people to be less informed.
2. Russian bots on Twitter collided with trump to steal the election.
3. Facebook weapononized grandma.
4. Weaponized grandma, through the aid of the Twitter bots, and trump, used social media to destroy our democracy.

[Botten]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axdIo1HZjgM

1. Flashes White Power symbol for pictures
2. Drinks while underage but hey it was with his mom (the two are classy)
3. White Supremacy group; Proud Boys sings Kyle their Anthem

And lets not forget Kyles own confession on video before enacts the killing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se9ByJMPjcc

Kyles own karma regardless of how this ends will be his undoing.

[Jibartik]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axdIo1HZjgM

1. Flashes White Power symbol for pictures
2. Drinks while underage but hey it was with his mom (the two are classy)
3. White Supremacy group; Proud Boys sings Kyle their Anthem

And lets not forget Kyles own confession on video before enacts the killing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se9ByJMPjcc

Kyles own karma regardless of how this ends will be his undoing.

4. video games cause violence
5. dungeons and dragons is devil worship
6. sex in media is destroying kids *aghem* social media is destroying kids!

keep going, churchy!

[Botten]

4. video games cause violence
5. dungeons and dragons is devil worship
6. sex in media is destroying kids *aghem* social media is destroying kids!

keep going, churchy!

tangent much?

[unsunghero]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axdIo1HZjgM

1. Flashes White Power symbol for pictures
2. Drinks while underage but hey it was with his mom (the two are classy)
3. White Supremacy group; Proud Boys sings Kyle their Anthem

And lets not forget Kyles own confession on video before enacts the killing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se9ByJMPjcc

Kyles own karma regardless of how this ends will be his undoing.

I could see the video being admissible in his trial. However, right at the start he says I think one of them has a weapon. So if sounds like the context would be he would shoot a robber who he thinks has a weapon. Still is bad for his case, but could be argued as to save a life. For example, there just was an Asian 24yr old college grad killed in Chicago over his stuff. Someone demanded his stuff…he gave it over, shot to death right after. So shooting an armed robber could save a life, if that robber was in the act of threatening someone. It would be hard to argue this context because it isn’t explicitly stated in the video, although he does say he thinks one has a weapon

[Whale biologist]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axdIo1HZjgM

1. Flashes White Power symbol for pictures
2. Drinks while underage but hey it was with his mom (the two are classy)
3. White Supremacy group; Proud Boys sings Kyle their Anthem

And lets not forget Kyles own confession on video before enacts the killing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se9ByJMPjcc

Kyles own karma regardless of how this ends will be his undoing.

That's fine though. Let the boy drink a beer before he does 10-40. :p

[unsunghero]

The white power thing is just a meme I think. I railed at my younger cousin when I saw him flash it in a family picture. I was like wtf you Neo Nazi? (Politely) he said he wasn’t political (and he’s not, he’s never cared) it’s just an internet/gaming meme he said

[Botten]

I could see the video being admissible in his trial. However, right at the start he says I think one of them has a weapon. So if sounds like the context would be he would shoot a robber who he thinks has a weapon. Still is bad for his case, but could be argued as to save a life. For example, there just was an Asian 24yr old college grad killed in Chicago over his stuff. Someone demanded his stuff…he gave it over, shot to death right after. So shooting an armed robber could save a life, if that robber was in the act of threatening someone. It would be hard to argue this context because it isn’t explicitly stated in the video, although he does say he thinks one has a weapon

Well then I guess it was foreshadowing because one of the people he shot but didn’t kill did have a gun.

[Ooloo]

The white power "symbol" is absolutely a meme. I believe it started as a joke where 4chan wanted to see if they could convince the public that something as stupid as that hand gesture is a "white power symbol", and guess what? You idiots took the bait.

The proud boys aren't a white supremacy group and were also started as a joke that you fell for

Kyle being angry that people are looting and wanting to stop them from looting is not some evil confession of blood lust. That event most likely motivated him to go to kenosha and protect property. Notice he didn't shoot anyone who was just rioting, he only shot people who were threatening his life directly. Hence it's clear self defense, and you creep jobs hoping and praying this 18 year old kid spends the rest of his life in prison are fucking creepy. Rittenhouse has already exhibited 10x the character of you vultures.

[Convict]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axdIo1HZjgM

1. Flashes White Power symbol for pictures
2. Drinks while underage but hey it was with his mom (the two are classy)
3. White Supremacy group; Proud Boys sings Kyle their Anthem

And lets not forget Kyles own confession on video before enacts the killing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se9ByJMPjcc

Kyles own karma regardless of how this ends will be his undoing.

I mean none of this really affects the self defense case.. all it affects is public opinion on forum boards such as this. This case is open and close self defense with multiple video evidence supporting that eventual verdict. The kid could be an absolute piece of shit (doubt he is tbh. hes just a kid). Should he have been there? Should he have had a gun? Probably not but it doesn't matter now. Still those guys charged him, intent on harming him with weapons (skateboards, handguns, blades who knows what else) he was the one running away clearly showing clear intention he did not want to fire on them but they left him no choice once they got him on the ground and reached for his weapon barrel. The defenses witness has already admitted to this. This case is over.

[Ooloo]

Give him a slap on the wrist for possessing a gun like six months before he's old enough to and be done with it. This trial is such a ridiculous side show.

First degree murder? Are you serious? We just toss charges around now like they mean nothing, and then intimidated juries who have leftist nutjobs trying to dox them have no choice but to make the wrong call.

The lynch mob has no power though guys! It's just that, ya know, 99% of the time people cave and end up doing what they say, but other than that they have no power!

[Whale biologist]

Give him a slap on the wrist for possessing a gun like six months before he's old enough to and be done with it. This trial is such a ridiculous side show.

First degree murder? Are you serious? We just toss charges around now like they mean nothing, and then intimidated juries who have leftist nutjobs trying to dox them have no choice but to make the wrong call.

The lynch mob has no power though guys! It's just that, ya know, 99% of the time people cave and end up doing what they say, but other than that they have no power!

The weapon charge is probably getting dismissed. (https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/crime/2021/11/12/jury-instruction-may-clear-kyle-rittenhouse-gun-possession-charge-kenosha/8588970002/) The prosecution didn't bother proving it.

[Knowledge]

Maybe the lesson here is don't bring a pistol to an AR15 fight. People are dead because group 1 decided to peacefully protest and burn shit down while group 2 wanted to play po-lice or war hero or whatever game you wanna call it.

It's a mostly peaceful protest, though it appears we've lost the courthouse to fire.

[Ooloo]

The weapon charge is probably getting dismissed. (https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/crime/2021/11/12/jury-instruction-may-clear-kyle-rittenhouse-gun-possession-charge-kenosha/8588970002/) The prosecution didn't bother proving it.

Yeah I think because there may be exceptions for long rifles in certain situations so it was a grey area anyway. Handguns are definitely illegal under 18 though.

But in other words, the prosecution has *absolutely* no case here. If this kid goes to prison it will be a sick injustice. This is like the inverse of the OJ trial, cause this time the prosecution has no case and the defendant is actually innocent.

[Knowledge]

BUT the defendant is a NASCAR fan. Gotta make examples of them NASCAR fans.

LeBron and his cult thinks those were crocodile tears.

[Whale biologist]

Yeah I think because there may be exceptions for long rifles in certain situations so it was a grey area anyway. Handguns are definitely illegal under 18 though.

But in other words, the prosecution has *absolutely* no case here. If this kid goes to prison it will be a sick injustice. This is like the inverse of the OJ trial, cause this time the prosecution has no case and the defendant is actually innocent.

If you read the article it goes into jury instructions on lesser-charges, ie reckless homicide instead of murder 1. Kinda fucked up they get to just change it like that.

[Ooloo]

Crying over reliving the trauma of being forced to shoot three people after keeping it bottled up for 18 months while there is massive public scrutiny against you and masses of strangers calling for your head? All while you're only 18? NAHHH, crocodile tears!!!

Meanwhile, if you call me the wrong word by accident you have PTSD'ed me and deserve to be fired even if you have a family to feed.

[nostalgiaquest]

Was more like crocodile hyperventilating. Eyes were dryer than Shapiro's wife. Fire the acting coach.

[BlackBellamy]

Welp...they just dropped the misdemeanor charge. All those people who were like at least he'll get convicted on that need to readjust.

[Ooloo]

Was more like crocodile hyperventilating. Eyes were dryer than Shapiro's wife. Fire the acting coach.

Thanks edgelord. You must have a PHD in what 18 year old kids really look like having a giant panic attack on the stand for murder and potential life in prison for something they didn't do. I suppose you'd maintain your composure just dandy!

[Tunabros]

who tf is kyle rittenhouse yo

[Patriam1066]

who tf is kyle rittenhouse yo

A redneck who looks like his has downs

[Whale biologist]

Welp...they just dropped the misdemeanor charge. All those people who were like at least he'll get convicted on that need to readjust.

:D

[walfreyydo]

Thanks edgelord. You must have a PHD in what 18 year old kids really look like having a giant panic attack on the stand for murder and potential life in prison for something they didn't do. I suppose you'd maintain your composure just dandy!

Ooloo cried with Kyle, clearly

[Jibartik]

Just saying, if every protestor did what Rittenhouse did (instead of burning down innocent peoples buildings) we'd have no protestors, rioters, more job openings, lower rent (because these guys dont own) and gas prices, among other things. Basically more room in this country which would be great.

Since we're redefining words these days, I say just make what Rittenhouse did what we define protesting as and lower the surplus pop a bit!

[hobart]

BUT the defendant is a NASCAR fan. Gotta make examples of them NASCAR fans.

We agree here.

I'll pretend you're not being sarcastic because I've never seen you be right before.

[Jibartik]

I wonder if the jury is listening to the pross right now like, "listen to this guy lol just give it up already."

[nostalgiaquest]

Thanks edgelord. You must have a PHD in what 18 year old kids really look like having a giant panic attack on the stand for murder and potential life in prison for something they didn't do. I suppose you'd maintain your composure just dandy!

Calm down Strawman

[unsunghero]

From reading the youtube comments people seem split 50/50 (probably along party lines) as to whether Kyle's crying is genuine or fake

Interestingly enough, the last time I've heard of people making accusations of fake crying was following the Sandy Hook massacre, where there was a conspiracy that due to analysis of the parents of the victims "crying" in interviews, there was the thought that they were actually "crisis actors" and not even really the parents of the victims. One notable video showed a dad of a deceased victim laughing and making jokes with the interviewer before transitioning into "crying" for the interview, so people thought he was a crisis actor

Even if we are coming from the assumption that Kyle is a sociopath with no regard for human life, it would still be more plausible than not that he would show some emotion when recounting events where he believed his own life was in danger. I've also seen different people who DID get convicted of first or second degree murder appear traumatized when relating during a confession to police as to how the victims appeared as they were dying, notably the sounds and movements they were making. Even cold-hearted killers have sometimes found that disturbing, usually because they were low IQ morons who's only impression of what a human looks like as it's dying was from tv or movies. Someone that's hunted (not that I'm a big hunter or anything) usually understands that a large animal dying is not as fast, quiet, or glamorous as the movies make it out to be, and that includes us humans

I'm rambling but anyway, not gonna comment as to whether I believe his response other than that

[Whale biologist]

Even if we are coming from the assumption that Kyle is a sociopath with no regard for human life

Crying aside, does 2nd degree reckless homicide require a complete disregard for human life?

[Jibartik]

I predict there will be no riots if he gets off.

[Jibartik]

Welp...they just dropped the misdemeanor charge. All those people who were like at least he'll get convicted on that need to readjust.

am I wrong, but did this happen:

1. prosecution brought this charge up today.
2. judge pointed out nobody measured the barrel..
3. they measured the barrel, found out it was legal, and tossed that charge?

Not only is it shocking that they were charging him with something that was false, but that the defense didn't even figure that out. They all just believed the press, reporting that it was illegal without finding out if that was true.

Both scary and laughable at the same time.

[unsunghero]

Crying aside, does 2nd degree reckless homicide require a complete disregard for human life?

No idea

[starkind]

From reading the youtube comments people seem split 50/50 (probably along party lines) as to whether Kyle's crying is genuine or fake

Interestingly enough, the last time I've heard of people making accusations of fake crying was following the Sandy Hook massacre, where there was a conspiracy that due to analysis of the parents of the victims "crying" in interviews, there was the thought that they were actually "crisis actors" and not even really the parents of the victims. One notable video showed a dad of a deceased victim laughing and making jokes with the interviewer before transitioning into "crying" for the interview, so people thought he was a crisis actor

Even if we are coming from the assumption that Kyle is a sociopath with no regard for human life, it would still be more plausible than not that he would show some emotion when recounting events where he believed his own life was in danger. I've also seen different people who DID get convicted of first or second degree murder appear traumatized when relating during a confession to police as to how the victims appeared as they were dying, notably the sounds and movements they were making. Even cold-hearted killers have sometimes found that disturbing, usually because they were low IQ morons who's only impression of what a human looks like as it's dying was from tv or movies. Someone that's hunted (not that I'm a big hunter or anything) usually understands that a large animal dying is not as fast, quiet, or glamorous as the movies make it out to be, and that includes us humans

I'm rambling but anyway, not gonna comment as to whether I believe his response other than that

I'm Libertarian anarchist, I still think we need social pograms tho to fix and help the broken and dying so they can be comfortable. And I don't know if his crying is real or not, I would aquit tho, because it sets a stupid precedent and he isn't the bad guy. There were a ton of badguys there that night and of all of them he has better character than most.

Most people wont admit that tho. It's "omg evul guns and bigotry!"

He will grow up the rest of the way to be a bigot if u throw him in jail and don't sit down and have beer with him and don't employ him.

I was just like that at his age just without a low key civil war going on in the background and I grew cute bewbs and took a selfie and had a tinder account with thirsty bois chasing me. so U NEVER KNOW.

it's clear he's no hero and a giant fuckup right now, however, so were all the parties involved i don't think he's a monster, he found hate and voilence tho because he was trying to be macho - and there were criminals all around. the left using this to justify it's own assinine behavior just about as dumb as it gets.

[Whale biologist]

prosecutor is dunking

[Jibartik]

From reading the youtube comments people seem split 50/50 (probably along party lines) as to whether Kyle's crying is genuine or fake

Interestingly enough, the last time I've heard of people making accusations of fake crying was following the Sandy Hook massacre, where there was a conspiracy that due to analysis of the parents of the victims "crying" in interviews, there was the thought that they were actually "crisis actors" and not even really the parents of the victims. One notable video showed a dad of a deceased victim laughing and making jokes with the interviewer before transitioning into "crying" for the interview, so people thought he was a crisis actor

Even if we are coming from the assumption that Kyle is a sociopath with no regard for human life, it would still be more plausible than not that he would show some emotion when recounting events where he believed his own life was in danger. I've also seen different people who DID get convicted of first or second degree murder appear traumatized when relating during a confession to police as to how the victims appeared as they were dying, notably the sounds and movements they were making. Even cold-hearted killers have sometimes found that disturbing, usually because they were low IQ morons who's only impression of what a human looks like as it's dying was from tv or movies. Someone that's hunted (not that I'm a big hunter or anything) usually understands that a large animal dying is not as fast, quiet, or glamorous as the movies make it out to be, and that includes us humans

I'm rambling but anyway, not gonna comment as to whether I believe his response other than that

im a leftist (up until the party fliip) and I think his crying was real, because I am not a heartless conservative (which is since the party flip is what democrats are made up of) so yeah idk just trying to call democrat heartless conservatives after the party flip.

[unsunghero]

lol watching the kyle testimony while leveling through 45, prosecutor asks is it true your tiktok user name is "4doorsMoreWhores", correct?

[Jibartik]

this is literally the defense's closing argument, their best case against kyle, "So who's there? these guys? with their AR15s? Just wanna be soldiers. Acting tough."

Their closing argument and entire case is, "Klye is a conservative jerk"

lol

[Jibartik]

The prosecution showing a video during their closing argument, "watch this guy in yellow, he's gonna shove rosenbalm like 20 feet away...." plays video and there is no shove-- "I guess it was another guy that did that... anyway nobody is afraid of this guy!"

LOL!

Watch this: *shows video where that doesn't happen

Well, that's ok my point stands, case closed.

https://i.imgur.com/TzAHcdL.gif

[unsunghero]

The dude is still gonna have to go into witness protection after this

He commented he's studying nursing at Arizona State University....yeah that better be online...

[Trexller]

The dude is still gonna have to go into witness protection after this

He commented he's studying nursing at Arizona State University....yeah that better be online...

he'll probably be alright, people walk after proven self defense cases every day, we only hear about it when it can be sensationalized for political purposes.

this will be forgotten in public mind exactly 1 second after he is no longer useful to the marxist media, they just want to spin public sentiment against personal defense. Like in the U.K. where the only official legal defense against assault on your person is a rape whistle.

Also, now people know that Kyle Rittenhouse will not shy from defense of his person, and regardless of the verdict, he'll come out of this with alot of allies.

[Jibartik]

yeah, it's white people that hate this guy and they are as fickle as the wind.

[Trexller]

eh its only the facebook hive mind that has been duped into believing white supremacists are more than a few dozen idiot rednecks.

every year there is less independent critical thought going on, if any major decision comes up more and more people look to social media for other's takes on the concepts they can't figure out for themselves.

its a growing hive mind, and thats just how the powers that be want it.

[Horza]

Marxist media and communist shareholders, do Trumptards use madlibs to come up with this gibberish or are you just quoting a Fox News host?

[Jibartik]

Marxist media and communist shareholders, do Trumptards use madlibs to come up with this gibberish or are you just quoting a Fox News host?

idk trump cope post

but speaking of fox, right now they are showing the defense closing argument, while CNN is not after showing the prosecutions for 4 Horus this morning.

What a joke your "the other side" nonsense is.

CNN cant risk its viewers hearing a rational argument. How sad.

[Elizondo]

Marxist media and communist shareholders, do Trumptards use madlibs to come up with this gibberish or are you just quoting a Fox News host?

Brandon is terrible cope

[Trexller]

Marxist media and communist shareholders, do Trumptards use madlibs to come up with this gibberish or are you just quoting a Fox News host?

I have eyes and ears and higher than average cognitive function, which serve analyze the world around me, from hundreds of sources ranging from readings to pop culture to personal experience.

Taking the pulse of the world isn't that difficult, if you pay attention.

[Robot]

lol dont think ive seen horza post once where he didnt have the word trumpard in there at least once

trump will never be homeless when he has rent free real estate in this guys head

poor guy

[Whale biologist]

idk trump cope post

but speaking of fox, right now they are showing the defense closing argument, while CNN is not after showing the prosecutions for 4 Horus this morning.

What a joke your "the other side" nonsense is.

CNN cant risk its viewers hearing a rational argument. How sad.

Try a different link there's a billion YouTubes broadcasting it as it happens. Choosing to find something to be mad about is Marxist as hell.

[robayon]

i'm not going to read 38 pages when like one of three people here is on my ignore list but i am not convinced it's even about kyle rittenhouse's supposed crimes anymore, it's about setting up a precedent for killing protestors

because the lizard people know that the only tool we have left in the box is mass protest, voting certainly doesn't change anything or they'd outlaw that too

[Jibartik]

What's great about modern society in the USA right now is, that this is a black and white self defense case, and about an individuals right to due process, justice & liberty.

But we're so insane now, that we think it's about setting a precedent to start a second civil war.

https://i.imgur.com/5irRQLe.gif

[Elizondo]

i'm not going to read 38 pages when like one of three people here is on my ignore list but i am not convinced it's even about kyle rittenhouse's supposed crimes anymore, it's about setting up a precedent for killing protestors

because the lizard people know that the only tool we have left in the box is mass protest, voting certainly doesn't change anything or they'd outlaw that too

Bro they burned down businesses and caused like 2 Bil in damages

That ain't protesting dude. dat's an insurrection.

Hero Kyle blew away a pedo too. cherry on top

[robayon]

history is full of one event sparking a series of larger ones

i'm not saying this causes a civil war necessarily, i'm just saying if he's acquitted the horseshit "self defense" defense will be used again, because killing people to prevent property damage already happens all the time in america, it's one of the primary roles of the pigs

[Jibartik]

Hey I'm not saying it isnt. What I am saying is it's actually the most basic fundamental right we have, and that we're so unhinged that it is an event that sparks a series of larger ones.

:)

[Elizondo]

history is full of one event sparking a series of larger ones

i'm not saying this causes a civil war necessarily, i'm just saying if he's acquitted the horseshit "self defense" defense will be used again, because killing people to prevent property damage already happens all the time in america, it's one of the primary roles of the pigs

Bro you watch the case and all the videos?

[Elizondo]

Hey I'm not saying it isnt. What I am saying is it's actually the most basic fundamental right we have, and that we're so unhinged that it is an event that sparks a series of larger ones.

:)

If antifa pedos were kickin down dude's door and settin fires to his house and property he'd blow them away. low iq peeps need to stop watchin CNN

[Castle2.0]

Prosecutor is terrible.
There is no case.
Kyle walks.

Next.

[Jibartik]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/qukj4a/defense_attorney_in_ahmaud_arbery_case_moves_for/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

wow Ahmaud Arbery case I havent been watching but sounds like it's the lit one?

[Elizondo]

Prosecutor is terrible.

16221

[Jibartik]

16221

I literally said outload when I saw that, did he just point the gun at the jury?

lol

[robayon]

Prosecutor is terrible.
There is no case.
Kyle walks.

Next.i expect he'll have a job offer at fox news by the end of the week

[Elizondo]

I literally said outload when I saw that, did he just point the gun at the jury?

lol

His finger on the trigger too

[Jibartik]

imagine if he alec baldwined one of them lol

[Gatordash]

I guess that's one way to get a jury to find in your favor.

16222

[unsunghero]

I guess that's one way to get a jury to find in your favor.

16222

Good thing AR's don't really recoil hard because that stock positioning seems off

And yeah, if Alec has taught us anything it's adhere to basic gun safety ALWAYS

[Knowledge]

We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won't. And we're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off.

[starkind]

i just want to die in peace on my own in my own bed without people making a god damn racket

[Botten]

Horrible judge fumbled the description of the law so badly a Georgetown law graduate could not even understand the explanation; when shown.

Pathetic excuse for partisan Judge again had his Trump campaign phone ringtone go off in court again.

The terrible excuse for a judge removed the possession of dangerous gun charge because the barrel of the gun wasn’t long enough. An army grade gun wasn’t dangerous enough for the judge.

Judge is far worse than the prosecuting lawyer.

Who seriously let’s the accused killer of two, lean over to the side of the shoulder of a judge.

Waste of time to the American people.

[Jibartik]

We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won't. And we're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off.

https://i.imgur.com/WtAjtkw.png

[Ooloo]

Horrible judge fumbled the description of the law so badly a Georgetown law graduate could not even understand the explanation; when shown.

Pathetic excuse for partisan Judge again had his Trump campaign phone ringtone go off in court again.

The terrible excuse for a judge removed the possession of dangerous gun charge because the barrel of the gun wasn’t long enough. An army grade gun wasn’t dangerous enough for the judge.

Judge is far worse than the prosecuting lawyer.

Who seriously let’s the accused killer of two, lean over to the side of the shoulder of a judge.

Waste of time to the American people.

The judge is impartial, it's just that the prosecution has so little case and is so full of shit and bad faith that the judge has to scold them much more often, making him appear biased. He's a bit frustrated because as a sane person, he understands this trial is ridiculous and shouldn't even be happening. Hth.

[Knowledge]

Cry those libtears

Take your estrogen shots

[robayon]

america must be destroyed

[Botten]

The judge is impartial, it's just that the prosecution has so little case and is so full of shit and bad faith that the judge has to scold them much more often, making him appear biased. He's a bit frustrated because as a sane person, he understands this trial is ridiculous and shouldn't even be happening. Hth.

Well you didn’t read.

1. Judge fumbles through the laws to the jury
2. The judge unprofessionally had his Trump campaign song ringtone go off in court for a second time
3. Terrible judge removed a charge because he thought an army grade barrel on the gun wasn’t long enough.
4. The judge has an accused killer of two lean over his shoulder while looking at evidence.

And some how Baler got out of all of that, that the Judge was impartial and sane.
Baler get help!
.

[robayon]

get it right

when the judge is a right wing blowhard, they are impartial
when the judge is a right wing liberal, they are activist judges

[starkind]

Baler hasn't posted in this thread once, IDK who you are calling sane/insane.

[Jibartik]

yes yes the other sides are corrupt

[Horza]

Baler hasn't posted in this thread once, IDK who you are calling sane/insane.

https://i.imgur.com/Bus3bV6.jpg

[Whale biologist]

Well you didn’t read.

1. Judge fumbles through the laws to the jury
2. The judge unprofessionally had his Trump campaign song ringtone go off in court for a second time
3. Terrible judge removed a charge because he thought an army grade barrel on the gun wasn’t long enough.
4. The judge has an accused killer of two lean over his shoulder while looking at evidence.

And some how Baler got out of all of that, that the Judge was impartial and sane.
Baler get help!
.

You'll be glad for the judge's "bias" when the verdict survives repeated appeals.

Rittenhouse the Reckless, long may he serve his sentence. :p

[Botten]

Baler hasn't posted in this thread once, IDK who you are calling sane/insane.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3379790&postcount=7559

It is strange that the forum recently had a poster on a second account test whether they could use a Derogatory word for a gay male in their user name but somehow a user name that looks like 4 knuckles and an extended middle finger is allowed.

But Baler has always tested his limits see the banned sign he put under his name for a day until he almost did get banned. He isn’t good with apologies. Or learning.

[Whale biologist]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3379790&postcount=7559

I already deadnamed Ooloo and it isn't Baler, both of you go stand in the dunce corner.

[Botten]

I already deadnamed Ooloo and it isn't Baler, both of you go stand in the dunce corner.

I am all for a new name. Let’s hear it !

[Whale biologist]

I am all for a new name. Let’s hear it !

Deadnaming is mean. I said I wouldn't do it anymore so I won't. :p

[Botten]

Deadnaming is mean. I said I wouldn't do it anymore so I won't. :p

Then there is no harm in calling who he posts like.

[Whale biologist]

Then there is no harm in calling who he posts like.

Well maybe but I already said it so I gotta.

https://i.imgur.com/e6kBSuk.gif

[Castle2.0]

People have lost touch with reality. Their words don't match what IS, i.e. "peaceful protestors."

Part stupid, part evil. Both rot the moral compass. Repent.

[Bardp1999]

Have they let Rittenhouse off yet or is this sham of a trail still going? Not keeping up with it at all

[Whale biologist]

Have they let Rittenhouse off yet or is this sham of a trail still going? Not keeping up with it at all

He won't get got for the murder 1s but will do a bid for the reckless charges.

waiting for starkind to advise

[Knowledge]

Kyle and Bannon will do time but nary a charge for lying Fauci

The Illuminati are above the law that's why OJ got off -LAPD masons purposefully fucked up blood evidence.

[Whale biologist]

Kyle and Bannon will do time but nary a charge for lying Fauci

The Illuminati are above the law that's why OJ got off -LAPD masons purposefully fucked up blood evidence.

Bannon won't do time, you're dumb.

[Elizondo]

They gonna find him guilty for everything

want peepz to get desensitized to kangaroo courts

[Jibartik]

Steven bannon is like, one of the most important figures on earth in the last 2,000 years he's going to be in the bible 2

[Gustoo]

They gonna find him guilty for everything

want peepz to get desensitized to kangaroo courts

This is a legit possibility.

[Jibartik]

He's protected by god.

[Trexller]

I guess that's one way to get a jury to find in your favor.

16222

bad trigger discipline; first thing about gun safety.

doesn't know shit about guns; doesn't have a right to talk about them

would have laughed if he pulled a Baldwin(tm); wouldn't be funny

[Ooloo]

Jury retiring until tomm. Deliberated all day, hopefully a good sign. Two jurors flat out stated they are hesitant because of backlash from rioting though (which presumably means they think he's innocent but are scared to say it). Welcome to the age of jury intimidation and kangaroo courts. You wanted this, leftie psychos.

[Jibartik]

Welcome to the age of jury intimidation

https://i.imgur.com/bpl3m5C.png

[Toxigen]

Jury retiring until tomm. Deliberated all day, hopefully a good sign. Two jurors flat out stated they are hesitant because of backlash from rioting though (which presumably means they think he's innocent but are scared to say it). Welcome to the age of jury intimidation and kangaroo courts. You wanted this, leftie psychos.

yup

[hobart]

Jury retiring until tomm. Deliberated all day, hopefully a good sign. Two jurors flat out stated they are hesitant because of backlash from rioting though (which presumably means they think he's innocent but are scared to say it). Welcome to the age of jury intimidation and kangaroo courts. You wanted this, leftie psychos.

You're ok with 17-year olds intentionally inserting themselves into volatile situations while open-carrying rifles as long as they're using them to own the libs.

You're the yin to their yang.

[Jibartik]

Ideally we just have 17 and under's become wards of the state and live in a educational complex.

[Ooloo]

You're ok with 17-year olds intentionally inserting themselves into volatile situations while open-carrying rifles as long as they're using them to own the libs.

You're the yin to their yang.

Haha, no, great strawman though. Although, under the circumstances he really didn't do anything wrong. He actually did something pretty admirable, and appropriate given his level of training. People keep pointing out he was only 17 to discount his ample gun, EMT and safety training.

Love the euphemisms though "Volatile situations" = "insane people burning down the town he works in, and his family lives in, that is only about 20 miles away from his home, and in which the cops are overwhelmed and unable to handle the unrest"

Don't get mad at the protesters for BEING THERE in the first place, burning shit down, for some retarded bullshit reason about a rapist getting shot by cops, nahhhh fuck all that, let's get mad at kyle for putting out fires and providing medical aid to people who hate him. What an awful guy!

[Jibartik]

Hobart for the record yes we are ok with Americans policing their own streets.

[Ooloo]

Rittenhouse critics keep condemning his "vigilantism", meanwhile the ENTIRE riot was pure vigilantism. The slogan "No justice, no peace" is basically a synonym for vigilantism.

But as usual, the left has no principles and is only selectively outraged over "vigilantism" when it suits them.

[Whale biologist]

Jury retiring until tomm. Deliberated all day, hopefully a good sign. Two jurors flat out stated they are hesitant because of backlash from rioting though (which presumably means they think he's innocent but are scared to say it). Welcome to the age of jury intimidation and kangaroo courts. You wanted this, leftie psychos.

Source on this is Jack Posobiec, notable Pizzagate "reporter" on the Twitter hellsite.

[Whale biologist]

Ideally we just have 17 and under's become wards of the state and live in a educational complex.

25 and under but just males.

[Jibartik]

Source on this is Jack Posobiec, notable Pizzagate "reporter" on the Twitter hellsite.

cool then im going to spam it.

[Whale biologist]

Hobart for the record yes we are ok with Americans policing their own streets.

That's called a lynch mob.

I'll get flack on this, but I'm right so whatever. :p

[Jibartik]

eVerY SiGn cAn Be rAciSt! look at these klanners! look at this lynching!

https://i.imgur.com/31EeeHU.png

nikce horza shtick but lets hope it doesn't stick.

[Castle2.0]

Police should do their job of protecting life and property.

Politicians should do their job of funding police and not telling police to stand down.

17-yr olds should do their job of getting good grades.

But if police don't do their jobs, politicians don't do their jobs... I find it admirable a 17-yr old has the cajones to fill their shoes.

[Whale biologist]

eVerY SiGn cAn Be rAciSt! look at these klanners! look at this lynching!

https://i.imgur.com/31EeeHU.png

nikce horza shtick but lets hope it doesn't stick.

Did you try googling it?

Turn it off and on again.

[Jibartik]

googling what?

are you trying to tell me that, you can google: Americans policing their own streets.

and there is some sort of official definition I have to agree with that says that it means: a lynch mob.

[Jibartik]

If policing the streets is wrong, is picking up trash wrong?

this is such a stupid sentiment.

This is America, it is perfectly legal, culturally OK, and a fundamental right for you to police your own streets.

Why are we having such a basic bitch debate about firearms? What is this 2004? The set of the VIEW?

You're above this whale, what gives?

[Whale biologist]

googling what?

are you trying to tell me that, you can google: Americans policing their own streets.

and there is some sort of official definition I have to agree with that says that it means: a lynch mob.

lynching, a form of violence in which a mob, under the pretext of administering justice without trial, executes a presumed offender

Roadhouse man bad.

[Elizondo]

You're ok with 17-year olds intentionally inserting themselves into volatile situations while open-carrying rifles as long as they're using them to own the libs.

So you're admitting that there was a violent mob burning stuff down

[Jibartik]

this is what you'd rather have? Sorry go to China.


OTFNEbUcStQ

lynching, a form of violence in which a mob, under the pretext of administering justice without trial, executes a presumed offender

Are you under the impression that the police are the trial, jury, and judgment on the street? Come on, this is not judge dread, the "police" are not administering justice without trial when they act in self defense either.

Your man, your house, your entire universe here is made of straw.

[Duik]

Was there some particular reason the burning and violence was taking place? I'm assuming it was some sort of grievance cuz someone shot a dark skinned personage of no particular gender?
Could a 17yr old African American national be able to walk the streets with their gun to quell the unrest as Kyle (Douggie) Rittenhouser MD did and not be challenged by authorities?
Did Douggie know why there was unrest in the first place?
Also, what the actual fuck was that dipshit prosecutor doing holding that gun thusly. Are we sure he's actually trying to prosecute Kyle, or just himself. I don't have guns, but even I wouldn't think that's is a good way to achieve ANYTHING positive. Wow. At least Judge Dredd Djunior hit his mark. Kudos. Prolly let him off, give him a badge cuz he gets shit done.

[Whale biologist]

this is what you'd rather have? Sorry go to China.


OTFNEbUcStQ



Are you under the impression that the police offer trial, jury, and judgment on the street? Come on, this is not judge dread, the "police" are not administering justice without trial when they act in self defense either.

Your man, your house, your entire universe here is made of straw.

Are you under the impression police don't bring offenders to a court of law for trial?

Kyle uses an AR-15 to decide their guilt.

[Jibartik]

Was there some particular reason the burning and violence was taking place? I'm assuming it was some sort of grievance cuz someone shot a dark skinned personage of no particular gender?
Could a 17yr old African American national be able to walk the streets with their gun to quell the unrest as Kyle (Douggie) Rittenhouser MD did and not be challenged by authorities?
Did Douggie know why there was unrest in the first place?
Also, what the actual fuck was that dipshit prosecutor doing holding that gun thusly. Are we sure he's actually trying to prosecute Kyle, or just himself. I don't have guns, but even I wouldn't think that's is a good way to achieve ANYTHING positive. Wow. At least Judge Dredd Djunior hit his mark. Kudos. Prolly let him off, give him a badge cuz he gets shit done.

Educated lefties, can understand why someone would go out and perform violence and riot if they felt unheard in politics.

But they want to shut the right up at all costs.

Think about it.

https://i.imgur.com/QDYNC3m.gif

[unsunghero]

Was there some particular reason the burning and violence was taking place? I'm assuming it was some sort of grievance cuz someone shot a dark skinned personage of no particular gender?
Could a 17yr old African American national be able to walk the streets with their gun to quell the unrest as Kyle (Douggie) Rittenhouser MD did and not be challenged by authorities?
Did Douggie know why there was unrest in the first place?
Also, what the actual fuck was that dipshit prosecutor doing holding that gun thusly. Are we sure he's actually trying to prosecute Kyle, or just himself. I don't have guns, but even I wouldn't think that's is a good way to achieve ANYTHING positive. Wow. At least Judge Dredd Djunior hit his mark. Kudos. Prolly let him off, give him a badge cuz he gets shit done.

Police shot a black dude who had just sexually assaulted his ex and was going for a knife, guy also had a warrant

It doesn’t matter. Regardless of whether it was justly or unjustly, whenever police kill a black person the media is going to shove that shit in everyone faces for months until America goes ape shit over it, then media will cover the riots they just helped create

The only question is, what are you going to do when the next one happens? I’ve said it before, ima stay the F home until it blows over unless it is at my home. If anyone else has other ideas, props for being willing to put yourself in harm’s way, feel free to don a Batman outfit and go fight crime whenever

[Duik]

Yep. Mobs aren't real clever. Individuals can be though.

[unsunghero]

Yep. Mobs aren't real clever. Individuals can be though.

Ya

Mobs are dumb and dangerous. Always have been, always will be

[Whale biologist]

If Mr Rittenhouse is entitled to due process, so were Rosenbaum and Huber.

We can't have these sub-25 males running around playing pony soldier in our streets.

[Elizondo]

If Mr Rittenhouse is entitled to due process, so were Rosenbaum and Huber.

We can't have these sub-25 males running around playing pony soldier in our streets.

Pretty sure Rosenbaum was familiar with due process when he forcibly raped 5 year old boys

[Whale biologist]

Pretty sure Rosenbaum was familiar with due process when he forcibly raped 5 year old boys

Rittenhouse couldn't possibly have known that, rendering his summary judgment criminal.

[unsunghero]

If Mr Rittenhouse is entitled to due process, so were Rosenbaum and Huber.

We can't have these sub-25 males running around playing pony soldier in our streets.

Ya I mentioned being Batman because he just prevents the crime, he doesn’t kill people. However the reason he doesn’t kill people isn’t because it’s his one rule, it’s because the writers have created implausible ways to for him to prevent crime and defend himself without killing people

Or does he? Remember this funny skit? All of the Badman ones are great

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1byycwl8qgc

[Elizondo]

Rittenhouse couldn't possibly have known that, rendering his summary judgment criminal.

Rittenhouse was just protectin himself from a convicted pedo

He's a hero

[Botten]

This case has been so super charged by politics and by race the core issues have been forgotten.

In the media and in apps this case has become left vs right; second amendment vs gun control; so called ‘patriots’ vs BLM. So lets attempt to break this down to its most simple form so we can see what really needs to be analyzed here.

I notice an official sign from the police department that says traveling down main street is an arrest-able offense. So this morning I was walking to work down the main street of my town. I ignore the sign. And observed a few individuals spray painting cars; tagging them so to speak. Wasn’t my car; wasn’t my neighbor’s car, they were just random cars along the side street of owners I did not know.

I approach the individuals and order them to stop. The individuals flip me the bird. So I pulled out my gun and I told them to stop. One of the individuals, looked at me, dropped his spray paint can and charged at me.

He was not armed with a knife or with a gun or with anything else. He did not have anything else in his hand and I could not see anything else.

But he was menacing.
I was frightened.
I felt threatened.
I feared for my life.
So I fired four times.
Hitting him each time. He died.

AM I LEGALLY JUSTIFIED IN MY ACTIONS?!
Or is this murder?

1. The first issue is may I use deadly force to project those cars?

And the answer is No.

For Three simple reasons.

i. I didn’t own the cars they weren’t mine
ii. The owners of those cars did not ask me or hire me to protect those cars
iii. Those cars were not being stolen. They weren’t being taken away. They were only being defaced.

So no I cannot use deadly force to protect that property.

2. May I use deadly force to protect myself from the charging man.

And the answer is No. Why?

i. Because I provoked him. It is called Provocation! (Even with a stand my ground law. The exception is that when you do something to provide a situation you cannot then use deadly force to defend yourself. Neither from the threat of force or the use of force that you provoked.)

It is as simple as that, folks.

Kyle Rittenhouse should be found guilty on all the accounts here.

1. Take race out of the matter.
2. Take politics out of the matter.
3. And just look at the facts. Use your common sense in this verdict should be easy.

Whether you think his victims deserve it has nothing to do with it.
Whether you think my family and I does or does not live 20 miles away, has nothing to do with it.
Whether you think I am a medic, has nothing to do with it.

I was being a vigilante and as a result I killed someone.

[Skarne]

Idk man looked like self defense to me. He’s not a hero though, he’s just a dumb kid who shot people.

[Whale biologist]

Ya I mentioned being Batman because he just prevents the crime, he doesn’t kill people. However the reason he doesn’t kill people isn’t because it’s his one rule, it’s because the writers have created implausible ways to for him to prevent crime and defend himself without killing people

Or does he? Remember this funny skit? All of the Badman ones are great

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1byycwl8qgc

Good show haha I thought I watched all of them in a binge but that one was new.

The sex one with Talia and Bane is the best.

[Elizondo]

This case has been so super charged by politics and by race the core issues have been forgotten.

In the media and in apps this case has become left vs right; second amendment vs gun control; so called ‘patriots’ vs BLM. So lets attempt to break this down to its most simple form so we can see what really needs to be analyzed here.

I notice an official sign from the police department that says traveling down main street is an arrest-able offense. So this morning I was walking to work down the main street of my town. I ignore the sign. And observed a few individuals spray painting cars; tagging them so to speak. Wasn’t my car; wasn’t my neighbor’s car, they were just random cars along the side street of owners I did not know.

I approach the individuals and order them to stop. The individuals flip me the bird. So I pulled out my gun and I told them to stop. One of the individuals, looked at me, dropped his spray paint can and charged at me.

He was not armed with a knife or with a gun or with anything else. He did not have anything else in his hand and I could not see anything else.

But he was menacing.
I was frightened.
I felt threatened.
I feared for my life.
So I fired four times.
Hitting him each time. He died.

AM I LEGALLY JUSTIFIED IN MY ACTIONS?!
Or is this murder?

1. The first issue is may I use deadly force to project those cars?

And the answer is No.

For Three simple reasons.

i. I didn’t own the cars they weren’t mine
ii. The owners of those cars did not ask me or hire me to protect those cars
iii. Those cars were not being stolen. They weren’t being taken away. They were only being defaced.

So no I cannot use deadly force to protect that property.

2. May I use deadly force to protect myself from the charging man.

And the answer is No. Why?

i. Because I provoked him. It is called Provocation! (Even with a stand my ground law. The exception is that when you do something to provide a situation you cannot then use deadly force to defend yourself. Neither from the threat of force or the use of force that you provoked.)

It is as simple as that, folks.

Kyle Rittenhouse should be found guilty on all the accounts here.

1. Take race out of the matter.
2. Take politics out of the matter.
3. And just look at the facts. Use your common sense in this verdict should be easy.

Whether you think his victims deserve it has nothing to do with it.
Whether you think my family and I does or does not live 20 miles away, has nothing to do with it.
Whether you think I am a medic, has nothing to do with it.

I was being a vigilante and as a result I killed someone.

Bro nobody would have been there if Dem Media didn't lie about Jacob Blake and Brandon voters hadn't decided to loot and burn the city because they believed the lies

Pedo attacked hero Kyle and threatened to kill him. he wasn't some innocent bystander. it's only political cuz hammer and sickle crowd tryin to use another lie to ignite a revolution

[Jibartik]

The prosecution referred to one of the victims as jump kick man this cant possibly have been a self defense case.

[Whale biologist]

Bro nobody would have been there if Dem Media didn't lie about Jacob Blake and Brandon voters hadn't decided to loot and burn the city because they believed the lies

Pedo attacked hero Kyle and threatened to kill him. he wasn't some innocent bystander. it's only political cuz hammer and sickle crowd tryin to use another lie to ignite a revolution

Juries good; will you support the verdict regardless of outcome Y/N? :(

[Elizondo]

Juries good; will you support the verdict regardless of outcome Y/N? :(

I already said they gonna find him guilty on everything

There's a bloodthirsty mob of Brandon voters outside threatening to burn everythin down if he's acquitted. It's just a kangaroo court dictated by mob rule. Not a real trial.

[Castle2.0]

Someone caught the summary on CNN and didn't actually watch any of the arguments. Tsk tsk.

You probably still think Kyle carried the gun across state lines. Tsk tsk.

[Castle2.0]

Extremist Libs: "We will not stand for violence! He must be guilty!"

*jury correctly votes not guilty on all charges*

Also Extremist Libs: "We're burning this city to the ground and attacking people until the violence stops!"

[Whale biologist]

Someone caught the summary on CNN and didn't actually watch any of the arguments. Tsk tsk.

You probably still think Kyle carried the gun across state lines. Tsk tsk.

The gun charge got dismissed so I don't know why anyone would think that, dumbass.

[Botten]

Bro nobody would have been there if Dem Media didn't lie about Jacob Blake and Brandon voters hadn't decided to loot and burn the city because they believed the lies

Pedo attacked hero Kyle and threatened to kill him. he wasn't some innocent bystander. it's only political cuz hammer and sickle crowd tryin to use another lie to ignite a revolution

No one other than law enforcement was supposed to be there according to the cops.

Your political driven feels bare no facts to the murder.

The victim’s background has nothing to do with the fact whether he should have or not have been murdered.

Regardless of what politically motivates your reason as to how the case should end has nothing to do with a clear vigilante act.

He should be found guilty. Hopefully the jury is impartial as they should be.

[Castle2.0]

You forget your CNN feed as soon as you read it?

CNN, ABC, trash media alike all got it wrong.

"Kyle Rittenhouse carried blahblahblah across state lines."

Incoming facts. Preemptive apology your head will hurt.

https://news.ipswoa.org/2021/10/08/fact-check-did-kyle-rittenhouse-carry-firearm-across-state-lines/

[Botten]

You forget your CNN feed as soon as you read it?

CNN, ABC, trash media alike all got it wrong.

"Kyle Rittenhouse carried blahblahblah across state lines."

Incoming facts. Preemptive apology your head will hurt.

https://news.ipswoa.org/2021/10/08/fact-check-did-kyle-rittenhouse-carry-firearm-across-state-lines/

A. You won’t find my Analogy on CNN

B. Whether the gun came from over state lines or was mine or his has nothing to do with a vigilante murder case.

[Whale biologist]

You forget your CNN feed as soon as you read it?

CNN, ABC, trash media alike all got it wrong.

"Kyle Rittenhouse carried blahblahblah across state lines."

Incoming facts. Preemptive apology your head will hurt.

https://news.ipswoa.org/2021/10/08/fact-check-did-kyle-rittenhouse-carry-firearm-across-state-lines/

Don't read opinion articles anywhere, you silly goose. 😛

[Elizondo]

Don't read opinion articles anywhere, you silly goose. 😛

bro can you read?

https://content.govdelivery.com/bulletins/gd/ILLAKE-2a5977e

To that end, the investigation revealed the gun used in the Kenosha shooting was purchased, stored and used in Wisconsin. Additionally, there is no evidence the gun was ever physically possessed by Kyle Rittenhouse in Illinois.

[Whale biologist]

bro can you read?

https://content.govdelivery.com/bulletins/gd/ILLAKE-2a5977e

"Bro", did I make that claim at any point in this thread?

You barking at the moon dummy.

[Knowledge]

Because its 18 and life to goooo. Long, dark road ahead.

[Trexller]

No one other than law enforcement was supposed to be there according to the cops.

Your political driven feels bare no facts to the murder.

The victim’s background has nothing to do with the fact whether he should have or not have been murdered.

Regardless of what politically motivates your reason as to how the case should end has nothing to do with a clear vigilante act.

He should be found guilty. Hopefully the jury is impartial as they should be.

ill comment on one of the victims, convicted pedophiles should be murdered, ideally by the state.

Because its 18 and life to goooo. Long, dark road ahead.

he'll have alot of allies, regardless of the verdict.

[Convict]

This case has been so super charged by politics and by race the core issues have been forgotten.

In the media and in apps this case has become left vs right; second amendment vs gun control; so called ‘patriots’ vs BLM. So lets attempt to break this down to its most simple form so we can see what really needs to be analyzed here.

I notice an official sign from the police department that says traveling down main street is an arrest-able offense. So this morning I was walking to work down the main street of my town. I ignore the sign. And observed a few individuals spray painting cars; tagging them so to speak. Wasn’t my car; wasn’t my neighbor’s car, they were just random cars along the side street of owners I did not know.

I approach the individuals and order them to stop. The individuals flip me the bird. So I pulled out my gun and I told them to stop. One of the individuals, looked at me, dropped his spray paint can and charged at me.

He was not armed with a knife or with a gun or with anything else. He did not have anything else in his hand and I could not see anything else.


AM I LEGALLY JUSTIFIED IN MY ACTIONS?!
Or is this murder?

1. The first issue is may I use deadly force to project those cars?

And the answer is No.

For Three simple reasons.

i. I didn’t own the cars they weren’t mine
ii. The owners of those cars did not ask me or hire me to protect those cars
iii. Those cars were not being stolen. They weren’t being taken away. They were only being defaced.

So no I cannot use deadly force to protect that property.

2. May I use deadly force to protect myself from the charging man.

And the answer is No. Why?

i. Because I provoked him. It is called Provocation! (Even with a stand my ground law. The exception is that when you do something to provide a situation you cannot then use deadly force to defend yourself. Neither from the threat of force or the use of force that you provoked.)

It is as simple as that, folks.

Kyle Rittenhouse should be found guilty on all the accounts here.


I was being a vigilante and as a result I killed someone.

you're analogy doesnt fit kid, because in this case the attackers DID have guns and wepaons. It was his life or theirs. Also they were starting fires and destroying businesses which is endangerment to the community, your weak ass analogy of tagging cars with graffiti does not fit here. There is also no evidence that Kyle provoked anybody. The only video evidence that exists shows them chasing him with weapons. From a jurors point of view this is clear self defense sorry bud you are just plain wrong.

[Elizondo]

"Bro", did I make that claim at any point in this thread?

You barking at the moon dummy.

no worries

glad you confirmed it wasn't an opinion article

[hobart]

Don't get mad at the protesters for BEING THERE in the first place, burning shit down, for some retarded bullshit reason

See, that's what you Trumptards don't get. Normal people are mad at that too. It's possible to have two thoughts in your head at the same time.

You're ok with a 17 year old psycho instigating violence because he was owning Libs.

It's not like he took a gun to the capital to defend it and shot a couple of your political brethren. You'd haven been outraged and he would have never gone in the first place.

[Trexller]

ok normal guy, that 17 y/o hero didn't instigate violence, he responded to it after actively trying to avoid it. He didn't chase people down, they chased him down.

No trumptards took guns to the capital and shot "a couple of your political brethren" that was just one scared cop.

so really, if we're trumptards, what does that make you, just a normaltard?

[Botten]

you're analogy doesnt fit kid, because in this case the attackers DID have guns and wepaons. It was his life or theirs. Also they were starting fires and destroying businesses which is endangerment to the community, your weak ass analogy of tagging cars with graffiti does not fit here. There is also no evidence that Kyle provoked anybody. The only video evidence that exists shows them chasing him with weapons. From a jurors point of view this is clear self defense sorry bud you are just plain wrong.

1. The first victim had no weapon. And died with no weapon on him.

2. Whether they or I are endangering community property that is not mine or his property, is not a valid claim for protection of said property. And certainly not justification of vigilante murder in a place only allowable to law enforcement.

3. Kyle put out fires and even followed protestors. This was more than enough for provocation. (This does not including the 6 other pieces of evidence bring into question whether the gun was aimed at the victims before the ordeal.)

You have NOT proven a thing.

It is still a vigilante murder in a place the defendant has no place being.

[Elizondo]

3. Kyle put out fires and even followed protestors. This was more than enough for provocation.

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[Castle2.0]

Where's the part where Kyle advanced on the 'victims' to kill them?

Wait, they threatened him, they chased him, hit him in the head with a skateboard, pointed a gun at him, lunged at him, grabbed his gun, with a large mob... as he retreated.

Seriously, are you brain dead?

Open. Shut. Self-defense.

The only victim in this case is Kyle.

He should sue the State for bringing such a case so hastily and without any serious proof that would lead to "beyond a reasonable doubt"

He should sue the "bicep vaporized" loser for assault once he is vindicated as having acted in self-defense.

He should look into suing CNN and other media sources. The last time CNN lied about an 'unruly mob' (not an actual one) they lost a $275M defamation case. Round 2?

[Trexller]

1. The first victim had no weapon. And died with no weapon on him.

2. Whether they or I are endangering community property that is not mine or his property, is not a valid claim for protection of said property. And certainly not justification of vigilante murder in a place only allowable to law enforcement.

3. Kyle put out fires and even followed protestors. This was more than enough for provocation. (This does not including the 6 other pieces of evidence bring into question whether the gun was aimed at the victims before the ordeal.)

You have NOT proven a thing.

It is still a vigilante murder in a place the defendant has no place being.

interpretation of wisconsin law isn't your strong suit, is it?

if Kyle had been one of the mob burning down kenosha, in your mind he'd have had "Every Right To Be There, It's His First Amendment Right" then you'd have been trying to find him on grinder, only to be disappointed, however i get the impression that feeling is a close friend of yours.

[Castle2.0]

Kyle put out fires... This was more than enough for provocation.

I missed this. Thank you for answering my question whether or not you are brain dead.

[Castle2.0]

Imagine Kyle is liberal and black. Now imagine all the protestors are white in a black neighborhood.

Does the CNN/ABC coverage do an immediate 180?

This is why morally bankrupt partisan hacks who purely seek political power will become less and less relevant.

Social media is eating MSM. It will continue, even as the left seeks to limit free speech and regulate (read: control) social media where conservatives do much better.

[Botten]

Where's the part where Kyle advanced on the 'victims' to kill them?

Wait, they threatened him, they chased him, hit him in the head with a skateboard, pointed a gun at him, lunged at him, grabbed his gun, with a large mob... as he retreated.

Seriously, are you brain dead?

Open. Shut. Self-defense.

The only victim in this case is Kyle.

He should sue the State for bringing such a case so hastily and without any serious proof that would lead to "beyond a reasonable doubt"

He should sue the "bicep vaporized" loser for assault once he is vindicated as having acted in self-defense.

He should look into suing CNN and other media sources. The last time CNN lied about an 'unruly mob' (not an actual one) they lost a $275M defamation case. Round 2?

Regardless of what Cletus (Elizundo) thinks

I said while the weapon was drawn the first victim without a weapon charged and died. This is a not proper stand your ground or proper self defense excuse to shot the victim 4 times and kill him.

This is still a vigilante murder in a place only law enforcement should be in.

[Castle2.0]

This is a not proper stand your ground or proper self defense excuse to shot the victim 4 times and kill him.

OHHHH, I forgot, all of your gun knowledge comes from lib journos who never held a gun, and Hollywood where the guns aren't real unless you are Alec Baldwin.

You're right, he should have shot him 2cm above the knee, and 3cm to the right of the femur to subdue him, doing the least amount of damage. We've seen the movies. Only takes 1 shot.

Narrator: And this is an actual stupid lib argument against "too many" shots from police on meth heads with guns and knives about to kill people....

You are in fact brain dead. Are you aware of this?

Do you know how long it took to shoot 4 bullets? 0.75 seconds. But I am sure you caught that in the case during arguments...

# of bullets doesn't make self-defense just or unjust. I figure 1 second to fire as many bullets as you like to eliminate a threat to one's life is fair. Next lame argument, please.

[Botten]

I missed this. Thank you for answering my question whether or not you are brain dead.

Partial phrasing and the fact you don’t understand what constitutes as Provocation doesn’t justify this vigilante murder in a place only law enforcement should be in.

[Botten]

interpretation of wisconsin law isn't your strong suit, is it?

if Kyle had been one of the mob burning down kenosha, in your mind he'd have had "Every Right To Be There, It's His First Amendment Right" then you'd have been trying to find him on grinder, only to be disappointed, however i get the impression that feeling is a close friend of yours.

No one other than law enforcement should have been there and you are by your own admittance now are making it political

[Trexller]

Regardless of what Cletus (Elizundo) thinks

I said while the weapon was drawn the first victim without a weapon charged and died. This is a not proper stand your ground or proper self defense excuse to shot the victim 4 times and kill him.

This is still a vigilante murder in a place only law enforcement should be in.

specify, "without a weapon charged" if someone is pointing a firearm at you, you ALWAYS assume that a round has been racked or charged into the chamber.

maybe you meant, "attempted to close the distance"? If you have demonstrated belligerence in actions, and then make attempt to run me down, then there is a very good chance that I will fire at you, and having it all caught on video, I will be righteously exonerated.

[Botten]

OHHHH, I forgot, all of your gun knowledge comes from lib journos who never held a gun, and Hollywood where the guns aren't real unless you are Alec Baldwin.

You're right, he should have shot him 2cm above the knee, and 3cm to the right of the femur to subdue him, doing the least amount of damage. We've seen the movies. Only takes 1 shot.

Narrator: And this is an actual stupid lib argument against "too many" shots from police on meth heads with guns and knives about to kill people....

You are in fact brain dead. Are you aware of this?

Do you know how long it took to shoot 4 bullets? 0.75 seconds. But I am sure you caught that in the case during arguments...

# of bullets doesn't make self-defense just or unjust. I figure 1 second to fire as many bullets as you like to eliminate a threat to one's life is fair. Next lame argument, please.

You have not disproved the analogy but only added you political view.

[Castle2.0]

If you keep repeating "vigilante murder" it 100% proves your case. Good one.

You are in fact brain dead. The proof has been this conversation.

I don't mind debating with reasonable people. Your posts have shown you are not one.

I want to preserve my brain cells. Enjoy pushing your feckless arguments.

Kyle will walk free.

Cheers.

[Trexller]

Walk free? eh as much as I would like to see this hero freed, i believe they will pin some misdemeanor charge on him, so as to please the barely conscious simian libfacists.

while its a cut and dry self defense case, there is too much politics to consider.

The jury is out, and right now the Wizconsin governor and the rest of their cronies are trying to gauge how much political fallout that they will receive should Kyle be entirely exonerated. The backlash is palpable, and they know it, so they are gonna have to "go thru the motions of justice" and hit him with some trumped up lesser charge, so that they don't get their cities burned down by simians, but not really prosecuting an innocent kid either.

[Botten]

specify, "without a weapon charged" if someone is pointing a firearm at you, you ALWAYS assume that a round has been racked or charged into the chamber.

maybe you meant, "attempted to close the distance"? If you have demonstrated belligerence in actions, and then make attempt to run me down, then there is a very good chance that I will fire at you, and having it all caught on video, I will be righteously exonerated.

The first victim had no weapons. Charging an individual who was first Provoked is not stand your ground or even a valid form of self defense allowing the victim to be shot and killed. That’s just the law sorry you don’t agree with it.

[Elizondo]

No one other than law enforcement should have been there and you are by your own admittance now are making it political

Orange Dude offered to send in the national guard to assist and the WI guv denied the request bro

[Botten]

Orange Dude offered to send in the national guard to assist and the WI guv denied the request bro

Like you irrelevant to the case.

[Elizondo]

Like you irrelevant to the case.

No one other than law enforcement should have been there and you are by your own admittance now are making it political

city was in flames and you don't think they needed help? 100 cops had it all under control?

you real low iq man

[Trexller]

The first victim had no weapons. Charging an individual who was first Provoked is not stand your ground or even a valid form of self defense allowing the victim to be shot and killed. That’s just the law sorry you don’t agree with it.

lol who even are you? horza's main forum acct?

kyle didnt provoke anyone that night. he carried his rifle and med kit into a warzone, was greeted with hostility and responded accordingly.

provocation would be yelling, "hey innocent people minding your own business, im gonna shoot you"

i understand how this does not compute in the liberal brain, most of you enjoy being trodded upon, cuckold cowards that you are

[Duik]

So, did they let Captain Gunderpants off yet?
Also, are you saying botten is a bot?

[unsunghero]

Kyle instigated UNKNOWINGLY, in my opinion, by putting out a fire nearby the people who just started that fire for a reason (anarchy, arson, whatever), or this is what I heard. Maybe I heard wrong. But if it is true, there is a damn good chance any of those people who witness someone undoing what they just did is going to have a big problem with it, and with that person

This is kinda common sense shit, even a 17yr old should understand. I'm not victim blaming here, but let me use an analogy. I see a store being robbed by a gang. I stand outside as the gang hands merchandise hand over fist out the window to a waiting truck. I pull out my phone and the gang can now hear me saying "yes 911, I'd like to report a robbery". All of a sudden I get knocked the F out! Or shot. Or stabbed. But definitely something. When all I would need to do to avoid this would be to move out of earshot and eyesight of the gang THEN call the police. Again pretty common sense shit

Just because something is the RIGHT thing to do, doesn't mean there isn't still a dumb way to do it

[Trexller]

Unsungmondaymorningquarterback,

So, if i see something on fire in public, I should ignore it, or I'm a white supremacist terrorist?

Where I come from, heroes run toward the crisis, cowards flee and tell someone else, and by then the innocent victims are dead, but im sure solace can be found in having done, "the right thing, the smart way"

anyway bro, did you ever end up bangin' that cutie temp girlie from work?

[Duik]

Lmao. Hero.

[unsunghero]

Unsungmondaymorningquarterback,

So, if i see something on fire in public, I should ignore it, or I'm a white supremacist terrorist?

Where I come from, heroes run toward the crisis, cowards flee and tell someone else.

I’ve made this point before, he said he was there to do some good, and that meant helping people and putting out fires

If him or I are there to do some good, we will be able to do the most good when not being attacked by other people. Therefore priority 1 in the doing good should be: make sure the scene is secure before rendering aid. It’s the same protocols that EMT’s and paramedics use, something that Kyle seems to aspire to be

They have these protocols not because they are cowards, but because they will be incapable of doing the job they are there to do, and become a new liability for others to need to now assist when they get hurt

[unsunghero]

anyway bro, did you ever end up bangin' that cutie temp girlie from work?

Naw, never saw her again. I will if/when I do tho

[Duik]

Heroes, unsung or not should never fall for temp-tation.

[unsunghero]

Heroes, unsung or not should never fall for temp-tation.

Lol

[unsunghero]

Maybe I am armchair quarterbacking too much. I’ve just in my job had to focus on personal safety constantly when around people who are sometimes psychotic and/or on hard drugs with a history of violence. Sometimes I even have to set a boundary and tell them no, tell them that this thing they really want is not going to happen. And before I do in my mind my first priority is thinking how can I best do this in a way that is not going to provoke an attack

I’m never scared of them usually, not that I’m allowed to fight back though. It’s the incident report, the de-briefing with the supervisor after, that’s the nightmare I don’t want to face

So I’m projecting my constant concern for personal safety when executing a job on an idealistic 17yr old kid. Might indeed be quarterbacking too much