View Full Version : [11/31] New Red Server Launch Date Announced
Chortles Snortles
10-28-2021, 06:43 PM
Fresh off the discord press :eek:
Scalem
10-28-2021, 06:54 PM
Didn't say what year
Fammaden
10-28-2021, 07:25 PM
Just emailed my boss that I need to take a month off starting on November 31st, thanks for the heads up.
Penish
10-28-2021, 07:30 PM
ohman :D
wuanahto
10-28-2021, 08:03 PM
300~ some people fucking around the second newbie zones for the first week
30~ some people who stick around to end game
Id pay to watch streams of Blackburrow, Crushbone and Kurns on week1
Tunabros
10-28-2021, 08:12 PM
Just emailed my boss that I need to take a month off starting on November 31st, thanks for the heads up.
Ripqozko
10-28-2021, 08:21 PM
Pvp in EQ is lame, hope that helps. If it was good red would have more then a 50man pop. Consider playing almost any mmo with pvp.
Grumph
10-28-2021, 09:26 PM
Wow
Worry
10-28-2021, 10:11 PM
cool! i actually think pvp fits the toxic raid scene of p99 very well, i wish red99 had blue or greens pop.
Rader
10-28-2021, 10:26 PM
Fresh off the discord press :eek:
No one gets that November 31st doesn't exist?
LOL
unsunghero
10-28-2021, 10:28 PM
Pvp in EQ is lame, hope that helps. If it was good red would have more then a 50man pop. Consider playing almost any mmo with pvp.
I was wondering about this as well
How balanced is EQ pvp? I took a shaman to around 40ish on Sullon Zek launch but barely remember it
I was wondering about this as well
How balanced is EQ pvp? I took a shaman to around 40ish on Sullon Zek launch but barely remember it
1v1? Dog shit for most of the classes. You can negate some of the class balance issues with consumables/clickies but that also creates other issues where you can't really do much without seeking out of class assistance via items. So some classes will just be good with no added effort while others need to sink in plat and time to stand a chance. When you are in corpse recovery mode it gets even worse as quite a few classes can't do much of anything while naked while the classes that are naturally good can still put up a fight or avoid them altogether.
Group vs Group can actually quite good, but it also depends on composition, gear, and skill. If both groups are relatively equal then the fight is good.
Raid vs Raid is a shit show but also incredibly fun. Sometimes you rolled the other side and it was done with while other times you get locked into a fight that spans multiple hours and zones.
Skill level often trumps gear but it requires a deeper understanding of the game. A group of pvp vets could reroll and would absolutely destroy any level appropriate group they came across. There are probably some long time players that could 1v2,3,4,5, or even 6 against low skill/beginner players. So just like with PvE there is room for some extreme skill expression.
Overall its fine but somewhat difficult for people to get into. EQ also being a 24/7 PvP game makes it more difficult for more casual players to get into. The success that WoW had with its PvP servers was largely due to being able to step outside of it for a bit and not having to worry about every player you saw. Even though you could gank and corpse camp people 40 levels below you it didn't stop people from being able to go to capital cities, dungeons, or raids to get away from it. This is probably why people enjoyed the Teams servers so much. You could roll whatever the biggest faction was and thus negate most of the anxiety. On Sullon Zek the game played out a lot like WoW did if you played Evil, you could safely sit around your cities, run dungeons, and even sometimes raid without having to deal with PvP. You were free to enjoy most of the PvE aspects of the game while also dipping into PvP when you felt like it. Not to say that Good and Neutrals didn't try their best but they were so outnumbered that some other group or groups would handle them while you sat at your camp collecting pixels.
quido
10-28-2021, 11:52 PM
sweet is your body ready
Tunabros
10-28-2021, 11:53 PM
november 31st doesn't even exist =(
wagorf
10-29-2021, 01:17 AM
obviously many of you did not play on pvp server in 1999-2001 era
1v1 pvp is unbalanced as shit, some classes like necro/druid/mage are just too easy to pick up without gear support, where as classes like rangers/bards/paladins are just pure dog shit.
level difference is huge impact due to spells getting resisted, unable to finish your opponent happens a lot because in most cases you just can't stop them from fleeing, and then there's the map hill/elevation issue where players may warp or you see enemies running in circles, it's a lot of bullshit
the only fun time was in the first 2 - 3 months of launch, where large groups of noob lvl 1-20 would fight at noob zone lines. getting guard npcs involved by training, and sneak/invis atk while they don't have see invis. at later levels pvp just becomes full bullshit
CancerMage
10-29-2021, 07:58 AM
you guys all miss the purpose of pvp server, has nothing to do with 1 on 1, its a higher dynamic of raid scene. The best wins, in raid pvp it's much more fair until you get into velious.
it is purely strategic skill who wins dragons before late velious as anyone can beat anyone in walmart gear to VP gear.
None of you made it past the getting good stage of leveling up and therfore have nothing to talk on besides your newb experiences.
Flexin
10-29-2021, 09:05 AM
300~ some people fucking around the second newbie zones for the first week
30~ some people who stick around to end game
Id pay to watch streams of Blackburrow, Crushbone and Kurns on week1
haha yeah there totally wasnt 3 guilds competing and 350-400 peaks in mid Kunark on red. Oh wait TMO went to red, empire had over 100 active raiders, and Azrael competed.
Maiten
10-29-2021, 09:25 AM
Ah yes, remember remember the 31st-est of November
*goes to mark the calendar*
*angry baby face*
Chortles Snortles
10-29-2021, 10:51 AM
sip
Grumph
10-29-2021, 10:56 AM
you guys all miss the purpose of pvp server, has nothing to do with 1 on 1, its a higher dynamic of raid scene. The best wins, in raid pvp it's much more fair until you get into velious.
it is purely strategic skill who wins dragons before late velious as anyone can beat anyone in walmart gear to VP gear.
None of you made it past the getting good stage of leveling up and therfore have nothing to talk on besides your newb experiences.
Wow. Straight fire right here.
wuanahto
10-29-2021, 11:34 AM
haha yeah there totally wasnt 3 guilds competing and 350-400 peaks in mid Kunark on red. Oh wait TMO went to red, empire had over 100 active raiders, and Azrael competed.
that i wouldnt know i started in like 2018
but sounds like a lie
and why didnt it last?
Chortles Snortles
10-29-2021, 11:44 AM
imagine not experiencing red 99s launch era
(LOL!)
Ripqozko
10-29-2021, 11:44 AM
that i wouldnt know i started in like 2018
but sounds like a lie
and why didnt it last?
Because red is even more autistic then blue, that's why they don't shut it down. Separate some of the autism.
Kohedron
10-29-2021, 11:49 AM
New Red will flop because you all would rather write book reports to the GM's than play the game. I understand. It's fine.
Gozuk
10-29-2021, 11:59 AM
Wish I didn't fall for this
Bardp1999
10-29-2021, 12:46 PM
https://i.imgur.com/8ctGoRN.jpg
Gustoo
10-29-2021, 12:49 PM
you guys all miss the purpose of pvp server, has nothing to do with 1 on 1, its a higher dynamic of raid scene. The best wins, in raid pvp it's much more fair until you get into velious.
it is purely strategic skill who wins dragons before late velious as anyone can beat anyone in walmart gear to VP gear.
None of you made it past the getting good stage of leveling up and therfore have nothing to talk on besides your newb experiences.
Negative. It's about a healthier social dynamic when dealing with all the static spawns in our open world game and basically everything else.
At raid levels who gives a shit whoever is playing the longest with the most amount of people and ass time is going to be most successful. PVP is about making the actual game play experience better, levels 1-59.
At level 60 who cares everything is done besides dragon slaying the game is over.
Gustoo
10-29-2021, 12:50 PM
And yeah it's a troll due to no 31st existing.
however I do suggest that the red community now petitions in real life for a 31st day to be added to november so that we can then rules-lawyer try to hold p99 staff to the november 31st promise lol
wuanahto
10-29-2021, 01:16 PM
https://i.imgur.com/8ctGoRN.jpg
I am in the mood for some cheddar and onion perogies tonight
Maiten
10-29-2021, 03:09 PM
I would love to build a server, but if the P99 team opens a new PvP server...
There just isn't enough time in the day for all my addictions..
unsunghero
10-29-2021, 03:39 PM
From hearing these descriptions of EQ pvp and comparing to my memories of WoW it doesn’t seem all that bad
WoW 1v1 pvp sounds significantly better than EQ’s but that doesn’t mean that it was balanced either. Some matchups such as war vs mage would go 0/100% at equal skill. And at the very high end with BiS gear SL/SL lock was just too tanky with double voidwalker sacrifice shields (with their talent that lets them instant summon another one)
It sounds like group vs group in EQ was more fair, same as in WoW
And raid vs raid no matter the game is really who can Zerg with more. I haven’t seen a MMO yet that can escape that simple formula. It’s why world pvp games like Shadowbane eventually always ended up with one giant conglomerate of guilds vs another. Little guild vs guild pvp squabbles become irrelevant as soon as one just joins another (and another) to pump up their numbers and auto win
Everyone pooling into two giant conglomerates over time with one eventually winning and dominating seems to be just human nature
AenorVZ
11-01-2021, 02:49 AM
Everyone pooling into two giant conglomerates over time with one eventually winning and dominating seems to be just human nature
It may or may not be human nature but it's essentially forced by the weird design choices made by the original EQ devs (massive bottlenecks). ST only recently started to be able to kill AoW on a consistent basis. A new PvP server would have maybe half the population of Velious era Green. There's no choice but to conglomerate if you want to do content.
Thomacles
11-01-2021, 04:00 AM
Yes, we so need a new Red server because everyone knows how spectacular the first one went..........
AenorVZ
11-01-2021, 04:20 AM
The first one never had a chance to be a timeline accurate rollout like Green has been. For the classic, we gotta run it back one more time.
Rick Sanchez
11-01-2021, 10:30 AM
a lot of people took the bait on this one and it did make me chuckle, however this doesn't change the fact that there should honestly be a pvp server that just wipes after a set time on the timeline. EQ PvP is like every other pvp in a mmo it's unbalanced and messy. But, it really does add a different dynamic to the game that can make it exciting.
Chortles Snortles
11-01-2021, 10:40 AM
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Rick's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Rick & Morty truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Rick's existential catchphrase "Wubba Lubba Dub Dub," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmon's genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them. 😂
And yes, by the way, i DO have a Rick & Morty tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid 😎
Polixa
11-01-2021, 12:26 PM
Nothing personnel, Mr Hi IQ.
Tunabros
11-01-2021, 12:27 PM
copy pasta
Bardp1999
11-01-2021, 01:07 PM
The only high numbers you have are arrests and BMI
Swish
11-01-2021, 06:12 PM
Because red is even more autistic then blue...
https://i.imgur.com/Xp71fZa.gif
Dolalin
11-02-2021, 07:57 AM
DROP TABLE PLAYERS;
Grats, new Red
starkind
11-02-2021, 09:22 AM
Red is a cool server for real people. Looking forward to 11/31
conoutoftrol
11-02-2021, 02:06 PM
How do the lists work on red?
Tunabros
11-02-2021, 02:40 PM
Red is a cool server for real people. Looking forward to 11/31
your a dumbass
Gustoo
11-02-2021, 03:26 PM
How do the lists work on red?
You walk into a zone and type /enter
All players you recognize are people level 40+ and are competing for manastone at evil eye.
You go to evil eye and lurk around to murder them just in time for the next eye to pop that you then kill yourself for hope of loot.
Tunabros
11-02-2021, 03:29 PM
You walk into a zone and type /enter
All players you recognize are people level 40+ and are competing for manastone at evil eye.
You go to evil eye and lurk around to murder them just in time for the next eye to pop that you then kill yourself for hope of loot.
sounds dumb as hell
AenorVZ
11-03-2021, 12:10 AM
Just because you are bad doesn't mean EQ PvP is bad.
Imago
11-03-2021, 12:41 AM
Just because you are bad doesn't mean EQ PvP is bad.
Ripqozko
11-03-2021, 12:44 AM
Red sucks , hope that helps .
starkind
11-03-2021, 05:21 AM
your a dumbass
https://i.imgur.com/FE5Mlhe.gif
Nahuelco
11-03-2021, 11:17 AM
15 more days and Red will turn 10!
https://wiki.project1999.com/About_Red99
Chortles Snortles
11-03-2021, 11:27 AM
Population of 10 too!
starkind
11-03-2021, 03:28 PM
If I could sit in a chair longer than 4 hrs I'd play red99 again
Tunabros
11-03-2021, 04:01 PM
If I could sit in a chair longer than 4 hrs I'd play red99 again
you sit on your chair talking on these forums for 20 hours a day
you fucking loser
Chortles Snortles
11-03-2021, 05:53 PM
.
starkind
11-04-2021, 01:30 PM
you sit on your chair talking on these forums for 20 hours a day
you fucking loser
thanksd for negging me
i thought we were done talking to eachother
let me help you with your phrasing
starkind is GROSS THEY NEVER GET OUT OF THEIR CHAIR I BET
probably tru
this way we can not have a conversation and just talk online at no one in particular
sorry u aren't english 1st language
hope this helps
Tunabros
11-04-2021, 01:46 PM
thanksd for negging me
i thought we were done talking to eachother
let me help you with your phrasing
probably tru
this way we can not have a conversation and just talk online at no one in particular
sorry u aren't english 1st language
hope this helps
no one likes you
hope this helps
also stop spamming up the off topic forums with dumb threads like "m'lady" and "dino
pics"
what are you? retarded?
starkind
11-04-2021, 01:49 PM
those are like some of the best threads here
yes
imho
why are you so mad it can't just be me
Tunabros
11-04-2021, 03:56 PM
those are like some of the best threads here
yes
imho
why are you so mad it can't just be me
all of them are just you and your three alt accounts talking to each other
LOOK AT YOURSELF
I am trying to help you
Just stop. Go outside. Breathe some air. Stop talking on here for 48 hours.
Can you do that?
starkind
11-04-2021, 04:19 PM
windows open right now and it's frigid about to get up and walk around a bit tho maybe i'll sit outside some
Tunabros
11-04-2021, 06:15 PM
windows open right now and it's frigid about to get up and walk around a bit tho maybe i'll sit outside some
yeah I'm done
your just fucking rarted
Chortles Snortles
11-04-2021, 06:18 PM
https://i.imgur.com/iCebnOk.gif
https://i.imgur.com/iCebnOk.gif
eisley
11-04-2021, 11:19 PM
1v1? Dog shit for most of the classes. You can negate some of the class balance issues with consumables/clickies but that also creates other issues where you can't really do much without seeking out of class assistance via items. So some classes will just be good with no added effort while others need to sink in plat and time to stand a chance. When you are in corpse recovery mode it gets even worse as quite a few classes can't do much of anything while naked while the classes that are naturally good can still put up a fight or avoid them altogether.
Group vs Group can actually quite good, but it also depends on composition, gear, and skill. If both groups are relatively equal then the fight is good.
Raid vs Raid is a shit show but also incredibly fun. Sometimes you rolled the other side and it was done with while other times you get locked into a fight that spans multiple hours and zones.
Skill level often trumps gear but it requires a deeper understanding of the game. A group of pvp vets could reroll and would absolutely destroy any level appropriate group they came across. There are probably some long time players that could 1v2,3,4,5, or even 6 against low skill/beginner players. So just like with PvE there is room for some extreme skill expression.
Overall its fine but somewhat difficult for people to get into. EQ also being a 24/7 PvP game makes it more difficult for more casual players to get into. The success that WoW had with its PvP servers was largely due to being able to step outside of it for a bit and not having to worry about every player you saw. Even though you could gank and corpse camp people 40 levels below you it didn't stop people from being able to go to capital cities, dungeons, or raids to get away from it. This is probably why people enjoyed the Teams servers so much. You could roll whatever the biggest faction was and thus negate most of the anxiety. On Sullon Zek the game played out a lot like WoW did if you played Evil, you could safely sit around your cities, run dungeons, and even sometimes raid without having to deal with PvP. You were free to enjoy most of the PvE aspects of the game while also dipping into PvP when you felt like it. Not to say that Good and Neutrals didn't try their best but they were so outnumbered that some other group or groups would handle them while you sat at your camp collecting pixels.
This.
This is precisely why Vallon Zek is so legendary in EQ lore for having an amazing community.
Teams made for a memorable experience, no relationships were disposable. We came to respect the enemy, and depend on our teammates. The raid scene was still wide enough that anyone could compete. Though xteamers kinda ruined it.
Still, good times.
Chortles Snortles
11-06-2021, 09:15 AM
soon
AenorVZ
11-08-2021, 02:48 AM
On Sullon Zek the game played out a lot like WoW did if you played Evil, you could safely sit around your cities, run dungeons, and even sometimes raid without having to deal with PvP. You were free to enjoy most of the PvE aspects of the game while also dipping into PvP when you felt like it.
Yep, Sullon Zek was PvP for bloobs, just like WoW.
Gustoo
11-10-2021, 12:04 PM
Sullon had the distinct disadvantage of coming out later than 1999 when the internet world had expanded significantly and the name of everquest had much appeal beyond the bounds of the DnD style fantasy players that originally were most enthusiastic about it.
So sullon launched and never enjoyed the balance of role playing inspired players against normal weirdos who kinda hate the game and want to break it.
Vallon, Tallon, and Rallos all had a great mix of players that we will never see again. Eisleys' Vallon memories are because there were actual roleplayers involved and respected the game and wanted the game to be good for all players and communities not just after their short term gains. Additionally it wasn't as clearly identified for years what was a BEST IN SLOT item and how rare any particular best in slot item was. Once those things were more solidly identified like they are here on p99 people can go full psychopath in order to obtain said item.
X teaming would be day 1 standard on red2.0 if there were soft coded teams, is only one example.
AenorVZ
11-11-2021, 03:11 AM
My guild Knights of Vallon was once asked by Defiant to help them take down VS because they didn't have the numbers. We wouldn't get rolls on an VS loot but if any regular dungeon loot dropped we could roll on it. Wouldn't you know it, a t-staff dropped on the clear in. Defiant being Defiant, they kept the t-staff.
I suspect that Defiant was a gigantic zerg because they understood that in order to do raid content on a PvP server with a +/- 8 level spread (not that bluebie four level spread like Rallos), you had to have a zerg big enough to PvP while your raid force took down mobs. In the end, it's the fault of EQ's developers for creating the massive bottlenecks that WoW avoided to great success.
I don't think there should be hard coded or soft coded teams. There should be temporary teams that dissipate over the life of the server.
Gustoo
11-11-2021, 11:35 AM
So...rallos style?
Rallos level range was probably selected more for pvp viability. When item loot is in play a character with an 8 level advantage is a virtual guaranteed win. A 4 level advantage was still huge but a group could handle that and a group of PK's was rare until max level.
You guys should have turned on Defiant the second that T staff dropped and you didn't get a roll.
Gustoo
11-11-2021, 11:36 AM
Mid PVE fight of course
Chortles Snortles
11-11-2021, 02:27 PM
SoOn
starkind
11-11-2021, 02:40 PM
Just enable pvp on all three servers.
Watch no one quit lol.
Gustoo
11-11-2021, 02:58 PM
Blue turning into PVP would be my dream. Probably no one would quit. The PVE guys at top are already well geared to defend their position like ascending dawn and all the anti pk's on rallos. Scrubs can start to try to kill them and disrupt things for gains and we can have quality pvp.
Translocate the entire EC zone to gfay bank lol
Chortles Snortles
11-11-2021, 02:59 PM
Turn the tunnel area into bazaar but only the area with tents
Polixa
11-11-2021, 03:31 PM
I dislike the open Hunger Games style of PvP where you can be randomly ganked just because some aresehole decides ruining your play session is fun for him.
If there was a way to enable PvP such that there were disincentives to roleplay homicidal maniacs I think more people would become interested.
Using PvP to resolve in-game issues... I can get behind role play reasons for PvP.
Stuff like hard-coded bounties on killers, or death warrants issued by NPCs authorising PvP against a particular character. Important new faction hits maybe.
starkind
11-11-2021, 03:37 PM
Rly proud of my idea that attacking certain mobs or doing certain quests would flag people pvp for 24 hrs.
starkind
11-11-2021, 03:38 PM
Rly proud of my idea that attacking certain mobs or doing certain quests would flag people pvp for 24 hrs.
Typing /list should as well lol
Jimjam
11-11-2021, 03:46 PM
/petition flags you as pvp.
If you both gonna bitch to server staff, settle it like adults that live in a basement playing the same dumb dnd 3d chatroom for 30 years.
azxten
11-14-2021, 11:24 PM
Blue turning into PVP would be my dream. Probably no one would quit. The PVE guys at top are already well geared to defend their position like ascending dawn and all the anti pk's on rallos. Scrubs can start to try to kill them and disrupt things for gains and we can have quality pvp.
Translocate the entire EC zone to gfay bank lol
Blue raid nerds already tried to PvP on red and got absolutely torn a new asshole. The only reason the PvP server isn't popular is because it uses the least popular PvP mechanic (red FFA) with made up non-classic coin loot.
It should have been red FFA with item loot same as classic to appeal to the trolls and griefers, teams with coin loot since it was the most popular EQ classic PvP ruleset, or SZ, or Discord. Just not made up non sense.
A teams PvP server, coin loot, with one non-classic mechanic which would be preventing cross team healing, grouping, and guilding would be a huge success. Teams PvP only one to get two servers in classic and only died because of the cross team abuse that became a necessity once others started doing it and turned it into a bizarro world PvP situation with invulnerable healers and all kinds of stupid mechanics you had to consider.
Personally if we're going to do some stupid made up rule set I'd go for red FFA rules but if you die to PvP your character is just deleted. There is no loot only sending your opponent back to level 1 with no equipment. Full corpse, bank, and skill wipe. This would at least maintain a population unlike current red. I'd be playing there right now.
For P99 I think guild wars would be best. Unguilded you can be attacked by anyone but can't attack anyone. Force people to guild. Guilds are immune to their own members and can attack everyone else. No beneficial spells cross guild. Each guild stands alone. Death erases all your opponents no drop items that they have on them. That would be sweet.
And speaking of cool shit that will never happen what we really need is a roleplay server with tradable no drops, no common language, and strictly enforced in game roleplay chat punished by permanent ban if you provide logs. The P99 community are mostly closeted roleplayers who just need some encouragement.
Grumph
11-15-2021, 12:02 AM
Blue raid nerds already tried to PvP on red and got absolutely torn a new asshole. The only reason the PvP server isn't popular is because it uses the least popular PvP mechanic (red FFA) with made up non-classic coin loot.
It should have been red FFA with item loot same as classic to appeal to the trolls and griefers, teams with coin loot since it was the most popular EQ classic PvP ruleset, or SZ, or Discord. Just not made up non sense.
A teams PvP server, coin loot, with one non-classic mechanic which would be preventing cross team healing, grouping, and guilding would be a huge success. Teams PvP only one to get two servers in classic and only died because of the cross team abuse that became a necessity once others started doing it and turned it into a bizarro world PvP situation with invulnerable healers and all kinds of stupid mechanics you had to consider.
Personally if we're going to do some stupid made up rule set I'd go for red FFA rules but if you die to PvP your character is just deleted. There is no loot only sending your opponent back to level 1 with no equipment. Full corpse, bank, and skill wipe. This would at least maintain a population unlike current red. I'd be playing there right now.
For P99 I think guild wars would be best. Unguilded you can be attacked by anyone but can't attack anyone. Force people to guild. Guilds are immune to their own members and can attack everyone else. No beneficial spells cross guild. Each guild stands alone. Death erases all your opponents no drop items that they have on them. That would be sweet.
And speaking of cool shit that will never happen what we really need is a roleplay server with tradable no drops, no common language, and strictly enforced in game roleplay chat punished by permanent ban if you provide logs. The P99 community are mostly closeted roleplayers who just need some encouragement.
Wow
Chortles Snortles
11-15-2021, 12:57 PM
closeted fire giants
Maiten
11-15-2021, 02:38 PM
Quick maths: 16 days to go!
walfreyydo
11-17-2021, 09:49 AM
The only reason the PvP server isn't popular is because it uses the least popular PvP mechanic (red FFA) with made up non-classic coin loot
Coin loot was the norm (at least on Tallon Zek) all through Kunark and Velious.
walfreyydo
11-17-2021, 09:50 AM
A teams PvP server, coin loot, with one non-classic mechanic which would be preventing cross team healing, grouping, and guilding would be a huge success. Teams PvP only one to get two servers in classic and only died because of the cross team abuse that became a necessity once others started doing it and turned it into a bizarro world PvP situation with invulnerable healers and all kinds of stupid mechanics you had to consider.
100% agree
starkind
11-17-2021, 10:02 AM
ya cross teaming sucked
Tunabros
11-17-2021, 12:15 PM
pvp server is never happening
stop daydreaming and join green
Gustoo
11-17-2021, 12:25 PM
Blue raid nerds already tried to PvP on red and got absolutely torn a new asshole. The only reason the PvP server isn't popular is because it uses the least popular PvP mechanic (red FFA) with made up non-classic coin loot.
It should have been red FFA with item loot same as classic to appeal to the trolls and griefers, teams with coin loot since it was the most popular EQ classic PvP ruleset, or SZ, or Discord. Just not made up non sense.
A teams PvP server, coin loot, with one non-classic mechanic which would be preventing cross team healing, grouping, and guilding would be a huge success. Teams PvP only one to get two servers in classic and only died because of the cross team abuse that became a necessity once others started doing it and turned it into a bizarro world PvP situation with invulnerable healers and all kinds of stupid mechanics you had to consider.
Personally if we're going to do some stupid made up rule set I'd go for red FFA rules but if you die to PvP your character is just deleted. There is no loot only sending your opponent back to level 1 with no equipment. Full corpse, bank, and skill wipe. This would at least maintain a population unlike current red. I'd be playing there right now.
For P99 I think guild wars would be best. Unguilded you can be attacked by anyone but can't attack anyone. Force people to guild. Guilds are immune to their own members and can attack everyone else. No beneficial spells cross guild. Each guild stands alone. Death erases all your opponents no drop items that they have on them. That would be sweet.
And speaking of cool shit that will never happen what we really need is a roleplay server with tradable no drops, no common language, and strictly enforced in game roleplay chat punished by permanent ban if you provide logs. The P99 community are mostly closeted roleplayers who just need some encouragement.
Good post.
Any new PVP server would be great.
I'd be super happy if when green cycled into blue, the next PVE TLP server was full roleplay strictly enforced. Something would have to be done about camping disputes though
starkind
11-17-2021, 01:05 PM
pvp server is never happening
stop daydreaming and join green
I actually did this. I joined green. Then I turned in my book in order to keep it fresh. :p
Looking forward to redgreen 2.0 or a new RP PvP server without cross teaming. And maybe without OOR heals.
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