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Hyjalx
10-02-2021, 05:11 AM
Hey guys, I just wanted to bring some attention to my application. I'm applying for GM of blue to help fix the raid scene. I've been playing on blue since week 3 of the servers life, and have been a part of just about every meta during its history. I also played on live on Bristlebane as a raid leader of Club Fu from Classic to Planes of Power.

I'd like to bring Bristlebane circa 99-03 raiding to the p99 raid scene and bring the classic experience back to the project. I'm passionate about the game, and even though I am not perfect by any means and have my history here, I believe the player base would be receptive and respect my tenure. If ya support me or don't support me, post here.


Things that will occur:

1. Dragons will be unrooted in ToV

2. Bag limits removed (Velious only or all expansions)

3. All dragons in Temple of Veeshan must be killed in the wing in which they spawn except for the following:

Ikatar
Eashan


All dragons beyond Aary must be killed within North Wing. All west dragons must be killed in West Wing. Dozekar must be killed in East wing. This will simulate PC power from the 99-03 era and encourage guilds to strategically pull to new areas and metas (aary stairs, doubles, etc). On bristlebane, guilds regularly pulled Eashan and Ikatar to zone in due to their proximity to zone in, and COTH'd to doubles to pull deeper ToV targets.


4. King Tormax and Statue of Rallos Zek foot racing returned to COTH and kill meta

5. Dain Frostreaver - Only 1 tracker from each guild is permitted in the zone at time of spawn. All others must be camped at zone in. Trackers cannot be COTH mages or be involved in the pull in any form. This should allow proper time for quest turn ins.

6. Fear golems claim target by suicide removed

7. Tunare permitted to be killed with kiting meta

8. Ring War will now be rotated

9. COTH permitted to Final Arbitor in ST. Other golems must be pulled and killed. Only 1 tracker from each entity permitted in zone at time of spawn.

9. Guilds will be given a choice to work things out during raid altercations or have their fate decided. Guild wide raid bans will not occur, but decisions will be heavy handed.

10. Lists to be removed from game

Hyjalx
10-02-2021, 05:14 AM
listed 9 twice, but whaaatever, haha. It's late.

Hyjalx
10-02-2021, 07:03 AM
Just to clarify on Dozekar the Cursed.

Due to its proximity to zone in, it should be considered to be entrance pullable along with Ikatar and Eashan. Gozzrem and Telk are close in proximity to the zone in as well, but were not commonly pulled to zone in.


While on the subject of Gozz and Telk, necro pet pulls (using a necro pet + bind sight to go undetected within North wing while FD to pull dragons should be considered a raid infraction going forward.

Further consideration may be needed on these circumstances, but I didn't want to leave them out.

xdrcfrx
10-02-2021, 09:16 AM
nah

Endorra
10-02-2021, 09:30 AM
I'll gladly offer my utterly meaningless support in exchange for your empty promises of free items and GM favoritism.

Jimjam
10-02-2021, 09:40 AM
9c) throttle internet to dial up speed, disconnects approx every 2 hours, and enforced 2130 bedtimes. No log in until after finishing home work and eating dinner. No skipping sports activities for eq.

Endorra
10-02-2021, 09:43 AM
9c) throttle internet to dial up speed, disconnects approx every 2 hours, and enforced 2130 bedtimes. No log in until after finishing home work and eating dinner. No skipping sports activities for eq.

But on Saturdays you can go to your friend's house whose parents dgaf and play for 14 hours through the night.

Ripqozko
10-02-2021, 10:02 AM
This is gonna be a no for me dawg

mycoolrausch
10-02-2021, 11:28 AM
I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that in November 2001 on your server there weren't at least 3 or more separate raid entities wielding 50+ strong fully geared level 60 raiders each ready to engage and kill any target in tov within moments of it spawning.

pink grapefruit
10-02-2021, 11:58 AM
Idk much about the bluebie raid scene but I like your energy!

You’ve got my vote 😄

Smoofers
10-02-2021, 12:41 PM
I'd buy that for a dollar

Jimjam
10-02-2021, 01:40 PM
But on Saturdays you can go to your friend's house whose parents dgaf and play for 14 hours through the night.

I’ll allow it!

Jayzeus
10-02-2021, 03:39 PM
I also played on live on Bristlebane as a raid leader of Club Fu from Classic to Planes of Power.

What was your name

Mblake1981
10-02-2021, 03:46 PM
I remember Pouty Lee

Tunabros
10-02-2021, 03:57 PM
you had me at dragons unrooted

Blistig
10-02-2021, 06:37 PM
nah

Bardp1999
10-02-2021, 06:52 PM
<I Grouped With Shinko>

Stryker85
10-02-2021, 07:40 PM
This meta definitely needs a shake up. I can dig it.

getsome
10-02-2021, 08:22 PM
Project 1999 Managers: Hyjal for GM - Project 1999 Blue

https://chng.it/jhZtxXnQhy

change.org petition (http://chng.it/jhZtxXnQhy)

starkind
10-02-2021, 08:35 PM
@op tryred.

Red needs GMs2

Hyjalx
10-02-2021, 08:54 PM
Bristlebane was actually one of the most competitive servers from live. We had 4 raid guilds in ToV during Velious....

Club Fu

Arch Overseers

Ring of Valor

Circle of Legends

Fu was the top dog, while RoV was 2nd, and CoL 3rd. Arch Overseers (an aussy guild) was just an East/Doz farming guild, but kept getting stronger. Because servers came up on patch day around 11am EST, AO started to kill everything by 3pm EST and quickly became #1. We were already farming the hell out of ST in FU and woke sleeper when they started showing up (Pouty did not want Vabtoo to get a robe).

I played as Acarer during this time. And was one of the top geared casters across all servers for several expansions. Many players on p99 were actually in these guilds, and remember me well. I led the charge in Velious, Luclin, and Planes of Power in FU.


So I definitely have played classic a few times and know what classic EQ is. What we have right now isn't close to anything classic. I remember laughing at AO on their first attempts to pull Eashan/Ikatar to zone in.... until they were killing them at zone in every morning at zone in after patch...

Even though patch days catered to early morning EST entities, at least AO didn't need 300 active raiders and 100+ online every day to make a move on us. P99 guilds are dead because of zerg meta and will be until we change things.

mycoolrausch
10-02-2021, 09:02 PM
So what you're really saying is

more quakes

Arvan
10-02-2021, 09:21 PM
How about no

starkind
10-02-2021, 09:23 PM
Op is 2 cucked 2 get dragons on blue in 21 and way 2 cuck 2 ever get even frog king on red. Is what he's saying he wants time travel so his guild can carry his fat ass like they did in 03

branamil
10-02-2021, 09:29 PM
Anyone remember when Hyjal logged into one of his guildmates characters and then trained a rival guild during Vulak because he was so disgruntled that his guild lost? Good times.

pink grapefruit
10-02-2021, 09:30 PM
When are the next GM elections, anyway?

Bellringer
10-02-2021, 11:15 PM
Hey guys, https://i.imgur.com/vq7pB3N.gif

chevy79bu
10-02-2021, 11:23 PM
My hat is off to anyone who would donate their time to a sgit show like being a GM on P99 or any other emulator. You all are fucking freaks. Lol the shit I have read on these forums over the years from the hard-core p99 peeps is insane. Half of you seriously probably need some sort of medication or just checked into some in patient facility. The problem is and always will be the type of people that drive the raid scene on these servers. I'm not saying ALL people who raid...I have raided over the years. But the people who lead and drive the raid scene from every single one of the guilds who compete. Your all fucking nuts. So to the OP, if you want to try and heard these cats you got my vote. But it's going to be about as easy as pushing a rope up hill.

wagorf
10-03-2021, 12:32 AM
seeking attention and power in an oldass mmorpg, really? obviously u've experienced it all during live and p99 as a player

seriously u need to move on with life, if there is one

Balimon
10-03-2021, 12:49 AM
I appreciate your passion for EQ Hyjal, but I fail to see how posting all your opinions about the raid scene in RnF is going to go well for your application...

Hyjalx
10-03-2021, 01:22 AM
Even if my history prevents me from being a GM here, I hope we can at least look at this ruleset or something similar as an alternative. This isn't something that was just thought of on a whim. This is the structural basis for how classic mechanics were played on live during this era and building it around the variance.

Weekly quakes and unrooted dragons and bags removed is ideal, but thats another story.

I'm not the only player here that's upset with the current state of the raid scene. Very few are happy about it actually. The long term damage is obvious and sentiment is at an all-time low...

I'm more interested in getting the raid scene right, then lording over anyone, just for the record. I personally don't care enough to pick sides. I have friends in all the guilds as Lord BoB opened the door for PUG raiding and multiple guilds raiding together who otherwise wouldn't.

Trexller
10-03-2021, 01:23 AM
alot of naysayers here

we've already seen the worst of the worst as GMs on blue

what else could go wrong?

Gatordash
10-03-2021, 01:43 AM
Hopefully not because a lot of those changes would mean I'd have to log back in and start playing again.

Dugface
10-03-2021, 03:12 AM
[QUOTE=Hyjalx;3370459] I have friends in all the guilds[ /QUOTE]

Who is still friends with you?

Dugface
10-03-2021, 03:16 AM
I doubt there was ever any server during classic eq where 50 people were standing at tov zone-in steps waiting for two days to run up to a dragon when it spawned.
Seek help.

remen
10-03-2021, 08:35 AM
Sounds like you have a good feel for what some of the biggest issues are in the raid scene and have good solutions. And you actually care and want to be active...got my vote

zati
10-03-2021, 12:45 PM
Raiding on p99 is quite toxic. Not the rule-set or whoever is in charge; because nothing in EQ classic is actually truly "Competitive". Nothing. It's an old 20+ yr-old MMO intended by the original developers to crawl thru a dungeon with buddies versus NPC's one-way.

On this server whoever can click a button to CoTH or has a faster connection when something spawns implies "winning"... or whichever guild has accumulated people wit incredible mental gymnastics to spin a concession.

Now if you REALLY wanted to help the server... You'd rotate ALL content and save the 15-20? hardcore raiders that play 24/7 from an addictive-nonreality-pointless life style.

Hope this helps.

Naethyn
10-03-2021, 01:38 PM
Oh no, we are actually required to go *into* the dungeon to kill dragons.

Oh no, people can't just rely on 2-3 playmakers to do everything that will eventually always leads to toxic mentalities running the show.

Oh no, we aren't subject to a one guild monopoly on all content because there is no reason to be in more than one guild.

Keep everything the way it is.

stephenc44
10-03-2021, 02:05 PM
+1

Mblake1981
10-03-2021, 03:18 PM
Now if you REALLY wanted to help the server... You'd rotate ALL content and save the 15-20? hardcore raiders that play 24/7 from an addictive-nonreality-pointless life style.


how about the 15-20 raiders leave the game, let you guys have your rotations and anyone with a set of balls between their legs forgets this place exists.

fucking crybabies.

You are what is wrong with games, the hardcore raiders are close behind you in terms of extremist behavior but at least they can play this game for what it is.

I don't like you. I don't like the games made for you. Even if i am the biggest loser of their game i would rather be there than loser town.

zati
10-03-2021, 03:36 PM
how about the 15-20 raiders leave the game, let you guys have your rotations and anyone with a set of balls between their legs forgets this place exists.

fucking crybabies.

You are what is wrong with games, the hardcore raiders are close behind you in terms of extremist behavior but at least they can play this game for what it is.

I don't like you. I don't like the games made for you. Even if i am the biggest loser of their game i would rather be there than loser town.

^
Mental Gymnastics . Hope I'm helping you see the light. Also, Chances are you don't even FTE on a race line for more than 10 hours at a time or even track at all. You are what's wrong wit the server who piggy-back behind the 15-20 hardcore raiders in guilds then turn around to spread toxicity as if there was something to be achieved.. "I'm winning cause guild got Soandso target" "It's competition I won!"

Get real... but we both can agree, you are the loser here.

Droxx
10-03-2021, 04:26 PM
Please post OBS of you splitting triplets as a resume and I'll consider.

Mblake1981
10-03-2021, 04:27 PM
I bet you use Discord don't you.

Ripqozko
10-03-2021, 04:37 PM
Please post OBS of you splitting triplets as a resume and I'll consider.

Some say he is still trying to split trips to this day.

myrddraal
10-03-2021, 06:32 PM
nah

Toxigen
10-04-2021, 10:16 AM
pixels for tits

getsome
10-04-2021, 10:26 AM
pixels for tits

That GM is gone.

Tunabros
10-04-2021, 11:10 AM
That GM is gone.

rip

Ruhtar
10-04-2021, 02:32 PM
Imagine thinking getting a GM position would give you the ability to make any of those changes or have any final say in it.

Hyjal, aren't you the dude who comes back to P99 once a year and tries to stir shit up and creates random ass alliances and public raids to screw with the raid scene, then you vanish into thin air? Assuming you're not doing this for your stupid reasons, you know you'd actually have to be around to assist as a GM, right?

Twochain
10-06-2021, 06:39 PM
Hey guys, I just wanted to bring some attention to my application. I'm applying for GM of blue to help fix the raid scene. I've been playing on blue since week 3 of the servers life, and have been a part of just about every meta during its history. I also played on live on Bristlebane as a raid leader of Club Fu from Classic to Planes of Power.

I'd like to bring Bristlebane circa 99-03 raiding to the p99 raid scene and bring the classic experience back to the project. I'm passionate about the game, and even though I am not perfect by any means and have my history here, I believe the player base would be receptive and respect my tenure. If ya support me or don't support me, post here.


Things that will occur:

1. Dragons will be unrooted in ToV

2. Bag limits removed (Velious only or all expansions)

3. All dragons in Temple of Veeshan must be killed in the wing in which they spawn except for the following:

Ikatar
Eashan


All dragons beyond Aary must be killed within North Wing. All west dragons must be killed in West Wing. Dozekar must be killed in East wing. This will simulate PC power from the 99-03 era and encourage guilds to strategically pull to new areas and metas (aary stairs, doubles, etc). On bristlebane, guilds regularly pulled Eashan and Ikatar to zone in due to their proximity to zone in, and COTH'd to doubles to pull deeper ToV targets.


4. King Tormax and Statue of Rallos Zek foot racing returned to COTH and kill meta

5. Dain Frostreaver - Only 1 tracker from each guild is permitted in the zone at time of spawn. All others must be camped at zone in. Trackers cannot be COTH mages or be involved in the pull in any form. This should allow proper time for quest turn ins.

6. Fear golems claim target by suicide removed

7. Tunare permitted to be killed with kiting meta

8. Ring War will now be rotated

9. COTH permitted to Final Arbitor in ST. Other golems must be pulled and killed. Only 1 tracker from each entity permitted in zone at time of spawn.

9. Guilds will be given a choice to work things out during raid altercations or have their fate decided. Guild wide raid bans will not occur, but decisions will be heavy handed.

10. Lists to be removed from game

Lord bob, u know what bud u have my +1. At the end of the day I know you care about the raid scene, and I like the direction of all of your suggestions however


4. King Tormax and Statue of Rallos Zek foot racing returned to COTH and kill meta

^ Coth racing was abolished by the higher ups because I believe somebody finally provided proof of how easily this could be scripted. I'm fairly certain a number of people were using these cheats over the years.

In my opinion coth racing could only come back if the mobs window was less than an hour. The biggest advantage somebody has using a script over an entire 16 window is that a program doesn't blink, go to the bathroom, or have any type of distractions. The people I am pretty convinced were using these programs didn't win 100% of the time.

Allishia
10-07-2021, 10:34 AM
Voting yes, I got kinda bored with meta too, been playing GW2 unlocking mounts instead of eq lately lol.

San'Drax
10-07-2021, 10:36 AM
Fuck off Hyjal. Go back wherever you were.

Twochain
10-07-2021, 12:55 PM
[QUOTE=Naethyn;3370622]
Oh no, people can't just rely on 2-3 playmakers to do everything that will eventually always leads to toxic mentalities running the show.


oh we're gonna just pretend like this hasn't been the case forever?

I mean AM at it's peak had like 15 of these players, but you really only need 3 great ones with high RA% to be competitive/be the top guild.

Naethyn
10-07-2021, 01:37 PM
[QUOTE=Naethyn;3370622]
Oh no, people can't just rely on 2-3 playmakers to do everything that will eventually always leads to toxic mentalities running the show.


oh we're gonna just pretend like this hasn't been the case forever?

I mean AM at it's peak had like 15 of these players, but you really only need 3 great ones with high RA% to be competitive/be the top guild.

AM died as a direct result of #rootthedragons. I’m not sure the point of your post - are you agreeing with me? Current ToV meta does not win with 2-3 playmakers.

Naethyn
10-07-2021, 01:47 PM
thats neat how the quote ended up bringing in mine instead.

Allishia
10-07-2021, 02:11 PM
thats neat how the quote ended up bringing in mine instead.

Y'all suck at quoting :p

Allishia
10-07-2021, 02:18 PM
[QUOTE=Twochain;3372065]

AM died as a direct result of #rootthedragons. I’m not sure the point of your post - are you agreeing with me? Current ToV meta does not win with 2-3 playmakers.


Am died because we lost most of our officers and leader to wow classic at the wrong time (cause we were already struggling, it finished us off quick when core was gone) /nod

But yes a few play maker people quit over rooted dragons too, Joey was like this sucks and /q when they were testing the mechanics right after the patch lol.

Allishia
10-07-2021, 02:19 PM
Now you're broken quotes ruined my quote!

Naethyn
10-07-2021, 02:34 PM
Y'all suck at quoting :p

Tunabros
10-07-2021, 03:43 PM
unroot the dragons please

it's cringe

xdrcfrx
10-07-2021, 03:57 PM
should root kael, tbh

Tunabros
10-07-2021, 06:06 PM
let's root veeshan's peak as well while we're at it

Jimjam
10-07-2021, 08:32 PM
Root Ambassador DVinn tho.

Boptop
10-07-2021, 08:51 PM
dragoon dirk is overpowered

Ennewi
10-07-2021, 08:57 PM
Root Fippy

Tunabros
10-07-2021, 09:01 PM
root every mob in the game to prevent trains imo

Trexller
10-07-2021, 10:12 PM
root every mob in the game to prevent trains imo

gotta root every player too.

can't have players roaming free at will, they might cause CSR issues.

oh also, all norrathians must now wear surgical masks in order to accept group invites, complete a quest, buy from a vendor, or participate in the game in general.

as well, there are now mandatory temperature screenings at the top of every hour for all EC tunnel rats.

Guild membership requires proof of disease resistance, minimum 500 sv.

Ennewi
10-07-2021, 10:26 PM
We need a /gucomics version of this.

Hyjalx
10-08-2021, 05:25 PM
Could probably treat Kael like my Dain suggestion, and still keep COTH if worried about scripts. Just 1 tracker in the zone, and cannot participate in the pull.

This should allow for some variability of folks trying to camp a mage + an anchor at the coth spot for KT and Statue. They'll need login from char select, get grouped, and the anchor will need to invite a puller from zone in for a live pull.

This should put more pressure on tracking and alerting the pull team, then just a script pressing 1

zati
10-08-2021, 07:07 PM
skip all that b ullshit and stop pretending coth or racing is fair in 2021 cause its a joke

spawn raid mobs in different locations like scout and sentry badain. fuck em make Ntov dragons spawn in WW or EW cause those zones r huge and adds some variables wit all those dragons wandering around. no ones really clearing tov anyhow; its just a train fest

zlandicar should spawn in rat city then path to his lair

outdoor kunark dragons should spawn randomly in their respective zones too. I'd like to see gorenaire spawn all the way near FV now that's a race. Sev near city of mist. more variables the better. better yet give these dragons sow speed or the ability to zero summon so you have to bring ur kill force to the dragon in some random spot in EJ/Dreadlands


vp should stay the same cause that's always a toss up. many things can go wrong wit trainups/adds. variables like that make it fun which other encounters don't have.

stares at screen 10hrs + straight, click one button. Competition!. llooooool

Ripqozko
10-08-2021, 07:17 PM
skip all that b ullshit and stop pretending coth or racing is fair in 2021 cause its a joke

spawn raid mobs in different locations like scout and sentry badain. fuck em make Ntov dragons spawn in WW or EW cause those zones r huge and adds some variables wit all those dragons wandering around. no ones really clearing tov anyhow; its just a train fest

zlandicar should spawn in rat city then path to his lair

outdoor kunark dragons should spawn randomly in their respective zones too. I'd like to see gorenaire spawn all the way near FV now that's a race. Sev near city of mist. more variables the better. better yet give these dragons sow speed or the ability to zero summon so you have to bring ur kill force to the dragon in some random spot in EJ/Dreadlands


vp should stay the same cause that's always a toss up. many things can go wrong wit trainups/adds. variables like that make it fun which other encounters don't have.

stares at screen 10hrs + straight, click one button. Competition!. llooooool

Or we can just rotate content 6 years after velious was won and quit pretending there's competition when velious was beat on day 1. Hope that helps.

zati
10-08-2021, 07:36 PM
Or we can just rotate content 6 years after velious was won and quit pretending there's competition when velious was beat on day 1. Hope that helps.

not gonna lie. that works too. re-work the so-called coth/race "competition" or just rotate it. games alredy been beaten, lots of things aren't classic n is catered to the community, so why stop at bag limits,badain,scout, ring8roll, and angry goblin etc?

Hyjalx
10-26-2021, 02:37 AM
so when this happenin

MaCtastic
10-26-2021, 06:12 AM
Raiding on p99 is quite toxic. Not the rule-set or whoever is in charge; because nothing in EQ classic is actually truly "Competitive". Nothing. It's an old 20+ yr-old MMO intended by the original developers to crawl thru a dungeon with buddies versus NPC's one-way.

On this server whoever can click a button to CoTH or has a faster connection when something spawns implies "winning"... or whichever guild has accumulated people wit incredible mental gymnastics to spin a concession.

Now if you REALLY wanted to help the server... You'd rotate ALL content and save the 15-20? hardcore raiders that play 24/7 from an addictive-nonreality-pointless life style.

Hope this helps.

/slowclap on

cd288
10-26-2021, 10:34 AM
Lol @ person applying to be a GM posting a laundry list of things they think the current GMs do wrong that needs to be changed. Good luck becoming a GM, much less a Guide here after this post.

This is like the new person who gets hired to your company who instantly thinks they know everything that needs to be changed and how it needs to be modified.

Skarne
10-26-2021, 12:59 PM
They already publicly told you no in the blue discord just earlier this week. They also memed @ you. I don’t think they like you very much or think your ideas are good.

Boptop
10-26-2021, 01:26 PM
Hyjal's determination to become GM is like a Rocky Montage, but if Rocky had a glass jaw and got KO'd in the first round.

Slonekb05
10-26-2021, 01:40 PM
Just have instances, and everyone can raid all they want.

Arvan
10-26-2021, 02:04 PM
EverQuest is a MUD and D&D inspired MMORPG in which groups or sometimes raids of elfs band together to defeat monsters and progress through the content together. Delusions of competition/etc. are just the result of brain damage/drugs. Thats literally it. Hope this helps.

Trexller
10-26-2021, 03:30 PM
you all just shit-talk

not a single person has attempted to debate whether or not these policies would make the raid scene better or worse.

P99 raiding is at the lowest point that any eq server has ever reached. You are all creating shut-down-the-server levels of trouble for the staff.

Seriously, How could this guy do worse than the current rulemakers? nothing they do seems to improve the raid scene here. Every single time a ruling comes down from the staff, you all find new and innovative ways to fuck up again.

Skarne
10-26-2021, 03:36 PM
you all just shit-talk

not a single person has attempted to debate whether or not these policies would make the raid scene better or worse.

P99 raiding is at the lowest point that any eq server has ever reached. You are all creating shut-down-the-server levels of trouble for the staff.

Seriously, How could this guy do worse than the current rulemakers? nothing they do seems to improve the raid scene here. Every single time a ruling comes down from the staff, you all find new and innovative ways to fuck up again.

Rofl at your signature.

Tunabros
10-26-2021, 03:52 PM
Just have instances, and everyone can raid all they want.

then everyone would get BIS in like 2 months and the server would die because there's

no progression

big brain moment

Clearmind
10-26-2021, 04:01 PM
anything beats whatever you call these GMs now

Swish
10-27-2021, 01:56 AM
then everyone would get BIS in like 2 months and the server would die because there's

no progression

big brain moment

When America sleeps there's around 300 on blue 300 on green, and probably 50 of the blue players are EC mules that didn't log out.

It's time for red2.0 to save the project, lets go <3

tycohunden
10-27-2021, 07:06 AM
Merge Green, blue and red. Raiding guilds have to be red to enter raid zones or engage raid targets. Constant blood shed will cause the Samurai of light to ascend while the psychopaths with wormfilled bellies to bleed out.
There will either be respect or death.
Kalki will be born and with him, the great chastizer, peace will reign.
Those who want to live as slaves are allowed to do so having their names blue and unremembered.