View Full Version : Would you like Green to merge with Blue at some point?
Izmael
08-06-2021, 07:37 AM
The question is what you would LIKE, not what you think will or will not happen. What would be your personal preference.
drackgon
08-06-2021, 08:08 AM
Yes, move green to blue. And start over like It was designed to do. Peeps need 2 stop hoping its not happening.
sajbert
08-06-2021, 10:27 AM
Considering how blue economy is trash. I'd rather that Green be standalone.
Baler
08-06-2021, 10:58 AM
Yes, Merge Green into Blue, 6 months after the last green patch.
Then start a fresh green server.
Honestly this is the best possible case for P99 life span.
Baler
08-06-2021, 10:59 AM
Considering how blue economy is trash. I'd rather that Green be standalone.
green economy will be trash if it doesn't merge and restart.
eqravenprince
08-06-2021, 11:49 AM
Just want Green 2.0, classic is best!
RevSaber
08-06-2021, 01:06 PM
U should merge green into red
Rader
08-06-2021, 01:20 PM
green economy will be trash if it doesn't merge and restart.
Green economy would eventually approach Blue's trash level, yes. But how does that make one want to accelerate the process and push it into Blue's crappy economy?
I hope that Blue would eventually get some custom content, and Green remains separate as the graveyard for all the restarts once they complete the timeline.
BlackBellamy
08-06-2021, 01:20 PM
My personal preference is for both servers to be wiped on January 2023, 18 months after Velious launch on Green.
Sorry...all three servers. Apologies Red people, I know you exist.
Gustoo
08-06-2021, 01:23 PM
Definitely yes. No reason to have 2 parralel servers stuck at same point in timeline.
Jibartik
08-06-2021, 01:33 PM
Your choice is delete all the pixels on green or move them to blue, what is your choice?
BlackBellamy
08-06-2021, 02:04 PM
Your choice is delete all the pixels on green or move them to blue, what is your choice?
If that is my binary choice I choose delete. I don't want my history now mingled with people who have their own stories for the past 12 years.
loramin
08-06-2021, 03:35 PM
If that is my binary choice I choose delete. I don't want my history now mingled with people who have their own stories for the past 12 years.
I don't understand how never being able to play your character again is in any way better than being able to play them forever (but their "story is mingled"). :confused:
Jibartik
08-06-2021, 03:37 PM
haha yeah we must maintain the legitimacy of my 15 year old classic server lmao
Years of exploits and cheaters, literally years of it! It's legitimacy must be maintained!
:o
Imposter
08-06-2021, 03:53 PM
over 75% of the player names would be duped if u combined servers. what a dumb idea.
Baler
08-06-2021, 03:53 PM
I don't understand
you dont seem to understand much anymore.
in hind sight (*for you) I will always be here, watching. Even when you've finally realized you've been lied to and nothing was gained.
Baler is watching.
Jibartik
08-06-2021, 04:29 PM
over 75% of the player names would be duped if u combined servers. what a dumb idea.
https://www.everquest.com/news/eq-selo-to-povar-server-merge
https://i.imgur.com/iU25Fbp.png
Naming Conflicts
If, as a result of the server merge, two or more characters have the same name, the conflict will be resolved as follows:
The player who has logged into game within 60 days before the merge will retain the original character name. If there is still a conflict, the character with the highest number of minutes played will retain the original character name.
The renamed character will have additional vowels (or 'x') added to the end of their name and be flagged for a free rename. Characters who have been renamed can open the rename window to pick a new name with /changename chat command.
BlackBellamy
08-06-2021, 05:01 PM
I don't understand how never being able to play your character again is in any way better than being able to play them forever (but their "story is mingled"). :confused:
I don't plan on merging. My characters will retire if that happens and never play again. I did not choose Green to experience the progression, I chose it as my home. When it disappears so will I. I don't expect eqemu to hold my interest forever anyway, there are always new pastimes and hobbies.
Baler
08-06-2021, 05:03 PM
I don't plan on merging. My characters will retire if that happens and never play again.
Yeah that's what a museum is dude. :p
Nilbogs own words,. Blue is a museum.
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Edit: and to anyone who voted No, Enjoy having a fucked up economy that's just as tainted as blue's you funasses.
There is a reason for seasson/leauge/ladder resets, primarily a fresh economy. Stop living in lala land and accept your progress will be void in next year.
Gustoo
08-06-2021, 05:11 PM
I'm seeing scary psychosis that I didn't expect here.
Green is your home?
When its 10 years dead and gone you're going to have two museum dead ass servers and you think some reason your pixels are going to be fucked sideways if they integrate with blue?
I'd merge them this second just to lay this shit to rest, everyone should be thankful that Staff is inhumanly patient with the mad crazy box stuff that goes on here.
cd288
08-06-2021, 05:12 PM
green economy will be trash if it doesn't merge and restart.
This. We’ve got about a year and a half till the merge could happen. At that point greens economy will be very mudflated as well. People seem to forget how quickly the economies go to shit because people are nonstop farming plat and valuable loot.
loramin
08-06-2021, 05:25 PM
I don't plan on merging. My characters will retire if that happens and never play again. I did not choose Green to experience the progression, I chose it as my home. When it disappears so will I. I don't expect eqemu to hold my interest forever anyway, there are always new pastimes and hobbies.
You didn't directly answer my question, but it sounds like you're saying it's better to not have a playable than have a playable character ... because it will force you to do something else with your life (besides play EQ)? Honestly, it's hard to argue with that logic :)
So to recap, IF your goal (like Bellamy's) is to quit the game forevermore in a year-ish ... not merging Green into Blue is in your best interest. For everyone else, it seems the merger is in their best interest.
Baler
08-06-2021, 05:28 PM
In a more honest and respectful tone.
Green launch was such a great period of time for P99, Especially for the wiki. Which is one of the best sources of era accurate information about everquest classic eras on the internet.
I am in the full belief that a new round of fresh classic - velious p99 servers can only improve upon that knowledge. Then in turn benefit everybody, not only p99..
Then for those less caring about preserved information, all the bug fixes from green will be pushed through to a new green. It will be a more accurate representation of what we all loved back in the day. (the gameplay.)
Aeaolena
08-06-2021, 05:30 PM
Please just give me like 1-2 more years to hang with friends and experience content as a casual before considering a merge into Blue.
Last time 'jokes' went out about Teal merging into Green, it happened like the week after.
cd288
08-06-2021, 05:33 PM
Please just give me like 1-2 more years to hang with friends and experience content as a casual before considering a merge into Blue.
Last time 'jokes' went out about Teal merging into Green, it happened like the week after.
I mean idk why anyone thought Teal was going to be a long term thing. The staff said they were just doing it for a short period of time to allow the lower level zones to thin out in pop and then they were gonna merge it back. It was very clearly going to be very short lived
Aeaolena
08-06-2021, 05:39 PM
One of the nice things on Teal was the attitude of people who transferred over there seemed largely different. More casual-heavy, and more chill.
It seemed those who wanted to start new and be hardcore, aimed to join Seal Team and stayed on Green with that goal.
"The economy, the economy!" is always pointed to when it comes to servers - but after playing on Blue for years and years, the attitudes Teal had as an unintended social experiment side-effect was great. Felt way less toxic.
I don't know if this would/could ever be re-created again in some way. Just saying it was nice.
loramin
08-06-2021, 05:44 PM
One of the nice things on Teal was the attitude of people who transferred over there seemed largely different. More casual-heavy, and more chill.
It seemed those who wanted to start new and be hardcore, aimed to join Seal Team and stayed on Green with that goal.
"The economy, the economy!" is always pointed to when it comes to servers - but after playing on Blue for years and years, the attitudes Teal had as an unintended social experiment side-effect was great. Felt way less toxic.
I don't know if this would/could ever be re-created again in some way. Just saying it was nice.
Amen!
The devs didn't mean to do this, but they inadvertently made a server for people who care about things like server fists, and a separate server for people who just wanted to casually enjoy the game ... and for the briefest moment it was amazing!
It was one of the most fun times I've ever had in P99 (quite possibly THE most), out of the nearly decade-long period I've been playing here. Unfortunately however it will likely never happen again.
Baler
08-06-2021, 05:50 PM
The devs didn't mean to do this
Let's not kid ourselves Loramin,
The years of blue and red prepared the devs for the worst.
They knew what they were heading into.
Edit: and thanks to the daybreak agreement we no longer have NSFW P99. :)
This shit aint magic bro, they've had years to perfect the recipe, wake up.
Aeaolena
08-06-2021, 05:53 PM
Amen!
The devs didn't mean to do this, but they inadvertently made a server for people who care about things like server fists, and a separate server for people who just wanted to casually enjoy the game ... and for the briefest moment it was amazing!
It was one of the most fun times I've ever had in P99 (quite possibly THE most), out of the nearly decade-long period I've been playing here. Unfortunately however it will likely never happen again.
I know Loramin =(, It was a lot of fun for me too.
My knee-jerk brainstorm pulled out of midair was to create two new servers. One that has some sort of carrot for hardcore folks (boss spawns that are twice as fast? Higher % on BIS drops?) and see if the same stratification happens when folks are given a choice of which to merge into. But since only one would be classic I don't think that would fly. Just a weak idea dead in the water.
fortior
08-06-2021, 06:14 PM
Classic EQ's economy is designed to endure 2 years before becoming completely mudflated
Vivitron
08-06-2021, 06:32 PM
I'm more concerned with server population / activity than with preserving separation between blue and green communities and economies, and I think a merge will eventually be beneficial for that.
That said, activity is a weird thing on these old servers, with some content getting crowded and the rest ignored.
Ravager
08-06-2021, 09:22 PM
I want Green to merge with http://lotgd.org/home.php?. It's the logical progression.
Rader
08-06-2021, 10:33 PM
I'm more concerned with server population / activity than with preserving separation between blue and green communities and economies, and I think a merge will eventually be beneficial for that.
That said, activity is a weird thing on these old servers, with some content getting crowded and the rest ignored.
I get the server population idea in theory but really, can you get a PUG on either Blue or Green these days? I am not buying it that any harm is done by splitting the population three ways versus only two
I like the split idea, 1) for the economy, Green sucks but not like Blue, wait to merge in three or four years. Unless my second point happens, namely;
2) Add classic-inspired custom content to Blue, and keep a Green graveyard server for those that don't want to be in a non Classic server. One time non-reversable transfers from Green to Blue (or vice versa) based on if you want custom content or not
I agree that if there is not going to be any custom content added, ever, go ahead and merge Green and Blue once the Green timeline is done, not into wasting Rogean's time and effort and money into having an extra server just because of economy issues.
Solist
08-06-2021, 10:59 PM
Wipe both.
Launch green again at classic.
Launch blue again at current timeline, final pre luclin patch, all content in game. Pre awaken sleeper.
zelld52
08-06-2021, 11:21 PM
My friend has a full account on both Blue and Green. Same acct with max toons each. Will he have to Sophie's choice these toons?
Videri
08-07-2021, 01:45 AM
My friend has a full account on both Blue and Green. Same acct with max toons each. Will he have to Sophie's choice these toons?
As far as we know, all 16 characters will be on one Character Select screen, in alphabetical order. The latter 8 will be pushed down and not selectable. You can delete other characters to raise them up.
For anyone else playing on both servers, make new characters on new loginserver accounts. Go to the Home button and take a look at the left menu bar.
YendorLootmonkey
08-07-2021, 06:26 PM
Next server launch, launch two servers again... Purple and Mauve. One for current "competitive" raiding, and one where content is rotated. You know, just to see which server is more popular.
Ooloo
08-07-2021, 06:32 PM
No do not split the population again. Competitive raiding is classic, guilds working out rotations amongst themselves is also classic. Both things can happen on the same server, it's supposed to be a social game. Don't be a sociopath and maybe it can happen
Solist
08-07-2021, 09:03 PM
Next server launch, launch two servers again... Purple and Mauve. One for current "competitive" raiding, and one where content is rotated. You know, just to see which server is more popular.
The question has NEVER been 'whats more popular'.
P99 is the only server with competitive PVE (IE, not cheese) raiding on all of EQEMU. Everything else is rotated.
If you want rotated content in the endgame, there is a multitude of extremely well polished options to pick from, TAKP is absolutely sensational level of fit and finish.
Why people don't understand if they want warder loot, they can go to TAKP and kill hill giants for a week and buy it in the bazaar. If they want aten ha ra neck, just join a raid guild and sit in line. The whole server is filled with people who would prefer that than raid competitively here, different strokes for different folks.
HalflingSpergand
08-07-2021, 09:08 PM
I want green to turn into a pumpkin at midnight
tadkins
08-07-2021, 09:17 PM
The question has NEVER been 'whats more popular'.
P99 is the only server with competitive PVE (IE, not cheese) raiding on all of EQEMU. Everything else is rotated.
If you want rotated content in the endgame, there is a multitude of extremely well polished options to pick from, TAKP is absolutely sensational level of fit and finish.
Why people don't understand if they want warder loot, they can go to TAKP and kill hill giants for a week and buy it in the bazaar. If they want aten ha ra neck, just join a raid guild and sit in line. The whole server is filled with people who would prefer that than raid competitively here, different strokes for different folks.
TAKP also allows boxing and has a far lower population. The environment is much different.
As much as I would wish it to happen, and as unlikely I know it is to happen, I do wish this server didn't have to be so cutthroat and competitive. I never got to see any raids back in the day, and it's still a goal of mine to one day see those raid zones here, but as it stands with all of the drama and competition, and all the folks railing against even the slightest bit of cooperation and accessibility, I worry that it will never happen.
Aeaolena
08-07-2021, 09:17 PM
Next server launch, launch two servers again... Purple and Mauve. One for current "competitive" raiding, and one where content is rotated. You know, just to see which server is more popular.
I like this idea. It would be more classic to those who had servers that the GM's headed rotations on. I remember rotations being a thing on The Tribunal.
Even if it was 3/4 weeks rotated and 1 week competitive, it would be a a mostly "hands off" server that the GM's wouldn't have to deal with drama on.
tadkins
08-07-2021, 09:18 PM
Next server launch, launch two servers again... Purple and Mauve. One for current "competitive" raiding, and one where content is rotated. You know, just to see which server is more popular.
I like this idea. It would be more classic to those who had servers that the GM's headed rotations on. I remember rotations being a thing on The Tribunal.
Even if it was 3/4 weeks rotated and 1 week competitive, it would be a a mostly "hands off" server that the GM's wouldn't have to deal with drama on.
For what it's worth I would love this.
Stonewallx39
08-07-2021, 09:56 PM
I don’t really care super long term, but I don’t want to lose custom UIs, pet window, and tab target on blue.
Rader
08-07-2021, 10:34 PM
No do not split the population again. Competitive raiding is classic, guilds working out rotations amongst themselves is also classic. Both things can happen on the same server, it's supposed to be a social game. Don't be a sociopath and maybe it can happen
I worry about you. The raid scene in Classic inhales and has proven to be that way on both Blue and Green. Lawyerquesting is not a skill to be proud of.
YendorLootmonkey
08-08-2021, 02:00 AM
The question has NEVER been 'whats more popular'.
P99 is the only server with competitive PVE (IE, not cheese) raiding on all of EQEMU. Everything else is rotated.
If you want rotated content in the endgame, there is a multitude of extremely well polished options to pick from, TAKP is absolutely sensational level of fit and finish.
Why people don't understand if they want warder loot, they can go to TAKP and kill hill giants for a week and buy it in the bazaar. If they want aten ha ra neck, just join a raid guild and sit in line. The whole server is filled with people who would prefer that than raid competitively here, different strokes for different folks.
Ah, the ol' "these are our servers... if you don't like them, go play somewhere else" mantra. We WOULD be playing somewhere else. You would get the hypothetical Purple hard-core server, we get the Mauve casual-friendly server. You enjoy what you enjoy, we enjoy what we enjoy. Certainly, those of us playing on a hypothetical rotation server wouldn't impact your ability to knock yourselves out raiding competitively on your hypothetical server.
The only three ways it would:
1) You wouldn't have anyone to show off your pixels to.
2) You actually don't want to compete against an entire server of like-minded players
3) Your server would have a max population of 150.
The fact that you are trying to quell the mere idea tells me all I need to know about why the 150ish hard-core "competitive" players don't want to end up on a server all by themselves, with other hard-core "competitive" players, wearing yourselves out on lawyerquest and poopsocking while the other 850 of us (probably more... players that were chased off by the current raid scene might come back) are working together and sharing, along with zero raid petitions for the GMs to handle. GMs might enjoy it so much, whoever picked the short straw and had to GM for your competitive server may just turn on PVP after the first raid petition and let you truly experience the competition you supposedly crave.
All I'm saying is... some Live servers had competitive raiding and some servers had GM-enforced rotated content. You can't set up a museum for one experience and not the other. In fact, so many people might actually enjoy a less toxic raiding endgame where they can experience VP, ST, NTOV, etc. without one or two guilds making a full-time job out of denying pixels to others, that donations for server maintenance increase significantly.
But, we'll never know... because people like you not only want to monopolize content on Blue and Green, but are instantly up in arms at the mere notion of a hypothetical next server where casual players who don't want to make a video game into a full-time job can actually enjoy raiding and being able to plan around real-life commitments instead of being forced to sit within 5 feet of their computer at the login screen watching someone stream a spawnpoint on Discord.
Thanks for letting us know you want to deny us all future pixels as well. This is so important to hard-core competitive players, we both know full well their first strategy would be to sociopathically flood the rotation server with so many guilds and alt guilds that everything becomes a 46-week rotation to ensure the server fails.
loramin
08-08-2021, 11:56 AM
The fact that you are trying to quell the mere idea tells me all I need to know about why the 150ish hard-core "competitive" players don't want to end up on a server all by themselves, with other hard-core "competitive" players, wearing yourselves out on lawyerquest and poopsocking while the other 850 of us (probably more... players that were chased off by the current raid scene might come back) are working together and sharing, along with zero raid petitions for the GMs to handle.
QFT
Imagine a server that followed the actual classic CSR model and required players to share content instead of the combination of "camp" rules (never any such thing back in the day) and the unhealthy fiasco known as /list. Imagine the rage of dedicated sockers at only being allowed to kill one named spawn out of 2 (or 3 or 20 or whatever) at a popular camp "sorry you got the moonstone ring guys, better luck next time, it's group three's turn now". I would be so very sad for them. That alone might be enough to keep most of the sociopaths away.
Rivewin
08-09-2021, 09:54 AM
Haven’t played in about a year. Played quite a bit at launch of classic. Always love classic servers and kunark. Myself and I know at least several others personally who just won’t play at current timeline. We just sit around and wait for another new server to launch which we will likely play 12-18 months and quit again. I do think there are a lot
Of people out there to also do this. It’s basically why TLP servers are so popular. It maintains interest and population for the game.
Anyway I voted yes as that was my original understanding of what green was to begin with and myself and several freirnds are ready to begin again
cd288
08-09-2021, 12:30 PM
Haven’t played in about a year. Played quite a bit at launch of classic. Always love classic servers and kunark. Myself and I know at least several others personally who just won’t play at current timeline. We just sit around and wait for another new server to launch which we will likely play 12-18 months and quit again. I do think there are a lot
Of people out there to also do this. It’s basically why TLP servers are so popular. It maintains interest and population for the game.
Anyway I voted yes as that was my original understanding of what green was to begin with and myself and several freirnds are ready to begin again
I've been playing mostly on Blue at the moment. I have less motivation to play on Green now that they are at the same stage of progression expansion-wise.
Twochain
08-09-2021, 12:39 PM
The economy on Blue isn't that bad people. I look at auctions from both servers all the time - there isn't a huge price difference on things that cost more than 5-10k+
Yes, mid tier gear is WAY cheaper on blue than green... but that's what happens after 10 years.
Your beads will at least triple in value though. Same with manastones, etc. You could farm one pair of beads on green, wait for the transfer, and FULLY twink two characters with that platinum.
Also there will actually be competition on end game mobs. It will be a lot of fun.
BlackBellamy
08-09-2021, 04:46 PM
You didn't directly answer my question, but it sounds like you're saying it's better to not have a playable than have a playable character ... because it will force you to do something else with your life (besides play EQ)? Honestly, it's hard to argue with that logic :)
So to recap, IF your goal (like Bellamy's) is to quit the game forevermore in a year-ish ... not merging Green into Blue is in your best interest. For everyone else, it seems the merger is in their best interest.
No you misunderstood. It's not a goal. It's an outcome. I have no idea how long p99 will hold my interest, but a merge will lessen it to the point where I'll go pick up another hobby. There is no forcing to quit involved, I just really need to enjoy my pastimes. For example I was a competition-level paintballer for years and then one day....you know...I bought a motorcycle.
Like my paintball gun is still playable functionally. I could buy another bike. But that was decades ago.
This would be a goal:
https://i.imgur.com/0g0N5hQ.jpg
Keeping your self respect up!
Seducio
08-09-2021, 06:05 PM
Devs here on p99 will go the route that makes the most sense for them and players won't get much say. They don't owe us anything.
The vague messaging as to what will eventually happen to green at end of timeline leaves a degree of mystery that is by design.
Most likely the devs don't yet know themselves. It's easy to not reveal the answer to a question if that answer is still undecided. When the time is right the decision will be made in relation to how this all fits in to the devs lives. Not ours.
Man0warr
08-09-2021, 06:40 PM
The main reason not to merge Green into Blue is because Blue has mechanics that aren't Classic but they didn't want to remove them after so many years (or they did remove them and people complained).
If Green is supposed to be the closer to Classic experience, dumping it into a server with Pet Windows and other Luclin era changes doesn't make much sense.
loramin
08-09-2021, 07:03 PM
The main reason not to merge Green into Blue is because Blue has mechanics that aren't Classic but they didn't want to remove them after so many years (or they did remove them and people complained).
If Green is supposed to be the closer to Classic experience, dumping it into a server with Pet Windows and other Luclin era changes doesn't make much sense.
But the whole reason they decided to allow them is that they were almost classic: both pet windows and custom UI were added just after Luclin's release.
To me keeping one entire extra server just so that it can say one month behind another server seems ... unnecessary.
tadkins
08-09-2021, 07:06 PM
Green should merge and reset, just like it was originally meant to. I plan on starting up a cleric on the new green when that happens, when we are all back at the bottom and there are folks to level with again.
Only blue player want server to merge, like merging them with save blue but blue is dead.
No real green player want a merge, only bluebies that went on green to farm legacy.
Toxigen
08-10-2021, 01:30 PM
Only blue player want server to merge, like merging them with save blue but blue is dead.
No real green player want a merge, only bluebies that went on green to farm legacy.
blue's pop is almost always just slightly under green
filed under mad that green wasnt the big success you hoped for
enjoy your /list lmao
fortior
08-10-2021, 01:54 PM
when green resets I will be there, on green 2.0, leveling a new character all the way up again in a new world full of excited players who cheer and holler for Cracked Staff drops, the first FBSS, etc. it will be so much fucking fun again to play this game with a bunch of people. the only thing I will miss is the ability to roll an iksar at the start, my favorite race. However, bards get an iksar mask, so I'll just do that
cd288
08-10-2021, 05:54 PM
But the whole reason they decided to allow them is that they were almost classic: both pet windows and custom UI were added just after Luclin's release.
To me keeping one entire extra server just so that it can say one month behind another server seems ... unnecessary.
Also, Green isn't supposed to be a perpetual server so his argument that it shouldn't merge with a server with non-classic mechanics makes no sense.
Green is supposed to be a recycled classic server. It doesn't matter if it merges into Blue because they will do a new Green with classic mechanics.
Swish
08-10-2021, 07:40 PM
Only blue player want server to merge, like merging them with save blue but blue is dead.
No real green player want a merge, only bluebies that went on green to farm legacy.
Why would a new player start on green though? Blue items are cheaper and it's the same expansion. Don't think anyone new to green has much of a shot at "warder loot" at this point :o
cd288
08-10-2021, 10:54 PM
Only blue player want server to merge, like merging them with save blue but blue is dead.
No real green player want a merge, only bluebies that went on green to farm legacy.
This is incorrect. Tonight blue and green were basically the same population in terms of numbers. I recently started playing on Blue again after playing on Green since launch and I can say the current experience on Blue is about the same as Green minus some differences in economy. Both are now too heavy, few lower level leveling groups are available, etc
JDFriend99
08-10-2021, 11:45 PM
Explain exactly how this merger would occur? Given we have accounts with 8 toons on ea account, and blue is full of toons and green is full of toons?
Now we what? make 16 slots avail? rename accounts? rename all toons with E at end of them??
Anyone else ever see the inability to do this or is it just me and my vastly superior 120 iq?
cd288
08-10-2021, 11:49 PM
Explain exactly how this merger would occur? Given we have accounts with 8 toons on ea account, and blue is full of toons and green is full of toons?
Now we what? make 16 slots avail? rename accounts? rename all toons with E at end of them??
Anyone else ever see the inability to do this or is it just me and my vastly superior 120 iq?
They already said that when the merge happens if there are duplicative names one will get an X added to the end.
They also said that if you play on green on the same account, when it merges to blue you’ll only be able to see the first 8 characters at the char select window and would need to delete some to see the extra ones. That’s why people were advised either not to play on green on the same account or not to make more characters on green than they had open slots on the account on blue. Your fault if you didn’t listen.
Ravager
08-10-2021, 11:59 PM
When worlds merge, evil counterparts emerge.
unsunghero
08-11-2021, 03:53 PM
I actually like the lack of quality of life challenge of green
I like the fact that my class, enchanter, is more uncommon on green than blue due to no tab target cycling. The workaround I have found is using creative camera work and the /tar command to quickly target mobs that are standing inside each other’s bodies. Most players I imagine didn’t want to deal with that on green and either rolled on blue or else didn’t roll a class that requires tab target cycling to cc for their group
But it would be nice to have cheaper prices for everything, so I guess I’m torn
Baler
08-11-2021, 04:05 PM
I actually like the lack of quality of life challenge of green
You're missinformed,. The only changes have been anti-QoL. non-classic changes,.
such as wort pots.
Plus other clickie changes that are Not classic like wooly nets
Aswell as pre-nerfed gnoll fang exp for the entire lifespan of Green.
Now hear me out, I undstand you said "lack" but your ignoring the fact they're making not classic changes which entirely change the game.
unsunghero
08-11-2021, 04:41 PM
You're missinformed,. The only changes have been anti-QoL. non-classic changes,.
such as wort pots.
Plus other clickie changes that are Not classic like wooly nets
Aswell as pre-nerfed gnoll fang exp for the entire lifespan of Green.
Now hear me out, I undstand you said "lack" but your ignoring the fact they're making not classic changes which entirely change the game.
Other differences:
Blue allows custom UI’s, green does not
Blue has a pet window, green does not
Blue allows tab target cycling. The button can still be bound to a hotkey in the options menu, but no matter what you hotkey it to, it does not work on green. Using tab to target the nearest mob still works, just not cycling to the next closest and next, and so forth
That’s just off the top of my head tho
Baler
08-11-2021, 05:01 PM
Other differences:
Blue allows custom UI’s, green does not
Blue has a pet window, green does not
Blue allows tab target cycling. The button can still be bound to a hotkey in the options menu, but no matter what you hotkey it to, it does not work on green. Using tab to target the nearest mob still works, just not cycling to the next closest and next, and so forth
That’s just off the top of my head tho
Blue however was allowed to be customized as per the rog/bog messages.
sorry, not sorry.
Try again with more thought.
tadkins
08-11-2021, 05:38 PM
Why would a new player start on green though? Blue items are cheaper and it's the same expansion. Don't think anyone new to green has much of a shot at "warder loot" at this point :o
I fully admit that I've been tempted to move to Blue. I don't really have a lot going on Green at the moment aside from the money I've managed to farm and the box of abu-kar that I have here. Don't really have any friends or connections so being able to take part in "the great race" is pretty much out of reach. At this point I guess I'm just kind of waiting on Green 2.0.
unsunghero
08-11-2021, 07:21 PM
Blue however was allowed to be customized as per the rog/bog messages.
sorry, not sorry.
Try again with more thought.
No idea what the hell you are talking about. You act like I am supposed to have some deep understanding of these servers’ histories. My single char on green is level 41. That’s my only p99 char. What’s your chars levels again? How much of your life have you dumped into p99?
Tilien
08-12-2021, 12:26 AM
No idea what the hell you are talking about. You act like I am supposed to have some deep understanding of these servers’ histories. My single char on green is level 41. That’s my only p99 char. What’s your chars levels again? How much of your life have you dumped into p99?
Did you just join in 2015 and wait half a decade to make your first character?
cd288
08-12-2021, 12:38 AM
Did you just join in 2015 and wait half a decade to make your first character?
Sounds like he forgot he was posting from a different account lmao
Bardp1999
08-12-2021, 12:47 AM
I would have said no but Greens population is going to utter shit and I need people to level with since I have no interest raiding ToV into infinity
MaCtastic
08-12-2021, 06:28 AM
over 75% of the player names would be duped if u combined servers. what a dumb idea.
Same accounts, no issue. The name isn’t even the problem, it’s not a constraint in the DB schema, it’s only checked on creation. I’m sure Rogbog were able to test and validate their merge and rename procedure before we even knew greens launch date.
The core of the source for P99 is (likely) based on EQEmu.
https://github.com/EQEmu/Server
unsunghero
08-12-2021, 01:57 PM
Did you just join in 2015 and wait half a decade to make your first character?
Lol yes. I couldn’t figure out how to install in 2015 so I gave up for 5 years
And I should be higher than 41 considering I’ve been playing since last year but I slowed down the exp to farm up ~10k pp (plus getting pre-raid bis in every slot which is another 3-4k ish for my class) which seems like a good amount for my lev. Not in a rush to get to max lev
Swish
08-12-2021, 05:37 PM
Lol yes. I couldn’t figure out how to install in 2015 so I gave up for 5 years
Makes you wonder how many potential players we've lost over the years because of the install being such a pain to do.
Graahle
08-12-2021, 05:59 PM
Zero point rolling Green this late in the progression. It's already unclassic enough, why not just roll Blue and enjoy pet window, visible DoT damage, cheaper market, custom UIs, etc. You won't be getting overrated (minus 1-2 items) warder loot anyways.
Nilstoniakrath
08-12-2021, 10:28 PM
Makes you wonder how many potential players we've lost over the years because of the install being such a pain to do.
Been here since 2013, but delayed my start on p99 by a couple of years because I didnt want to risk my access to other EQEmu servers by downloading the custom files...
Looking back that was a foolish move, creating a separate folder is a pretty basic task
Piemur
08-19-2021, 12:01 PM
I like this idea. It would be more classic to those who had servers that the GM's headed rotations on. I remember rotations being a thing on The Tribunal.
Even if it was 3/4 weeks rotated and 1 week competitive, it would be a a mostly "hands off" server that the GM's wouldn't have to deal with drama on.
Fellow Tribunal player here! I was a member of the Nobility of Norrath, great to see another old server mate!
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