Come back from Velious

[zelld52]

Hey,

Remember the XP weekend before Velious release? I do. It was great. There were groups in all the mid-level zones. Everyone logged their alts to level.

In doing so, I got a chance to also level my newest character. It was wonderful. So many rogue alts, warrior twinks.. I got my ShadowKnight from 39-43 in no problem!

But then Velious came out... and everyone went back to farming Phat Lewts on their mains. And the mid-range dungeons cleared out.

Just yesterday, I was in a group in Unrest on one of my alts. The group was 2 Paladins + 2 druids. The mobs were actually regenning HP while we were fighting.

So come back. Log that alt. Phats can wait.

[Arvan]

Green is a legacy item farm box for blue players hope this helps

[Swish]

Why? Timeline says it's dead in a year or less.

[sajbert]

Why? Timeline says it's dead in a year or less.

Timeline doesn't say anything. The server may roll onto blue, it may not. Most people here are working under the assumption that there will be another fresh server in 1-2 years time.

It's possible green will be around for several more years to come. In some ways it makes sense for Green to establish a solid playerbase if it's not to roll onto Blue or it may turn ghosttown as a new fresh server arrives.

It's also possible devs can't be arsed to run another fresh server. Been there done that-type of deal.

[drackgon]

Just saying, Devs have said everything will happen on X. And so far they havn't lied to us. So clearly their OG post about green clearly states goal is to merge into blue 6 months after last patch of velious. Early as Jan 2023. And start with next green server.

[drackgon]

At most they were like 1 month off Ie like hate release imo still came a month early. But thats due to their post about tryin to get everything at beginning of month. Originally hate was released after Halloween on live. But no real evidence many pointed to week of halloween. So they released hate first week of oct on p99.

So imo Green will merge into blue sometime after jan 2023 like their post says. So stop lying to yourselves.
"Green Lifetime
The green server will, at a time yet to be decided, eventually merge into blue and start over again. This merge will not happen until at least 6 months after the last patch in velious (No earlier than January 2023)." straight from https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=333743 of introducing project green by Nilbog

[zelld52]

but i dont waaaannna play on blue =(

Green 5 life

[sajbert]

Just saying, Devs have said everything will happen on X. And so far they havn't lied to us. So clearly their OG post about green clearly states goal is to merge into blue 6 months after last patch of velious. Early as Jan 2023. And start with next green server.

They've already said that the initial idea to merge green with blue is no longer something definite and is up for consideration.

[loramin]

but i dont waaaannna play on blue =(

Green 5 life

That's ok, because when it merges they'll start another Green :D And not only will it not have Velious ... it won't even have Kunark!

[cd288]

They've already said that the initial idea to merge green with blue is no longer something definite and is up for consideration.

Aren’t you the one who is trying to convince yourself that everything you’re doing on green won’t get merged into blue at some point?

Hate to break it to you but the pop can barely support two servers much less three pve servers and the staff aren’t paying for keeping extra servers open just so you don’t have to have your characters merged with blue lol

[sajbert]

Aren’t you the one who is trying to convince yourself that everything you’re doing on green won’t get merged into blue at some point?

Hate to break it to you but the pop can barely support two servers much less three pve servers and the staff aren’t paying for keeping extra servers open just so you don’t have to have your characters merged with blue lol

No, I'm simply telling you what I know.

I agree with you that current Green would risk being a ghost town with a Green 2.0 with a non-fresh playerbase being split between Blue AND the old Green.

That however doesn't mean that they will roll Green onto Blue. There are a large number of possibilities. Some examples,

1) Purge blue, seems unlikely.
2) Purge Green, seems unlikely.
3) Leave Green as a ghost town until the Green 2.0 gets rolled onto the old Green in a few years time.
4) Wait a few years before releasing Green 2.0
5) Never release Green 2.0
6) Release a fresh PvP server

[boukk]

at least[/B] 6 months after the last patch in velious (No earlier than January 2023)." straight from https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=333743 of introducing project green by Nilbog

At least.
Means anything from 6months to never.

[PatChapp]

Unrest was pretty busy yesterday, 30 or so people
We had a full group in basement and there was several others

[cd288]

No, I'm simply telling you what I know.

I agree with you that current Green would risk being a ghost town with a Green 2.0 with a non-fresh playerbase being split between Blue AND the old Green.

That however doesn't mean that they will roll Green onto Blue. There are a large number of possibilities. Some examples,

1) Purge blue, seems unlikely.
2) Purge Green, seems unlikely.
3) Leave Green as a ghost town until the Green 2.0 gets rolled onto the old Green in a few years time.
4) Wait a few years before releasing Green 2.0
5) Never release Green 2.0
6) Release a fresh PvP server

Are you gonna pay to keep multiple green servers open? Didn’t think so. Neither are the staff who pay for this out of their own pocket.

People are upset about the idea of a merge because it renders what they did on green meaningless. But that’s the fact of progression servers. Everything you do on them is essentially meaningless because there will always be a new server that everyone switches to. There’s no point to keeping green as a ghost town while opening another green; you merge it with blue because no one is playing on it anyway and the volunteer staff don’t have to pay just to satisfy your crying about your green characters.

[sajbert]

Are you gonna pay to keep multiple green servers open? Didn’t think so. Neither are the staff who pay for this out of their own pocket.

People are upset about the idea of a merge because it renders what they did on green meaningless. But that’s the fact of progression servers. Everything you do on them is essentially meaningless because there will always be a new server that everyone switches to. There’s no point to keeping green as a ghost town while opening another green; you merge it with blue because no one is playing on it anyway and the volunteer staff don’t have to pay just to satisfy your crying about your green characters.

More servers do not have to come at extra cost. Also, I’d pay my bit np btw. The extra work would likely be minimal if it indeed were a ”dead” server after Fresh 2.0.

Also, I’m clearly not the one emptionally invested here. You got some manastones to flip or what?

[cd288]

More servers do not have to come at extra cost. Also, I’d pay my bit np btw. The extra work would likely be minimal if it indeed were a ”dead” server after Fresh 2.0.

Also, I’m clearly not the one emptionally invested here. You got some manastones to flip or what?

Lol wait the guy who doesn’t want them to merge because he doesn’t like blues economy is asking if I have manastones to flip? Sounds like you’re the one with legacy items you’re trying to sell, and you know it’s bad for you if they merge into another server because that only means more in circulation.

Also, yes more servers does come at extra cost. You think the server host is just gonna be like oh yeah sure open up for servers I won’t charge you at all! Lol what

[loramin]

More servers do not have to come at extra cost.

That's quite a claim to make ... do you have any basis whatsoever to make it, or do you just like to type the first thing that comes into your head, regardless of accuracy? ;)

[cd288]

That's quite a claim to make ... do you have any basis whatsoever to make it, or do you just like to type the first thing that comes into your head, regardless of accuracy? ;)

Plot twist: he’s the guy who owns the server farm

[sajbert]

Lol wait the guy who doesn’t want them to merge because he doesn’t like blues economy is asking if I have manastones to flip? Sounds like you’re the one with legacy items you’re trying to sell, and you know it’s bad for you if they merge into another server because that only means more in circulation.

Also, yes more servers does come at extra cost. You think the server host is just gonna be like oh yeah sure open up for servers I won’t charge you at all! Lol what
Assuming I play on Green, which I do, assuming I had a manastone, which I don’t, I’d gain value on manastone with a merge.

It was long since you had one server dedicated to running one game server. VM’s etc hahe changed all this. Would bandwidth significantly increase?

[cd288]

Assuming I play on Green, which I do, assuming I had a manastone, which I don’t, I’d gain value on manastone with a merge.

It was long since you had one server dedicated to running one game server. VM’s etc hahe changed all this. Would bandwidth significantly increase?

I don’t think you really understand how inflation/economics work or how servers work

[zelld52]

merging the server pops would be $$$$. im sure a lot of retired blue and green would come back too

[Ooloo]

There's no way there won't be another green. The sheer exhilaration of a fresh classic server launching is just too enticing for us nerds. I vividly remember the first day of green two years ago, and gradually branching out to higher level zones and feeling lucky to have ten plat. That is always going to be awesome no matter what. It's like starting a new game of breath of the wild. It's just good every time.

It would be really cool if they launched a new green on the same actual day of the year as the original EQ launch. That way Velious drops during the actual winter, for maximum nostalgia and immersion.

[sajbert]

I don’t think you really understand how inflation/economics work or how servers work

So please explain then how the price of manastone on green would go down upon a merge with blue where it currently hovers at around 500-700k pp. Yes there will be more manastones total but the number of manastones on the market on blue is very small and even with an outflux of players to Green 2.0 the total player count would be the same or increase and the amount of floating platinum would go even higher than it currently is on blue.

Interested in a bet? I’d be interested in putting 20k pp on the manastone prices going up from green with price evaluated 3 months after a merger.

[doodoobrown]

yall should fight

[Gustoo]

Green is a legacy item farm box for blue players hope this helps

[cd288]

So please explain then how the price of manastone on green would go down upon a merge with blue where it currently hovers at around 500-700k pp. Yes there will be more manastones total but the number of manastones on the market on blue is very small and even with an outflux of players to Green 2.0 the total player count would be the same or increase and the amount of floating platinum would go even higher than it currently is on blue.

Interested in a bet? I’d be interested in putting 20k pp on the manastone prices going up from green with price evaluated 3 months after a merger.

Again I don’t think you really know what the effect of currency inflation is

[Skuz]

Was the idea of new custom content thrown out and my dreams with it?

[Graahle]

Was the idea of new custom content thrown out and my dreams with it?

What do you mean? Green already has custom content huehue