You, yes YOU. Should be farming Holgresh Elder Beads

[Baler]

There is nothing stopping YOU from obtaining Holgresh Elder Beads (https://wiki.project1999.com/Holgresh_Elder_Beads)

Limited time Drop! Easy to sell for lots of Plat!

Head over to The Wakening Land (https://wiki.project1999.com/Wakening_Lands).
Track down An elder holgresh (https://wiki.project1999.com/An_elder_holgresh) and get your Beads!
Can be done on a level 50-60 character!!

Get more Holgresh Elder Beads into the market on green!
This may be our last chance at their drop for a long time!

[jadier]

Having more people on the list won’t actually increase supply, though.

The rate limiting steps are (1) pullers who can’t spend more than a few minutes running around collecting mobs before they have to get back and hit the timer, and (2) the number of non-afk listers actively burning down mobs.

If you’ve got three pullers and five dps, whether there are 20 or 40 others on the list is irrelevant. Except that the literal only two ways to do a list are via account sharing or total and complete neglect of all non-EQ activities for a truly unhealthy length of time.

So there really aren’t many people *capable* of joining the list, and it’s not obvious why it would matter. Like, as a necro, I’d love a insta-tap mob and an always-hammerable mob. I’d put in 40+ hours camping it…but not all at once.

To get my ornate velium pendant, I camped councilors for essentially all my play time every day and eventually got it and it was great. That’s not an option for the beads, because the /list mechanic requires upfront time investment.

A “list can’t be longer than 2 players and after each drop a /random determines who joins next” rule would be my preferred solution to the issues, but probably has some big downside I’m not thinking of.

TLDR; only a small fraction of p99 players can camp beads at all, and more people on the list doesn’t mean more beads on the server.

[Baler]

Don't listen to the naysayers!

You can do it!
You can get those Beads!

Don't miss your chance!

[azeth]

Having more people on the list won’t actually increase supply, though.

The rate limiting steps are (1) pullers who can’t spend more than a few minutes running around collecting mobs before they have to get back and hit the timer, and (2) the number of non-afk listers actively burning down mobs.

If you’ve got three pullers and five dps, whether there are 20 or 40 others on the list is irrelevant. Except that the literal only two ways to do a list are via account sharing or total and complete neglect of all non-EQ activities for a truly unhealthy length of time.

So there really aren’t many people *capable* of joining the list, and it’s not obvious why it would matter. Like, as a necro, I’d love a insta-tap mob and an always-hammerable mob. I’d put in 40+ hours camping it…but not all at once.

To get my ornate velium pendant, I camped councilors for essentially all my play time every day and eventually got it and it was great. That’s not an option for the beads, because the /list mechanic requires upfront time investment.

A “list can’t be longer than 2 players and after each drop a /random determines who joins next” rule would be my preferred solution to the issues, but probably has some big downside I’m not thinking of.

TLDR; only a small fraction of p99 players can camp beads at all, and more people on the list doesn’t mean more beads on the server.

Elders spawn outside of the cave. Find a spawn point and sit there

[fortior]

I sniff my beads every morning. lol at the idea of selling a bad ass legacy item for plat, which you can get hundreds of thousands of whenever you want

[whydothis]

Elders spawn outside of the cave. Find a spawn point and sit there

Except you can't loot the beads that drop outside of the cave because you're not #1. And depending on where they drop, #1 will miss them. It'd be nice if the wanderers were available to the plebs and the cave were just for /list.

[fortior]

Elders spawn outside of the cave. Find a spawn point and sit there

every elder beads drop in the whole zone is subject to the list lockout. if you kill an elder at druid rings and it drops beads, the drop goes to the #1 sleep deprived AFKer in the caves.

[azeth]

every elder beads drop in the whole zone is subject to the list lockout. if you kill an elder at druid rings and it drops beads, the drop goes to the #1 sleep deprived AFKer in the caves.

Oh that's retarded

[fortior]

it is how it is. just get a friend or 2 and farm up 3 beads in 3 weekends

[loramin]

There is nothing stopping YOU from obtaining Holgresh Elder Beads (https://wiki.project1999.com/Holgresh_Elder_Beads)

You're wrong: my need to sleep is stopping me.

[fortior]

if you have 2 friends you don't have to skimp on sleep at all, but this does require one to have at least 2 friends, so its out of reach for lots of players.

[Baler]

https://i.imgur.com/9kXlADf.gif

[Loadsamoney]

You, yes YOU, should be tipping DarkSydePhil during his streams so he can pay his bills.

[Baler]

You, yes YOU, should be tipping Redacted during his streams so he can pay his bills.

That guy is an idiot who is like 48 and spent all his money on pro wrestling trash.
Don't even say his name, that guy is not worth it.

For others, do not look up this moron. You'll be wasting brain cells if you do.

@Loadsamoney please don't RnF in my Holgresh Elder Beads Thread!, If you want to argue about that waste of space, make a thread and I'll contribute towards it.

[fortior]

I can't imagine not having elder beads.

[Baler]

https://i.imgur.com/nGZ5gwN.gif

[JDAm0nk]

After a certain point, what's the use?

It's clear that the majority of players on this server will not get an opportunity to camp Beads. I've seen one player alone sell 3x Beads, each for ~200kpp, in the last week or so. The only way to accomplish this (camping beads, that is) seems to be through having multiple people play one account.

I hope the people who are doing all this are enjoying themselves. Because it certainly doesn't seem to have a positive impact on the server and community. And that is my biggest issue with the whole situation. The economy on Green is so borked that I wouldn't recommend anyone start fresh on it nowadays. And it's not just for people who want "welfare pixels," raid loot, or other BiS gear. It makes playing as a "casual" (which in EQ means still spending thousands of hours playing) almost unbearable.

SCHW 4.5k? Howling Harpoon 4k? SoS 25k - 30kpp?

If you play on Blue or TAKP, you could obtain all these items for a fraction of the price (or free!). And you would have either a more flexible, modern UI/client or a more accurately classic one.

So unless you're like me and have already invested lots of time on your characters on Green, why play it? It isn't for the plethora of leveling groups anymore. It isn't for the chance to obtain legacy items, because those are either gone or unobtainable. Sure, there are plenty of great people to socialize and play with on Green, but it is a top heavy server ruled by guilds that continually promote anti-social behavior. And you know all those crazy eye-popping sticker prices on Green items we were talking about? Well no fear, because all the decent guards, giants, or other cash camps are perpetually camped as well!

It's a bummer because, overall, I have really enjoyed my time on Green. But let's not pretend like we have some glowing, amazing community here (we don't even have our own Guild forum...). Before Kunark released, I remember <Castle> would do weekly giveaways (think it was Saturday or Sunday) that they announced in the P99 Discord. Almost all the items were sub-100pp in value but that isn't even the point - it was awesome to see and experience as someone returning to EQ after two decades. And classic EQ is all about the community! It's what we all miss in modern MMOs with rampant boxing and RMT etc. But you don't really see community events/giveaways like that anymore (and this isn't a knock on Castle!)...

So yeah, I hope the people who are accumulating mountains of plat and being ultra "competitive" are enjoying themselves. It really won't make much of a difference when the population is dead, the servers merge, and the toxicity continues to circulate within this community. People will look elsewhere for their EQ fix.

[drackgon]

All list camps have to be done by multiple people playing the same account. No one has ever done 60 hours at their computer. So unless you have friends that you trust, don't listen to baler and live your life.

[GnomeCaptain]

every elder beads drop in the whole zone is subject to the list lockout. if you kill an elder at druid rings and it drops beads, the drop goes to the #1 sleep deprived AFKer in the caves.

Surely this isn't true!?

Surely the abomination known as /list, in addition to encouraging potentially lethal self-abuse, is not also laying claim to the efforts of unrelated third parties at a distance?

Disgusting if true. Really, really disgusting.

[Man0warr]

SCHW 4.5k? Howling Harpoon 4k? SoS 25k - 30kpp?

If you play on Blue or TAKP, you could obtain all these items for a fraction of the price (or free!). And you would have either a more flexible, modern UI/client or a more accurately classic one.

Can't get Beads for a fraction of the price on Blue that's for sure.

But the beads should be in game for ~5 more months. Just wait - list was already down to 10 the other day. If they fix the issue with Beads dropping outside the cave being locked to /list then even more Beads should enter the economy.

[Lightbringer55]

This server is like a time travel paradox. By trying to create a classic experience and having legacy items in for the duration and timeframe that were observed with the original classic timeline, it has in effect created ended up doing the opposite and creating a non-classic experience.

[Baler]

https://i.imgur.com/bk97sKJ.gif

[JDAm0nk]

Can't get Beads for a fraction of the price on Blue that's for sure.

But the beads should be in game for ~5 more months. Just wait - list was already down to 10 the other day. If they fix the issue with Beads dropping outside the cave being locked to /list then even more Beads should enter the economy.

Someone was trying to buy beads on Blue for 650kpp about a month ago. (https://www.reddit.com/r/project1999/comments/npww4o/wtb_elder_beads_on_blue/) In some ways, that pricing is more sensible than the current situation on Green!

I'm not even in the hunt for Beads and the thought of not being able to acquire them isn't what bothers me. I'm bothered because it seems like a glaring example of "f--- you, I'm getting mine" with people running around trying to extract as much profit from each interaction as possible. There is enough of that attitude in society that I'm not trying to seek it out in an emulated version of a 20+ year old video game. If you want to get sweaty and race for mobs, batphone, and take raiding as real. serious. business.... I don't have an issue with any of that. Do what makes you happy in life.

That content isn't any of my concern. It's more that I'm starting to feel bamboozled in the same way as if someone had successfully groomed me to start playing on Red in its current state. With no prior experience with emuEQ and looking at Blue's lifespan, I viewed playing on Green as a 'blue chip' method of getting my EQ nostalgia versus TLPs. "No boxing! Previous/other server going strong for over a decade! Active community!" I can't say I have the same faith in its longevity nowadays, and especially considering Velious was just released, that bums me out...

(And many in this community may feel that it was obvious that Green was going to turn out this way. That even that was part of its original design? There is a specific subset of the EQ population that seems drawn to farming/exploiting progression servers for maximum profit, and maybe Green is knowingly designed to tap into that. Personally, I would prefer to play with a stable, mature population centered around enjoying the content, community, and helping others out.

Just my two cents. I dig all the Beads memes :D)

[fortior]

But the beads should be in game for ~5 more months.

lol you're going to be disappointed

[Baler]

https://i.imgur.com/0slBoNz.gif

[JayDee]

All list camps have to be done by multiple people playing the same account. No one has ever done 60 hours at their computer. So unless you have friends that you trust, don't listen to baler and live your life.

Not true. Rogue who got his manastone couple days before me had to stay awake for much longer than 60 hours to get his because people after him refused to kill phs. There is a RnF thread about it if you care to look.

[Bardp1999]

A normal human being can not expect to acquire Elder Beads this thread is very misleading

[Noren]

It took me 30h to get mine. Not again thanks.

[Toxigen]

A normal human being can not expect to acquire Elder Beads this thread is very misleading

This. If you did a 30+ hour camp for beads alone you have some serious issues.

[fortior]

This. If you did a 30+ hour camp for beads alone you have some Holgresh Elder Beads.

fixed that for you

[fortior]

Another beautiful morning spent looking at my Holgresh Elder Beads. Can't imagine a world in which I don't have this item, the Holgresh Elder Beads.

[Man0warr]

lol you're going to be disappointed

I mean they were removed sometime between June-July 2001 in Classic, in those series of 4-5 patches. And they were removed in the same time frame on Blue.

[Convict]

I mean they were removed sometime between June-July 2001 in Classic, in those series of 4-5 patches. And they were removed in the same time frame on Blue.

green has already proven to have some accelerated removals though

could be due to some discrepancies and disagreement over the available information of when some items were removed, but seems the staff opted to go with the shorter times, if available

[Man0warr]

green has already proven to have some accelerated removals though

could be due to some discrepancies and disagreement over the available information of when some items were removed, but seems the staff opted to go with the shorter times, if available

Which ones, exactly? As far as I can tell every legacy item removed has been when it was expected to, or what the most likely evidence points to. Only one I can think of is Fungi Robe maybe should have had it's worn effect into Velious but no hard evidence for that outside of an Allakhazam post.

[fortior]

I mean they were removed sometime between June-July 2001 in Classic, in those series of 4-5 patches. And they were removed in the same time frame on Blue.

sure sure

[tadkins]

Eh I can already cast Eye of Zomm. :)

[Robot]

Which ones, exactly? As far as I can tell every legacy item removed has been when it was expected to, or what the most likely evidence points to. Only one I can think of is Fungi Robe maybe should have had it's worn effect into Velious but no hard evidence for that outside of an Allakhazam post.

most of the seb items, were all removed pretty much at the same time here. It did not happen like that on live, they were staggered as some items were discovered to be too OP before others, due to difficulty of the camps involved. BoTBD was removed later than other stuff like RFS and RoM for instance. But here they kinda just put it all into 1 patch, basically when the first item was removed, they rest got lumped in with it.

Also as someone who farmed 4x beads and used 1 of them and still have 1 of them on blue, shits waaaaaay over rated.

[fortior]

if you think beads are overrated you either don't play a monk or you put them on a class without FD

[Robot]

if you think beads are overrated you either don't play a monk or you put them on a class without FD

sweet summer child

https://i.imgur.com/LBRLPtp.png

[Robot]

dont get me wrong the beads are nice, i didnt say they were worthless.. just over rated.
I used them for a long time, including for raid pulling. Would never pay more than like 50k for them, but since I farmed them myself, no problem.

[fortior]

they let me tag pull solo which is really convenient and convenience is king. no way am i giving that up

[Baler]

Being able to pull around corners without moving out of the camp is insanely op.

[Bardp1999]

Beads are useful in HoT and no where else in the game. See the below rant for full analysis

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=274287

[Baler]

If players could not see through walls with crouch/sit/shrink/gnome/etc, the value on items like with would be much less.

the cheaper option is https://wiki.project1999.com/Stalking_Probe

The best part about stalking probe in my own personal experience is it can be used in classic exploits combined with spells to manipulating your character's position in the world. Like how logging out does.
*everyone's ears and eyes just turned towards baler*

[fortior]

stalking probes are good but they last a good bit shorter

Beads are useful in HoT and no where else in the game. See the below rant for full analysis

I don't know that poster, but spyder73 sounds really dumb op.

[Baler]

stalking probes are good but they last a good bit shorter



I don't know that poster, but spyder73 sounds really dumb op.

You only need 1 click to get through any door with clickies or as a shapeshifter :cool:

Spyder73 aka banned wutang, has been hitting the angry koolaid lately. I hope he feels better and life is nicer to him. He is among the people I like to see post on p99.

[fortior]

TRUE

[Ravager]

I think it's funny that /list applies to outside the cave too. I think for the Green reset they should take all of this list business a step further and not only implement the /list on all of the legacy camps, but then implement the fabled anti-camp radius code as well.

[Baler]

I think it's funny that /list applies to outside the cave too. I think for the Green reset they should take all of this list business a step further and not only implement the /list on all of the legacy camps, but then implement the fabled anti-camp radius code as well.


Beads rotting @ kael entrance. :p

[Bigcountry23]

Not everyone is able (willing) to share account information with strangers and doesn't know anyone who plays whom they could deal with personally if shady shit happens.

[Synphul]

P99: We don't encourage or condone account sharing.

Also P99: Implements un-classic system that encourages/rewards account sharing.

All in all the battle is already lost on that front with the way raid guilds are structured so meh.

[Baler]

P99: We don't encourage or condone account sharing.

Also P99: Implements un-classic system that encourages/rewards account sharing.

All in all the battle is already lost on that front with the way raid guilds are structured so meh.

to be fair to the p99 staff, they do NOT condone account sharing.

When there are mass bans for RMT, many of those are shared accounts.

Dont share account info unless you're willing to get banned. im just saying.

ps. the only account sharing I've done with my accounts is with 1 real life person that I personally know.

[Gustoo]

I bought pre nerf circlet of shadows on blue when they were like 3k

I lost like 2 to the guy who was holding them for me who disappeared probably quit playing, but have a few left now.

They're worth a lot.

But then, I don't play the server so not sure if it was worth the investment?

[Baler]

*Halt* - Daggerfall Guard

Stop farming this, move on.

[Tunabros]

damn its that easy?!

Im gonna hop on wait in line and get myself some elder beads. JEEZ! I did not know

that getting these beads would be as easy as farming lightstones!!

Thanks, Baler!!! Without this thread, I would have never gone to farm Elder Beads!

If I only I was willing to sit in line for a few hours and kill monkeys for an undesignated

amount of time! Thanks, Baler!

[Bones]

whats with the "line" ? there was no line on blue for elder beads, not because a lack of people, there was 1k players at velious launch, but because holgresh elders could spawn off any holgresh spawn in the zone (they spawn all over the fuckin place) and any elder could drop elder beads. I farmed 5 beads and all of them were off random spawns in the zone, not in the cave. Did they change that on green or something? Does the elder only spawn in the cave now?

[Noren]

whats with the "line" ? there was no line on blue for elder beads, not because a lack of people, there was 1k players at velious launch, but because holgresh elders could spawn off any holgresh spawn in the zone (they spawn all over the fuckin place) and any elder could drop elder beads. I farmed 5 beads and all of them were off random spawns in the zone, not in the cave. Did they change that on green or something? Does the elder only spawn in the cave now?

List drop is zone wide, even outside list range.
If you kill an elder with beads outside list range, only #1 on list can loot it.

You can't get beads unless you wait your turn.

[Bones]

List drop is zone wide, even outside list range.
If you kill an elder with beads outside list range, only #1 on list can loot it.

You can't get beads unless you wait your turn.

w.... wow ok ummm

yikes...

thats actually really shitty to list an item than can drop nearly anywhere in the zone and isnt a "camp". Thank god I didn't have to deal with that shit on blue.

[Zwieback]

Getting beads on blue was alot easier with 2x population and without list. good job devs!

w.... wow ok ummm

yikes...

thats actually really shitty to list an item than can drop nearly anywhere in the zone and isnt a "camp". Thank god I didn't have to deal with that shit on blue.

[Seducio]

Thank god I didn't have to deal with that shit on blue.

/thread

[Kavious]

List drop is zone wide, even outside list range.
If you kill an elder with beads outside list range, only #1 on list can loot it.

You can't get beads unless you wait your turn.

So someone can kill a roaming elder holgresh in the middle of WL and if beads drop they cant loot the corpse. Then if #1 cant find the corpse they will lose their place, beads rot and then they are locked out?

[this user was banned]

Getting beads on blue was alot easier with 2x population and without list. good job devs!

The lists on blue were 2 to 4 times smaller, nothing like 20+ people we have now.

[Bones]

So someone can kill a roaming elder holgresh in the middle of WL and if beads drop they cant loot the corpse. Then if #1 cant find the corpse they will lose their place, beads rot and then they are locked out?

this is what was implied it sounds like, which doesnt make any sense. If someone gets beads drops outside of the list range they should be able to loot it. This would solve SO many issues with current state of beads on green.

[blindedsoul]

Really they just need to increase list range to the mouth of holg canyon imo. I have pulled for groups there and your constantly having to go out of list range/ play around its cooldown.

Other solution would be to have people who recently tag/ kill a holgresh have a certain amount of time removed from their list range so pullers are not punished for wanting to be efficient in camp and players for helping

100% think list should be there and no loot for others though, there are already people upset that they cant skip the holgresh loot line / occasionally intentionally pulling towards other zone lines to test it.

Permanent lockout from list after loot needs to be removed though, imo it rewards neckbeards with 10+ chars over level 50 lol permafarming. Whereas 7 day lockout is a pretty healthy balance imo

[Bones]

Its funny to me all this fuss over this drop, literally almost everybody camping this is getting it and turning around and immediately trying to sell it, saturating the market while the item is still dropping lol. Not smart investing or time spent vs reward reaped.

Most of them are trying to trade for fungi + plat too like that's gonna happen. Despite fungi never being removed its still a more useful item for more classes with less supply and more demand than beads at the moment. If they were smart they would hold onto the beads for a while, long after its been removed, then try to sell them when the market isn't saturated.

[fortior]

So someone can kill a roaming elder holgresh in the middle of WL and if beads drop they cant loot the corpse. Then if #1 cant find the corpse they will lose their place, beads rot and then they are locked out?

Yes, but GMs will reimburse the #1 if beads rot because the killer didnt put a /loc in /ooc.

[blindedsoul]

Its funny to me all this fuss over this drop, literally almost everybody camping this is getting it and turning around and immediately trying to sell it, saturating the market while the item is still dropping lol. Not smart investing or time spent vs reward reaped.

Most of them are trying to trade for fungi + plat too like that's gonna happen. Despite fungi never being removed its still a more useful item for more classes with less supply and more demand than beads at the moment. If they were smart they would hold onto the beads for a while, long after its been removed, then try to sell them when the market isn't saturated.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=388026

Traded for Fungi + COF 6 days ago (Current asking value hovering ~ 150k this gent was asking 200)

Tbh I really dont think there will be much market change, people who farmed fungi's already had a ton of plat.

The thing I want to avoid is watching the insane drop disputes people will have after pulling holgs out of valley/ skipping loot lines where people have spent 40+ hours waiting on a drop... they get angry quick.

[JayDee]

Market is going to be flooded with them soon. People taking their tickets and waiting in line for their free beads unlike blue where there was some effort and uncertainty which made it a less desirable camp

[Izmael]

The thing I want to avoid is watching the insane drop disputes people will have after pulling holgs out of valley/ skipping loot lines where people have spent 40+ hours waiting on a drop... they get angry quick.


This would provide some of the best potential forum popcorn material for a long while (until the precise day green Sleeper is released).

[Bones]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=388026

Traded for Fungi + COF 6 days ago (Current asking value hovering ~ 150k this gent was asking 200)

Tbh I really dont think there will be much market change, people who farmed fungi's already had a ton of plat.

The thing I want to avoid is watching the insane drop disputes people will have after pulling holgs out of valley/ skipping loot lines where people have spent 40+ hours waiting on a drop... they get angry quick.

Yeah I know I did a search on beads on the green forums after I made that post just to see. Despite that incredible deal, theres still like 10 people selling beads for every 1 person buying. Most people buying are offering 100k or less which imo is smart, and possibly still overpay imo, current market considering. That beads for fungi+CoF was a HELL of a deal for the guy with the beads currently. I searched CoF after because I was curious and it seems like they were going for 250-300k not too long ago, which alone is already worth more than beads. If I were the authority on setting values id put CoF around 150-175k atm which is about what the 2 dozen people trying to sell beads right now are asking.

I dont think beads aren't a great item, they certainly are amazing... for the 2 classes that use em. I have 2 pair left on blue and I checked the value yesterday and they are going for about 700-750k there. My point was that everyone grabbing beads rn and trying to sell them immediately is just not smart investing. Hold onto that shit for a while sell it several months down the line after its been removed and after the supply frenzy dries up. But people are impatient and want a quick cash grab now rather than waiting for the returns to come.

[baue1446]

Beads never really went below 100 on blue. Not saying some didnt get for under 100 because im sure there were plenty of people that got good deals here and there. But beads were at 100k most of the first year ish. Then the price started climbing and climbing.

I wouldnt doubt if the price stabilizes on Green at 100k for a good long while with the amount of beads out there.

[Man0warr]

Beads were down to 10k on Blue before they got removed - although people didn't know exactly when Nilbog was going to remove them at the time.

[JDFriend99]

Except you can't loot the beads that drop outside of the cave because you're not #1. And depending on where they drop, #1 will miss them. It'd be nice if the wanderers were available to the plebs and the cave were just for /list.

except it's now been discussed in ooc about 4 rogues pickpocketing the heads from elders for weeks and making people legitimately wait 40-60 hours for a drop. So there's that too I guess. hope they Perma ban every account associated with the cheats

[JDFriend99]

beads not heads

[Izmael]

big if true ^

[drackgon]

Its not true. Peeps being trolled.

[Man0warr]

Well it ended up being true.

[fortior]

How do I pickpocket magic items?

[ReadOnly]

Rogues are using the ability "Pickpocket" which is another word for "Steal." Obviously, this is working as intended. What's the problem here? Theft is literally the name of the ability. Also, my rogue can't cast Gate. Should we perma spellcasters for using abilities my rogue can't?

[fortior]

How do I pickpocket magic items?

Wait lmao they're not magic? Oh hell yeah, the plot thickens!!!!

[fortior]

https://i.imgur.com/UaAczW0.png

L M A O

[Izmael]

"I was just trying to raise my skill!"

[baue1446]

https://i.imgur.com/UaAczW0.png

L M A O


Honestly, regardless of how much this sucks for those on the list this isnt a bug, it isnt a cheat its a legitimate part of the game. Im sure the GMs are going to take action. But I feel that they should of either made them magic to prevent this or just suck it up.

I mean how can they possibly punish these rogues for doing something that isnt exploiting anything besides EQs/p99 lack of planning for this situation?

[loramin]

I mean how can they possibly punish these rogues for doing something that isnt exploiting anything besides EQs/p99 lack of planning for this situation?

You can lawyer it all you want, but at the end of the day these people knew what they were doing was wrong. Whether the game allowed that or not is irrelevant.

[u_lock]

I mean how can they possibly punish these rogues for doing something that isnt exploiting anything besides EQs/p99 lack of planning for this situation?

That's the same justification for exploiting pathing

[baue1446]

That's the same justification for exploiting pathing

Thats a very broad association. Pathing exploits are to avoid game mechanics. Pickpocketing is not that

[JayDee]

You, yes YOU. Should be pickpocketing Holgresh Elder Beads

[Bones]

If you are really wanting a pair of beads right now but cannot sit in that list line, you should be bringing a rogue friend to WL, and run around killing the holgresh throughout the zone that arent being killed by the cave and the list camp, get elders to spawn and have a rogue buddy pickpocket the beads off those.

This way it isn't interfering with the idiots sittin in the cave for 60 hours and you aren't having to sit in the list to get beads. Seems like a win/win to me since the list camp should abso-fucking-lutely not affect every beads drop in the entire zone. You are also very unlikely to get caught doing this or anybody ever even finding out.

Or just fix it so beads dropping outside of the list range arent affected by the list, because thats just fucking insanely dumb to me that this is a thing right now.

[Fang]

Was the motivation to make this thread to get more people out there killing PH's to spawn more elders for the rogues to pickpocket?

[JDFriend99]

This. If you did a 30+ hour camp for beads alone you have some serious issues.

Do all of you share accounts? Because I don't and i too have sat entire time checking the 8min-15min timer, and pulling for tens of hours on end.

Does the mass of the server share accounts?

[Synphul]

Does the mass of the server share accounts?

Almost everyone I know that has played here consistently over the years and accomplished anything has at some point shared an account even if it was just logging into a shared guild bot. They may not share their 'main', but with accounts so easy to make and level it's more widespread than you'd think. With modern technology you can even do it without giving your account info away by screensharing, so yeah, there's a lot of account sharing here.

[strongNpretty]

I don't think half of you at the top end even enjoy playing this game anymore.. You just login cause the friends you do have, are all in Norrath. Or, you've just invested so much time, it's not fathomable to leave it all behind at this point..

[Izmael]

I don't think it's a matter of time invested. Probably more of a matter of this being the only actual "virtual world" the old timers find peace in.

[strongNpretty]

I don't think it's a matter of time invested. Probably more of a matter of this being the only actual "virtual world" the old timers find peace in.

I suggest an Oculus Quest 2 then to experience a proper virtual world... Still calling this breed of P99 players- Addicted old ass dudes.

https://www.oculus.com/

[Pyrocat]

Beads never really went below 100 on blue. Not saying some didnt get for under 100 because im sure there were plenty of people that got good deals here and there. But beads were at 100k most of the first year ish. Then the price started climbing and climbing.

I wouldnt doubt if the price stabilizes on Green at 100k for a good long while with the amount of beads out there.

Beads were regularly selling for 30k for like a month before they got removed.

[Bones]

Beads were regularly selling for 30k for like a month before they got removed.

facts, i sold the first 2 pair i got for 50k during the first month they were dropping for quick cash, then kept the next 3, sold one months later for like 150k and still have 2 left

[Zwieback]

no.
Beads were regularly selling for 30k for like a month before they got removed.

[Beckoning]

no.

Yes

[Toxigen]

this is the best p99 saga in a long while

[Manakim]

Classic? lol

[Bardp1999]

Beads were definitely 25k-30k while they were still dropping on Blue. People had no idea if/when they would be removed.

Source: I traded a tranix crown for some

[Izmael]

The drama-producing potential that P99 has and always had never ceases to amaze me.