It begins to snow

[Pyrocat]

How's everyone liking Velious so far?

[jadier]

How's everyone liking Velious so far?

Hammered to OT, took the boat to Oasis, ran to NRo, took the boat down. Ran across Iceclad, EW, and GD to Thurgadin, then through Thurg to Icewell Keep.

Tried soloing a Councilor, found out they can’t be rooted, feigned and logged for family time.

But man alive, it was an absolute blast.

[greenspectre]

Was at my son's karate practice when it dropped. Got home, took the boat and did the run to GD for my tooth as my guild was bidding out the drops on the Dain and hopped into our Velketor kill, then logged for dinner. Was sweet, and I look forward to some exp/loot grinds in Velks :D

[Tethler]

Was at my son's karate practice when it dropped. Got home, took the boat and did the run to GD for my tooth as my guild was bidding out the drops on the Dain and hopped into our Velketor kill, then logged for dinner. Was sweet, and I look forward to some exp/loot grinds in Velks :D

Hope to be with ya'll soon. Was getting ready for work when it dropped. Been seeing all the fun I'm missing out on watching discord at work. RIP

[Sotaris]

Hammered to OT, took the boat to Oasis, ran to NRo, took the boat down. Ran across Iceclad, EW, and GD to Thurgadin, then through Thurg to Icewell Keep.

Tried soloing a Councilor, found out they can’t be rooted, feigned and logged for family time.

But man alive, it was an absolute blast.

Trying to get an Ornate Velium Pendant? I loved having one of those back in the day. I don't think many people knew how powerful it was, neither as a GCD reset nor as somewhat useful utility tool. I loved that thing! How long will it drop here?

[Nilstoniakrath]

It is great, been looking forward to Velious for a long time. Thanks! to the volunteer staff and devs

A few questions, are there some things missing?

Hybrid penalties removed? Hard to tell with the xp bonus
Velious spells, example ranger sow at 30/panic animal at 22, thought those came out with Velious, and not some later patch
Etc

Thanks again, just curious

[Nomadic Plainswalker]

It is great, been looking forward to Velious for a long time. Thanks! to the volunteer staff and devs

A few questions, are there some things missing?

Hybrid penalties removed? Hard to tell with the xp bonus
Velious spells, example ranger sow at 30/panic animal at 22, thought those came out with Velious, and not some later patch
Etc

Thanks again, just curious

Wondering these same things. Very sad not to see the new spells in at launch. Hope its an oversight and not a wait a couple months thing!

[Chris1479]

Wondering these same things. Very sad not to see the new spells in at launch. Hope its an oversight and not a wait a couple months thing!

I'm confused about what spells are fully available and which aren't. I got one or two paladin spells that read that they're for level "255" whatever that means.

[Nilstoniakrath]

Not to be a downer, but still waiting on:

ranger Velious spells
Kunark ports not requiring Kunark dungeon to originate from
Druid track cap matching Classic limits
hybrid xp penalty removal
10 slot hotbar unbugged (as in sticks when zoning or camping)

thanks again for getting Velious launch on time, not joking, wouldnt have been surprised if that had been delayed by weeks / months

And if any of the above is actually supposed to be in a later patch, my apologies. As in Velious group ports, thought only the rings were delayed til a much later patch forgot there is a month or three delay on when the vendors are in game

[YendorLootmonkey]

The hybrid experience penalties don't get taken out until like a month into Velious:

https://everquest.allakhazam.com/editorial/011401_EQ_Producers_letter.html

The spell stuff is 2 months in:

February 21, 2001 3:00 am
------------------------------

*Patch Day*

Today's patch contains a wide variety of enhancements and changes. Due
to the number of changes being made, this list is primarily a summary.
Extended descriptions of the changes and the reasoning behind them can
be solicited on the EverQuest Message Boards.

*Spell and Skill Changes*

Druids, Shaman, and Clerics:
--- Superior Healing moved to level 51 for shamans and druids.
--- Casting difficulty of Superior Heal reduced (less fizzles)
--- New level 55 Druid and shaman spell, Chloroblast, similar to remedy
for clerics.
--- New Druid spell at level 60, upgrade to superior healing, Natures
Touch.
--- Created a new spell effect for Celestial Healing, Celestial Elixir,
and Torpor. This will allow them to stack with all other spells, save
spells of the same type (Heal over time). Prior to this, all heal-over-
time spells followed the same rules as regeneration spells.
--- Reduced the casting difficulty of Remedy.
--- Lowered recast time on Wake of Karana

Paladins:
--- Added Endure Magic spell at level 30
--- Added Resist Magic at 55
--- Moved Guard spell from 49 to 39
--- Moved Armor of Faith from 53 to 49
--- Added New level 53 paladin spell: Divine Glory
--- Added New level 59 spell: Celestial Cleansing
--- Defense skill cap made exactly same as warriors
--- Added Yaulp 4 at 60 and enhanced.

Shadowknights:
--- Removed artificially inflated mana cost for pre level 50 lifetap
spells. Please note that post-50 lifetap spells never had an inflated
mana cost.
--- Moved Spirit Tap to level 55
--- Moved Drain Spirit to level 57
--- Added Drain Soul at level 60
--- Grim Aura added at level 22 and enhanced
--- Moved Shieldskin to level 34
--- Pet buff added at 29
--- Added Diamondskin spell at 59
--- Defense skill cap made exactly same as warriors
--- Due to the recent improvements to "Harmtouch", it is doing much
more damage than it would before and unbalances PvP. As such it will
now do less damage in PvP (68% of PvE, down from 80%). In addition,
Shadowknights on the PvP servers were routinely killing themselves via
non-XP losing means and attacking other players with Harmtouch
immediately upon respawn. In order to address this situation, Harmtouch
is no longer automatically "recharged" by death on the PvP Servers.
--- The "Lifeleech" discipline now increases hit probability in
addition to its other effects.


Rangers:
--- Added Endure Cold at 22
--- Added Skin Like Nature at 59
--- Added FireFist at 22
--- Moved Bramblecoat from 49 to 39
--- Added Spikecoat at 49
--- Added resist cold at 55
--- Added Panic Animal at 22
--- Moved Jolt to 51
--- Moved Spirt of Wolf from 39 to 30
--- Added Cinder Jolt (fire-based Jolt spell) at 55.
--- Offense and weapons skill made identical to warriors
--- Added See Invisible at 39

Bards:
--- Added new level 20 Bard Song: Cassindra`s Chant of Clarity
--- Bards defensive skill made exactly the same as a warriors
--- Changed it so that the bard spell Denon's Desperate Dirge to
increase damge by 10pts per level over 45. Also made it so the spell
does 20% more damage using the Puretone discipline.

Magicians:
--- Added new level 59 spell: Valiant Companion
--- Added new level 39 spell: Summon Companion
--- Rain spells no longer count pets against total number of entities
they can damage (all rain spells)
--- Added level 29 spell for Mages: Expedience

Enchanters:
--- Lowered recast time on Visions of Grandeur

*Bug Fixes*

--- Aggressive and Defensive disciplines have been fixed. Before they
would only affect damage taken and not affect damage dealt out. Now
they affect both as designed.
--- Fixed the bug with going to the spellbook when the inventory window
was up in fullview mode. It should work now. Also, fixed a minor bug
where if you were in normal mode and tried to go to the spellbook from
inventory via /book or the keymapped key it would not go, and it would
make the done button not work properly for the inventory mode.
--- Fixed NPC melee ranges to be the same as for player characters. In
other words, if you can hit the NPC, he can hit you. This bug was a
problem with one dragon that could be hit, but could not hit back.
--- Fixed a bug that made it impossible to "Call of the Hero" someone
out of water or lava.
--- Fixed the proc on the Chilled Scythe. Owners of this item will need
to swap it out with a GM.
--- The Kromzek Surveyor Scope now fits in the "Ranged" slot rather
than the "Ammo" slot as before.
--- Fixed a bug that caused the two single-target bard snare songs to
break too soon in some cases.
--- Fixed a bug whereby NPCs would consider the race of a player prior
to the loading of the faction table upon zoning or logging in. This
would cause people to be attacked by things that normally like them.
--- Players should now be properly removed from the group regardless of
how they exit the game.

*Misc Changes*

--- Added text labels to the fullview inventory window "body" slots
(Available only to Velious Subscribers)
--- Added the ability to toggle those labels on and off. Use
/invwinlabels [on/off] (or no arguments to toggle). This is saved in
the eqclient.ini file in the [Defaults] section with the key
InvWinLabels=[TRUE/FALSE]
--- Increased the pre-50 bind-wounds cap for rogues and warriors.
--- Pickpocket now works to a max of 5 levels below you, or level
45...whichever is greater... You can pickpocket NPC up to level 55 if
you are level 60.
--- The mouse pointer will now move at a multiple of its normal speed
when you adjust the MousePointerSpeedMod setting in the eqclient.ini

[JayDee]

Let me down with the ninja velious drop. No mention on home page. Not in announcements. Guess I wont be playing

[Nilstoniakrath]

The hybrid experience penalties don't get taken out until like a month into Velious:

https://everquest.allakhazam.com/editorial/011401_EQ_Producers_letter.html

The spell stuff is 2 months in:

February 21, 2001 3:00 am
------------------------------

*Patch Day*

Today's patch contains a wide variety of enhancements and changes. Due
to the number of changes being made, this list is primarily a summary.
Extended descriptions of the changes and the reasoning behind them can
be solicited on the EverQuest Message Boards.

*Spell and Skill Changes*

Druids, Shaman, and Clerics:
--- Superior Healing moved to level 51 for shamans and druids.
--- Casting difficulty of Superior Heal reduced (less fizzles)
--- New level 55 Druid and shaman spell, Chloroblast, similar to remedy
for clerics.
--- New Druid spell at level 60, upgrade to superior healing, Natures
Touch.
--- Created a new spell effect for Celestial Healing, Celestial Elixir,
and Torpor. This will allow them to stack with all other spells, save
spells of the same type (Heal over time). Prior to this, all heal-over-
time spells followed the same rules as regeneration spells.
--- Reduced the casting difficulty of Remedy.
--- Lowered recast time on Wake of Karana

Paladins:
--- Added Endure Magic spell at level 30
--- Added Resist Magic at 55
--- Moved Guard spell from 49 to 39
--- Moved Armor of Faith from 53 to 49
--- Added New level 53 paladin spell: Divine Glory
--- Added New level 59 spell: Celestial Cleansing
--- Defense skill cap made exactly same as warriors
--- Added Yaulp 4 at 60 and enhanced.

Shadowknights:
--- Removed artificially inflated mana cost for pre level 50 lifetap
spells. Please note that post-50 lifetap spells never had an inflated
mana cost.
--- Moved Spirit Tap to level 55
--- Moved Drain Spirit to level 57
--- Added Drain Soul at level 60
--- Grim Aura added at level 22 and enhanced
--- Moved Shieldskin to level 34
--- Pet buff added at 29
--- Added Diamondskin spell at 59
--- Defense skill cap made exactly same as warriors
--- Due to the recent improvements to "Harmtouch", it is doing much
more damage than it would before and unbalances PvP. As such it will
now do less damage in PvP (68% of PvE, down from 80%). In addition,
Shadowknights on the PvP servers were routinely killing themselves via
non-XP losing means and attacking other players with Harmtouch
immediately upon respawn. In order to address this situation, Harmtouch
is no longer automatically "recharged" by death on the PvP Servers.
--- The "Lifeleech" discipline now increases hit probability in
addition to its other effects.


Rangers:
--- Added Endure Cold at 22
--- Added Skin Like Nature at 59
--- Added FireFist at 22
--- Moved Bramblecoat from 49 to 39
--- Added Spikecoat at 49
--- Added resist cold at 55
--- Added Panic Animal at 22
--- Moved Jolt to 51
--- Moved Spirt of Wolf from 39 to 30
--- Added Cinder Jolt (fire-based Jolt spell) at 55.
--- Offense and weapons skill made identical to warriors
--- Added See Invisible at 39

Bards:
--- Added new level 20 Bard Song: Cassindra`s Chant of Clarity
--- Bards defensive skill made exactly the same as a warriors
--- Changed it so that the bard spell Denon's Desperate Dirge to
increase damge by 10pts per level over 45. Also made it so the spell
does 20% more damage using the Puretone discipline.

Magicians:
--- Added new level 59 spell: Valiant Companion
--- Added new level 39 spell: Summon Companion
--- Rain spells no longer count pets against total number of entities
they can damage (all rain spells)
--- Added level 29 spell for Mages: Expedience

Enchanters:
--- Lowered recast time on Visions of Grandeur

*Bug Fixes*

--- Aggressive and Defensive disciplines have been fixed. Before they
would only affect damage taken and not affect damage dealt out. Now
they affect both as designed.
--- Fixed the bug with going to the spellbook when the inventory window
was up in fullview mode. It should work now. Also, fixed a minor bug
where if you were in normal mode and tried to go to the spellbook from
inventory via /book or the keymapped key it would not go, and it would
make the done button not work properly for the inventory mode.
--- Fixed NPC melee ranges to be the same as for player characters. In
other words, if you can hit the NPC, he can hit you. This bug was a
problem with one dragon that could be hit, but could not hit back.
--- Fixed a bug that made it impossible to "Call of the Hero" someone
out of water or lava.
--- Fixed the proc on the Chilled Scythe. Owners of this item will need
to swap it out with a GM.
--- The Kromzek Surveyor Scope now fits in the "Ranged" slot rather
than the "Ammo" slot as before.
--- Fixed a bug that caused the two single-target bard snare songs to
break too soon in some cases.
--- Fixed a bug whereby NPCs would consider the race of a player prior
to the loading of the faction table upon zoning or logging in. This
would cause people to be attacked by things that normally like them.
--- Players should now be properly removed from the group regardless of
how they exit the game.

*Misc Changes*

--- Added text labels to the fullview inventory window "body" slots
(Available only to Velious Subscribers)
--- Added the ability to toggle those labels on and off. Use
/invwinlabels [on/off] (or no arguments to toggle). This is saved in
the eqclient.ini file in the [Defaults] section with the key
InvWinLabels=[TRUE/FALSE]
--- Increased the pre-50 bind-wounds cap for rogues and warriors.
--- Pickpocket now works to a max of 5 levels below you, or level
45...whichever is greater... You can pickpocket NPC up to level 55 if
you are level 60.
--- The mouse pointer will now move at a multiple of its normal speed
when you adjust the MousePointerSpeedMod setting in the eqclient.ini

Excellent, thank you for the clarification on hybrid xp and the Velious spells.

Any one know when the Kunark ports to Skyfire and Emerald Jungle no longer required being in a dungeon zone on Live?

[cd288]

Excellent, thank you for the clarification on hybrid xp and the Velious spells.

Any one know when the Kunark ports to Skyfire and Emerald Jungle no longer required being in a dungeon zone on Live?

------------------------------
June 27, 2001 3:00 am
------------------------------

- Wind of the North, Wind of the South, Markar's Relocation and
Tishan's Relocation have had their additional restrictions removed, and
can now be cast from any zone where other similar spells can be cast.

***

If those are the spells you're thinking of it looks like the dungeon requirement goes away like 6 months from now maybe?

[Graahle]

I think it's awesome the devs nonchalantly released Velious. It's not a big deal. Did Green even break 1k players on release weekend with 25% exp bonus lol?

[cd288]

I think it's awesome the devs nonchalantly released Velious. It's not a big deal. Did Green even break 1k players on release weekend with 25% exp bonus lol?

4th of July weekend what do you expect lol

[Graahle]

4th of July weekend what do you expect lol

At velious launch on blue where there were literal thousands online, they would’ve skipped the second coming of christ to grind dragon faction lmao

[cd288]

At velious launch on blue where there were literal thousands online, they would’ve skipped the second coming of christ to grind dragon faction lmao

It also was unannounced on green

[Graahle]

Word of mouth travels fast in these parts. Fake elf fans

[Tethler]

At velious launch on blue where there were literal thousands online, they would’ve skipped the second coming of christ to grind dragon faction lmao

Blue had an announcement 2 months prior about release date. Anyone that really wanted to experiece velious content 1 week ago could have rolled on blue any time they wanted and experienced it. When it launched on blue there was no such option. All the beards on blue had 2 months notice to put in for vacation time and they early announcement brought a bunch back from retirement since velious was new on p99. Green release was on a holiday weekend where people likely had plans.

So many reasons for the difference in numbers. I think the bolded reasons are the biggest.

[Nomadic Plainswalker]

I think it's awesome the devs nonchalantly released Velious. It's not a big deal. Did Green even break 1k players on release weekend with 25% exp bonus lol?

Prior to the day Green launched it was made known the release dates for both Kunark and Velious. if you were surprised, its on you.

[cd288]

Prior to the day Green launched it was made known the release dates for both Kunark and Velious. if you were surprised, its on you.

By the staff? All I saw were players discussing that it was supposed to come out the next day and hoping that the timeline was right, with no actual confirmation.

Again, it's also fourth of July weekend. Way better things to do than jump on Velious release.

[Nomadic Plainswalker]

By the staff? All I saw were players discussing that it was supposed to come out the next day and hoping that the timeline was right, with no actual confirmation.

Again, it's also fourth of July weekend. Way better things to do than jump on Velious release.

Hard to be more obvious that this - which was included in the intro to the Green server video put out by the staff. It's also been referenced here on this site for months.

[cd288]

Hard to be more obvious that this - which was included in the intro to the Green server video put out by the staff. It's also been referenced here on this site for months.

Right that's the original intended timeline, but the point is there was no confirmation that they were actually going to do it that day. We've already seen delays for things on Green thus far (not bashing staff, they're busy with real lives) so it's not unreasonable to speculate whether Velious would release on time without contemporaneous staff confirmation. And therefore not unreasonable to go enjoy your holiday weekend rather than making plans around Velious dropping in case it doesnt.

[Graahle]

Unless you're a sweatlord with nothing going on in your life, it's always better to choose a classic holiday weekend over snow elf game.

[Nomadic Plainswalker]

Unless you're a sweatlord with nothing going on in your life, it's always better to choose a classic holiday weekend over snow elf game.

Exactly.