Dial a Port

[Sassystew]

Just got lvl 29 on my Wiz I was wondering who to ask about dial a port?
Should I wait till a member is online?
Thanks

[Ozudin20]

Just got lvl 29 on my Wiz I was wondering who to ask about dial a port?
Should I wait till a member is online?
Thanks

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[chevy79bu]

Just got lvl 29 on my Wiz I was wondering who to ask about dial a port?
Should I wait till a member is online?
Thanks

There are always members of dial a port online just sometimes few are showing because they go /a non when not porting. So my suggestion is either ask in /ooc for someone from dial a port to message you in say EC zone. Or just periodically do /who all dial until you see someone on the list. They have a website that you are supposed to register with and most guild members have the ability to invite you.

[cadoipi]

The guild website is https://dialaport.freeforums.net/

If you want to join Dial a Port, make an account, read/follow the instructions, and then contact a member of Dial in game.

[ashentco]

Just wanted to randomly reply to this thread and say thanks everyone in Dial A Port.

[cd288]

Apparently you have to apply or make an account on a website or something. Seems like a hassle for a guild where all you do is port. Why do you need to go through those steps not like it’s a raiding guild

[Midoo]

Apparently you have to apply or make an account on a website or something. Seems like a hassle for a guild where all you do is port. Why do you need to go through those steps not like it’s a raiding guild

It's reasonable they would want to track everyone in case someone does some stupid shit that will tarnish the guild's name

[cadoipi]

Please pay people in DaP well! From my experience in DaP, too many high level players tip 10-30pp instead of the standard minimum baseline of pp/lvl. This is why all too often a /who all dial only returns Dialor and members of <Dial a Daniel>.

[Baler]

Dial a Port is a household name on P99. I gave them hate early on and mid way through.

But they're actually good for the server health. They provide a community service, For the community.

The bad eggs weed themselves out.

[Indecisive]

I was a DaP porter many times on Blue, and I never had to make an account to join ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

It used to be, they'd make everyone an officer so they could efficiently invite porters and not have to wait around. You'd get a basic rundown of how the guild worked (mention DaP in your port message, can't demand platinum, go /anon if not porting, etc.) and then you'd get an invite. Maybe it's different on Green, but the system they had on Blue worked fine, so I don't see the need for extra steps - especially since porting isn't nearly as profitable on Green as it was on Blue, and it's harder to find ports.

Just contact someone in the guild, OP.

[cd288]

Please pay people in DaP well! From my experience in DaP, too many high level players tip 10-30pp instead of the standard minimum baseline of pp/lvl. This is why all too often a /who all dial only returns Dialor and members of <Dial a Daniel>.

IMO minimum of a pp per level is pretty ridiculous if you’re not on Blue. Depending on the class you could be level 60 and not have infinite amounts of plat on Green.

If I walk up to the WC Druid rings and you’re sitting there watching Netflix and spamming an /ooc about ports why should I pay you 60pp for clicking a button while you binge watch TV? I’m not saying I would stiff you but I think 30-35pp is totally reasonable.

Edit: and that’s speaking as someone who maimed a Druid on Blue. Expecting one pp per level is kind of unreasonable and was never what you got tipped on live. I mean hell for years on live most people tipped 10-15pp per port lol

[Baler]

IMO minimum of a pp per level is pretty ridiculous if you’re not on Blue. Depending on the class you could be level 60 and not have infinite amounts of plat on Green.

Ports are a privilege not a right.

If you can't afford 1p per level, you best start walking.

[cd288]

Ports are a privilege not a right.

If you can't afford 1p per level, you best start walking.

Thanks Mr. alt right

[Baler]

Thanks Mr. alt right

Your mind is so small you need to categorize people in order to make sense of the world around you. Fun fact, I'm not alt right, bad try.

I've paid 1p per level for every port, for every character I had on p99. Special cases I'd pay 100p+ such as picking me up or picking up another person at a ring.

Being an Adult is not difficult if you're mature and make smart choices. Such as having a budget and plan for the future.

[cd288]

Your mind is so small you need to categorize people in order to make sense of the world around you. Fun fact, I'm not alt right, bad try.

I've paid 1p per level for every port, for every character I had on p99. Special cases I'd pay 100p+ such as picking me up or picking up another person at a ring.

Being an Adult is not difficult if you're mature and make smart choices. Such as having a budget and plan for the future.

I can play pretend too it’s fun :)

[Baler]

I can play pretend too it’s fun :)

grow the fuck up dude

[Noren]

I'm level 60 and always pay around 30-40p for a port.
I tell how much I'll pay with my port request.
I've never had anyone decline this amount of plat...

[Indecisive]

IMO minimum of a pp per level is pretty ridiculous if you’re not on Blue. Depending on the class you could be level 60 and not have infinite amounts of plat on Green.

If I walk up to the WC Druid rings and you’re sitting there watching Netflix and spamming an /ooc about ports why should I pay you 60pp for clicking a button while you binge watch TV? I’m not saying I would stiff you but I think 30-35pp is totally reasonable.

Edit: and that’s speaking as someone who maimed a Druid on Blue. Expecting one pp per level is kind of unreasonable and was never what you got tipped on live. I mean hell for years on live most people tipped 10-15pp per port lol

This is why people stop porting. 1p per level is incredibly reasonable for all the time and effort I, or any other porter, is saving you - especially since a druid is going to toss you a SoW, aside from the lev and/or invis you may need as well. What does it matter what the porter is doing outside of the game? You're paying for the service, the same as you would a rez.

Project 1999 is not Live 1999. People have far more platinum on here than most ever did on Live, myself included. We know all the money-making spots now. It's not very difficult to accrue the amount of money needed to cover ports on the server. I did it twice as an ALS character without any problem - and if I couldn't, I took the boat.

Just my 2c.

[cd288]

This is why people stop porting. 1p per level is incredibly reasonable for all the time and effort I, or any other porter, is saving you - especially since a druid is going to toss you a SoW, aside from the lev and/or invis you may need as well. What does it matter what the porter is doing outside of the game? You're paying for the service, the same as you would a rez.

Project 1999 is not Live 1999. People have far more platinum on here than most ever did on Live, myself included. We know all the money-making spots now. It's not very difficult to accrue the amount of money needed to cover ports on the server. I did it twice as an ALS character without any problem - and if I couldn't, I took the boat.

Just my 2c.

To each their own I suppose. I find 30pp or so to be completely reasonable when I port people, and that’s on blue which has so much plat in circulation. I’m clicking a button while I’m semi AFK, I’m not working a full time job in game

[JDAm0nk]

As a new(er) player to P99 and someone who has only played on Green, being level 60 and only paying 30pp for a port is pretty stingy, IMO.

My main/highest level character is only 35 and I have ~3kpp in the bank. That is without doing any of the popular cash camps like Treants, OOT, or Sisters in LFay.

A level 60 could easily raise 100pp in a few minutes of play...

[cd288]

As a new(er) player to P99 and someone who has only played on Green, being level 60 and only paying 30pp for a port is pretty stingy, IMO.

My main/highest level character is only 35 and I have ~3kpp in the bank. That is without doing any of the popular cash camps like Treants, OOT, or Sisters in LFay.

A level 60 could easily raise 100pp in a few minutes of play...

You’ve never played a warrior lol

[ashentco]

Apparently according to this thread I've been stiffing people with 25pp everywhere I go because I rarely have more than 100pp to my name anyway.

Also idk about this whole "I'm lvl 35 and have 3k pp" stuff. I've played melee every char I've ever had in EQ and in my experience it's incredibly hard to end up with money until you're maxed and have some good drops from camps. While leveling, you're trying to get a few hundred plat to find some str gear and then you're back to just exping. Money making is a conscious decision that many people just do not do.

But yeah I'm sure the guy who clicked 3 buttons to get me to wc is really mad he only got 25pp for it.

[guggle]

He spent 3 clicks. But more importantly, he spent his time shuttling you around instead of being at a camp or leveling.

If you can't tip fairly, nothing is more classic than walking.

[JDAm0nk]

Apparently according to this thread I've been stiffing people with 25pp everywhere I go because I rarely have more than 100pp to my name anyway.

Also idk about this whole "I'm lvl 35 and have 3k pp" stuff. I've played melee every char I've ever had in EQ and in my experience it's incredibly hard to end up with money until you're maxed and have some good drops from camps. While leveling, you're trying to get a few hundred plat to find some str gear and then you're back to just exping. Money making is a conscious decision that many people just do not do.

But yeah I'm sure the guy who clicked 3 buttons to get me to wc is really mad he only got 25pp for it.

I definitely agree there is a difference between melee and casters when it comes down to money.

Saying that, the 3kpp is on a Shaman that is equipped with a full set of Banded Armor, 2x 5ac/55hp rings, 2x 3+ WIS earrings, and still rocking a Staff of the Observers that I picked up for 200pp before Kunark was released.

So it was not meant as some sort of a flex. I'm less than 10% towards being able to purchase a JBB at level 45 (which is what I'm saving up for) and I don't even want to think of how far off I am from acquiring a Fungi Tunic or Staff.

Obviously, although it's slower going, my need for equipment is less necessary than melee classes. But still, I've had people attempt to give me 5pp for SoWing them. If you're able to obtain level 60 on a melee class, I have a hard time understanding how you wouldn't have friends or guild mates willing to port you around for free and/or 60pp to spare. Again, just my (newb) perspective...

[ashentco]

Obviously, although it's slower going, my need for equipment is less necessary than melee classes. But still, I've had people attempt to give me 5pp for SoWing them. If you're able to obtain level 60 on a melee class, I have a hard time understanding how you wouldn't have friends or guild mates willing to port you around for free and/or 60pp to spare. Again, just my (newb) perspective...

I can agree with you there, but I don't think anyone mentioned being level 60 in here. Like I have a lvl 50 rogue in banded etc and 50pp is a hell of a lot of money to me. I enjoy tipping and I've always thought I'm pretty generous I just didn't know 50pp was expected of me.

[chevy79bu]

I can agree with you there, but I don't think anyone mentioned being level 60 in here. Like I have a lvl 50 rogue in banded etc and 50pp is a hell of a lot of money to me. I enjoy tipping and I've always thought I'm pretty generous I just didn't know 50pp was expected of me.

I have had a druid in DaP for quite a few years now. I dont expect anything at all in the way of tips from anyone on the server. I guess this is why I am never disgruntled or disappointed in the tips I may and sometimes may not receive. If someone tosses me 100pp or 5pp they get the same "Thank you!" And "Have a great day!". But that's just me...

[strongNpretty]

1pp per level gets my vote. Doesn't matter if i'm clicking 1 button or 20.

You're telling me i should accept even less money to POTG people because it's less clicks than a port takes?

However, let it be noted- I don't mind 30p for a port!

[Argonos]

I mean, either charge a price, or accept that a tip can vary. I don't really see what the disconnect is. Mentioning what people "should" tip is based on your views and experiences. That doesn't make it so.

[cd288]

1pp per level gets my vote. Doesn't matter if i'm clicking 1 button or 20.

You're telling me i should accept even less money to POTG people because it's less clicks than a port takes?

However, let it be noted- I don't mind 30p for a port!

Tbh I think potg is worth way more than a port lol

[strongNpretty]

Tbh I think potg is worth way more than a port lol

I would agree. I'm just responding to the- "all you do is click a button" argument. Don't kick up dust just to kick up dust cd288.

[cd288]

I would agree. I'm just responding to the- "all you do is click a button" argument. Don't kick up dust just to kick up dust cd288.

Potg is 4 times the mana of a port and has many great benefits. Not really comparable in terms of now the potg is causing you to have downtime that you should also be compensated for. When porting I’m rarely LOM because of the amount of time it takes to find another customer. I’ve never felt stiffed if someone tips me 30pp for a port at level 60.

[strongNpretty]

Potg is 4 times the mana of a port and has many great benefits. Not really comparable in terms of now the potg is causing you to have downtime that you should also be compensated for. When porting I’m rarely LOM because of the amount of time it takes to find another customer. I’ve never felt stiffed if someone tips me 30pp for a port at level 60.

Shhh, stop talking now please.

[cd288]

Shhh, stop talking now please.

Standard cop out lol

[strongNpretty]

Standard cop out lol

Quit bein an obnoxious cunt.

[Zarakk]

I do not understand the level of insults being thrown here. People are allowed to hold different opinions... but ignoring that...

When it comes to in-game support of others, people can charge what they like for their time - a lot, a little or nothing at all. Each person can set their charges as they wish, and each other person can accept that or not.... just like in "real life". Opinions are allowed to vary.

However, if you have an "expectation" of a certain level of payment, clearly state it in your advertisement and then no-one can complain. There is no "standard charge", even if one guild or one group of people are trying to impose one, because others do not have to accept that assumption.

So if you advertise "offering ports, tips accepted" when you actually EXPECT to receive a minimum amount of X (or X per level), then you only have yourself to blame when you get something less than you expected. Communication helps solve any issues.

Personally, I think many folks charge too much, but that is their decision to make not mine. I run and take the boats quite a lot. Each to their own.

[cd288]

Quit bein an obnoxious cunt.

Whoa this isn’t rnf my dude can’t use that language here

[strongNpretty]

Whoa this isn’t rnf my dude can’t use that language here

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[fortior]

1pp/level isn't a hard rule, just a guideline. If you have trouble coming up with that kind of money as let's say a ~30+ player, there's bigger issues going on, and nobody's going to fault a level 11 player for not tipping exactly 11pp.

If you can't or don't want to tip that much, just ask whether there's a favor you can do in return. Perhaps the DaP druid has an alt in need of a quest item which drops in a place you like to camp. Or maybe you're a rogue and he's got a corpse which needs to be retrieved. By immediately taking the antagonistic stance of refusing to pay for a 'simple' service or paying less than the generally accepted rate you are not only cheating yourself out of prompt service in the future, but you are also cheating yourself out of meaningful social interaction with other p99 players.

P99 isn't a game with a million players where what you do doesn't have consequences down the line, good or bad. Be the best person you can be and you will be rewarded, be a bad person (even when it seemingly doesn't matter) and you will miss out on some future opportunities at some future point without even knowing about it.

[Indecisive]

However, if you have an "expectation" of a certain level of payment, clearly state it in your advertisement and then no-one can complain.

"Dial A Port" characters are not allowed to set a rate; or at least, they weren't when I was porting. DaP is really the only game in town if you want to make money porting. You could choose to go solo as a porter, but you'll make far less money, and you don't make that much already.

I'll just end this by saying: anyone that thinks 1p per level is an unreasonable sum, consider the reason you want a port in the first place. You're trying to save time. Spend a week taking the boat or running from zone to zone, trying to get to groups you were invited to before they replace you, and ask yourself by the end of that week how much your time is worth.

[cd288]

"Dial A Port" characters are not allowed to set a rate; or at least, they weren't when I was porting. DaP is really the only game in town if you want to make money porting. You could choose to go solo as a porter, but you'll make far less money, and you don't make that much already.

I'll just end this by saying: anyone that thinks 1p per level is an unreasonable sum, consider the reason you want a port in the first place. You're trying to save time. Spend a week taking the boat or running from zone to zone, trying to get to groups you were invited to before they replace you, and ask yourself by the end of that week how much your time is worth.

Meh not really. The amount of money I made solo porting vs being in DAP was roughly equivalent. DAP amount had a slight edge but it wasn’t significant. Plenty of people will send tells to random Druids asking for ports, and if you know the right places to be oocing you’ll do very well as a solo porter (e.g. OT ramp, dungeons where people commonly need ports out, EC instead of WC to snag the people heading to WC to try and find a port before they get there, etc).

[Zarakk]

"Dial A Port" characters are not allowed to set a rate; or at least, they weren't when I was porting.


Any guild's internal policies are for that guild to define. No disrespect. Peace.


DaP is really the only game in town if you want to make money porting. You could choose to go solo as a porter, but you'll make far less money, and you don't make that much already.


You sound like an officer or recruiter for that guild to be making such a blatantly biased and untrue statement *grin*.

There are far more independent people who give and/or sell ports to other players than there are members of just one guild. Some of them are doing pretty well. Perhaps you do not know them, but not every druid or wizard has to be a member of that one specific guild to make money porting. Come on now, you know this.


I'll just end this by saying: anyone that thinks 1p per level is an unreasonable sum, consider the reason you want a port in the first place. You're trying to save time. Spend a week taking the boat or running from zone to zone, trying to get to groups you were invited to before they replace you, and ask yourself by the end of that week how much your time is worth.


That is one way to view it, and not unreasonable, but it is not the only way to view it, and people will and do have differing views. Consider, if you will, the need to meet basic advertising standards legislation, so to speak.

- If someone advertises "Porting to druid rings, charging 1pp/level", then that's fine, it's a clear statement and totally fair. Players who want to take them up on it should meet the requested fee or make some other arrangement. If they accept it and then refuse to make the agreed payment, then you have every right to complain and make an issue with that person.

- But if someone advertises "Porting to druid rings, tips accepted" or some variant thereof, then that means what it says. A "tip" is literally whatever the giver wants to give, whether that be 30p, 10p, 1p or diddly squat. If you ported a level 60 and you in your head wanted 60p but with your mouth you just asked for a "tip", and they gave you 10p, who's fault is that? You got what you asked for, not what you thought about, and it would be your own fault.

I mean this respectfully: If you want to be paid X, say so, explicitly, and avoid this confusion.

[Indecisive]

You sound like an officer or recruiter for that guild to be making such a blatantly biased and untrue statement *grin*.

There are far more independent people who give and/or sell ports to other players than there are members of just one guild. Some of them are doing pretty well. Perhaps you do not know them, but not every druid or wizard has to be a member of that one specific guild to make money porting. Come on now, you know this.

First, I'm not an officer in DaP - I'm not even in the guild, and haven't been for over two years. That's why I've prefaced things with "when I was in the guild", etc.

Second, this is a very confusing response. I didn't say you couldn't make money outside of DaP - only that you'd make less. Having that tag up allows players to quickly and easily find a porter, outside of the porting highways like Skyfire ramp, WC rings, etc. You'll always get more tells with DaP, period. More tells means more ports, which means more money. This isn't even debatable, it's an objective truth.

That is one way to view it, and not unreasonable, but it is not the only way to view it, and people will and do have differing views. Consider, if you will, the need to meet basic advertising standards legislation, so to speak.

- If someone advertises "Porting to druid rings, charging 1pp/level", then that's fine, it's a clear statement and totally fair. Players who want to take them up on it should meet the requested fee or make some other arrangement. If they accept it and then refuse to make the agreed payment, then you have every right to complain and make an issue with that person.

- But if someone advertises "Porting to druid rings, tips accepted" or some variant thereof, then that means what it says. A "tip" is literally whatever the giver wants to give, whether that be 30p, 10p, 1p or diddly squat. If you ported a level 60 and you in your head wanted 60p but with your mouth you just asked for a "tip", and they gave you 10p, who's fault is that? You got what you asked for, not what you thought about, and it would be your own fault.

I mean this respectfully: If you want to be paid X, say so, explicitly, and avoid this confusion.

I've already explained why DaP porters can't do that. Obviously, freelance porters can demand whatever they like.

Fortunately, most of the players aren't like you or some of the other posters in this thread, and are happy to tip the expected amount, or beyond, because they understand how valuable porters are. If you want to be the dude at the bar or restaurant that wants to pretend like he doesn't understand how tipping works, and what amount is expected, that's up to you. I'd just add you to ignore and you can run your ass to the Hole. I bet you'll need a port before I'll need anything from you.

[cd288]

First, I'm not an officer in DaP - I'm not even in the guild, and haven't been for over two years. That's why I've prefaced things with "when I was in the guild", etc.

Second, this is a very confusing response. I didn't say you couldn't make money outside of DaP - only that you'd make less. Having that tag up allows players to quickly and easily find a porter, outside of the porting highways like Skyfire ramp, WC rings, etc. You'll always get more tells with DaP, period. More tells means more ports, which means more money. This isn't even debatable, it's an objective truth.



I've already explained why DaP porters can't do that. Obviously, freelance porters can demand whatever they like.

Fortunately, most of the players aren't like you or some of the other posters in this thread, and are happy to tip the expected amount, or beyond, because they understand how valuable porters are. If you want to be the dude at the bar or restaurant that wants to pretend like he doesn't understand how tipping works, and what amount is expected, that's up to you. I'd just add you to ignore and you can run your ass to the Hole. I bet you'll need a port before I'll need anything from you.

The DAP biased guys chooses to ignore the fact that I barely made more money in DAP than solo porting. I literally did almost the same number of ports per hour. The difference is solo porting you have to be more active about it, whereas DAP is good if you just want to watch Netflix and wait for people to send you a tell and then click a single button before going semi afk again. I actually think solo porters deserve more than DAP does just because they actually have to put in effort lol

[Zarakk]

I've already explained why DaP porters can't do that. Obviously, freelance porters can demand whatever they like.


And I already said, this is their choice.

But if their guild policy is to not state fees upfront, then they must also accept the consequences of that policy. If this is proving a source of problems for some druids/wizards, then perhaps they are with the wrong guild.


Fortunately, most of the players aren't like you or some of the other posters in this thread, and are happy to tip the expected amount, or beyond, because they understand how valuable porters are. If you want to be the dude at the bar or restaurant that wants to pretend like he doesn't understand how tipping works, and what amount is expected, that's up to you.


Yes, you are correct, that is up to me.

More generally, it is up to every individual player. You cannot impose an artificial rule based on what you think on every other player. If someone wants a "tip", they are saying they will accept whatever I think it is worth, not what they think, and my view might be very different from theirs.

Don't get me wrong, I have tipped half a stack of peridots to folks in the past, for things they did for me. They didn't ask for it. That was just what I felt what they did was worth at that time.


I'd just add you to ignore and you can run your ass to the Hole. I bet you'll need a port before I'll need anything from you.


I only joined this server 3 months ago. When I was in my first couple of weeks, and saw a DAP druid advertising ports for tips, I sent him a tell asking what he meant by tips, and he said "if you don't pay me at least 30p you go on ignore". I wasn't even looking for a port, I had just sent a polite tell asking for information. I was about level 10, and I had about 2p to my name. I thought "what an arse" and didn't speak to him further.

This is the first time I have heard something similar since, and I react the same way now. So feel free to add me to your ignore list, my character name is clearly stated in my signature (unlike you, hiding behind a forum name).

You think I do not "appreciate the service you offer".
I think you are just promoting a "greedy" attitude and then defending "deliberate vagueness" so as to try to hide that.

Most people I have met here are nicer than this. I do things for others without a need to always be excessively paid.

I guess we live in different worlds. Each to their own.

[cadoipi]

Some clarifications as a recent member of DaP:

1) DaP members are allowed to set their own rates as long as they are stated up front. After the port happens the porter needs to accept what is offered. When I was in DaP I would ask for payment before porting people (it is more efficient due to the difference in loading times, the congestion at the landing location, and needing to invis baddies). In the event that someone offered what I thought was low I would ask them to kick in a bit more. This created an issue only a handful of times and I was happy to add them to my ignore list. I would use my judgement in doing this, eg 20pp from an unguilded level 50 melee class in banded was fine, but I would ask for more from a level 50 in a raiding guild with a fungi.

2) The reason most DaP don't list an explicit price is because some people pay over pp/level and some people pay peanuts. If an explicit price was asked for the generous people would mostly pay list price and penny pinchers would refuse to pay, which would mean a drop in revenue for the porter. Not having a listed price also allows flexibility, for instance if someone was short on plat, then I would often port them and ask that they ping me next time they were near a spire so you could pay me then.

3) If you usually pay below pp/level, don't think it is fine just because no one ever complained. If you are paying after the port, then DaPers are not allowed to complain. Also your low payments are being subsidized by the more generous members of the server. If everyone was cheap, then DaP would have a severe lack of porters or would need to start having set prices.

[fortior]

Also, if you can't pay 1pp/level you're a loser

[cd288]

And I already said, this is their choice.

But if their guild policy is to not state fees upfront, then they must also accept the consequences of that policy. If this is proving a source of problems for some druids/wizards, then perhaps they are with the wrong guild.



Yes, you are correct, that is up to me.

More generally, it is up to every individual player. You cannot impose an artificial rule based on what you think on every other player. If someone wants a "tip", they are saying they will accept whatever I think it is worth, not what they think, and my view might be very different from theirs.

Don't get me wrong, I have tipped half a stack of peridots to folks in the past, for things they did for me. They didn't ask for it. That was just what I felt what they did was worth at that time.



I only joined this server 3 months ago. When I was in my first couple of weeks, and saw a DAP druid advertising ports for tips, I sent him a tell asking what he meant by tips, and he said "if you don't pay me at least 30p you go on ignore". I wasn't even looking for a port, I had just sent a polite tell asking for information. I was about level 10, and I had about 2p to my name. I thought "what an arse" and didn't speak to him further.

This is the first time I have heard something similar since, and I react the same way now. So feel free to add me to your ignore list, my character name is clearly stated in my signature (unlike you, hiding behind a forum name).

You think I do not "appreciate the service you offer".
I think you are just promoting a "greedy" attitude and then defending "deliberate vagueness" so as to try to hide that.

Most people I have met here are nicer than this. I do things for others without a need to always be excessively paid.

I guess we live in different worlds. Each to their own.

Don't worry about the guy you're arguing with. I have met some good/nice DAP people, but a lot of them tend to be more like the people you described in your story. Half the time they don't ooc for ports they just sit watching TV until someone sends them a tell and then they click a button and they think they are God's gift to the P99 server as though there aren't an influx of Druids in general. I have way more respect for solo porters who are frequently jumping between zones, actively finding customers, etc.

[Noren]

Ench who read this thread : start to charge 1pp per level for c/c2 ;)

[Melodyy]

The DAP biased guys chooses to ignore the fact that I barely made more money in DAP than solo porting. I literally did almost the same number of ports per hour. The difference is solo porting you have to be more active about it, whereas DAP is good if you just want to watch Netflix and wait for people to send you a tell and then click a single button before going semi afk again. I actually think solo porters deserve more than DAP does just because they actually have to put in effort lol

I am in DaP but not an officer. Been in it for years. There are so many inaccuracies in what you write here that it would be silly to address them all. Give it up.

[radbeard]

Just to catch up, this whole thread about good vs evil is basically people trying to clarify what the least amount is that they can pay for a port and not feel bad right?

[cd288]

I am in DaP but not an officer. Been in it for years. There are so many inaccuracies in what you write here that it would be silly to address them all. Give it up.

Really? Let’s see about the assertions I made:

1. I made almost the same amount of money solo porting as when I was in DAP. Not inaccurate. Not even sure how you would tell me my personal experience is inaccurate lol.

2. Solo porters generally have to be more active if they want to make money. They have to ooc all the time, port around to areas where they think they will be in demand, etc. Whereas DAP if you have the tag on you have more flexibility to just park yourself at like the WC Druid rings and wait for people to call you like an Uber. That’s not inaccurate that’s just simple fact. If it was inaccurate then there would be no point to being in DAP; the whole point of DAP is that people can search you and send you a tell to port them…ergo you don’t have to actively seek out customers.

[Mazoku]

This is INCORRECT. At Dial a Port we all fly the same flag but each porter makes their own prices. We DO NOT port for tips, this is a business. Also mana=time=money. You are actively paying for someone's TIME to port you. Something that is non refundable and is valuable. 50 plat a port will be standard come Velious and EJ/Skyfire are 100 each due to safety and the fact that it is TWO ports. (Potg will be 100 minimum in Velious.)



"Dial A Port" characters are not allowed to set a rate; or at least, they weren't when I was porting. DaP is really the only game in town if you want to make money porting. You could choose to go solo as a porter, but you'll make far less money, and you don't make that much already.

I'll just end this by saying: anyone that thinks 1p per level is an unreasonable sum, consider the reason you want a port in the first place. You're trying to save time. Spend a week taking the boat or running from zone to zone, trying to get to groups you were invited to before they replace you, and ask yourself by the end of that week how much your time is worth.

[cd288]

This is INCORRECT. At Dial a Port we all fly the same flag but each porter makes their own prices. We DO NOT port for tips, this is a business. Also mana=time=money. You are actively paying for someone's TIME to port you. Something that is non refundable and is valuable. 50 plat a port will be standard come Velious and EJ/Skyfire are 100 each due to safety and the fact that it is TWO ports. (Potg will be 100 minimum in Velious.)

Lol

[Faumumno]

Hi, everyone!
I wanted to confirm some details and provide illumination on others for our guild. :) We are not the only or best option for ports and don’t claim those statements. We are just one option for ports and are appreciative of having the support of the community for all these years.

We do require every member to create a forum account and read and accept our rules before joining our guild. With the absence of an in-game guild management system, this allows us to keep track of our members. For those interested in joining Dial a Port, please follow the instructions on our website, https://dialaport.freeforums.net/.

We move everyone up to officer status in-game to help with recruiting. It doesn't indicate an actual guild officer role. We just want it easy to invite new members, as long as invite guidelines are followed. Please visit, https://dialaport.freeforums.net/thread/3517, for a current list of our guild leaders and senior officers.

In terms of payment for ports, while we are we are a pay-for-port service; we do not and have never had a guild-wide required minimum payment. Having that said; each member can set their own price for ports, especially if it involves a dangerous port location and/or requires the porter to travel across great distances. It’s imperative to know each member’s choice to require a fee, due to the above mentioned conditions, is not and should not be indicative of a guild policy. Please visit, https://dialaport.freeforums.net/page/rules, for a list of our guild rules.

It is hopeful the information I’ve provided has been helpful. Be safe and happy porting!

Cheers,

Faumumno
Guild Leader
Dial a Port (Green)

[alphys]

I always pretend I'm on a corpse run and probably have 600+ ports in a few years. Thanks for all the hard work. Here's a tip; Get a REAL job!

[Faumumno]

Hi, everyone!
I wanted to confirm some details and provide illumination on others for our guild. :) We are not the only or best option for ports and don’t claim those statements. We are just one option for ports and are appreciative of having the support of the community for all these years.

We do require every member to create a forum account and read and accept our rules before joining our guild. With the absence of an in-game guild management system, this allows us to keep track of our members. For those interested in joining Dial a Port, please follow the instructions on our website, https://dialaport.freeforums.net/.

We move everyone up to officer status in-game to help with recruiting. It doesn't indicate an actual guild officer role. We just want it easy to invite new members, as long as invite guidelines are followed. Please visit, https://dialaport.freeforums.net/thread/3517, for a current list of our guild leaders and officers.

In terms of payment for ports, while we are we are a pay-for-port service; we do not and have never had a guild-wide required minimum payment. Having that said; each member can set their own price for ports, especially if it involves a dangerous port location and/or requires the porter to travel across great distances. It’s imperative to know each member’s choice to require a fee, due to the above mentioned conditions, is not and should not be indicative of a guild policy. Please visit, https://dialaport.freeforums.net/page/rules, for a list of our guild rules.

It is hopeful the information I’ve provided has been helpful. Be safe and happy porting!

Best,

Faumumno
Guild Leader
Dial a Port (Green)

[Tupakk]

Wow sooooo much happening in this thread. I love that the forums have finally realized we are a thing after almost 2 years in the making.

That being said, the rules are the same as blue and green, we have required our personal forums to be registered since 2017 anyone that hasn’t shame on you and we will find out eventually 😝

As far as pay for ports our motto and Rule on the matter is don’t be greedy. You are your own boss if you want to set a price we won’t stop you unless we feel it’s greedy and again shame on you and we will find out eventually 😝

As far as solo porters we welcome the competition and hope they find as much plat as we do, however we know as well as everyone else on the server the tag helps 100x more than without it and shame that you don’t wear it and we will find and recruit you eventually. 😝

As far as the Netflix and chill idea if anyone holds a DaP tag they very well know that there is very little time to watch tv and port. A real dapper knows their worth and will be dedicated to porting every minute their tag is up. If they are tagged and chillin they know the rules and they will be caught and you guessed it we will find out eventually.

And lastly if anyone doesn’t know the rules well we have them listed on our website. https://dialaport.freeforums.net/page/rules As always if anyone has questions comments or concerns we have that on our forums as well https://dialaport.freeforums.net/board/35/issues-concerns

If you want direct conversation you can message me via discord on the p99 discord and I would be happy to chat about your concerns. If my messages and conversations aren’t enough I will gladly pass you on to the person we have put in charge of Green so as you can voice your concerns further.

Finally and I can’t believe I’m saying this @Baler you have turned a leaf and I’m had that after so many years you have come to see the light.

[cd288]

When I was in DAP there wasn’t a rule that you had to be actively trying to find customers if your tag was up, you just had to take someone if they messaged you. So you could be exping or just sitting there watching Netflix waiting for someone to send you a tell, you didn’t have to be porting around to different zones and advertising in ooc

[cadoipi]

When I was in DAP there wasn’t a rule that you had to be actively trying to find customers if your tag was up, you just had to take someone if they messaged you. So you could be exping or just sitting there watching Netflix waiting for someone to send you a tell, you didn’t have to be porting around to different zones and advertising in ooc

The rule on the website is: "Stay /anon if you are not able to fulfil a port request as your top priority especially if AFK, have many ports queued or engaged in XPing/camping that you cannot instantly leave."

This is consistent with what Tupakk said and it does not require you to be actively seeking out ports if your tag is up. For instance if there was lull in porting but I expected it to pick up soonish, then I would exp by root-rotting mobs near my bind point with my tag up. I wouldn't go below 30-40% mana and the moment I got a tell from a person at a druid ring, I would go pick them up even if it meant leaving before killing the mob. Another thing you can do is work on tradeskills while waiting for port traffic. All that matters is that you are paying attention to tells and willing to drop whatever you are doing to go pick someone up.

[fortior]

Who cares, you're a druid, not a saint. What is some level 30 idiot lizard who got stranded going to do, report you to the chief druid?

[dcortez]

I always pretend I'm on a corpse run and probably have 600+ ports in a few years. Thanks for all the hard work. Here's a tip; Get a REAL job!

I get the feeling no one cares about you in game or RL, enjoy your real job




The rule on the website is: "Stay /anon if you are not able to fulfil a port request as your top priority especially if AFK, have many ports queued or engaged in XPing/camping that you cannot instantly leave."

How do porters lfg with anon up?

[Cen]

I never tip more then 50 but I will never ask a porter to move away from a ring or spire and I will always wait until I'm standing at it before making a request at all.

[Sinlaria]

lvl 34 druid looking for invite :)

[Melodyy]

I get the feeling no one cares about you in game or RL, enjoy your real job






How do porters lfg with anon up?

Anon can be off when LFG

[Morratiz]

Former DaP druid here. Tip what you can afford. Dont let weirdos tip shame you. If you're really underpaying you'll get ignored. This tip shaming shit is just weird to me. Go do something else besides porting if the income isnt up to your standards for profit due to too many people underpaying.

[tadkins]

I always pretend I'm on a corpse run and probably have 600+ ports in a few years. Thanks for all the hard work. Here's a tip; Get a REAL job!

You don't have to strip to get the attention of porters. Most of us will help you if you just ask. :)

[Nilstoniakrath]

I always pretend I'm on a corpse run and probably have 600+ ports in a few years. Thanks for all the hard work. Here's a tip; Get a REAL job!

Oops sorry I just ported you to Cazic Thule when you wanted Steamfont, and it is a shame I just went linkdead

[cd288]

Oops sorry I just ported you to Cazic Thule when you wanted Steamfont, and it is a shame I just went linkdead

Can wizards Port to Steamfont?

[Tethler]

How do porters lfg with anon up?

When my blue druid was in DaP years ago, I just ooc'd in zone that I was lfg

[tadkins]

Can wizards Port to Steamfont?

They can't, it would be Gfay.

That said I thought the Skyfire was our "fuck you" port spell. xD