100% of the shots you don’t take!

[Grumph]

It’s time to call a spade a spade.

Rolling for ring war - has this been a boon to server health?

A great equalizer?

Finally, a chance for the little guy to get a piece of the pie?

Well let me tell you!

Im sure your assuming “well maybe some casual guild hasn’t won YET - but if they keep showing up to roll and keep trying, it’ll all even out eventually! Utopia can’t be realized in a few short months you know!”

And you’d be wrong.

Fun fact: how many guilds have sent reps to roll for ring 10s?

Seriously? 3.

Which 3? Check the tov bag limits channel. It’s all those neck beards.

Not. One. Single. Legitimate. Casual. Fun. Friendly. Underdog. Guild has thus far even bothered to engage with our current roll off meta.

Don’t get me wrong - I wouldn’t have seen this coming either.

But looking at the results, now that they’re in?

Rolling for ring wars is not actually making any content more accessible to anyone.

It’s simply letting neck beard guilds who compete against each other for everything... not compete on this one thing. While still monopolizing the content between themselves.


PS: to all the casual guilds who’ve voted for whatever Jutebox has aggressively coordinated with you. I have to ask: is this what you thought you were getting out of the bargain? Watching Littens take all the ring 10s and not share any with you? Because that doesn’t look like to me how friends should treat each other.

Ref: 14559

[Kaitainz]

Shake it like a Salt Shaker ! ROFL

[Yinein]

No one cares who wins raids 6 years into velious. Hope that helps.

[Horza]

I am Jutebox.

[UrkTheSlayer]

This content sucks. I can’t even tell what’s going on because I can’t get over the poor form in its presentation.

[Croco]

I won the roll and got my ring, worked for me!

[Grapeape]

It’s time to call a spade a spade.

Rolling for ring war - has this been a boon to server health?

A great equalizer?

Finally, a chance for the little guy to get a piece of the pie?

Well let me tell you!

Im sure your assuming “well maybe some casual guild hasn’t won YET - but if they keep showing up to roll and keep trying, it’ll all even out eventually! Utopia can’t be realized in a few short months you know!”

And you’d be wrong.

Fun fact: how many guilds have sent reps to roll for ring 10s?

Seriously? 3.

Which 3? Check the tov bag limits channel. It’s all those neck beards.

Not. One. Single. Legitimate. Casual. Fun. Friendly. Underdog. Guild has thus far even bothered to engage with our current roll off meta.

Don’t get me wrong - I wouldn’t have seen this coming either.

But looking at the results, now that they’re in?

Rolling for ring wars is not actually making any content more accessible to anyone.

It’s simply letting neck beard guilds who compete against each other for everything... not compete on this one thing. While still monopolizing the content between themselves.


PS: to all the casual guilds who’ve voted for whatever Jutebox has aggressively coordinated with you. I have to ask: is this what you thought you were getting out of the bargain? Watching Littens take all the ring 10s and not share any with you? Because that doesn’t look like to me how friends should treat each other.

Ref: 14559


Rolling for ring 10 isn't for casuals. It's to stop you full immersion neckbeard types from autofiring.

[Allishia]

Are there any other guilds besides the 3 that can even do ring war? It's not that easy esp if under geared etc...the first few waves are but last are tough...

[starkind]

https://i.imgur.com/nGYWpkr.png

[k9quaint]

Rolling for ring 10 isn't for casuals. It's to stop you full immersion neckbeard types from autofiring.

Truth

[reznor_]

Rolling for ring 10 isn't for casuals. It's to stop you full immersion neckbeard types from autofiring.

[Ennewi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_hSC4-Ar2c

[Bhairava]

Not. One. Single. Legitimate. Casual. Fun. Friendly. Underdog. Guild has thus far even bothered to engage with our current roll off meta.

[Grumph]

Are there any other guilds besides the 3 that can even do ring war? It's not that easy esp if under geared etc...the first few waves are but last are tough...

Wow. So acording to Riot: some content isn’t meant for casual players with a family and a job.


Only 3 guilds attempting ring war? Working as intended!

Quick Q though...

Did you clear this public statement with Jutebox?

I’m just wondering because... this sounds like a direct counter-narrative and potentially contradictory to his carefully crafted diplomatic strategy?

[Gravydoo II]

People who use the bathroom at their desks understand this stuff. I do not.

[Arvan]

Imagine Jutebox living rent free in your head

[myrddraal]

Wow. So acording to Riot: some content isn’t meant for casual players with a family and a job.


Only 3 guilds attempting ring war? Working as intended!

Quick Q though...

Did you clear this public statement with Jutebox?

I’m just wondering because... this sounds like a direct counter-narrative and potentially contradictory to his carefully crafted diplomatic strategy?

I love how you made a complete straw man argument out of what Alli asked. Asking if they can do it =/= only those 3 can do it. In the next draft I hope one of the other guilds does take RWs for a week and gains the confidence they need to show up to the rolls, but 3 weeks off if they fail is a pretty heavy penalty and PROBABLY what keeps most people from trying it.

[Grumph]

I love how you made a complete straw man argument out of what Alli asked. Asking if they can do it =/= only those 3 can do it. In the next draft I hope one of the other guilds does take RWs for a week and gains the confidence they need to show up to the rolls, but 3 weeks off if they fail is a pretty heavy penalty and PROBABLY what keeps most people from trying it.

Such powerful logic as you wield!

arguing that guilds who aren’t even trying to do something the might not be able to do...

are afraid of being punished for trying...

with the very grave punishment...

of not being able to try again for three weeks.

But Jude, I’m starting to think you could make it as a full time motivational speaker with messages like this! “Meh, the systems against you, risks too big, don’t bother trying, or you’ll be sorry you did!”


TLDR:

Can’t try?
Wont try.
Bc if they try and fail.
They can’t try again for 3 weeks.

Logic.

[Ennewi]

I’m starting to think you could make it as a full time motivational speaker with messages like this!

This assumes that they, or anyone else in the other guilds, still have teeth though.

[titanshub]

Maybe you can adapt your unemployed autofire bots to just post more low effort RnF threads about Jutebox.

[Lynch]

We should just start deleting content when people make too big of a fuss about it, that way you won't have to worry about muh pixels.

[greasemonk]

Grumph, I think I speak for Jesus and everyone else here:

Stop fucking putting each sentence on its own line.

Fuck you.

See how awful this look?

[Bach]

Such powerful logic as you wield!

arguing that guilds who aren’t even trying to do something the might not be able to do...

are afraid of being punished for trying...

with the very grave punishment...

of not being able to try again for three weeks.

But Jude, I’m starting to think you could make it as a full time motivational speaker with messages like this! “Meh, the systems against you, risks too big, don’t bother trying, or you’ll be sorry you did!”


TLDR:

Can’t try?
Wont try.
Bc if they try and fail.
They can’t try again for 3 weeks.

Logic.
What's stopping anyone from trying?

[Detoxx]

I love how you made a complete straw man argument out of what Alli asked. Asking if they can do it =/= only those 3 can do it. In the next draft I hope one of the other guilds does take RWs for a week and gains the confidence they need to show up to the rolls, but 3 weeks off if they fail is a pretty heavy penalty and PROBABLY what keeps most people from trying it.

So they dont want to try cause theyre afraid of 3 weeks off when theyve had 250 weeks off since the Velious release?

Doesnt make sense -- They dont try so the 3 week penalty isnt a deterrent for them since they are in the same boat they were before they tried anyways.

[Grumph]

Maybe you can adapt your unemployed autofire bots to just post more low effort RnF threads about Jutebox.

Hey Spacepope!

Was the promotion of a player using the name “Ngar” done under your tenure as guild leader or Jutebox’s?


I’m personally curious who choose to make the character “Ngar” a named representative of y’all’s guild.


I’d also like to know what kind of message you feel is being conveyed to the overall p99 community by your guilds promotion of the name “Ngar.”

[greasemonk]

So they dont want to try cause theyre afraid of 3 weeks off when theyve had 250 weeks off since the Velious release?

Doesnt make sense -- They dont try so the 3 week penalty isnt a deterrent for them since they are in the same boat they were before they tried anyways.

This mother fucker needs Jesus.

[Pulgasari]

Hey Spacepope!

Was the promotion of a player using the name “Ngar” done under your tenure as guild leader or Jutebox’s?


I’m personally curious who choose to make the character “Ngar” a named representative of y’all’s guild.


I’d also like to know what kind of message you feel is being conveyed to the overall p99 community by your guilds promotion of the name “Ngar.”

uWG4_kfsycA

[Arvan]

Post how many ring wars you have failed below ↓

[Croco]

Hey Spacepope!

Was the promotion of a player using the name “Ngar” done under your tenure as guild leader or Jutebox’s?


I’m personally curious who choose to make the character “Ngar” a named representative of y’all’s guild.


I’d also like to know what kind of message you feel is being conveyed to the overall p99 community by your guilds promotion of the name “Ngar.”

You can tell how absolutely savage that Spacepope reply was by the fact that the OP creates a random strawman argument that has nothing to do with this thread whatsoever. OP I'm not sure you want to bring up veiled accusations of racism when there are actual confirmed racists in your guild with the screen shots to back up the claims.

[Bhairava]

im gonn auto fire that ring turn in and u wont catch me

im gonn auto-roll that ring turn in and u wont catch me

im gonn use my latent psychic abilities to manipuylate u into giving me ring 10 u wont catch me

im gonn ascend out this world wit bis gear n enter anotheder realm of gaming entirely u wont catch me

[Grumph]

You can tell how absolutely savage that Spacepope reply was by the fact that the OP creates a random strawman argument that has nothing to do with this thread whatsoever. OP I'm not sure you want to bring up veiled accusations of racism when there are actual confirmed racists in your guild with the screen shots to back up the claims.

Croc believes the name “Ngar” is absolutely savage. And is willing to say so in public!

(Can you imagine what he’s been saying in private? )

Personally, I disagree with his sentiment.

But this is a good demo of why I believe free speech is valuable! And I’d encourage anyone else with strong feelings to feel free to share.

Take Croco as an example, he just went from sitting silently on the side passively judging forum posts - to writing a forum post to share his thoughts on how cools and edgy he and his friends are for promoting names like “Ngar” and hoarding secret stashes of pictures.

That’s unironically like a legit ding in RL. Grats on level bro!

[Croco]

Croc believes the name “Ngar” is absolutely savage. And is willing to say so in public!

(Can you imagine what he’s been saying in private? )

Personally, I disagree with his sentiment.

But this is a good demo of why I believe free speech is valuable! And I’d encourage anyone else with strong feelings to feel free to share.

Take Croco as an example, he just went from sitting silently on the side passively judging forum posts - to writing a forum post to share his thoughts on how cools and edgy he and his friends are for promoting names like “Ngar” and hoarding secret stashes of pictures.

That’s unironically like a legit ding in RL. Grats on level bro!

No one is promoting that name except for you. You're the one who brought it up out of the blue because you have nothing of substance to say regarding the original topic of your thread. You already looked like an idiot when it came to the original post now you've decided to make yourself look like an even bigger idiot with complete non sequitur topic change.

[Grumph]

No one is promoting that name except for you. You're the one who brought it up out of the blue because you have nothing of substance to say regarding the original topic of your thread. You already looked like an idiot when it came to the original post now you've decided to make yourself look like an even bigger idiot with complete non sequitur topic change.


I’m starting to see the reason for the secret stashes of pictures!

Logic is hard sometimes. “No one is promoting!”

A character named “Ngar” has been promoted to guild officer by Kittens. This presumably occurred after the character name was accepted into guild membership.

Ngar is also a rep for Kittens on the UN - imo another public promotion (again, not a choice I woulda made - but hey no judgment here!).

But hey: “nO oNe iS prOmoTIng”


And since you asked. Yes, I personally believe the intent of /ran for ring 10 is to... give multiple guilds a chance at ring wars. As in more than 3.

Does TSS know you believe it’d be idiotic for any one of them to get a ring 10?

[myrddraal]

Such powerful logic as you wield!

arguing that guilds who aren’t even trying to do something the might not be able to do...

are afraid of being punished for trying...

with the very grave punishment...

of not being able to try again for three weeks.

But Jude, I’m starting to think you could make it as a full time motivational speaker with messages like this! “Meh, the systems against you, risks too big, don’t bother trying, or you’ll be sorry you did!”

Maybe it’s time for a break, bud.
TLDR:

Can’t try?
Wont try.
Bc if they try and fail.
They can’t try again for 3 weeks.

Logic.

[myrddraal]

Oh I put my reply in the quote, whoops, lol. Maybe it’s time for a break, bud ☺️

[Grumph]

14564

[Nexii]

TSS definitely has the numbers do a ring war on their own. An alliance of the smaller guilds probably also could.

[k9quaint]

Mad auto-firing neckbeard furious about his welfare Vulak pixels.

[Grapeape]

So they dont want to try cause theyre afraid of 3 weeks off when theyve had 250 weeks off since the Velious release?

Doesnt make sense -- They dont try so the 3 week penalty isnt a deterrent for them since they are in the same boat they were before they tried anyways.

I'll try again. They aren't trying because they never have. Nothing has changed. The roll has nothing to do with any of this. the roll is because you assholes can't stop cheating each other.

[Bhairava]

rogean and nilbog need to just perma ban all 'raiders' and let everyone else work their way up. then when the lower level guys inevitably fall to pixel sickness, they can get banned too. its a healthy life cycle, once ur brain gets too rotten to work right you get banned and new people get a chance

[Bhairava]

it would be an actual act of mercy for some of these people

[myrddraal]

So they dont want to try cause theyre afraid of 3 weeks off when theyve had 250 weeks off since the Velious release?

Doesnt make sense -- They dont try so the 3 week penalty isnt a deterrent for them since they are in the same boat they were before they tried anyways.

I’m only speculating. Some guilds are perfectly happy farming HoT and competing for smaller targets to complete epics. Could be they don’t know the timer, could be they just don’t want to, maybe some of them are unfamiliar with the mechanics of it, but the GMs made the decision they did based on what they felt was strong enough evidence of someone potentially cheating that they made it a new rule, so these are the ones we play with. A roll is a much lower barrier of entry than clicking for the duration of the window as well so if they do decide they want to throw their hat in the ring the opportunity is more appealing. There are all sorts of people at angry, shady, and scout after all. A few less ring 10s is t a huge deal, summer is coming, enjoy some bbq if you lose a ring 10 roll.

[Grumph]

I’m only speculating. Some guilds are perfectly happy farming HoT and competing for smaller targets to complete epics. Could be they don’t know the timer, could be they just don’t want to, maybe some of them are unfamiliar with the mechanics of it, but the GMs made the decision they did based on what they felt was strong enough evidence of someone potentially cheating that they made it a new rule, so these are the ones we play with. A roll is a much lower barrier of entry than clicking for the duration of the window as well so if they do decide they want to throw their hat in the ring the opportunity is more appealing. There are all sorts of people at angry, shady, and scout after all. A few less ring 10s is t a huge deal, summer is coming, enjoy some bbq if you lose a ring 10 roll.


"Gm's believe there was cheating on click fests! THATS why they setup a random for win 3 weeks a month... and allowed clickfests to continue for 1 week a month!"

Judea I love you brother. But I have to say this sounds like a weird blinspot to me.

'anyone who wins at competition must be cheating!'

Seriously, this argument asserts that GM's are therefore supportive of cheating as long as its limited to 25% of the time?




Are these the sorts of self-congratulating confirmation biases you guys all banty about in /gu or your weird shared discords or whatever?

I'm starting to see how so many people think its perfectly fair and reasonable to use and abuse Khall and TSS efforts to create a 'golem race draft' -- (all part of Jutebox's carefuly constructed political stragey even...so give credit where credit it due lmao)

And then turn around and setup a nice neat ring war system that completely excludes TSS - doubling down to say itd be idiotic to think anyone in TSS should ever get a ring 10!

With friends like these who needs enemies!

"yeah lets agree to stuff that gets me things! Oh you want stuff too? quit being an idiot! Remeber how perfectly content you are?"

[tacomagradd]

I conferred with my critical race theory professor and she said there is no I in Ngar, so we good. Hope you also meet his other characters, Kgar, Cgar, etc., etc.

Also, I must admit feeling a little blush knowing I am getting all this credit for ring war roll. Really gotta give props to server staff for that one.

-Jute

PS: Straiker, honor your bet.

[sydbarrett25]

No one cares who wins raids 6 years into velious. Hope that helps.

[sydbarrett25]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=370845&highlight=Ring

[Arvan]

I’m starting to see the reason for the secret stashes of pictures!

Logic is hard sometimes. “No one is promoting!”

A character named “Ngar” has been promoted to guild officer by Kittens. This presumably occurred after the character name was accepted into guild membership.

Ngar is also a rep for Kittens on the UN - imo another public promotion (again, not a choice I woulda made - but hey no judgment here!).

But hey: “nO oNe iS prOmoTIng”


And since you asked. Yes, I personally believe the intent of /ran for ring 10 is to... give multiple guilds a chance at ring wars. As in more than 3.

Does TSS know you believe it’d be idiotic for any one of them to get a ring 10?

You sound a little heated over this! Sit down... take a glass of water. It’ll be ok!

[Bardp1999]

/barf

[Grumph]

I conferred with my critical race theory professor and she said there is no I in Ngar, so we good. Hope you also meet his other characters, Kgar, Cgar, etc., etc.

Also, I must admit feeling a little blush knowing I am getting all this credit for ring war roll. Really gotta give props to server staff for that one.

-Jute

PS: Straiker, honor your bet.


Gotcha, so it was your decision to promote the handle “Ngar.”

Quick question: what benefits did you see in using the term ‘Ngar’ that ultimately outweighed your initial reservations?



I’d also like to ask, for everyone outside of kittens, isn’t it funny how suddenly everything is out of Jute’s hands now?

For all the casual guilds missing out on ring 10 - there’s absolutely nothing Jutebox can do about it.

Now that Kittens is rolling for all those ring wars without you - it’s the gms fault or something. Nothing Jute can do!

[titanshub]

Gotcha, so it was your decision to promote the handle “Ngar.”

Quick question: what benefits did you see in using the term ‘Ngar’ that ultimately outweighed your initial reservations?

I’d also like to ask, for everyone outside of kittens, isn’t it funny how suddenly everything is out of Jute’s hands now?

For all the casual guilds missing out on ring 10 - there’s absolutely nothing Jutebox can do about it.

Now that Kittens is rolling for all those ring wars without you - it’s the gms fault or something. Nothing Jute can do!

You do realize he is not the guild leader right? It would be awful embarrassing to go through all this effort to slander him on the forums without even doing the most basic of research...

[Horza]

I am Jutebox.

[greasemonk]

I am Jutebox.

[Croco]

Gotcha, so it was your decision to promote the handle “Ngar.”

Quick question: what benefits did you see in using the term ‘Ngar’ that ultimately outweighed your initial reservations?



I’d also like to ask, for everyone outside of kittens, isn’t it funny how suddenly everything is out of Jute’s hands now?

For all the casual guilds missing out on ring 10 - there’s absolutely nothing Jutebox can do about it.

Now that Kittens is rolling for all those ring wars without you - it’s the gms fault or something. Nothing Jute can do!

Really tough time of year for you guys. How many vindi kills do you think you'll need to wash the taste of the first welfare vulak out of your mouth? Probably a lot. You should probably just take a break and do something else. You can get through this!

[San'Drax]

Was expecting Van to leave Vulak up until bag timer expired. Cuz you know, competition is the most important thing.

[Hotel]

everyone talking about autofiring here is such a loser

like, you really can't fathom someone cares more about the game than you and would like practice to get good at something?

this server has gone from embracing classic non instanced mmos to separating guilds from being able to compete on the same mobs together or even be in the same zone

why bother playing p99 for that, there are plenty other games where you can be discord casual chat room star

there was only one place where you could pull raid mobs in a non instanced raid zone within a multi guild environment and that was p99, sad to see rogean and nilbog let the game move past that

[eezl]

It's pronounced Njar you idiot

[k9quaint]

It's pronounced Njar you idiot

I thought it was pronounced Joot' bawks

[Yinein]

kittens swarming RNF, 2021 is wild

[Ennewi]

Gotcha, so it was your decision to promote the handle “Ngar.”

Quick question: what benefits did you see in using the term ‘Ngar’ that ultimately outweighed your initial reservations?



I’d also like to ask, for everyone outside of kittens, isn’t it funny how suddenly everything is out of Jute’s hands now?

For all the casual guilds missing out on ring 10 - there’s absolutely nothing Jutebox can do about it.

Now that Kittens is rolling for all those ring wars without you - it’s the gms fault or something. Nothing Jute can do!

https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/NGAR

[Snaggles]

OP is the Don Quixote of dice rolls.

[Arvan]

kittens swarming RNF, 2021 is wild

Yeah gotta pick up your slack! rnf slacker!

[Grumph]

You do realize he is not the guild leader right? It would be awful embarrassing to go through all this effort to slander him on the forums without even doing the most basic of research...

Spacepope, during your tenure I don’t believe a term like ‘Ngar’ would have been promoted by kittens.

I also don’t believe I ever heard of Kittens manipulating other casual guilds for straw pole votes and political cache - just to drop them like a wet ball of yarn - before when you were leading.

And I don’t remember seeing anyone from Kittens try to internet bully someone into deleting their character back before you stepped down as guild leader.

[Grapeape]

everyone talking about autofiring here is such a loser

like, you really can't fathom someone cares more about the game than you and would like practice to get good at something?

this server has gone from embracing classic non instanced mmos to separating guilds from being able to compete on the same mobs together or even be in the same zone

why bother playing p99 for that, there are plenty other games where you can be discord casual chat room star

there was only one place where you could pull raid mobs in a non instanced raid zone within a multi guild environment and that was p99, sad to see rogean and nilbog let the game move past that

"We’ve heard quite a bit of feedback around the 7-day Ring War competitive turn-in period, including suspicions of autofiring due to the speed at which the “clickfest” was being completed. While we have never been given smoking gun evidence of auto-firing taking place, we do want to ensure the appropriate level of competition during this window each month."

no one's giving you opinions about auto-firing, just restating CSR's position. OP thinks ring roll is for casuals. its not for casuals. its for cry asses from guilds that actually compete on ring war. next time work out an agreement instead of leaving it to mom and dad to sort out.

[xdrcfrx]

And I don’t remember seeing anyone from Kittens try to internet bully someone into deleting their character back before you stepped down as guild leader.

straiker proposed that bet on his own, and has failed to deliver. all of your collective credibility suffers because of this original sin. straiker, honor your bet. time to delete.

[Horza]

kittens swarming RNF, 2021 is wild

Vanquish bootlicker still mad.

[Arvan]

Straiker still defaulting on the bet he made? Have you no honor sir?

[UrkTheSlayer]

Grumph, I think I speak for Jesus and everyone else here:

Stop fucking putting each sentence on its own line.

Fuck you.

See how awful this look?

[plzrelax]

Ngar is a great player

[UrkTheSlayer]

Don’t who that is but even if they’re a good player, that toon name is poor form.

[Allishia]

Didn't mean to come off like I did but I didn't think there were any guilds large enough to do wave 3 is what I meant...besides the vanq/kitten/riot. Maybe TSS can but I dunno? Thought most guilds merged

[Senix]

I dunno why OP is so mad here is his quote "And then turn around and setup a nice neat ring war system that completely excludes TSS - doubling down to say itd be idiotic to think anyone in TSS should ever get a ring 10!"

Imagine not showing up to an open roll and then complain about it.

[Senix]

in fact as long as you made it aware aegis+tss were partnering to do it and yall had a roller set it for it you guys could pull it off instead of being on here complaining and not even trying. Even then tss would have a decent shot at attempting a solo but with aegis I'm sure yall could do it.

[Babizul]

Are there any other guilds besides the 3 that can even do ring war? It's not that easy esp if under geared etc...the first few waves are but last are tough...

What’s tough about it? Cleric need to click on/press ch button more? A bard has to run in a circle? An enchanter has to cast mez, maybe aoe stun? Perhaps your tank has to move(god forbid), maybe you need 2(FUCK)? I mean what will we do man? We have to like auto attack this shit and like click spell icons and like heal people when their health gets low like holy shit I wanna go back home to mommy omfg!

You’re playing Everquest bruh. Every situation is handled by 1 - at most 3 buttons (unless you’re bad, which after 30 years probably more likely mentally handicapped). Stop hyping this retard trap up or you’ll be here forever.

[Shawk]

What’s tough about it? Cleric need to click on/press ch button more? A bard has to run in a circle? An enchanter has to cast mez, maybe aoe stun? Perhaps your tank has to move(god forbid), maybe you need 2(FUCK)? I mean what will we do man? We have to like auto attack this shit and like click spell icons and like heal people when their health gets low like holy shit I wanna go back home to mommy omfg!

You’re playing Everquest bruh. Every situation is handled by 1 - at most 3 buttons (unless you’re bad, which after 30 years probably more likely mentally handicapped). Stop hyping this retard trap up or you’ll be here forever.

https://i.imgur.com/2oowAKf.png

[Snaggles]

What’s tough about it? Cleric need to click on/press ch button more? A bard has to run in a circle? An enchanter has to cast mez, maybe aoe stun? Perhaps your tank has to move(god forbid), maybe you need 2(FUCK)? I mean what will we do man? We have to like auto attack this shit and like click spell icons and like heal people when their health gets low like holy shit I wanna go back home to mommy omfg!

You’re playing Everquest bruh. Every situation is handled by 1 - at most 3 buttons (unless you’re bad, which after 30 years probably more likely mentally handicapped). Stop hyping this retard trap up or you’ll be here forever.

Maintaining 1800+ dps and knowing what to do. So sufficient player numbers and a modicum of organization. It’s far tougher than Vindi and many guilds struggle to do that.

[Yinein]

Maintaining 1800+ dps and knowing what to do. So sufficient player numbers and a modicum of organization. It’s far tougher than Vindi and many guilds struggle to do that.

You only need 1k raid dps and it's been done in the 30s for amount of people. Hope that helps.

[Ennewi]

it's been done in the 30s for amount of people.

https://youtu.be/VCzsX-LqJ-4

[Allishia]

What’s tough about it? Cleric need to click on/press ch button more? A bard has to run in a circle? An enchanter has to cast mez, maybe aoe stun? Perhaps your tank has to move(god forbid), maybe you need 2(FUCK)? I mean what will we do man? We have to like auto attack this shit and like click spell icons and like heal people when their health gets low like holy shit I wanna go back home to mommy omfg!

You’re playing Everquest bruh. Every situation is handled by 1 - at most 3 buttons (unless you’re bad, which after 30 years probably more likely mentally handicapped). Stop hyping this retard trap up or you’ll be here forever.

There is a little more coordination required then that but ok, good luck :)

[Arvan]

What’s tough about it? Cleric need to click on/press ch button more? A bard has to run in a circle? An enchanter has to cast mez, maybe aoe stun? Perhaps your tank has to move(god forbid), maybe you need 2(FUCK)? I mean what will we do man? We have to like auto attack this shit and like click spell icons and like heal people when their health gets low like holy shit I wanna go back home to mommy omfg!

You’re playing Everquest bruh. Every situation is handled by 1 - at most 3 buttons (unless you’re bad, which after 30 years probably more likely mentally handicapped). Stop hyping this retard trap up or you’ll be here forever.

Its that easy but vanq/freedom has failed how many of them? Yikerinos