Covid Spike Proteins (mRNA Vaccines) cause Vascular Damage

[Raev]

https://www.salk.edu/news-release/the-novel-coronavirus-spike-protein-plays-additional-key-role-in-illness/

In the new study, the researchers created a “pseudovirus” that was surrounded by SARS-CoV-2 classic crown of spike proteins, but did not contain any actual virus. Exposure to this pseudovirus resulted in damage to the lungs and arteries of an animal model—proving that the spike protein alone was enough to cause disease. Tissue samples showed inflammation in endothelial cells lining the pulmonary artery walls.

These are the proteins that are intentionally produced by the Pfizer and Moderna mRNA vaccines. Fortunately, because these vaccines violated all of the FDA testing protocols, as part of Operation Warp Speed Trump gave the vaccine manufacturers legal immunity, so there is no need to panic: all corporate profits will remain intact.

[starkind]

yep the covid spike rips of your bloodstreams. had it happen 2 me, but i didn't need the ER because i took care of myself, the doctors woulda just been dumb and probably killed me.

Sucks to live in America.

[Jimjam]

I wonder if this is related to the blood clots allegedly experienced at an increased rate amongst those that have been infected with the deactivated virus?

[Kaveh]

The vaccines produce immunity to spike proteins by making your body familiar to them. It does not cause a cascade of spike protein proliferation within your tissues

These are very basic principles of secondary immunity that you’ve grossly misinterpreted

[cd288]

The vaccines produce immunity to spike proteins by making your body familiar to them. It does not cause a cascade of spike protein proliferation within your tissues

These are very basic principles of secondary immunity that you’ve grossly misinterpreted

Exactly. OP doesn’t understand anything lol. And literally posted a title that isn’t supported by the article he quotes.

Just extrapolated something from actual COVID and assumed that 1:1 that means the vaccine is giving you actual COVID and therefore will have the same affects.

The vaccine essentially prevents the spike protein from binding to your cells, it’s not creating COVID viral particles/spike proteins...

[cd288]

I wonder if this is related to the blood clots allegedly experienced at an increased rate amongst those that have been infected with the deactivated virus?

You’re not being infected with a deactivated virus lol. There’s no dead virus in the COVID vaccine, that’s why the technology is so revolutionary

[Gwaihir]

And.... Cd288 ignored for parroting "supposed to"s to dismiss actualities

[Snortles Chortles]

you WILL get the VacCiNE!!!

[starkind]

Ur body attak the covid spokes uR bod atakk Ur platelet spokez

if u gurt curvurd, CurVuRd floodU with sPROKEYZ and u maybe die from ur body and also the spikies!

It's pretty simple.

Dangurous for some. Danguress either way if u have a lot of girly hromones. Be safe pplz.

U don't want either covid, or maybe the vaxxes.

(sorru ur 2dum 2 read)

[Jimjam]

You’re not being infected with a deactivated virus lol. There’s no dead virus in the COVID vaccine, that’s why the technology is so revolutionary

So you’re being infected by a live virus?

Is this the same for all the manufacturers?

[Toxigen]

heres a novel idea

dont get the vaccine and let your body do what its designed to do

[HalflingSpergand]

It's probably just scientist jizz

[Jibartik]

The vaccines produce immunity to spike proteins by making your body familiar to them. It does not cause a cascade of spike protein proliferation within your tissues

These are very basic principles of secondary immunity that you’ve grossly misinterpreted

lol I read the article and was vastly calmed after reading the title of this thread.

Basically I was like, oh phew the article literally contradicts everything raev said lmao

[Gravydoo II]

The vaccines produce immunity to spike proteins by making your body familiar to them. It does not cause a cascade of spike protein proliferation within your tissues

These are very basic principles of secondary immunity that you’ve grossly misinterpreted

but the youtube told them that its from the lizard government and it has tracking devices in the vaccine because "they dont know whats in it".

[Gravydoo II]

https://www.salk.edu/news-release/the-novel-coronavirus-spike-protein-plays-additional-key-role-in-illness/



These are the proteins that are intentionally produced by the Pfizer and Moderna mRNA vaccines. Fortunately, because these vaccines violated all of the FDA testing protocols, as part of Operation Warp Speed Trump gave the vaccine manufacturers legal immunity, so there is no need to panic: all corporate profits will remain intact.

Do you even know what mRNA means??? Do you have any fucking idea?? You think they are taking dead covid, putting it in a tube, and injecting it into people??? Please explain your position.

How do you think the vaccine is made and why would they use RNA??

[Raev]

Basically I was like, oh phew the article literally contradicts everything raev said lmao

mRNA vaccines, i.e. those from Pfizer and Moderna, work by giving your body instructions (that's the RNA part) to make COVID spike proteins. The CDC has a nice picture here (https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/downloads/pfizer-biontech-vaccine-what-Clinicians-need-to-know.pdf) on page 5. The theory was that the immune system could learn to destroy COVID without actually injecting a so-called live virus. What the article in question is claiming is that it does not matter, the spike protein itself causes pulmonary trauma even if there is no actual virus inside it: that's the "proving that the spike protein alone was enough to cause disease." part. If spike proteins cause disease, and mRNA vaccines cause spike proteins, it automatically follows that mRNA vaccines cause disease. Naturally the scientists at the Salk institute don't draw the obvious conclusion because they want to keep their $billions in funding.

If you have any reason why this logic is incorrect, I'd love to hear it. Unlike most people, I actually change my mind and admit it when I am wrong.

[Botten]

My 5G has been so good since my second dose.

[Jibartik]

No it teaches them how to identify the spike proteins. It doesn't make you a spike protein factory.

[Raev]

No it teaches them how to identify the spike proteins. It doesn't make you a spike protein factory.

Yes, it does. That is exactly what it does. https://www.pfizer.com/news/hot-topics/the_facts_about_pfizer_and_biontech_s_covid_19_vac cine

Unlike a traditional vaccine that uses inactivated, dead, or portions of actual virus to spur an immune response, mRNA delivers a message to your body’s cells via a lipid nanoparticle envelope that instructs the cells to generate the spike protein found on the surface of a coronavirus that initiates infection. Instructing cells to generate the spike protein spurs an immune response, including generation of antibodies specific to the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein.

But hey, you can't say they didn't warn you:

The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine has not been approved or licensed by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), but has been authorized for emergency use by FDA under an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) to prevent Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) for use in individuals 16 years of age and older. The emergency use of this product is only authorized for the duration of the declaration that circumstances exist justifying the authorization of emergency use of the medical product under Section 564(b)(1) of the FD&C Act unless the declaration is terminated or authorization revoked sooner.

Thanks Trump <3

[Jibartik]

Imagine if joe Rogan turns out to be right

[Gravydoo II]

Remember when fox news tried to say that we should call it the "trump vaccine" because 4 companies were already producing it on their own when he "ordered" them to make it? You know, in his "honor" for letting the virus into the USA and letting it kill hundreds of thousands of people while he said it was a democratic hoax.

[Cecily]

heres a novel idea

dont get the vaccine and let your body do what its designed to do

It's your body that kills you. Systemic novel viral infection -> huge immune response -> inflammation in lungs -> can't breathe.

[Raev]

Remember when fox news tried to say that we should call it the "trump vaccine" because 4 companies were already producing it on their own when he "ordered" them to make it? You know, in his "honor" for letting the virus into the USA and letting it kill hundreds of thousands of people while he said it was a democratic hoax.

I realize this Trump bashing thing can get a bit addictive (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL1fkgPauFk) but the simple reality is that it no longer matters that Trump was shit. At this point it's about not poisoning our entire nation and collapsing into Mad Max.

[Jimjam]

My 5G has been so good since my second dose.

I'm looking forward to getting 6, 7 or maybe even 8 G after my top up next week.

[Jimjam]

It's your body that kills you. Systemic novel viral infection -> huge immune response -> inflammation in lungs -> can't breathe.

Surely then, it would be like the Spanish Flu, where people with the 'best' immune systems were worst affected?

[Jibartik]

All those people in india that are my age and body type just dying on the street or in hallways is alarming.

[Jimjam]

heres a novel idea

dont get the vaccine and let your body do what its designed to do

Doesn't getting the vaccine design your body to fight C19?

[usernamebob27]

It's actually worse then you think...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNyAovuUxro

The people that get vaccinated, their immune system is now permanently programed to make antibodies that will only detect the spike protein on covid19 in its current form. It doesn't give protection from the entire genetic make up of the viruses. So when the virus eventually mutates a change in the proteins in the spikes the people that were inoculated with the RNA vaccines will created those pre programed antibodies that will literally do nothing.

[Gwaihir]

Doesn't getting the vaccine design your body to fight C19?

No.

[Jibartik]

How many posts will it take to get to ashctually it will mutate you into a grey alien and it's the mark of the beast.

[FatherSioux]

You guys ever see those things people stick in their penis? Spike type things? So weird.

[Jibartik]

Darkelf bloodcells can create their own spike protines sorry you tunare loving cuckelves cant.

[usernamebob27]

what about a wood elf with prenerf guise?

[Jibartik]

Masks are OK

Better not let that illusion fade below your nose though.

[usernamebob27]

I guess a wood elf rogue or bard with two illusion masks is probably 50% move immune then just having one of them

[Jibartik]

Guise of the Deceiver

https://i.imgur.com/JJD6GIr.png

Mask of Deception

https://i.imgur.com/7GNanPL.png

[Botten]

It's actually worse then you think...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNyAovuUxro

The people that get vaccinated, their immune system is now permanently programed to make antibodies that will only detect the spike protein on covid19 in its current form. It doesn't give protection from the entire genetic make up of the viruses. So when the virus eventually mutates a change in the proteins in the spikes the people that were inoculated with the RNA vaccines will created those pre programed antibodies that will literally do nothing.

So you don't get the Flu vaccine every year for the same reason. *roll eyes

[Cecily]

Surely then, it would be like the Spanish Flu, where people with the 'best' immune systems were worst affected?

Not necessarily. Covid inhibits type 1 interferon response and that's already impaired in the elderly.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-01202-8

"A key feature of coronaviruses (MERS-CoV, SARS-CoV) is a capability to inhibit and delay the type I IFN response, leading to increased viral replication and severe immunopathology. Also, SARS-CoV-2 is able to inhibit the type I IFN responses in infected cells, leading to delayed or overall suppressed type I IFN responses49,50. This allows the virus to replicate and induce more tissue damage, and triggers a more exuberant immune response as the immune system struggles to limit viral replication and to manage dying and dead cells. Immune pathology continues as inflammatory cells flow into the lung and produce large amounts of proinflammatory cytokines, further escalating the situation (Fig. 1c). Such imbalanced immune responses, caused in part by the impaired early type I IFN responses, are the most likely determinant of the overall severity of acute COVID-19 (refs. 50,51,52,53). This is further emphasized by recent results from the COVID Human Genetic Effort54 (https://www.covidhge.com/), which found that inborn errors in the type I IFN pathway55, or the presence of neutralizing autoantibodies to type I IFNs56, were strongly over-represented among individuals who developed life-threatening COVID-19. Whether imbalanced or impaired innate responses also contribute to the development of other disease manifestations such as MIS-C and long COVID remains to be determined."

[usernamebob27]

Maybe watch the video first. The Dutch guy being interviewed is a Doctor of Veterinary Medicine who has specialist expertise in virology and vaccinology.

If he's wrong that's a good thing. If he's right, then things are going to be not so good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNyAovuUxro

[HalflingSpergand]

Not necessarily. Covid inhibits type 1 interferon response and that's already impaired in the elderly.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-01202-8

"A key feature of coronaviruses (MERS-CoV, SARS-CoV) is a capability to inhibit and delay the type I IFN response, leading to increased viral replication and severe immunopathology. Also, SARS-CoV-2 is able to inhibit the type I IFN responses in infected cells, leading to delayed or overall suppressed type I IFN responses49,50. This allows the virus to replicate and induce more tissue damage, and triggers a more exuberant immune response as the immune system struggles to limit viral replication and to manage dying and dead cells. Immune pathology continues as inflammatory cells flow into the lung and produce large amounts of proinflammatory cytokines, further escalating the situation (Fig. 1c). Such imbalanced immune responses, caused in part by the impaired early type I IFN responses, are the most likely determinant of the overall severity of acute COVID-19 (refs. 50,51,52,53). This is further emphasized by recent results from the COVID Human Genetic Effort54 (https://www.covidhge.com/), which found that inborn errors in the type I IFN pathway55, or the presence of neutralizing autoantibodies to type I IFNs56, were strongly over-represented among individuals who developed life-threatening COVID-19. Whether imbalanced or impaired innate responses also contribute to the development of other disease manifestations such as MIS-C and long COVID remains to be determined."

Stop regurgitarding you guys don't know shit

[Cecily]

Stop regurgitarding you guys don't know shit

Another interesting part of that article mentioned a review which did not find any statistical risk increase in immunocompromised patients for severe infections, which was a question I had earlier today. No, I literally don't know shit, but there's a lot of good information in that article.

Covid less risky to kids because kids are made to get sick. Their thymus spits out more naive t-cells, which get produced less and less as we age. Obese/old people/diabetics have a worse neutrophil to lymphocyte ratio. That's an indicator for low grade systemic infection and screws up the response to the infection.

[HalflingSpergand]

Bullshit. Obese boomers and old people were going to die anyways. They can't faced their fate. Ever seen an old obese person?

[Cecily]

Like every day I go in to work for free, yes.

[HalflingSpergand]

How old? Are they dying by any chance?

[Botten]

Maybe watch the video first. The Dutch guy being interviewed is a Doctor of Veterinary Medicine who has specialist expertise in virology and vaccinology.

If he's wrong that's a good thing. If he's right, then things are going to be not so good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNyAovuUxro

1. "Important counterpoint to Dr. Bossche’s claim is that we can simply reformulate our vaccines to match new variants of concern. There is a reason why a new flu vaccine is made each year: the influenza virus drifts and shifts and the vaccine needs to be reformulated to be a better match for the specific viruses that are predicted to be common during the next flu season."

2. "But even if the COVID-19 vaccines still allowed some vaccinated people to transmit the virus to others, there is evidence that they could still efficiently contain the spread of the disease. Edward Nirenberg, a science blogger who addressed Dr. Bossche’s claims in great detail, points to Marek’s disease. It is caused by a herpesvirus and it gives chickens a number of health problems, including cancer. Thankfully, there is a vaccine against it, but over time, newer and more virulent strains of the virus have been detected, and this made scientists think it was because the vaccine was leaky, that it did not allow the chicken to mount a good enough immune response. Interestingly enough, the use of this seemingly leaky vaccine in chickens led to a reduction in the incidence of Marek’s disease by 99%. Potentially leaky vaccine but stellar disease reduction."

Why oh why is anti-vaccine now the new political right agenda.
Even Tom Tucker is pushing Anti-Vaxxer garbage. And Fox practically programs their viewers.

[Cecily]

Most of my patients are 70+

[HalflingSpergand]

ARE THEY DYING? Just curious because that's what fat old people do

[Horza]

Bullshit. Obese boomers and old people were going to die anyways. They can't faced their fate. Ever seen an old obese person?

When did Republicans become the pro-death party?

[HalflingSpergand]

I'm not a republican dude, holy shit

[Cecily]

How can you not be at 70+? You're dying because your risk factors for things that can kill you go up. Throw in a hip fracture or perforated bowels and that risk goes wayyyy up. I'm not really arguing against old people dying, more interested in why Covid affects them worse than younger people.

[HalflingSpergand]

You think a 300 pound black autistic nazi thats handsome and rich would be republicant?

[HalflingSpergand]

How can you not be at 70+? You're dying because your risk factors for things that can kill you go up. I'm not really arguing against old people dying, more interested in why Covid affects them worse than younger people.

Every sickness affects old obese people more, glad i could clear that up for u

[Cecily]

Yes, that's trivially true, but why? Think the take way from that article seemed to be the fat people are inflamed already and that fucks up the response to the virus. Which makes me wanna look more into inflammation as a topic. Sorry if my researching out loud is annoying you.

[HalflingSpergand]

Who cares why just don't be a fat ass

[Cecily]

Caring is what they [don't] pay me for.

[usernamebob27]

Botten you didn't watch the video. They have a conversation about this they put into simple terms for people to understand. The vaccine would have worked if we had it for everyone in October of 2019 when it started infecting people in China. But the virus has gone around the world infecting the entire population of the planet mutating into different variants and are becoming stronger and stronger as time goes on.
The vaccines we have right now are designed for the original strain of the virus.
So we just used our best weapon on a virus that has already spread the entire world, has mutated into so many variants that it's impossible to find them all and they keep popping up every week.
This virus mutates quickly because of how contagious it is, it's everywhere on the planet, the vaccines we have are developed on the original strain, and eventually sooner rather then later it will mutate to the point where its a completely different virus. Maybe it will mutate to become deadly for everyone instead of just the old and sick. Maybe everyone from 1 to 100 yr of age will suffer equally with the new version. At least one of the variants will find a way around the vaccine and become dominate.
Unlike a person that has already been sick with covid19 and has the natural antibodies that their body developed for the entire virus, unlike the vaccinated people whos immune system are now programed only to detect the specific spike proteins. The people with the nature developed antibodies will have better outcomes and survival chances the the vaccinated.

[Evia]

heres a novel idea

dont get the vaccine and let your body do what its designed to do

[Jibartik]

u guys are just jellous of these babes https://www.tiktok.com/@seaweed82/video/6957115964840283397?lang=en&is_copy_url=0&is_from_webapp=v1&sender_device=pc&sender_web_id=6872118017591346693

[Pulgasari]

There is a reason why a new flu vaccine is made each year: the influenza virus drifts and shifts and the vaccine needs to be reformulated to be a better match for the specific viruses that are predicted to be common during the next flu season."

Is there a word for comparing the covid mutation rate with that of the influenza virus?

[Raev]

Why oh why is anti-vaccine now the new political right agenda.

Did you read the article in the OP which shows that the COVID spike proteins generated by mRNA vaccines cause lung and blood vessel damage? Did you know that there is no proof COVID vaccines keep you from dying of COVID or even transmitting it to others? The trials only proved that people would get sick less, and that is most easily accomplished by nuking your immune system to prevent it from reacting strongly to an exterior threat.

Anti-vaccine would be common sense in any era not dominated by Big Pharma propaganda.

heres a novel idea

dont get the vaccine and let your body do what its designed to do

Really just this. Every day I go outside and I see the incredible ecosystem of nature in all of its complexity, harmony, and majesty, and I just laugh at the utter absurdity of Pfizer's chimpanzees in suits (suitably shaved) trying to improve my cellular programming.

[Evia]

The real problem here is that we have free thinkers in a world where we need you to shut up and comply. Don't worry though they're hitting every angle so that when you resist you're either a racist, a science denier, a trump supporter, fascist, or a combination of them.

[Horza]

either a racist, a science denier, a trump supporter, fascist, or a combination of them.

Sounds like you keep great company :p

[feniin]

Did you read the article in the OP which shows that the COVID spike proteins generated by mRNA vaccines cause lung and blood vessel damage? Did you know that there is no proof COVID vaccines keep you from dying of COVID or even transmitting it to others? The trials only proved that people would get sick less, and that is most easily accomplished by nuking your immune system to prevent it from reacting strongly to an exterior threat.

Anti-vaccine would be common sense in any era not dominated by Big Pharma propaganda.



Really just this. Every day I go outside and I see the incredible ecosystem of nature in all of its complexity, harmony, and majesty, and I just laugh at the utter absurdity of Pfizer's chimpanzees in suits (suitably shaved) trying to improve my cellular programming.
You're vaccinated for a dozen other things. Why is the Covid vaccine suddenly where you draw the line?

[Snortles Chortles]

trust us!!! we’re smArTeR thAn you!!!

[Kaveh]

Yeah, anti vaxxers should be more prominent. We all long for the days when 50% of children died by age 5

Jesus Christ guys you will answer to God for this evil in your heads

[Kaveh]

trust us!!! we’re smArTeR thAn you!!!

And less bald

[Jibartik]

I mean one thing to consider is whos word you're taking.

I know you guys hate big pharma, but does that mean you have to listen to drunk debbie?

[Gwaihir]

How many posts will it take to get to ashctually it will mutate you into a grey alien and it's the mark of the beast.

6 million seems like a good number.

[Jibartik]

https://i.imgur.com/1DyUlrA.png

https://i.imgur.com/k7I5sAP.png

[usernamebob27]

Imagine if joe Rogan turns out to be right

Joe Rogan POTUS 2024 please
Who would be his running mate?

[Horza]

6 million seems like a good number.

Your mask is slipping again, Teppler.

[Jibartik]

Before we let you into the store to buy or sell, let me check your forehead.

https://i.imgur.com/NzzlbBo.png

Or show me your vaccine passport identification band.

https://i.imgur.com/nItKc2M.png

13:16 And the second beast required all people small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark— the name of the beast or the number of its name.

[HalflingSpergand]

Before we let you into the store to buy or sell, let me check your forehead.

https://i.imgur.com/NzzlbBo.png

Or show me your vaccine passport identification band.

https://i.imgur.com/nItKc2M.png

13:16 And the second beast required all people small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark— the name of the beast or the number of its name.

Love it

[Botten]

Botten you didn't watch the video. They have a conversation about this they put into simple terms for people to understand. The vaccine would have worked if we had it for everyone in October of 2019 when it started infecting people in China. But the virus has gone around the world infecting the entire population of the planet mutating into different variants and are becoming stronger and stronger as time goes on.
The vaccines we have right now are designed for the original strain of the virus.
So we just used our best weapon on a virus that has already spread the entire world, has mutated into so many variants that it's impossible to find them all and they keep popping up every week.
This virus mutates quickly because of how contagious it is, it's everywhere on the planet, the vaccines we have are developed on the original strain, and eventually sooner rather then later it will mutate to the point where its a completely different virus. Maybe it will mutate to become deadly for everyone instead of just the old and sick. Maybe everyone from 1 to 100 yr of age will suffer equally with the new version. At least one of the variants will find a way around the vaccine and become dominate.
Unlike a person that has already been sick with covid19 and has the natural antibodies that their body developed for the entire virus, unlike the vaccinated people whos immune system are now programed only to detect the specific spike proteins. The people with the nature developed antibodies will have better outcomes and survival chances the the vaccinated.

I not only watched the video I posted you the counter research targeting you vets miss information. There were two reason why he was found to be wrong. Did you read them both?

[Botten]

Did you read the article in the OP which shows that the COVID spike proteins generated by mRNA vaccines cause lung and blood vessel damage? Did you know that there is no proof COVID vaccines keep you from dying of COVID or even transmitting it to others? The trials only proved that people would get sick less, and that is most easily accomplished by nuking your immune system to prevent it from reacting strongly to an exterior threat.

Anti-vaccine would be common sense in any era not dominated by Big Pharma propaganda.


No proof Covid vaccines keep you from dying of Covid or even transmit to others?
You haven’t heard of clinical trials?

Even after ... 140 million+ in the US have been vaccinated and your statements do not measure up to your extremes.

Every time you get a vaccination you aren’t “nuking” your immune system.

And yes there are clinical trials that showed the Covid vaccine prevented many from getting Covid.

And if you say prove to me it can’t happen then that’s just a fallacy in informal logic.

[Raev]

You're vaccinated for a dozen other things. Why is the Covid vaccine suddenly where you draw the line?

TBH I was rather in the dark about vaccines until I did my homework following the COVID lockdowns. I have to admit it took me a quite a while to accept that our entire medical profession was literally designed to kill people. Did you know that 250,000 (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/22/medical-errors-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-america.html) people die every year from medical errors? It's the third leading cause of death, and that's only what they admit to. It does, however, generate trillions in revenue per year, and hey, what's important?

[usernamebob27]

@Botten
First off you googled both of those counter points. Comparing Covid19 to flu is not a good argument, they are different viruses.
A experimental vaccine being put into the mass population is risky. How many medications on the market have side effects. How many of those side effects are actually beneficial vs the side effects that are harmful.
Only time will tell in the long run.
I already had covid19 in Dec 2020 so I'm not going to need a shot.
Good luck with yours though.
If the guys wrong you'll be fine, if he's right, things aren't going to be ok.

PSS... Comparing viruses isn't a good science but... some viruses you only get once, chickenpox. Your antibodies retain that information for your entire life. The vaccine will make your bodies retain only the information on the spike proteins for potentially your entire life instead of the complete make up of the virus.

[Ennewi]

G13 when he found a .gov link...
At first was all like: :D
After posting and being told it lacked credibility...
Then was all like: :mad:

OP is actually :confused: but feels :cool: with a .edu link.

[Raev]

No proof Covid vaccines keep you from dying of Covid or even transmit to others? You haven’t heard of clinical trials?

I phrased my statement very carefully. The clinical trials for the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines did not measure the rate of deaths for the participants. Nor did they measure whether vaccinated people were contagious. They only measured the number of people who got a cold.

[Raev]

OP is actually :confused: but feels :cool: with a .edu link.

Ennewi, I like you and you have my official permission to use my handle directly. Also, you are welcome to try and refute anything I am posting at any time. As I told Jibartik, my only goal is truth and I'm happy to admit when I am wrong and correct my views. Ironically, this means I am usually not wrong! But it does happen, so you are welcome to hope this is one of those cases . . .

[G13]

G13 when he found a .gov link...
At first was all like: :D
After posting and being told it lacked credibility...
Then was all like: :mad:

OP is actually :confused: but feels :cool: with a .edu link.

You're still butthurt

[Kaveh]

TBH I was rather in the dark about vaccines until I did my homework following the COVID lockdowns. I have to admit it took me a quite a while to accept that our entire medical profession was literally designed to kill people. Did you know that 250,000 (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/22/medical-errors-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-america.html) people die every year from medical errors? It's the third leading cause of death, and that's only what they admit to. It does, however, generate trillions in revenue per year, and hey, what's important?

You think the average nurse and doctor participate actively in a “system literally designed to kill people?” Cmon dude, you’re smarter than this. People aren’t on average evil

[Ennewi]

Ennewi, I like you and you have my official permission to use my handle directly. Also, you are welcome to try and refute anything I am posting at any time. As I told Jibartik, my only goal is truth and I'm happy to admit when I am wrong and correct my views. Ironically, this means I am usually not wrong! But it does happen, so you are welcome to hope this is one of those cases . . .

Many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.

[Ennewi]

You're still butthurt

Okay, internet tough guy.

[Jibartik]

I wish I could be smart enough to do some homework and go from being pretty in the dark to smarter than the worlds population in less than a year.

[Raev]

You think the average nurse and doctor participate actively in a “system literally designed to kill people?” Cmon dude, you’re smarter than this. People aren’t on average evil

So I wrote this poorly but fortunately your brain autocorrected 'profession' to 'system' :cool:

The vast majority of people in the medical system have good intentions - at least as long as they don't have to give up too many material comforts. However, the people at the top of the drug corporations are pure evil. In fact, many of them are real, literal Nazis. Remember, Fascism is the integration of companies with the state. One of the biggest companies in Nazi Germany was IG Farben, which relied on slave labor, aka the real Holocaust. In Nuremberg a number of members were put on trial. Most of them returned to the companies afterwards. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IG_Farben#IG_Farben_trial). For example, Fritz Meer:

He was released early in the summer of 1950 because of "good behaviour" from Landsberg Prison.[1] In 1956 Meer became Chairman of the board for IG Farben spinoff, Bayer AG.[1] He held the position of supervisory board chairman until 1964.[1] In subsequent years, he also took on board positions at a number of other companies, including, inter alia, Theodor Goldschmidt AG, Commerzbank AG, Bank Association, Duewag, VIAG and Union Bank AG, West Germany.

In his memory, his employer set up the Fritz-ter-Meer-Stiftung, now called the Bayer Science & Education Foundation, which promotes chemistry students through scholarships.

[Jibartik]

So the doctors that say the mnra proteins are absorbed broken down and removed from the body are wrong do you think?

[starkind]

Ur body attak the covid spokes uR bod atakk Ur platelet spokez

if u gurt curvurd, CurVuRd floodU with sPROKEYZ and u maybe die from ur body and also the spikies!

It's pretty simple.

Dangurous for some. Danguress either way if u have a lot of girly hromones. Be safe pplz.

U don't want either covid, or maybe the vaxxes.

(sorru ur 2dum 2 read)

Let me reiterate the logical process pleb3s in the language of my forebearers.

[Raev]

Many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.

The personal ego is indeed the greatest barrier to perceiving truth, and that's why I try quite hard to be as objective as possible at all times. I don't always succeed, of course.

But unlike G13's thread, so far you have delivered nothing but drive by ad hominems. I hope your Horza impression is only temporary!

[Horza]

So I wrote this poorly but fortunately your brain autocorrected 'profession' to 'system' :cool:

The vast majority of people in the medical system have good intentions - at least as long as they don't have to give up too many material comforts. However, the people at the top of the drug corporations are pure evil. In fact, many of them are real, literal Nazis. Remember, Fascism is the integration of companies with the state. One of the biggest companies in Nazi Germany was IG Farben, which relied on slave labor, aka the real Holocaust. In Nuremberg a number of members were put on trial. Most of them returned to the companies afterwards. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IG_Farben#IG_Farben_trial). For example, Fritz Meer:

Doctors are literal Nazis doesn't sound like a very good electoral strategy to me.

[G13]

Okay, internet tough guy.

Sorry your Rolling Stone article didn't prove masks do anything

[Raev]

So the doctors that say the mnra proteins are absorbed broken down and removed from the body are wrong do you think?

We simply don't know what happens in the long term; the vaccine studies lasted less than a year in comparison to the ~10 usually done.

In the short term, obviously the vast majority of people do not collapse on the spot. Still, there are a LOT of people complaining that they experienced significant symptoms especially after the second dose of the Pfizer/Moderna vaccines. Some of them are even dying, although no one is counting. Please do not think that just because Hank Aaron and Marvin Hagler died days after their jabs that these events are related. We are fact checking that FALSE!

[Ennewi]

The personal ego is indeed the greatest barrier to perceiving truth, and that's why I try quite hard to be as objective as possible at all times. I don't always succeed, of course.

But unlike G13's thread, so far you have delivered nothing but drive by ad hominems. I hope your Horza impression is only temporary!

Your destiny lies along a different path from mine.

[Raev]

Doctors are literal Nazis doesn't sound like a very good electoral strategy to me.

Fortunately I am not running for office! No amount of money could compensate me for having to deal with slimy Swamp creatures all day.

[Jibartik]

well, since we're imagining potential unforeseen nightmare scenarios there's not much you can say cant happen then.

Im going to bite so many people when I turn into a zombie.

[Jibartik]

Might cause Xmen.

[Kaveh]

Fortunately I am not running for office! No amount of money could compensate me for having to deal with slimy Swamp creatures all day.

If I didn’t have the most foreign name ever I’d run

[Raev]

well, since we're imagining potential unforeseen nightmare scenarios there's not much you can say cant happen then.

Im going to bite so many people when I turn into a zombie.

It's OK. You'll be quarantined so that you can only bite other vaccinated zombies!

And, with that I think I will call it a day. Have fun Politics RNF!

[G13]

The personal ego is indeed the greatest barrier to perceiving truth, and that's why I try quite hard to be as objective as possible at all times. I don't always succeed, of course.

But unlike G13's thread, so far you have delivered nothing but drive by ad hominems. I hope your Horza impression is only temporary!

He didn't deliver anything in that thread either

You're too blinded by wanting to kiss his ass when he's a dumbass that doesn't deserve your adulation

The only thing I've seen from him (like all lefties) is criticism of the source, sprinkled with whining about right right bogeymen under the bed, disguised as an "argument"

Criticism is the root of their entire thought process. It's a tactic. Not intelligence.

He won't tell you where the vast majority of Covid infections have taken place (Hint: Not outside at the beach. Not in any public place where masks are "required)

Stop putting him on a pedestal. He's an idiot.

[Raev]

Don't worry G13, I like you too. I think all three of us will get there in the end. Most people do!

[cd288]

So you’re being infected by a live virus?

Is this the same for all the manufacturers?

There’s no virus in the vaccine at all

[cd288]

mRNA vaccines, i.e. those from Pfizer and Moderna, work by giving your body instructions (that's the RNA part) to make COVID spike proteins. The CDC has a nice picture here (https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/downloads/pfizer-biontech-vaccine-what-Clinicians-need-to-know.pdf) on page 5. The theory was that the immune system could learn to destroy COVID without actually injecting a so-called live virus. What the article in question is claiming is that it does not matter, the spike protein itself causes pulmonary trauma even if there is no actual virus inside it: that's the "proving that the spike protein alone was enough to cause disease." part. If spike proteins cause disease, and mRNA vaccines cause spike proteins, it automatically follows that mRNA vaccines cause disease. Naturally the scientists at the Salk institute don't draw the obvious conclusion because they want to keep their $billions in funding.

If you have any reason why this logic is incorrect, I'd love to hear it. Unlike most people, I actually change my mind and admit it when I am wrong.

Are you actually this clueless or are you just trolling on purpose? I’m assuming the latter but who knows. The vaccines make it more difficult for the spike protein to bind into your cells. They don’t make spike proteins flood your system. You’re a moron

[G13]

lol at all the keyboard "scientists" in this thread

[cd288]

Maybe watch the video first. The Dutch guy being interviewed is a Doctor of Veterinary Medicine who has specialist expertise in virology and vaccinology.

If he's wrong that's a good thing. If he's right, then things are going to be not so good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNyAovuUxro

Are you quoting a vet in an argument about human health lol

[cd288]

TBH I was rather in the dark about vaccines until I did my homework following the COVID lockdowns. I have to admit it took me a quite a while to accept that our entire medical profession was literally designed to kill people. Did you know that 250,000 (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/22/medical-errors-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-america.html) people die every year from medical errors? It's the third leading cause of death, and that's only what they admit to. It does, however, generate trillions in revenue per year, and hey, what's important?

Do you know how many people died per year from not being able to be treated or not having medicine capable of saving them? Millions. I’d say we’ve come very very far

[Jibartik]

gonna watch toxic skys to celebrate my toxic DNA

MraWouQg0Bo

[Pulgasari]

Remember, Fascism is the integration of companies with the state.

https://i.imgur.com/txfWpAj.gif

[usernamebob27]

Are you quoting a vet in an argument about human health lol

He has the degrees in vet and virology you need to work at the highest level biological research facilities. Like the one they had in Wuhan... where the virus mysteriously just "popped up" and was instantaneity the most infections virus known to man.

edit - the veteranary degree is needed because they test these viruses on animals. Using game of function research, you inject the virus into a lets say 1000 rats, you then extract the virus that works in the rats and you move up to weasels, inject that into 1000 weasels, you find the strains that work on that then you inject those into 1000 dogs, then cats, etc.
The types of animals used in these bio labs that would have researched covid19 are types of animals that actually can be infected with covid19. To stop a virus you need to know its origin and it makes a huge difference if the origin of the virus was in a lab over naturally occurring.

Not to mention whos to blame for all the deaths, future effects on our health, and the state of the worlds economy from being forced to lock down.

[Ennewi]

Sorry your Rolling Stone article didn't prove masks do anything

It wasn't meant to, but reading stoned might lead one to think otherwise.

Recognizing how interrelated global events and worldviews are shouldn't require switching over to a new strain or even a different substance altogether.

https://youtu.be/EHLRLfWPVIg

[Ennewi]

He didn't deliver anything in that thread either

You're too blinded by wanting to kiss his ass when he's a dumbass that doesn't deserve your adulation

The only thing I've seen from him (like all lefties) is criticism of the source, sprinkled with whining about right right bogeymen under the bed, disguised as an "argument"

Criticism is the root of their entire thought process. It's a tactic. Not intelligence.

He won't tell you where the vast majority of Covid infections have taken place (Hint: Not outside at the beach. Not in any public place where masks are "required)

Stop putting him on a pedestal. He's an idiot.

Convincing argument.

[Cecily]

TBH I was rather in the dark about vaccines until I did my homework following the COVID lockdowns. I have to admit it took me a quite a while to accept that our entire medical profession was literally designed to kill people. Did you know that 250,000 (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/22/medical-errors-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-america.html) people die every year from medical errors? It's the third leading cause of death, and that's only what they admit to. It does, however, generate trillions in revenue per year, and hey, what's important?
It's designed to keep you alive because you're not worth anything dead. It gets pretty hard to keep our fragile human bodies from self-destructing, and sometimes the interventions cause more harm than good. It's a very, very hard system to fine tune. Lot of variables. Lot of independently moving parts. Lot of people who handle the care of any given patient in the hospital. Communication mistakes, breaks in aseptic technique, and medications errors can result in patient deaths. Things go wrong. These very fine people come and terrorize hospitals to make sure they're following the latest patient safety regulations to try to stop that from happening:

https://www.jointcommission.org/

All the same, Covid-19 vaccines aren't really medical errors, are they?

[Botten]

I phrased my statement very carefully. The clinical trials for the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines did not measure the rate of deaths for the participants. Nor did they measure whether vaccinated people were contagious. They only measured the number of people who got a cold.

Pharm does measure the adverse effects and especially deaths during clinical trials on everything. In fact long after trials they record everything to help them better when they do go to trial for adverse effects.

If a vaccinated person gets a virus they they could share it with someone who is unvaccinated. And there are plenty of those that had Covid and got a different variant of the virus in months time. The mRNA vaccine after two shots does the best job in protecting against some of these variants.

Vaccination helps to prevent the virus it is up to you if your crazy enough not to get the vaccine.

[G13]

It wasn't meant to, but reading stoned might lead one to think otherwise.

Recognizing how interrelated global events and worldviews are shouldn't require switching over to a new strain or even a different substance altogether.

https://youtu.be/EHLRLfWPVIg

Nothing you've ever posted proves mask do anything

You're trying too hard

Since you necro'd an older thread (because you're butthurt) I'll play along


Where have the vast majority of Covid infections taken place

[usernamebob27]

I don't wear a bandana mask because I think its gonna keep others safe from getting sick, I wear one to pretend I'm a bandit on my way to stick up a train in the old west.

[Ennewi]

Nothing you've ever posted proves mask do anything

You're trying too hard

Since you necro'd an older thread


Where have the vast majority of Covid infections taken place

https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Necropost

[G13]

https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Necropost

Where have the vast majority of Covid infections taken place

[usernamebob27]

I'm so glad masks worked since we've been using them for a year straight and covid is gone now.

[Ennewi]

Where have the vast majority of Covid infections taken place

What's the name of your hometown?

[G13]

What's the name of your hometown?

Where have the vast majority of Covid infections taken place

[Evia]

Before we let you into the store to buy or sell, let me check your forehead.

https://i.imgur.com/NzzlbBo.png

Or show me your vaccine passport identification band.

https://i.imgur.com/nItKc2M.png

13:16 And the second beast required all people small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark— the name of the beast or the number of its name.

What’s the symbol for the medical association? I’ll give you a hint it involves a serpent. I mean you literally cannot make this shit up. God has a pretty great sense of humor.

[Ennewi]

Where have the vast majority of Covid infections taken place

https://www.google.com/ https://duckduckgo.com/

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/countries-where-coronavirus-has-spread/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worldometer

[imperiouskitten]

The vaccines produce immunity to spike proteins by making your body familiar to them. It does not cause a cascade of spike protein proliferation within your tissues

These are very basic principles of secondary immunity that you’ve grossly misinterpreted

[Jimjam]

There’s no virus in the vaccine at all

I’m glad you’ve clarified that ambiguity. If not a live virus nor a deactivated virus then what is the vaccine? Is this the same for all the brands?

[Jibartik]

What’s the symbol for the medical association? I’ll give you a hint it involves a serpent. I mean you literally cannot make this shit up. God has a pretty great sense of humor.

Yep lol always laugh at that.

[usernamebob27]

I’m glad you’ve clarified that ambiguity. If not a live virus nor a deactivated virus then what is the vaccine? Is this the same for all the brands?

In the video I posted they referred to the carrier of the spike proteins as being a synthetic or synthesized virus...so...

[G13]

https://www.google.com/ https://duckduckgo.com/

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/countries-where-coronavirus-has-spread/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worldometer

Where have the vast majority of Covid infections taken place

[Ennewi]

What’s the symbol for the medical association? I’ll give you a hint it involves a serpent. I mean you literally cannot make this shit up. God has a pretty great sense of humor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serpent_(symbolism)

Historically, serpents and snakes represent fertility or a creative life force. As snakes shed their skin through sloughing, they are symbols of rebirth, transformation, immortality, and healing.[10] The ouroboros is a symbol of eternity and continual renewal of life.

In some Abrahamic traditions, the serpent represents sexual desire.[11] According to some interpretations of the Midrash, the serpent represents sexual passion.[12] In Hinduism, Kundalini is a coiled serpent.[13]

...

Serpents are connected with venom and medicine. The snake's venom is associated with the chemicals of plants and fungi[14][15][16] that have the power to either heal or provide expanded consciousness (and even the elixir of life and immortality) through divine intoxication. Because of its herbal knowledge and entheogenic association, the snake was often considered one of the wisest animals, being (close to the) divine. Its divine aspect combined with its habitat in the earth between the roots of plants made it an animal with chthonic properties connected to the afterlife and immortality. The deified Greek physician Asclepius, as god of medicine and healing, carried a staff with one serpent wrapped around it, which has become the symbol of modern medicine. Moses also had a replica of a serpent on a pole, the Nehushtan, mentioned in Numbers 21:8.

[Ennewi]

Where have the vast majority of Covid infections taken place

What will be the vast majority of G13's posts from now on?

[usernamebob27]

Why not just answer his question?

[Horza]

Why not just answer his question?

Sometimes when your computer gets stuck in a loop you have to give it a good kick.

[Cecily]

What’s the symbol for the medical association? I’ll give you a hint it involves a serpent. I mean you literally cannot make this shit up. God has a pretty great sense of humor.

I mean, it's Greek so you mean "the gods," right? Do you prefer the traditional 1 snek Rod of Asclepius associated with shedding skin and healing or the 2 snek mistake made by the US Army Medical Corps associated with Hermes, god of merchants and thieves?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_of_Asclepius
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caduceus

[G13]

What will be the vast majority of G13's posts from now on?

I'm not asking for a link to a Noam Chomsky interview

I'm asking where the vast majority of Covid infections have taken place


You're beclowning yourself with your responses

[Ennewi]

Why not just answer his question?

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/countries-where-coronavirus-has-spread/

I did, but he's waiting for me to answer the question directly because gotcha journalism has bled into everyday conversations.

[Jibartik]

in a twist the mnra strands cure autism

[Ennewi]

I'm not asking for a link to a Noam Chomsky interview

I'm asking where the vast majority of Covid infections have taken place


You're beclowning yourself with your responses

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wise_fool

[usernamebob27]

I did, but he's waiting for me to answer the question directly because gotcha journalism has bled into everyday conversations.

I don't wanna click the link I'd rather just read it on the forum in text. I'm also curious on where this place is.

[Snortles Chortles]

so about the majority of infections question…?
curious to hear an answer from our arm chair news linkers

[Pulgasari]

so about the majority of infections question…?
curious to hear an answer from our arm chair news linkers

Earth

[Jibartik]

https://www.tiktok.com/@__vicepresidentofthebtc/video/6956308082494278917?lang=en&is_copy_url=0&is_from_webapp=v1&sender_device=pc&sender_web_id=6872118017591346693

[Ennewi]

I don't wanna click the link I'd rather just read it on the forum in text. I'm also curious on where this place is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:COVID-19_pandemic_data

https://i.imgur.com/ejLh6Zr.jpg

The numbers are more or less the same as the previous link, which places the US at number one. Both sites place China much lower at around 90,000 cases, however...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_mainland_China

Alleged undercounting of cases and deaths
On 1 April, two United States officials said that China had deliberately concealed its cases and deaths according to a report by United States Intelligence Community. The officials asked not to be identified because the report is secret, and declined to detail its contents.[370][371] The sources stated that the Chinese central government does not know the extent of the outbreak because lower-level officials reported falsified statistics to avoid losing their positions. The CIA is currently investigating in China to assess the coronavirus totals.[372]

During the pandemic, no reports of cases of the coronavirus in Xinjiang prisons or of conditions in the Xinjiang re-education camps emerged.[215] Anna Hayes of Australia's James Cook University expressed concern about possible spread in the camps.[373]

As of late March, users of the social-media site Sina Weibo widely shared an undated photograph showing long lines at the Hankou funeral home in Wuhan.[374] According to Caixin Global, the Hankou funeral home was operating 19 hours a day.[375] Caixin also reported that there were a number of people who died with COVID-19 symptoms but were not tested and were thus excluded from the official case-tally. Some patients died of other diseases due to a lack of proper treatment when hospitals were overwhelmed dealing with those who had the coronavirus.[376] Some social-media users have used the numbers of urns returned to families and the number of cremations conducted in Wuhan to estimate a death toll in Wuhan of about 42,000 or 46,800, compared to an official toll of 2,548 people attributed to the virus in Wuhan as of 27 March.[375] There were 13,856 cremations in Wuhan in the fourth quarter of 2019, according to Bloomberg calculations based on data from the city's civil-affairs agency. That was 2,419 lower than in the fourth quarter of 2018.[376]

Health experts, United States intelligence officials, British scientists, and British government officials have expressed doubts about the accuracy of the figures provided by the Chinese government relating to the epidemic, raising concerns that the Beijing government has deliberately under-reported the extent of infections and deaths.[377][42][43][44] Chinese Premier Li Keqiang reported on 24 March 2020 that the spread of domestically transmitted epidemic has essentially stopped and the outbreak has been controlled in China.[378][weasel words][379][380][381]

Asymptomatic cases (people who tested positive but did not develop symptoms) were not counted as confirmed cases before 1 March.[382][383]

On 17 April 2020 the Wuhan government revised the number of COVID-19 deaths, accounting for deaths that occurred at home that went previously unreported, as well as for the subtraction of deaths that were previously double-counted[384] by different hospitals, resulting in a net increase of 1,290 reported deaths in the city.[4]

Blood samples taken by the Chinese CDC from a random sampling of 34,000 Wuhan citizens one month after the virus first wave was contained showed 4.43% of people had antibodies which would equate to almost 500,000 infections. In the wider Hubei area 0.44% of those sampled were positive for antibodies, while of 12,000 nationally representative samples taken only two recorded positive results.[385]

[Evia]

I mean, it's Greek so you mean "the gods," right? Do you prefer the traditional 1 snek Rod of Asclepius associated with shedding skin and healing or the 2 snek mistake made by the US Army Medical Corps associated with Hermes, god of merchants and thieves?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_of_Asclepius
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caduceus

Right. Very aware of the story being told.

Doesn’t change the irony that it’s literally a snake and a staff.

[Pulgasari]

Right. Very aware of the story being told.

Doesn’t change the irony that it’s literally a snake and a staff.

Moses threw his staff; it turned into a serpent and quelled their magic

[Cecily]

Guess you're free to focus on what symbolism you wanna deem important. Literally talking about two different types of religions and not sure that translates. I personally love the irony of the Caduceus being prevalent in the US.

[Ennewi]

lol at all the keyboard "scientists" in this thread

so about the majority of infections question…?
curious to hear an answer from our arm chair news linkers

Like keyboard, armchair is one word.

[imperiouskitten]

i like the symbol for its adjacency to femboys

hermes snakes and sticks

[Cecily]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiresias

[usernamebob27]

@Ennewi
It's a bad choice to reference any stats coming from China.

The CCP alters those stats.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFftsn6izic

They distort the information on lifting their people out of poverty. They just lower the standards of what "poverty" means
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxaK4gNmvto

yeah...they're trying to deflect everything on covid19 originating in Wuhan, saying it came from Italian ice cream imports and USA first if you remember that so that in the future they aren't held accountable for unleashing it upon the world and... destroying the global economy and ya know...dead people and lasting health effects on the living...

[NegaStoat]

I would fully recommend allowing India to be the testing grounds for any new medicine being pushed on the USA. So far, it's not looking good folks.

https://www.medindia.net/news/effects-of-covid-19-vaccine-and-male-fertility-198960-1.htm

Blows my mind how many people are rushing out to get the stupid thing for a threat with a 99.985 % recovery rate using a 'vaccine' that won't have its clinical testing finish until 2024. Flippin' unreal.

[Horza]

its a bad choice to reference any stats coming from China.

The CCP alters those stats.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFftsn6izic

They distort the information on lifting their people out of poverty. They just lower the standards of what "poverty" means
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxaK4gNmvto

Why does every right-wing Youtuber sound like a lizard trying to pass for human?

[usernamebob27]

@Horza maybe you should check out salty cracker on youtube( currently moved all his stuff to odysee). It might give you an aneurism though be careful

Also, that China Uncensored guy is what John Stewart was when John Stewart was funny.

[NegaStoat]

Why does every right-wing Youtuber sound like a lizard trying to pass for human?

My condolences for living in India.

[usernamebob27]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxUQjI_iVaw
not on the topic but maybe we need a laugh break

[G13]

I did, but he's waiting for me to answer the question directly because gotcha journalism has bled into everyday conversations.

What's gotcha about acknowledging Reality?

Where have the vast majority of infections occured?

I thought you believed in Science

[G13]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:COVID-19_pandemic_data

https://i.imgur.com/ejLh6Zr.jpg

The numbers are more or less the same as the previous link, which places the US at number one. Both sites place China much lower at around 90,000 cases, however...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_mainland_China

Wrong

Where specifically do the infections occur

I didn't ask for a world count

WHERE

[Horza]

The gotcha part is demanding evidence and then immediately disregarding any sources which aren't owned by the Murdoch family.

[G13]

The gotcha part is demanding evidence and then immediately disregarding any sources which aren't owned by the Murdoch family.

Since Ennewi is retarded maybe you know

Where do the vast majority of infections occur?

McDonald's, The Local Library, Starbucks, The Office?


Take a guess

[usernamebob27]

someone needs to insert the popcorn gif here... the one with the white motorcycle helmet guy in the theater

[Bardp1999]

Good luck with your vaccination, I'm sure you'll be fine. The government or big pharma would never lie to us.

https://i.imgur.com/Jdegljj.gif

[starkind]

When Medcorp can just foot the bill to the state or government it removes any incentive for them to keep u alive and able bodied.

[starkind]

Americans are too stupid 2 drop the hammer and regulate the fuck out of medicine and bad behavior that results in disease as well. It's not our way.

[usernamebob27]

The truth on pharma is to spicy to even post here.

[usernamebob27]

But rest assured Covid19 (and its future variants and mutations) will never be wiped out. It's to late, everyone will just have to learn to live with it.

The only thing we can all do is demand the investigation of where it originated from.

CCP needs to deflect the origin virus came from them or they risk their future dominance of the world.

Spicy note here = China has/had a huge population of older population that couldn't be used for soldiers or workers. So ya know...someone maybe will put up some biblical reference for shearing the old crop down to make way for the new?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg7FwHteB0I

[Horza]

Do your own research aka watch conspiracy videos on Youtube.

[starkind]

Blood pressure medication. They'll happily proscribe it and people will happily eat more crap. The side effects suck so they proscribe more for those and then they proscribe more blood pressure meds cuz you're getting sicker.

I think ppl do need the blood pressure meds but they need to not be the only thing.. oh and in America it costs 30 cents to make a generic effective safe med from two decades ago.. but let's sell u this brand new formulation for $100 a pill that fucks ur liver instead of giving it sublingual or as an injection... oh and people are too stupid to do basic first aid, put in their own IV or give themselves a shot. Oh and nurses are just robots following computer checkboxes now and can't speak English or be trusted to aspirate the vaccine needle and check that they aren't directly injecting the spikes into a vein even tho ppl who are perfectly healthy died from cots.

People are dumb as fuck. Even especially doctors of medicine and it sucks we have to rely so heavily on ppl but don't have a system of discipline and training that produces really well trained samurai.

We suck.

God and Brad Bless if u need the vax for whatever reasons. (There are some)

[starkind]

Do your own research aka watch conspiracy videos on Youtube.

Also not smart to just politiscize. And get allllll ur R-search from Disney and CNN aka goooogle.

[usernamebob27]

Do your own research aka watch conspiracy videos on Youtube.

referencing real news articles published by CCP...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg7FwHteB0I

[usernamebob27]

The real cure for Covid19 would have been if all the countries of the world quarantined China in 2019 letting no one and nothing in or out of that country...little late on that though.

We wouldn't be having these conversations if that had happened.

[Horza]

referencing real news articles published by CCP...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg7FwHteB0I

How much funding does this guy get from Shen Yun?

[feniin]

Can't wait for all of these idiot anti-vaxxers to exit the gene pool. Big ol' yikes.

[usernamebob27]

@Horza
Maybe 50 cents us

[usernamebob27]

Can't wait for all of these idiot anti-vaxxers to exit the gene pool. Big ol' yikes.

Why would they get exited from the gene pool? They got sick with the full Covid19 virus genome as opposed to the vaccinated which only get the spike proteins detection antibodies.

If anything the vaccinated will exit the gene pool because they've been given a false narrative that it will save them.
BTW if that happens, condolences. It's terrible either way.

[Horza]

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[usernamebob27]

I don't watch commie propaganda.
I definitely wouldn't click on any link you provide due to possible AIDS and or super AIDS infection.

[FatherSioux]

Big Pharma is for sure dirty, but they are also producers of amazing drugs.

Now people feel justified in throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Big Pharma created this.

[Horza]

I don't watch commie propaganda

It's from the conspiracy channel you keep linking, dummy.

[usernamebob27]

Still not clicking your links. My family needs me to not get AIDS and or Super AIDS from clicking links from commies.

[Pulgasari]

Do your own research aka watch conspiracy videos on Youtube.

[usernamebob27]

But that Falun Gong video was about CCP genocide and forced harvesting of organs from religious minorities that live in China...so that's something people should check out.

Spoiler alert!
They ran out of Falun Gongs and are leaning heavy on the Wiegers now.

[Horza]

Tell us more about the healing properties of traditional Chinese dance :o

[Ennewi]

Keyboard and mouse have replaced the mallet, and trolls have replaced the moles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whac-A-Mole (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whac-A-Mole#:~:text=air%20cylinder%20system.-,Colloquial%20usage,yields%20another%20popping%20u p%20elsewhere.)
Colloquial usage
The term "Whac-a-mole" (or "Whack-a-mole") is used colloquially to depict a situation characterized by a series of repetitious and futile tasks, where the successful completion of one just yields another popping up elsewhere.

In computer programming/debugging it refers to the prospect of fixing a bug causing a new one to appear as a result.[8] In an Internet context, it refers to the challenge of fending off recurring spammers, vandals, pop-up ads, malware, ransomware, and other distractions, annoyances, and harm.[9][10]

In law enforcement it refers to criminal activity popping up in another part of an area after increased enforcement in one district reduces it there.[11] In a military context it refers to ostensibly inferior opposing troops continuing to appear after previous waves have been eliminated.[citation needed]

It has also been applied to fake news, where as soon as one story is debunked another appears elsewhere – or sooner.[12]

[usernamebob27]

I don't want to be offensive to the people that like dancing but...
I don't like dancing.
I have nothing to say on dancing subjects, do what you want I guess. As long as you don't hurt people, its ok. I don't think I watched the dancing video, I'm just not interested in those things. What were the bullet points?

[Pulgasari]

I don't want to be offensive to the people that like dancing but...
I don't like dancing.
I have nothing to say on dancing subjects, do what you want I guess. As long as you don't hurt people, its ok. I don't think I watched the dancing video, I'm just not interested in those things. What were the bullet points?

You do like dancing, you're just afraid.

[Horza]

I don't want to be offensive to the people that like dancing but...
I don't like dancing.
I have nothing to say on dancing subjects, do what you want I guess. As long as you don't hurt people, its ok. I don't think I watched the dancing video, I'm just not interested in those things. What were the bullet points?

https://i.imgur.com/VbIytrf.jpg

[usernamebob27]

LULZ love it. Like button where are you
Was that the bullet points of the video?
Maybe there should be a CCP China thread here.... hmmmmm

lets get back to covid19 though

I'll make a China thread you can post on. About... dance...

[G13]

Keyboard and mouse have replaced the mallet, and trolls have replaced the moles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whac-A-Mole (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whac-A-Mole#:~:text=air%20cylinder%20system.-,Colloquial%20usage,yields%20another%20popping%20u p%20elsewhere.)

You're worse than Byue

Maybe you're one of the dancers in the China video

[Ennewi]

You're worse than Byue

Maybe you're one of the dancers in the China video

https://youtu.be/j7abOOIR2Vc

[G13]

https://youtu.be/j7abOOIR2Vc

Yep

You owned yourself with that one

[hobart]

Covid Spike Proteins (mRNA Vaccines) cause Vascular Damage

No they don't, Qtard.

[Swish]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:COVID-19_pandemic_data

https://i.imgur.com/ejLh6Zr.jpg

The numbers are more or less the same as the previous link, which places the US at number one. Both sites place China much lower at around 90,000 cases, however...

Got to be some fake reporting or my 5G senses are tingling. How does a country with 1.5 billion people have 90,000 cases? India and China should be around the same %

[Gwaihir]

Blood pressure medication. They'll happily proscribe it and people will happily eat more crap. The side effects suck so they proscribe more for those and then they proscribe more blood pressure meds cuz you're getting sicker.

I think ppl do need the blood pressure meds but they need to not be the only thing.. oh and in America it costs 30 cents to make a generic effective safe med from two decades ago.. but let's sell u this brand new formulation for $100 a pill that fucks ur liver instead of giving it sublingual or as an injection... oh and people are too stupid to do basic first aid, put in their own IV or give themselves a shot. Oh and nurses are just robots following computer checkboxes now and can't speak English or be trusted to aspirate the vaccine needle and check that they aren't directly injecting the spikes into a vein even tho ppl who are perfectly healthy died from cots.

People are dumb as fuck. Even especially doctors of medicine and it sucks we have to rely so heavily on ppl but don't have a system of discipline and training that produces really well trained samurai.

We suck.

God and Brad Bless if u need the vax for whatever reasons. (There are some)

I went to school with a lot of pre-meds. Most of them were stupid as fuck, and it was fairly obvious when they would weasel their way into our study group by the quality of their questions, complete lack of ownership over the material, and inability to piece together deductions and inferences.

Their performance in labs were even worse. I saw a premed spill about 30mL of sulphuric acid on her shirt cuff and then try to shrug it off and hide what had happened. I had to tell her, no...seriously go to the fucking wash station now that shit is going to start burning like fucking crazy in about 15 seconds.

[Ennewi]

I didn't ask for a world count

WHERE
Where have the vast majority of Covid infections taken place

https://youtu.be/SDVWr93Z9Yc?t=34

https://www.dummies.com/careers/find-a-job/interviews/ten-tips-for-asking-good-questions/

Know your purpose. Every question you ask should help you gather either facts or an opinion. Know which kind of information you need and frame your questions accordingly.
Follow general questions with specific ones. Build a hierarchy of questions that begins with the big picture and gradually drills down into specifics with follow-up questions.
Ask only essential questions. If you don’t really care about the information that’s likely to come, don’t ask the question. Respect the other person’s time and attention to avoid appearing resistant to closing the deal.

According to the data, the majority of infections have taken place in the countries that were listed; however, as mentioned, there is some question surrounding the totals for other countries farther down the list.

Wrong

Where specifically do the infections occur

Specifically?

"In the case of COVID-19, the virus primarily attacks the lungs. However, it can also cause your body to produce an overactive immune response which can lead to increased inflammation throughout the body."

Where do the vast majority of infections occur?

McDonald's, The Local Library, Starbucks, The Office?


Take a guess

You could have saved yourself the frustration simply by wording the question better, Goldilocks13.

Yep

You owned yourself with that one

You're beclowning yourself with your responses

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wise_fool

Is it Groundhog Day again?

[GinnasP99]

How does a country with 1.5 billion people have 90,000 cases? India and China should be around the same %

Because covid 19 is not real.
Hope that helps.

[Toxigen]

Can't wait for all of these idiot anti-vaxxers to exit the gene pool. Big ol' yikes.

Its not anti-vaxx in the traditional sense.

Its anti-this-particular-largely-untested-"vaxx" for something most people don't need to worry about at all.

As a healthy 34 year old...I'll never be getting this vaccine...just like I never get the flu shot.

Exercise, eat clean, take care of yourself...no need to worry about covid.

[HalflingSpergand]

In India when u have to go to the bathroom you just shit anywhere

[HalflingSpergand]

Open Defecation (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_defecation)

That's what the internet says atleast

[Ennewi]

Got to be some fake reporting or my 5G senses are tingling. How does a country with 1.5 billion people have 90,000 cases? India and China should be around the same %

https://thehill.com/policy/international/490993-cia-attempting-to-uncover-more-accurate-china-coronavirus-numbers-report

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.28.20116012v2.full

Cremation based estimates suggest significant under- and delayed reporting of COVID-19 epidemic data in Wuhan and China
Mai He, Li Li, Louis P. Dehner, Lucia F. Dunn
This article is a preprint and has not been peer-reviewed [what does this mean?]. It reports new medical research that has yet to be evaluated and so should not be used to guide clinical practice.

Detailed information on crematory facility and operation is listed in Appendix 1, but also summarized in Table 1.6,7 Briefly, there are eight crematories in Wuhan, which under normal circumstances would operate about 4 hours per day. Before the outbreak, cremation mainly happened in the morning, according to Chinese rituals. Starting on or before January 25, 2020, these were observed to be operating at or close to around-the-clock or 24 hours daily.6–12 This would put the current operating rate at about six times normal. Normal deaths per day can be estimated as 136 based on an annual mortality rate of 0.00551 in a population of approximately 9 million (Wuhan government data).13 With the regular procedure, the additional 20 hours of daily operation imply additional deaths of 5 (20/4) x 136 = 680 per day above normal, if the services are utilized with full capacity. However, it was estimated that the maximal capacity of cremation could be up to 2,100 bodies per day (see appendix 1).

A potential weakness of this study is that there is no cremation information in medical literature. All cremation related information came from media reports. To reduce bias, we used media reports from both within China and outside China.6–12

Some researchers have inferred the percentage of undocumented infections, concluding that approximately 86% of all infections were apparently undocumented and that these were the source of infection for 79% of documented cases.30 Scissors, examining out-migrants, has also pointed out that China’s COVID-19 figures are arithmetically impossible.31 Tsang et. al. estimated that by Feb 20, 2020, there would have been 232,000 (95% CrI (161,000-359,000)) confirmed cases in China as opposed to only 55,508 reported cases.32 By using high-resolution domestic travel and infection data, Sanche S et al projected the infected population would be around 233,400 (95% CI 38,757–778,278) by the end of January.33 These studies raise similar concerns about the underreporting of Chinese COVID-19 cases.

Yes, a Dr. Scissors exists. No, his first name is not Edward or Hans. Also, from the wiki, AEI (American Enterprise Institute) received the bulk of its funding from Donors Trust, with Charles and David Koch being the largest contributors. Scissors also sites CGTN which is questionable. Bloomberg requires a subscription. And the National Bureau of Statistics of China website isn't exactly light reading material.

Chinese media raised concerns about infections and deaths beyond the official statistics; for example, when the director of a fever clinic complained that he could admit only five out of 80 potentially infected patients, which suggested a potential 16-fold difference between possible infected patients and confirmed diagnoses in Wuhan. 4 The report mentioned the limited nucleic acid-based testing, which was available only after the sequencing data was announced on January 11, 2020. This information also pointed to the limited and exhausted medical facility capacity in Wuhan in late January and early February 2020. In Table 5, we list representative medical facilities in Wuhan and additional support from rest of China. Note that Wuhan was reported to have approximately 95,000 beds by the end of 2018. 28 Wuhan designated 100,000 beds for COVID patients by February 20.29 This ratio of bed numbers to official confirmed cumulative diagnoses 47,741 as of February 25, 2020 presents a discrepancy which cannot be explained by other causes. Similarly, as of Mar 8, Wuhan had 178,900 health care professionals, and 16,900 ventilators provided to Wuhan, to care for the officially recognized 50,000 (cumulative) patients by that time, is also inexplicable, unless most of the infected were admitted to ICU around the same time.25

medRxiv (pronounced "med-archive") is an Internet site distributing unpublished eprints about health sciences.[1][2][3][4] It distributes complete but unpublished manuscripts in the areas of medicine, clinical research, and related health sciences without charge to the reader. Such manuscripts have yet to undergo peer review and the site notes that preliminary status and that the manuscripts should not be considered for clinical application, nor relied upon for news reporting as established information.[5] The site was founded in 2019 by John Inglis and Richard Sever of Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory (CSHL), Theodora Bloom and Claire Rawlinson of BMJ (the medical publisher), and Harlan Krumholz of Yale University. The server is owned and operated by CSHL.

medRxiv, and its sister site, bioRxiv, have been major sources for the dissemination of research on COVID-19.[6]

Since February, 2020 medRxiv indexed in PubMed.[7]

[Ennewi]

Because covid 19 is not real.
Hope that helps.

https://www.uchicagomedicine.org/forefront/coronavirus-disease-covid-19/first-human-coronavirus-isolated-at-uchicago-more-than-50-years-ago
The first description of a coronavirus as a human pathogen occurred more than half a century ago at The University of Chicago.

In the 1960s, likely before any of the forum trolls were born.

[Snortles Chortles]

designated shitposting thread

[G13]

https://youtu.be/SDVWr93Z9Yc?t=34

https://www.dummies.com/careers/find-a-job/interviews/ten-tips-for-asking-good-questions/



According to the data, the majority of infections have taken place in the countries that were listed; however, as mentioned, there is some question surrounding the totals for other countries farther down the list.



Specifically?

"In the case of COVID-19, the virus primarily attacks the lungs. However, it can also cause your body to produce an overactive immune response which can lead to increased inflammation throughout the body."



You could have saved yourself the frustration simply by wording the question better, Goldilocks13.







Is it Groundhog Day again?

It's official

You're retarded

[cd288]

Its not anti-vaxx in the traditional sense.

Its anti-this-particular-largely-untested-"vaxx" for something most people don't need to worry about at all.

As a healthy 34 year old...I'll never be getting this vaccine...just like I never get the flu shot.

Exercise, eat clean, take care of yourself...no need to worry about covid.

The problem is there are healthy people in their 30s who die from it and we still can’t really pinpoint why exactly. I know people who fall into this category; totally healthy, completely in shape, no pre-existing conditions, and they contracted Covid and died. I also know totally healthy people who didn’t die but had extremely severe symptoms (needed to be intubated and in some cases now have lasting health issues as a result).

That’s why I got the vaccine; because we don’t really know yet why some healthy people get it so severely. If we could pinpoint that exactly (I.e. here’s the specific reason why some healthy people die from it and if that’s not you then you’re good) then maybe I wouldn’t have gotten it, but right now there’s literally no real way to know for sure that you aren’t one of those healthy young people who will somehow have a severe reaction to covid and possibly die. Although even if we did know I might still get it because there’s no real reason not to...the technology isn’t new, it’s actually been around for over 10 years and has been studied and tested extensively, we’ve just never had a need to actually deploy it since we already had vaccines for everything we needed them for...plus I’d rather not be slowly drowning from fluid filling my lungs and thinking about how if I just got the vaccine I wouldn’t be in this situation.

[starkind]

There are a lot of relevant beliefs and opinions about vaccines, can we just accept that we share this earth and the best way to keep people healthy, isn't mandatorily injecting them with wierd shit, and instead ensuring everyone leads balanced, sustainable, well disciplined lives that contrinbute to the collective spirit of humanity instead of simply dominating and controlling and exploiting their environment.

[Pulgasari]

I really hate that the Trump administration developed a vaccine that is so harmful to its recipients.

[Jibartik]

They say that the outbreak in India is maybe a result of the big religious festival they had, I wonder what life would be like if trump got elected and he was like, 'everyone go out and party' and right now America was having that massive outbreak?

I bet my chaos loving appocoylse wishing self would be smiling like that dog in the burning comic.

Sad :( Well we may never know. Hopefully biden is a deep state mark of the beast unleashed agent.

[FatherSioux]

So no one said anything about the penis spike things? I assume that means you all use them.

[Jibartik]

My penis has grown a few inches since the vax and though it's concerning ill take it.

[Jibartik]

oh fuck yea this is gonna get so awesome.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/P9w7Xw9ttUVx/

the new thing I am hearing about is the anti vaxxers think that the vaccine is some how... contagious (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P5qbcRAXVk)!

And you're either A going to have to start waring a mask to avoid catching this new vaxrus (pattent pending word)

But that.. will be forcing you to wear a mask, and that is not freedom!

So it's the sick that should be rounded up and forced to quarantined, and the only way to do that is to round up the vaccinated!

Ohhhh momma! I hope this is how it shakes down! Will be MUCH excitement.

[Baler]

Why is the government teaming with corporations to promote and encourage people to get vaccinated?

You remember the last time they did that?
You can't, exactly.

[Horza]

Literally every year they team up with corporations to encourage people to get the flu shot. (https://www.cdc.gov/flu/resource-center/toolkit/index.htm)

[Baler]

Literally every year they team up with corporations to promote and encourage people to get the flu shot.

The flu shot never used MRNA but an A+ effort at trying to prove me wrong.

[Botten]

The flu shot never used MRNA but an A+ effort at trying to prove me wrong.

Using the vaccinia method you wouldn't even have the choice. Would be hilarious to see all the anti-Vaxxers flipping their lid if this method was modified and used again.

...separately mRNA is less intensive than taking a dead virus to build immunity.

And soon their will be a pill you can take or

hell, you can just die outside the ER yelling Muh Freedumb!

whatever...

[Horza]

The flu shot never used MRNA but an A+ effort at trying to prove me wrong.

Well I did prove you wrong, not that a conservative would ever admit it.

[starkind]

The best bioweapon is going to be a synthetic amoeba that survives transfering from cow to person. Or lives in fruit shipped in from overseas. They can say it was industrial espionage. Oofs.

[Raev]

So it's the sick that should be rounded up and forced to quarantined, and the only way to do that is to round up the vaccinated!

Michael Yeadon is claiming that everyone taking the TrumpVax will be dead within two years. I think that's a bit dubious, but hey, he was a Pfizer insider and he has a PhD, so I have to trust the science here :cool:

https://www.uchicagomedicine.org/forefront/coronavirus-disease-covid-19/first-human-coronavirus-isolated-at-uchicago-more-than-50-years-ago

I thought COVID was not the flu?

Pharm does measure the adverse effects and especially deaths during clinical trials on everything.

No COVID deaths among either the vaccinated or the control group were observed during Pfizer's clinical trial (https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2034577) (ctrl-f death if you are lazy). It should be obvious that if no one died, the trial did not prove that the vaccine reduces death rate.

[Horza]

“Seriously. I can see no sensible interpretation other than a serious attempt at mass depopulation,” said Yeadon just after the 36-minute mark. “This will provide the tools to do it and plausible deniability because they’ll create another story about some sort of biological threat and you’ll line up and get your top-up vaccines and, in a few months, or a year or so later you’ll die of some, you know, peculiar syndrome.”

Yeadon went on to tell viewers that “everything your government has told you about this virus, everything you need to do to stay safe, is a lie” and added that lockdown and other preventative measures were aimed at “totalitarian control.” (https://rumble.com/vg5koh-breaking-dr-michael-yeadon-full-interview-access-reality-truth.html)

This stuff peer reviewed? :p

[Botten]

No COVID deaths among either the vaccinated or the control group were observed during Pfizer's clinical trial (https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2034577) (ctrl-f death if you are lazy). It should be obvious that if no one died, the trial did not prove that the vaccine reduces death rate.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-pfizer-health-concerns/fact-check-clarifying-claims-around-pfizer-vaccine-deaths-and-side-effects-idUSKBN28K2R6

by the way your www.nejm.org fake news site is blocked for a reason.

[Raev]

The flu shot never used MRNA but an A+ effort at trying to prove me wrong.

As much as I feel dirty agreeing with Horza on anything, he did prove you wrong. The truth of the matter is the same people shuffle incestuously between the government bureau and the corporations they are supposed to be regulating. They all form one gigantic global government that acts as one supporting the interests of the 0.1% that control it (gatmanno will no doubt appear here). Hence BigTech (whicare all censoring any information that would prevent people from taking the TrumpVax.

[Raev]

This stuff peer reviewed? :p

Well, depending on who you consider Yeadon's peers to be, I'd say yes.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-pfizer-health-concerns/fact-check-clarifying-claims-around-pfizer-vaccine-deaths-and-side-effects-idUSKBN28K2R6

by the way your www.nejm.org fake news site is blocked for a reason.

You are calling the most prestigious medical journal in the US fake news. Google for 'pfizer covid vaccine trial' if you don't believe me.

"No deaths were considered by the investigators to be related to the vaccine or placebo. No Covid-19–associated deaths were observed."

[Baler]

As much as I feel dirty agreeing with Horza on anything, he did prove you wrong. The truth of the matter is the same people shuffle incestuously between the government bureau and the corporations they are supposed to be regulating. They all form one gigantic global government that acts as one supporting the interests of the 0.1% that control it (gatmanno will no doubt appear here). Hence BigTech (whicare all censoring any information that would prevent people from taking the TrumpVax.

gee man I guess im wrong. You all know better than I do.
Experimental rushed vaccines with technology never used before. Yeah I guess you're all right, the government has been teaming up with corporations every year to push vaccines.

Silly me.

remember in 2019 when uber teamed up with the government to offer free rides for flu shots?
yeah me neither.
Don't split hairs.

[Horza]

gee man I guess im wrong. You all know better than I do.
Experimental rushed vaccines with technology never used before. Yeah I guess you're all right, the government has been teaming up with corporations every year to push vaccines.

Silly me.

gottem

[Pulgasari]

Hugs and enjoyment :)

[Gwaihir]

No way. Pfizer is only a benevolent force for the world. I can't believe it...won't believe it. I mean...they stood in solidarity with BLM and everything!

[Jibartik]

Death by covid = raptured in god with jesus
death by vaccine = took the mark in hell with satan

you decide mortals.

[Kaveh]

As much as I feel dirty agreeing with Horza on anything, he did prove you wrong. The truth of the matter is the same people shuffle incestuously between the government bureau and the corporations they are supposed to be regulating. They all form one gigantic global government that acts as one supporting the interests of the 0.1% that control it (gatmanno will no doubt appear here). Hence BigTech (whicare all censoring any information that would prevent people from taking the TrumpVax.

Love it or leave it buddy, I’ll see you on the battlefield

[Pulgasari]

Death by covid = raptured in god with jesus
death by vaccine = took the mark in hell with satan

you decide mortals.

when everythings the mark of the beast nothing is

[Jibartik]

well if you wanted to know the truth no man will know what the mark is until it is too late so you can just sit back and relax and 5g.

[Horza]

No way. Pfizer is only a benevolent force for the world. I can't believe it...won't believe it. I mean...they stood in solidarity with BLM and everything!

Still upset galach banned you even after saying he's on your side, Teppler?

[starkind]

well if you wanted to know the truth no man will know what the mark is until it is too late so you can just sit back and relax and 5g.

The Stargate episode where Jack O'niell (with two L's) ages rapidly and the kid born has a little pyramid symbol on his arm. Everyone falls asleep to Pelops'es 5G statue signal. (https://stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Brief_Candle)

[hobart]

As much as I feel dirty agreeing with Horza on anything, he did prove you wrong. The truth of the matter is the same people shuffle incestuously between the government bureau and the corporations they are supposed to be regulating. They all form one gigantic global government that acts as one supporting the interests of the 0.1% that control it (gatmanno will no doubt appear here). Hence BigTech (whicare all censoring any information that would prevent people from taking the TrumpVax.

The alternative? An FDA with expertise in neither food nor drug?

I'm not going to see a doctor for my ruptured appendix, he's a career medical insider!

[feniin]

well if you wanted to know the truth no man will know what the mark is until it is too late so you can just sit back and relax and 5g.

Religious dogma is fake. Hope that helps.

[Jibartik]

cool belief you have there

[Byue]

so from reading this, you can tell a lot of people are severely misinformed and strangely, they all seem to coalesce as republicans.

very informative thread.

[Kaveh]

Better than being Canadian

[Horza]

so from reading this, you can tell a lot of people are severely misinformed and strangely, they all seem to coalesce as republicans.

very informative thread.

Just about every thread in Off Topic eventually degenerates into the same conversation after 15 or 20 pages.

[Jibartik]

thanks to the mnra "mutation" these spikes are made by your cells and spread through the air breathed by vaccinated people so please wear a mask i dont want to lose my reproductive organs just because you wanted to trade them to avoid the flu

[Baler]

thanks to the mnra "mutation" these spikes are made by your cells and spread through the air breathed by vaccinated people so please wear a mask i dont want to lose my reproductive organs just because you wanted to trade them to avoid the flu

But :( But :(

Someone who doesn't get vaccinated is a murderer who is going to die.
I did my part to save the world, I got vaccinated and have the proper documents to prove it for my air travel and concert venue.

:rolleyes: (thick sarcasm incase any smooth brains think I'm serious)

[G13]

Just about every thread in Off Topic eventually degenerates into the same conversation after 15 or 20 pages.

lol

[Byue]

No, more like these fucking republicans can't read a study, or take something of value from it since they can't read or understand it.

And it leads to this shit.


Alt-Right so desperate to recruit young impressionable men, no fucking forum left untouched.(I'm looking at Starkind who went full retard)

The literature is pretty abundant.
And the thing is, we help them by providing a counter argument.

There is nothing the right wing is not ready to desecrate.
Like the republicans are now a pro worker populist party and (lol).

how to radicalize a normie. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P55t6eryY3g&ab_channel=InnuendoStudios)


Right wingers just seem to be incapable of seeing the future.
Oh, there is no limit to accumulation? I cannot for the life of me, imagine a world where a few would control the entire money supply!



This is very sad.

I think at this point, either turn this into 8-chan and throw some lights on it so someone intervene or I don't really know but something needs to be done.
These forums are a source of massive misinformation, hatred, misogyny, racism. You guys are fucking awful.

[Gwaihir]

Gotta love these fucking retarded "Shedders".

Protip: the vaccines are actual viruses.

[Pulgasari]

No, more like these fucking republicans can't read a study, or take something of value from it since they can't read or understand it.

And it leads to this shit.


Alt-Right so desperate to recruit young impressionable men, no fucking forum left untouched.(I'm looking at Starkind who went full retard)

The literature is pretty abundant.
And the thing is, we help them by providing a counter argument.

There is nothing the right wing is not ready to desecrate.
Like the republicans are now a pro worker populist party and (lol).

how to radicalize a normie. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P55t6eryY3g&ab_channel=InnuendoStudios)


Right wingers just seem to be incapable of seeing the future.
Oh, there is no limit to accumulation? I cannot for the life of me, imagine a world where a few would control the entire money supply!



This is very sad.

I think at this point, either turn this into 8-chan and throw some lights on it so someone intervene or I don't really know but something needs to be done.
These forums are a source of massive misinformation, hatred, misogyny, racism. You guys are fucking awful.

This forum is nothing like 8-chan, get a grip.

We'd be better if you commie nerds stopped bull/china shopping in here.

[Byue]

Gotta love these fucking retarded "Shedders".

Protip: the vaccines are actual viruses.

Ignorance on display.

This forum is nothing like 8-chan, get a grip.

We'd be better if you commie nerds stopped bull/china shopping in here.

Yeah, it's better if only the nazis cunts, the racists cunts, the right wingers, the rednecks, the pedophiles, the fucking uneducated idiots and all the virgins could stay and bull/china shopping in here. (you mean bull in a China (as in ceramic) shop, right, bozo?) Case on fucking display, your monkey friends think mRNA vaccines are actual viruse.

Low level intelligence.
Easily conned.
Over armed and fucking annoying.
anti-choice for women and babies, pro-choice for vaccines.

wtf is going on.
Actually, 8-chan is more pleasant to read because you go to there and you know what will happen. Here is eerily similar and it<s for a 20 years old game.

[G13]

Ignorance on display.



Yeah, it's better if only the nazis cunts, the racists cunts, the right wingers, the rednecks, the pedophiles, the fucking uneducated idiots and all the virgins could stay and bull/china shopping in here. (you mean bull in a China (as in ceramic) shop, right, bozo?) Case on fucking display, your monkey friends think mRNA vaccines are actual viruse.

Low level intelligence.
Easily conned.
Over armed and fucking annoying.
anti-choice for women and babies, pro-choice for vaccines.

wtf is going on.
Actually, 8-chan is more pleasant to read because you go to there and you know what will happen. Here is eerily similar and it<s for a 20 years old game.

lol

[Gwaihir]

Imagine name-calling as a sock puppet for megacorps and big pharma. "We stand in solidarity with the BLM-Antifa movement."

Anti-choice for babies is hilarious when you have no qualms killing babies in utero, and then blending them up into your vaccines. Are you aware of the ingredients in your vaccines? There is a kharmic debt when one knowingly accepts being injected with aborted fetus cells, bro. It makes you implicit in the act that led to their availability for the vaccines.

I bet you didn't even realize there are aborted fetus cells in your miracle cure, did you? "Ignorance on full display", indeed

[Byue]

I didn't say you had to leave, I said cut the crap. :cool:

Wait, so I cannot be a low level annoying lefties but you allow those folks to stay here saying all those lies and all those obvious lies and all those terrible lies and all this misinformation?

So, the problem is not that the USA nuked Japan.
The problem is I mention it.

And it hurts you.

But if we hurt a group you don't identify with, it's fine.
I know I am slow to understand conservatives politics.

[Byue]

how me a conservative :confused:

Did I call YOU a conservative?
Wear the hat if it fits you buddy.

Weird how you'd say it was better if the commies -I am a commie now?- should begone.
But who else, should be gone?

Just me, the commie?

how me, a commie :confused:

[Baler]

I bet you didn't even realize there are aborted fetus cells in your miracle cure, did you? "Ignorance on full display", indeed

Ignorance is bliss. What they don't know can't hurt them, right?

[Byue]

Bro, you've use anything at your disposal to win a war, including splitting the atom and nuking Japan but some cells -sorry that you like technology so much but don't understand where we are with it- that saved millions of lives is a no go for you?


Tell me again how ethics work, for a conservative?
Nuking a civilian city, good.
after all, evacuating 600,000 people in less than 24H sounds reasonable if they didn't their own fault die bitches.

Using cells to save lives: OH NO WE CANNOT HAVE THAT!

Do I understand conservative logics?

[Gravydoo II]

Imagine name-calling as a sock puppet for megacorps and big pharma. "We stand in solidarity with the BLM-Antifa movement."

Anti-choice for babies is hilarious when you have no qualms killing babies in utero, and then blending them up into your vaccines. Are you aware of the ingredients in your vaccines? There is a kharmic debt when one knowingly accepts being injected with aborted fetus cells, bro. It makes you implicit in the act that led to their availability for the vaccines.

I bet you didn't even realize there are aborted fetus cells in your miracle cure, did you? "Ignorance on full display", indeed

Why dont you give a kid a father? Adopt. Not worth your time? You said you cared though.. Put your money where your mouth is. You said he has no qualms about killing babies, but you do nothing while they suffer in state care. Wow what a fucking hero. Such a great man. We should all take notes from this saint of humanity. Cries about vaccines, does nothing while kids are abused by the state.

[Horza]

Imagine name-calling as a sock puppet for megacorps and big pharma. "We stand in solidarity with the BLM-Antifa movement."

Anti-choice for babies is hilarious when you have no qualms killing babies in utero, and then blending them up into your vaccines. Are you aware of the ingredients in your vaccines? There is a kharmic debt when one knowingly accepts being injected with aborted fetus cells, bro. It makes you implicit in the act that led to their availability for the vaccines.

I bet you didn't even realize there are aborted fetus cells in your miracle cure, did you? "Ignorance on full display", indeed

That's a lot of buzzwords and lies, Teppler.

[cd288]

Ignorance is bliss. What they don't know can't hurt them, right?

None of the covid vaccines contain this you moron lol

[Gwaihir]

I didn't make an atomic bomb dipshit. Just like I'm not knowingly injecting baby fetuses into my body.

Your concept of culpability and false equivelence is beyond retarded. That is some seriously impressive mental gymnastics.

Your entire scope is crazy. You're talking to "a" person as if he is an amalgamation of every sordid deed throughout history before they were even born. Do you realize how entirely misplaced your thinking is? Is this what you call a "sane" view?