How noticeable is Human night-blindness

[OuterChimp]

If I turn up the gamma, can I still see?

[Jimjam]

Suck it and see (or not, if it is night time).

[Frug]

It's vastly over-dark compared to classic, and the other races advantages not nearly as "better".

But give it a shot; it doesn't bother everyone. Gamma does help, IMO.

[mcoy]

https://wiki.project1999.com/Glowing_Stone_Band is a cheap solution. I use 'em on my human toons during the night.

-Mcoy

[ride the spiral]

Adjusting the gamma doesn't do anything (at least on my computer). I believe it has been disabled server side?

Human night blindness is brutal. I regret having made my bard a human. As a test you should make a human in FP, run to EC and ask a Mage for a coldstone, wait until midnight and equip and unequip the necklace. The difference is STARK. Infravision makes night time playable, Ultravision trivializes it. Night blindness nearly makes the game unplayable. Good luck with your CR at night time.

[Burrito]

Adjusting the gamma doesn't do anything (at least on my computer). I believe it has been disabled server side?

Human night blindness is brutal. I regret having made my bard a human. As a test you should make a human in FP, run to EC and ask a Mage for a coldstone, wait until midnight and equip and unequip the necklace. The difference is STARK. Infravision makes night time playable, Ultravision trivializes it. Night blindness nearly makes the game unplayable. Good luck with your CR at night time.

Playing an erudite I can tell you that wandering around at night is pretty damn fun for me. I also have a ton of playtime, so navigating using the sky and zone walls is doable for me.

Running from Western commonlands to eastern karanas I can tell you that I had to STOP because I was unable to discern where the large drop was without a light source.

You will be seeking light sources, sources of infravision/ultravision.

If this doesn't appeal to you as a gameplay element, avoid it. It is very noticeable.

[ride the spiral]

If I wasn't such a pepega I would just have done screenshots, but I was just doing a quick personal assessment one night and took some pics with my phone. Obviously there is screen glare, etc. But, this may be helpful to see the difference.

https://imgur.com/a/3WQvpwy

[mcoy]

Here's an album I put together a while back showing a human monk on green with nothing, a greater light stone, and a glowing stone band:

https://imgur.com/a/tYBNrab

It's much better with infravision, but ultravision is far better than infra and basically makes night nonexistent.

Edit - Ride the Spiral beat me to it but you can clearly see how beneficial ultravision is.

-Mcoy

[magnetaress]

It's not to bad if you can get a hold of a cold stone.

[Burrito]

https://i.imgur.com/dSksXI8.png

Erudite night blind-ness navigating to a zone line with no light source.

[Cpotts67]

Adjusting the gamma helps my barbarian see well enough to navigate at night while on a CR. It's been a while since I've had to use it, but handy in a pinch. Otherwise I rely on items that provide infravision.

[Tunabros]

Imagine you are in the bathroom at the middle of the night and everything is dark

except the bathroom

you close the light look around

thats what human night vision is like

[Gustoo]

It is insanely dark, and terrible at night to be a human, erudite, or barbarian.

It is much more classic.

The biggest negative is that every other playable race has to suffer having really messed up dynamic lighting enabled in order to replicate the (almost) correct level of human night-blindness.

On live these blindies were unpopular (except barbarians) because of this. Barbarians were pretty popular because they are the alpha race.

[GRMurphy]

The biggest negative is that every other playable race has to suffer having really messed up dynamic lighting enabled in order to replicate the (almost) correct level of human night-blindness.

Yeah, I'd like to say that infravision helps (and it does, very slightly), but because of the changes necessary for night blindness, basically anyone without ultravision has it rough.

[jadier]

On my Human Monk, I died in Unrest one night. I ran back from GFay and got to the tunnel to Unrest. It was 100% black. I literally could not find the turns. I ended up using /loc and taking tiny steps to find my way to the zoneline (light INSIDE unrest works differently and was fine).

Moral of the story: If Human/Erudite/Barb, have a bag of torches or lightstones or whatever in your bank so you can grab one after death and have a shot at finding your corpse.

[Gustoo]

Jadier that experience is correct and classic, you really didn't want to travel as a human without a light source.

GRMurphy I am more referring to the bloomed out ugly light sources making the game look and run poorly.

Make a human and a half elf ranger who both start at surefall glade. Play both there at in game night time. You can see that the elf can see JUST FINE compared to the human who is in a tunnel of dark. It isn't quite classic but its good that their life sucks. ( as intended )

[GRMurphy]

To be fair, I keep my gamma really low (like, 21%), so I don't notice the blown out lighting. Whenever I watch youtube vids, people's games look really washed out

[Xer0]

To be fair, I keep my gamma really low (like, 21%), so I don't notice the blown out lighting. Whenever I watch youtube vids, people's games look really washed out

gamme adjustment from in-game settings makes 0 difference one way or the other lol

[Samoht]

I found my gamma settings in game were being overwritten by f.lux

My issues went away when I closed f.lux

If you are having issues with gamma not changing or snapping back, you might have another program affecting it.

[Vizax_Xaziv]

https://wiki.project1999.com/Glowing_Stone_Band is a cheap solution. I use 'em on my human toons during the night.

-Mcoy

Same here. Cost about 150p avg right now so likely not attainable to someone brand new..

[Vizax_Xaziv]

It is insanely dark, and terrible at night to be a human, erudite, or barbarian.

It is much more classic.

The biggest negative is that every other playable race has to suffer having really messed up dynamic lighting enabled in order to replicate the (almost) correct level of human night-blindness.

On live these blindies were unpopular (except barbarians) because of this. Barbarians were pretty popular because they are the alpha race.


And Barbs are conversely unpopular on P99. Other than Shaman I don't see many Barbs Warriors or Rogues when they're quite good in both roles.

[GRMurphy]

gamme adjustment from in-game settings makes 0 difference one way or the other lol


Look, all I know is that when I turn the in game gamma down things get darker, and when I turn it up they get brighter and easier to see and uglier. Doesn't work on my desktop, but on my laptop that's how it operates

[Mithril]

It's not too bad when you have your items, it's the naked CRs that are a serious problem. You can summon a halo, but anything beyond that, you simply cannot see.

[Benanov]

It's not too bad when you have your items, it's the naked CRs that are a serious problem. You can summon a halo, but anything beyond that, you simply cannot see.

The following classes don't have that problem...eventually:

Mage (Heatstone/Coldstone)
Wizard
Shaman
Enchanter
Necromancer
Druid (wolf form has infravision)
Ranger

As for the rest of them, you get used to it.

There's a reason why Benanov wears his Tranix Crown a lot. The Fright Forged Helm is really really nice for Clerics who can't get T-Crowns.

[Vizax_Xaziv]

The following classes don't have that problem...eventually:

Mage (Heatstone/Coldstone)
Wizard
Shaman
Enchanter
Necromancer
Druid (wolf form has infravision)
Ranger

As for the rest of them, you get used to it.

There's a reason why Benanov wears his Tranix Crown a lot. The Fright Forged Helm is really really nice for Clerics who can't get T-Crowns.

SK as well (Deadeye @ lvl 22)