The Hole is the new HHK

[silo32]

Change my mind.

Last night Karnors had 6 people.... Six?!

Seb had 18...

Everyone else 52+ were in the hole.

Pre hole it was pretty spread.

Also noticed overall the community is less friendly, more abrasive and ignore others. Took 40 min to even find a sow in ec tunnel on an alt. Kindly asked sow casting players with a "please" and most logged. Ignored or went their way. Just an observation.

Green will be dead in July..

[Mesocyclone]

Mobs gating 90% of the time is not classic. You pull a caller from KC moat, it gets low HP, and gates back to LCY? WTF

[Zipity]

People are grinding to 60 and yes the hole is the place to be! People are overall
Very friendly in the hole where there are a 1000 mobs vs highkeep where there is 6.

[Mesocyclone]

Just make all the Kunark dungeon ZEMs the same. Need a ZEM patch for Kunark like we had in classic back in May.

[sajbert]

Server just feels crowded atm. Heck, I went back to OoT on friggin’ tuesday at 13.00 CET and Seafury island must have had more players than Seafury spawns.

The Hole unlike that place can support a heavy number of players tho’.

[drackgon]

Yeah the hole is nothing like HHK. HHK 2 bards + isa + 2 nobles +50% third noble. Capt and basement chick for those 48-53..7.5 mobs for the zone... vs hole that has 500+ mobs. Hole can have tons of groups in there and not step on others toes. Please stop post like these before they nerf the hole lol.

[Power Flower]

invite more wizards to your groups, they solve the gating issue

[Owls]

Mobs gating 90% of the time is not classic. You pull a caller from KC moat, it gets low HP, and gates back to LCY? WTF

That's how I remember it, to be honest. I can't remember where they gated to, specifically, but I remember having to be ready with stuns on my wizard, or burn them down.

[strongNpretty]

Toss my vote in for no more zone modifiers..

[Vivitron]

I don't know whether they're chasing classic with the current ZEMs or intentionally trying to make more zones viable. If it's the latter I think they could consider reducing the disparity between the minimum and maximum ZEM and making occasional adjustments based on player behavior.

[silo32]

Yeah the hole is nothing like HHK. HHK 2 bards + isa + 2 nobles +50% third noble. Capt and basement chick for those 48-53..7.5 mobs for the zone... vs hole that has 500+ mobs. Hole can have tons of groups in there and not step on others toes. Please stop post like these before they nerf the hole lol.


I think you confused my point. Is that it is the only zone with a huge zem Wich makes all of Kunark not viable in to be lvl in for exp per hour.

Also to the other poster yes... Hole has plenty of mobs compared to HHK
But they nerfed HHK because it was like the hole is now. It has such a high zem. That besides loot from other zones it's the go to place to lvl 55+.

[Imposter]

when you leave, can I have your stuff?

[derpcake2]

there is zero reason the hole should be twice the xp of lguk

everyone knows this so all zones are pretty empty

this isn't classic, most of all

[Danth]

I imagine making the Hole the go-to pick up group zone may have lowered staff workload slightly. It's a huge wide-open zone where groups won't usually get in each other's way. There aren't many (any?) of the sort of high-value drops that so often cause arguments and generate petitions. There's not much reason for groups to try to train each other or otherwise screw with each other. The zone sort of takes care of itself.

Danth

[-TK-]

How many people are trying to cram into the Hole on Green? I regularly see 50-60 on blue during peak hours, and with those numbers you can usually run from the entrance to UT without seeing but a few mobs.

[Scalem]

How many people are trying to cram into the Hole on Green? I regularly see 50-60 on blue during peak hours, and with those numbers you can usually run from the entrance to UT without seeing but a few mobs.

It's about the same on green.

[Zipity]

Yea I bet highkeep got more petitions in a week than the hole has seen since opening.

[silo32]

Again i think everyone is missing the point. HHK was the highest zem zone to lvl in. Making all the other classic zones empty. Kunark was pretty evenly distributed. Now other than a few loot camps. The one zone to rule them all is the hole. Because of that HHK was nerfed into oblivion. Like sea fury loot. HHK zem change was un classic. The Hole zem dominates the game. One zone to rule them all one zone to bind them.

[Mesocyclone]

Is the Hole a place you can go for a pickup group if you have no key? Like, do people wait around LFG at the pond?

[Zipity]

Is the Hole a place you can go for a pickup group if you have no key? Like, do people wait around LFG at the pond?

1)Small races can squeeze through
2)Medium races can shadow step through or use a shrink pot
3)Large races can single shrink and shadow step or double shrink
4)Rogues can pick the lock
5)There is often someone around to help you in
6)You can get your own key (~150pp + heretic faction)
A) any class/race with sneak needs no faction work.
B) you can also do things like harmony/pacify + invis
C) you can kill Erudin guards to quickly get factioned
D) make an erudite mule and transfer it 150pp worth of sellable

[rjw513]

Don’t know about green but on blue you would want to be inside. Ideally at waterfall, but I’m sure some PUGs happen at entrance too. However, as another post stated, there’s many times you can move around from camp to camp quite easily...

As far as having a key..it’s pretty easy to ask for help or simply wait on someone going in/out on a bank/vendor run to Paineel. If you want to bring your own group, solo or play off-peak, probably best to get a key.

[magnetaress]

Mobs gating 90% of the time is not classic. You pull a caller from KC moat, it gets low HP, and gates back to LCY? WTF

Kc is easy to crawl. You shouldn't be pulling mobs from across the zone.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

1)Small races can squeeze through
2)Medium races can shadow step through or use a shrink pot
3)Large races can single shrink and shadow step or double shrink
4)Rogues can pick the lock
5)There is often someone around to help you in
6)You can get your own key (~150pp + heretic faction)
A) any class/race with sneak needs no faction work.
B) you can also do things like harmony/pacify + invis
C) you can kill Erudin guards to quickly get factioned
D) make an erudite mule and transfer it 150pp worth of sellable

Have a necro cast Ignite Bones on you and purchase key while you have skele illusion.

[cd288]

Can’t you just click the rock?

[silo32]

Can’t you just click the rock?

With the key or lock pick. yassss

[Jibartik]

My least fave thing about p99 is looking at 19 people lfg at the zone in of MM and the only group past GY is the CE

bruh the kitchen the Tunnels, the tower, the herbalist.

Those are 3 other full group, constant pull locations for CE level groups, and people like "nah can only go to the entrance"

Get in the damn hole and find the mobs, they're are TONS of spots for chain pulling in there while others chain pull the spots you know about.

[cd288]

With the key or lock pick. yassss

For some reason I thought you didn’t need a key or lock pick for the rock but it’s been awhile. I thought I just clicked it one time and it opened

[magnetaress]

My least fave thing about p99 is looking at 19 people lfg at the zone in of MM and the only group past GY is the CE

bruh the kitchen the Tunnels, the tower, the herbalist.

Those are 3 other full group, constant pull locations for CE level groups, and people like "nah can only go to the entrance"

Get in the damn hole and find the mobs, they're are TONS of spots for chain pulling in there while others chain pull the spots you know about.

those camps take real skill and invis cr thughhh dugdhe

best mm group i had was back in the pool area and pulling the back half of that lil area

a lot of the CE groups are overleveled for CE too and should be deeper in at the harder spots so those slightly harder mobs that may be the occasional yellow/red caster --- ppl can't handle them with their ragtag nature milling about looking for an enchanter to powerlvl them

---btw if u want to be a hero, be a ranger or druid, and pull MM, make ppl go at ur pace and if they can't sit tight kickt hem from grp

rangers can solo all of MM essentially given patience

MM is a lot funner on red, occasional wizard pvp too

[Jibartik]

haha they take no skill, its like, I think it's more of a social factor, like, nobody is used to it so they dont do it.

and CR in MM is even an issue for anyone on p99, like that pool area most people can get to self invis haha.

Its the 3rd spot on my list, the tunnels hah! its so much exp, and there is still more than enough for 3 more groups in that castle!!

I still go to the tower with people (that you can just hop and zone out of if there is a bad pull, and regroup, so its even safer than the CE) and people are like "theres a tower here!?!"

[DoodyLich666]

I do wish more groups were down to crawl through dungeons. That’s why my favorite groups are usually made up of fellow noobs, like myself, who want to explore everything. It’s worth a corpse run or two.

[magnetaress]

I solod all of MM on a druid once and on a cleric once at 50 so... ya i feelu it's not that hard.

but how many clerics on blue run around with cloudy pots in their inventory and on their hotkeys for quick access *hehehehe*

not many

IMO green/blue are fine examples of why red99 made me a better player --- but not red in it's current state, I mean old terrible vanilla red, were invisibility, and DA were a clerics lifeline to the zoneline for that sweet holy jebus plug

[Jibartik]

a group should always be in the kitchen.

https://i.imgur.com/lJPXtVW.jpg

[OuterChimp]

a group should always be in the kitchen.

https://i.imgur.com/lJPXtVW.jpg

/tell Wife You'd better be in the kitchen (where you belong) and make me a sammich!

[Toxigen]

dont forget bear pits

[Zatiken]

dont forget bear pits

When I went to bear pits a couple nights ago someone trained the ice giants onto our group and took over the camp. Seems to be some fierce competition for that spot.

[Bonethunder]

kill giants the34n nothing to train

[Bardp1999]

Wait the Hole is open now?

[Zipity]

Soon as your girl left you the hole has weathered hundreds of daring Solo adventurers aNd groups

[alldroit]

Soon as your girl left you the hole has weathered hundreds of daring Solo adventurers aNd groups

is this necessary?

[BurtMacklinFBI]

Agree that there is no action anywhere but the hole now. Just giving similar zem to kunark dungeons and increasing kunark outdoor zem would go a long way towards making the rest of the world have life.

[TripSin]

Just got to Kunark yesterday. Very sad to find out the ZEM sucks ;_;

[OuterChimp]

Wait the Hole is open now?

Yes, but you need to ease into it...

[Jimjam]

Wait the Hole is open now?

fancy a holesum?